/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>4470654
I don't like how inking looks too clean compared to the messy sketches. Most appealing inking is Corto Maltese's artstyle which retains the free form of a sketch. Should I keep return to inking and see where that takes me?

So I'll try to spend a few more hours and call it done.
The pose is less dynamic than all my trials but it does not feel to wrong to me.
Any comments/critiques?

>>4470725

You lack on all aspects of drawing and painting (anatomy, proportions, composition, gesture, light and color) pretty much the same, which is very good.
So keep on studying little by little on every aspect and keep implying that updated knowledge to your work and you will get somewhere.

Good luck man!

>>4470654
Who is the author of this piece? I like it a lot. In case you are the author and you are able to paint that in oils, my only question would be what the hell are you doing on this board.

>>4470725
What even is the point of the stylization thread if something like this can be posted in here?

>>4470767
Not him but the alt thread is full of shitposting. No serious post asking for critique get's more than two replies

Just finished this

>>4470654
still slogging thru drawing people and backgrounds for the first time

>>4470654
What d'ya think?

Update from previous thread, thought so far?

>>4470767
This more to your liking lad?

Graphic design is not really my thing, so If anybody could point if there's any obvious mistake I would be thankfull

I haven't drawn anything since I was a kid really, but corona got me sketching and I'm looking for some pointers. Feel like Im lacking in direction and style.
Gonna drop three things I drew this week. This isn't my usual board, so my bad if I'm being dumb somehow.

>>4471200
2/3

>>4471201
And 3/3

I kinda messed up the face a bit, but I can straighten that up once digital. What color should her dress be?
>>4471023
I like it.

epic thread

fucking kill me

Doors poster I finished today

>>4471142
I like your long hoof horsey.

>>4471062

I dig it, my man. Only thing that I really notice is that the comic dots blend in too much to really be stylistically useful. I might make them bolder or bigger or something. Even so, cool stuff.

Pls look

>>4471142
watch out that horse got a knife!

>>4471747
would rather have a white or simple background instead of that mess of a blur, it hurts the eyes

>>4470751
Ah thanks I guess.
Check the previous thread for the oil painting the guy posted some progress pics.

>>4471023
If the lighting is so bright that his left arm has such value, I think the part of the hood on the ground should be lighter, no? (And there's a lantern right above it too).
Maybe add some highlight on the arms as there would be lights emitting from the eyes.
Colors of left and right arms are not consistent but I'm not sure if that's your intention.
Anyway I like it, keep it up.

>>4470956
Nice head.
The torso is decent. His left chest muscle should be stretched a bit more than his right counter part.
Try moving your elbow backward with your left arm and touch your chest, you can feel your muscle stretching.
The muscles are a kind of all over the place, especially the cylinder biceps on his right arm.
The hip is broken though.

>>4470654
Hey, I'm using this artwork for a small competition and I'm really not sure if this is good or not, harsh criticism would be greatly appreciated (Made using ibs paint btw)

>>4471953
>>4471952
>>4471841
>>4471779
>>>/beg/

>>4471775
>>4471779
Very aborable anon. Do you have a blog?

>>4471966
I tried but they never say anything

>>4471968
Thanks man!! I did once but then the Tumblr Purge happened.

>>4471966
yeesh is my drawing that bad,,

>>4471953
The half-assed hatching is awful, spend time on it, do studies of wold woodblock prints for hatching technique. Also maybe bargue plates.

>>4471952
Attempted a lot fucked it all up.

Start with perspective, your eyeballing is awful, the head construction,and only once you've got those down go for color relationships.

>>4471841
Shit all around, not proficient in any fundamental.

Just start at square one, sticky.

I think Im finally donion rings with this one.

>>4472114
Awesome work, I think the blue sky is too saturated though, feel like it doesn't go well with the rest.

trying to pick a face for a character in a comic

>>4472872
im kinda /beg/, but the first thing that I notice is that all the mouths of your portraits are a little off, the mouth/lip area usually comes out of the face more, while in the last two face to the right, they look sunken into the face due to the placement and jaw structure.

>>4472729
I guess I went too far, it was originally orangish and less saturated.

>>4472872
pretty cool, I like the hatching it's well done.

>>4472872
Your perspective is off, the ones that align with perspective are the best looking by far. Also try to make some shading strokes thinner, especially the ones that on the old lady

it feel off I tried to flip the canvas and move the features around to no avail, I'll maybe see the mistakes tomorrow

Little Miss Quarantine

>>4473213
Pls stop turning them sideways god

>>4470654
lil quarantine helped me to get into studies again

>>4470725
I do agree that the pose isn't particularly interesting. I also don't like the face much. That said, I adore the background. Loving the duality of the natural and the spooky castle stuff, with the tree being both natural and beautiful on one hand and somewhat distorted in the middle, becoming more and more empty. So yeah, if anything, I'd say, work on your faces, not that I'm one to talk.
>>4470939
I can't quite articulate what it is, but I think there's something about the contrast between smoother gradients and very sharp lines that annoys me. Especially something about the open eye and the central line of the mouth. Also, I really see the emotion in the closed eye, while the right seems completely emotionless to me. Aside from that, I love your coloring and shading and I definitely think I get a sense of what it's trying to convey.
>>4473355
That's good shit. Gives me the impression of a sculpture. Also love the slight exaggeration in the expression.
>>4470654
Well, I've done a bunch of critiquing, even though my own stuff is far from anything special. Did a request with a more interesting style than usual (my usual stuff being pretty standard two-tone anime-style fare and compared to my other stuff, nobody gives a shit about it.

I made a meme less funny

good evening everyone.

>>4471952
I really like this. it's endearing. i saved it

>>4473594
Winking girl dude here

Thanks for the crit anon, yeah a guy in the last thread said the same thing about the sharpness, and I agree about the lack of emotion in the eye. I feel like I can clearly identify what went wrong and will do better next time. This is also the first portrait I've done without reference in a long time so pretty happy overall

Also this was my first attempt to paint tears

This took way too long than it's supposed to be.

Something sfw. That's me in the back.

>>4474655
The tears are ok, a bit rendered to my taste but ok...
I need to tell you this, before going for something not really important like tears, you should work on your eyes, even though you want to draw stylized, knowing how an eye works is important...

>>4474998
Really cool!

I know you already finished it, but what about putting more distortion in the underwater part? Maybe going a bit more painterly?

>>4475145
NTA but quick guess he wanted to show the character in the back

>>4475138
Thanks anon

This is a study of Christ and Mary Magdalene by Rodin. I posted it in the last thread ultimately without reception. I struggled with line placement and was hoping for some advice. Thank you.

>>4471245
The contour for the neck is over extended and simple. @riccardo_federici_art would be a great reference for spicing up your beasts

Finished this trio, just need to wait for them to dry and then varnish

>>4475383
Sauce onegaishimasu

>>4475414
I typed japanese woman on google image and clicked trought random image to DL it I don't know the source.

>>4475383
>>4475423
eyebrows too far from eyes

>>4475423
By source I meant I wanted the reference picture and there it is. Domo arigatougozaimasu.

>>4474998
kek

>>4475414
>>4475423
>>4475427
>>4475447
It appears to be NGK46's Asuka Saito

Focus totally on one work until it is finished, or have multiple pieces of work incomplete that you work on bit by bit?

Kept coming back to this. Just about to finish up but am feeling like I could have pushed the values a bit harder,

Made a 1 bit Berserk fanart

>>4475615
Oh, this is from draw this in ur style thread, right?

>>4475615
bow looks flat. Like the inner values are just painted on, the silhouette doesn't match up

>>4475625
Bingo bongo m8.

>>4475626
Bow is actually one of the unfinished bits, alongside some hair pieces. I know what you're talking about though. I'm having trouble sticking to Kiki's original design whilst injecting a bit of realism into it. I did go for a realistic bow at first but it looked off.

>>4475636
if you look at the source you will see there at most is only one crease in each ear of the bow and simple shading to define the crease. Either do this as well or actually define the shape of the bow for as complex as you are suggesting in your painting. There is no inbetween.

>>4475647
You're right, but I honestly don't think I have the energy to go back and change it at this point. This is my first time actually painting something and I've stared at it so long I feel like I've got square eyes. Just want it over and done with at this point.

>>4475674
its always that extra 10% that really makes a painting. Shouldn't be too hard, just lasso the two ears, and paint it like a leaf with big brushes. shouldn't take longer than a minute or two.

>>4475677
idk man I'm embarrassed to admit how long this took me. It's good practice, I overanalyse everything until I turn it into a turd. I'm still working on internalising 3D objects, so a minute or two will probably turn into 2 more hours.

>>4475682
good practice, but I*

>>4475682
Its going to be like this with every painting. It feels good to start a new one, but not completing

>>4475685
pls no it hurts

>>4475692
its not as bad as you think, if you get used to it early on you won't make as much of a fuss about it later and you will thank yourself for building up resolve

surrealist windmills

>>4472872
these look very inconsistent, some are kinda ok and the others are just messed up (first and fifth), work on your head structure

evening

working on photobashing and digital paint

>>4474655
They look too viscous to me. Also seems wrong how there's several separate ones coming from all over the eye and not flowing as more of a stream but as lots of separate drops.

>>4474655
more like coom

>>4475957
>every head has to have the exact proportions from the book I read

Oh your at that level still huh

>>4473355

Damn well executed study. How long did it take you? Procreate pastel brushes? Gotta try that some more, looks so good

>>4475336
I like it as is but it comes off as a bit pale / undefined. Try squinting your eyes so you can see what I mean, the darks could be darker. There is also some confusion over head/neck/arm area of the woman, needs to be more defined. Otherwise it's lovely

>>4476737
Yeah that's a good point anon, I really should have at least glanced at a ref first

>>4477049
Well art is subjective I guess ;)

>>4477318
Well, he's not wrong. It does look more like cum than tears, sorry to say.

>>4477364
You must have feeble ejaculate

>>4477148
Currently at 27hrs but planning to take it till 100 for the results. Using PSKI pencil and AMB canvas blender. Thanks for the good crit anon

>>4475957
LOL I don't take advice from this place
i came to serve, not to be served

>>4476151
Nice use of perspective.

>>4470952
The colors are nice, keep it up anon

>>4473355
The rendering looks great. The left part looks a bit rushed compared to how tight the rendering of the face is. And I think there is too much contrast because of the white background. It would be less harsh with a light gray background which would allow you to use white for highlights. Impressive work anyway.

>>4472114
Awesome work. I agree with the other anon, the sky is too saturated. Overall the values are too similar which makes the image difficult to read. I think it needs more differentiation between light and shade for it to work.

>>4470952
This looks lovely too. There are nice subtleties in the grass. The linework for the background elements is too rushed though. Especially on the trees. It flattens the picture. Maybe draw it more carefully like you did for the characters or try to remove it entirely. Compositionally the girl is slightly too close to the edge of the frame. I feel like it needs more negative space overall.

this has been unfinished for over a year now. Im finnaly getting around to completing it

>>4478662
looks cool, the fat guy with the cigar looks off. Poor gesture(looks a bit stiff) and scale

>>4478079
Very nice. Good use of color and atmospheric perspective.

>>4470698
i really like these anon :)

>>4478661
Ah thank you for pointing that out. I struggle a lot with line thickness and consistency. Is this better? As for the composition, the empty space is for words. I should have explained that it's for a kid's book.

>>4478268
Oh whoops! I meant to say thank you!

>>4478800
Yep, looks much better. The tree texture still feels a little flat. Since the trunk is cylindrical the texture should be compressed around the edges. But that's mostly nitpicking. When I talked about empty space it was mostly about giving more breathing room to the girl since the flower is almost tangent to the edge of the canvas. It doesn't matter all that much since the main narrative element seems to be the wolf's head. It looks quite good anyway

>>4478934
Great, thank you. I'll still fix the trees and I'll see what I can do to help the girl. She does conflict unpleasantly with the side and makes it kind of hard to look at her. If anything, I'll just move them more center-focus.

exploring my characters, I know her foot is shit, going to fixit later

>>4478983
Cute idea! Looks like a neat post-apocalyptic story, and cute dogs are always a plus.

>>4478988
thanks anon, this is a follow up to this one and I like you got the idea so quickly, it's exactly a post apocalyptic story so maybe I'm going in the right way

Perspective is a tad wonky but im just gonna roll with it. Anything that has to change?

can someone please tell me what the fuck is wrong here?

>>4470698
I honestly use basic ballpoint pens pretty often. Those seem to retain the sketchy quality.

How y'all doin'

>>4479838
Needs more contrast in the face and hair, and everything under the chin is incredibly flat, need to add more light and shadow to create contrast and form.

>>4479838
Eyes seem a little to squinted,
>>4479190
Love this, always have trouble with backgrounds so this is the kinda of stuff i envy.
>>4478983
Like the primes, would enjoy seeing it fleshed out.
>>4478800
This is awesome, maybe id move the wolf/girl just a bit lower to frame the characters little better?


Havent painted in years and thought id give it a shot. How can I improve?

>>4479838
Pic related is some tweaks I would do.

1. Drawing on a grey background is just asking for a muddy drawing. Try throwing in a more decisive background, maybe a darker brown or lighter yellow (from his jackets emblems). Consider pumping up the saturation of the reds in his face.

2. Flip your canvas. If you flip your canvas, you'll see that the structure of the face is slightly off, which throws off the whole face. The biggest offense here is that most of his face is drawn to look like its facing to the left. However, the far side of his face is drawn as if it were head-on. The brow, the eyes, and the cheek are drawn in a way that doesn't wrap around the structure of the head. That side of the face goes from light-to-dark way too quickly, which flattens an area that shouldn't be flat. Try using a smoother gradation

3. Going off #2 - as it stands, the nose looks real wonky. There shouldn't be such a sharp shadow going down the side of it. His right (our left) nostril is basically non existent. Again - it looks like the nose was drawn at an angle that the rest of the face isn't in. Add some mass to his right nostril to balance things out.

4. Again - off #2, you should just redraw his right eye (our left). Flipping the canvas will show you how wonky it is & how it's inconsistent with the other eye.

4. Some of the really dark values don't make any sense in regards to how dark they are. Lighten some of them up (especially on the neck).

Hope this helps!

character i made up. was going for a over the top english brawler stereotype. any critique would be appreciated, thanks.

>>4481202
Not a whole lot to critique, since it's still real rough.

It could really benefit from a little bit of a wider range of values, and a few even higher value highlights to make certain things pop (don't overdo it though, I enjoy the overall midtones!).

Some shadows seem odd, particularly on his neck. They're oddly sharp.

A simple rimlight would fit in well, but that's a personal choice.

this thread is fucking filled with /beg/ shit

>>4480355
youre a god send thanks anon

>>4470654
Wip

>>4475615
beautiful, really pleasant to look at

>post 6 fanart draw challege on twitter
>some dork posts pic related
>luckily 15 minutes after I had already finished the drawing

eat shit asshole, probably got there sooner to another artist that might've done it instead of letting 5 more people have a turn

>>4473355
Not to shit on this, it's great, but double-check the rounding of the mouth, it seems too pushed to the left and the right side (his left) lip corner isn't rounding off the way his face is.

Or post ref so I can see what the absolute fuck the original is doing.

Great work again.

>>4481253
You made his character look like he was covered in grease

I'm trying to draw something cute. It's still not finished, but I'd like to hear your thoughts while I'm working.

Okay how is this??

>>4481451
How long have you been drawing and for how many hours a day?

I... quite like it.

>>4470952
Well done on the colors. I really like this drawing.
>>4471023
Getting some major Miyazaki vibes from this
>>4472114
Very cool
>>4481434
That whisk not too heavy for the bunny? Especially since it grabs it by the end and not somewhere in the middle of the handle.

I made a drawing of a pottery dude in his workshop

>>4481461
And of course I forgot to resize

>>4481464
Very graphic. Much design.

>>4481464
Killin' it, as usual.

>>4481451
>>4481290
Looks much, much, much better. Rich, saturated colors can really elevate a piece, and that yellow background is so much stronger than a flat grey BG.

Though, I hope this isn't some pro-nazi bullshit and instead just a simple character you wanted to draw, otherwise I'd totally regret helping you.

>>4481511
no its not some "pro nazi" shit lmao he was a an anti-naxi german pilot. Im going to do an american from ww2 next.

>>4481511
Why are you such a fag

>>4481511
>, I hope this isn't some pro-nazi bullshit
Back to red dit, kikelover

>>4481535
funny you say that i got banned from a facebook group earlier when people started accusing me of being a nazi. lol

Harsh critique appreciated. Just broke through a wall and I'm trying not to get complacent (again).

>>4481451
Absolutely fantastic, man. Genuinely love it. Only tiny nitpick is that I think you'd be able to see the white trim on his left lapel, even with him slightly turned.

>>4481464
Have you done pro work? Serious question, because I could swear I've seen your stuff on a poster or an ad or something.

Any immediate thoughts? thanks

>>4481959
a nig

>>4481959
ear too small, seems like you missed a lot of small but important details that define form, values could be blended better

>>4481981
pyw

>>4481959
Jaw too long, chin too spherical.
Like it though, off to a good start.

>>4481985
i just posted my immediate thoughts
he is a nig

>>4482018
Well you're not wrong, but you're also not very helpful.

>>4481464
That is so kawaii

>>4481959
>average_american_soldier.jpg

>>4470939
You should do some isolated eye studies

>>4481464
I despise this style but this is really good still.

>>4481987
his face looks very plausible to me, your 'critique' is worthless, my dude

>>4481959
yeah, you didn't finish his shirt

>>4481959
eh?

finally at the finish line on this

>>4482436
needs proper FG-MG-BG seperation and a more definitive lightsource
its mostly values that you need to improve on

>>4482246
Will do

>>4481467
>>4481491
>>4482247
>>4482173
Thank youu!
>>4481872
>Have you done pro work? Serious question, because I could swear I've seen your stuff on a poster or an ad or something.
Yeah I make commercial artwork all the time. Mostly storyboards and illustration for animated ads.

>>4482525
yeah, highlights and painting the foreground character is my slog for the day but damn, i really liked where you took it! i'll keep your paintover in consideration much as possible!
Thanks!

Doing a wee study.

>>4482645
I know it's a figurinee but her abdominal lumps are fucking awful

>>4482672
It's why I chose this figurine! I need practice on the abdomen and this artist sculpts them super pronounced.

>>4481959
mouth not in perspective

>>4482680
>and this artist sculpts them super pronounced.
Super fucking wrong, this sculptor din't study abdomen in thee first place.
This is an example of bad anatomy making it into the production.

Go look at female and male bodybuilders instead. just fucking google fitgirl abs.

>>4482680
its not pronounced its jus anatomically wront

>>4482703
>>4482704
I was aware that it was highly stylised when I chose it. I didn't choose it for its anatomical accuracy. The lizard tail I'm going to attach to her rear probably won't be anatomically accurate either.

My dudes, I suck at expressions. How do I make the zombie shorty not look fucking DEAD? She has this subtle expression that shows serenity and calmness, but at the same time she shows fierceness, like she's ready for battle.

>>4482825
Eyelids, eyebrows and mouth in your case. But the drawing seems like a really bad trace job and lacks construction that connects the whole thing together desu.

Back to /beg/ and do some unstylized studies of people's faces and expressions. Be that anon that just does copies of photos from IG thots.

>>4482288
Your chin does not curve up under your jaw, especially not when viewed from a low angle view, dumdum. Looks like he has a fucking softball in his face.

>>4482311
You are apparently a very controversial figure. But you paint a pretty mean coastguardsman, amigo.

>>4482854
My chin doesn't but theirs does.
Please refrain yourself from critiquing others in the future and try to study fundamentals instead.

>>4483079
I don't want to be rude but that guy's right. The darker shapes on the chin is actually the underside of the jaw.

>>4483079
Look man, I've been polite, but study more before trying to intercept critique meant for someone outside your skill level. This is a common mistake. Up angled head, down angled jaw. It's unconscious to avoid drawing the connection of the neck/jaw.

Either the artist will care or he won't, but it is what it is.

>>4470725
Wtf
Your bg looks dope and the figure is beg tier. Did you spend a lot of time drawing landscapes?

>>4483348
that angle is hella skewed senpai

my comic

my comic

>>4483391
Exaggerated for effect. Wanted to make a point.

critique would be appreciated.

>>4483391
Exaggerated for effect. It's not too glaring in the painting, but it is there. No idea why our local goober is so upset about that.

>>4483503
first impressions are that he would have more chest mass based on his physique, the eye seems too small as well and placed too far forward in the socket. the highlight on the index finger should be a shadow area and it seems like he only has one arm. the hair seems to sink into the skull flattening and ruining the form

i still don't see what's the difference btwn this and the beg thread.

>>4483543
imagine taking time out of your life to make a petty pointless bitchy post like this just to get the tiny rush of dopamine from your addiction to being a spiteful bitter cunt on the internet

>>4482436
apparently i was further away than i thought but this is how far i got today, still a few more boxes i wanna check off but the biggest grind is behind me at least..

I feel like trying realism for a change, what are some good materials on constructing the faces?

>>4478983
i like the characters! nice style blog?

>>4483348
outside my skill level? what do you suggest I do? ask beg?

>>4485075

You dont belong in beg, but if you're here for compliments just say so. You asked for critique and I gave it, then you got indtantly hostile. Comparing it to the ref actually makes it a bit worse, unfortunately. Learn to construct shapes. Referencing values from a pic can only take you so far. But you're on the right track if you'll chill out and draw.

Like I said. Learn from it or dont. Either way, best of luck.

>>4485075#

You dont belong in beg, but if you're here for compliments just say so. You asked for critique and I gave it, then you got indtantly hostile. Comparing it to the ref actually makes it a bit worse, unfortunately. Learn to construct shapes. Referencing values from a pic can only take you so far. But you're on the right track if you'll chill out and draw.

Like I said. Learn from it or dont. Either way, lets let somebody else have the attention for a bit. Best of luck to you, man.

Thoughts?

>>4485143
Yes they are

>>4485143
>thoughts?
The original Tin Man actor almost died from his toxic aluminium-infused makeup and I think that's pretty wack.

>>4471287
underrated

>>4485161
That's pretty Metal.

>>4482645
how you did this?

>>4483406
Looking good. Post updates!

Iroh WIP

>>4485143
Are you the guy that kept trying to draw that cyclops child leaning onto a gravestone exposing her ass?

Also, there's coom threads for this kind of material.

>>4483503
His eye is veeeery light. Sclera are not that light. It should be the same tone as the lightest part of your painting.

>>4481959
His forehead ain’t big enough.

>>4485387
No, show me cyclops, show me coom threads.

>>4485167
1. Find a figurine in a pose you like
2. Overlay a grid on top
3. Generate a blank canvas and paste the grid on a separate layer
4. Sketch the figure in, following the grid to ensure accuracy
5. Swap to a brush and get to work

I used an airbrush, blur tool, and a custom brush which mimics knife blend on a palette. I changed a few things from the original, like adding nipples instead of pasties, changed some of proportions etc.

>>4485658
im not suure youre are studying well to resort to something like this. Learn construction, anatomy, unironically loomis and hogarth.

>>4485662
I already draw, I'm doing this to learn to paint.

Was a pencil fag most of my life. Got a tablet 2 years ago, rejected learning how to paint properly because I thought I'd missed the boat on it a long time ago, Turns out I'm retarded so now I'm doing stuff like >>4485658 to try and get a better grasp on value and painting techniques. Pic related is how I usually draw.

>>4485658
this is the old school process, even michalangelo did this on the sistine chapel, very useful for accurate and fast ref drawing
but i gotta ask, doesnt it with time, begin to be a crutch? its easy to fall into the trap of only drawing with these tools instead of evolving skills with freehand, do you think this has had any effect on you?

>>4485724
>but i gotta ask, doesnt it with time, begin to be a crutch
You're going to to have to ask that to somebody who regularly does studies lol

>its easy to fall into the trap of only drawing with these tools instead of evolving skills with freehand, do you think this has had any effect on you?
I really wouldn't know, I usually draw freehand >>4485683. I've actually never done a study in my life, this is the first time, and only my second time trying to paint something.

>>4485724
Just to add, I've never used a grid before either. First time. Learned about the process like 6 years ago but never really tried using it before. Works bretty gud.

>>4485658
Nothing wrong with that method. Your painting skills are pretty good already and I love your linework. The anatomy on your reference is super funky though

Rubens study. I know... right hand is too big. In the original drawing there are some disproportions but they look like deliberate expression, in my case it looks /beg tier.

>>4486166
Thanks. And yeah, the anatomy is giga-fucked, but I deliberately sought out a reference with stylised anatomy. Next study is going to be a traditional male figure study though.

- A General PSA -

I would just like to remind you people that taking advice from strangers on this board is a pretty bead idea in the first place. If None of you have noticed yet, there is no one great frequenting this board and the general skill level of posts has not improved in the last eight or so years. This is because this board holds no appeal to those on a higher skill level and naturally these people will leave the board and go elsewhere; mainly for inspiration and less for critique.

You might be wondering where these people go and what alternative communities exist for the middling artist and I can assure you that there is really no place (on the internet) better than this one. There exists no other platform for anonymous critique and it is anonymity that remains this boards highest and most effective quality. No one can make any posts without the authority gained from the merit of their own written word. The only true alternative source for critique is in fact, real life. I could source my own experience as a college educated classically trained painter, but this is the internet so I'm lying. The problem with real life is that people are concerned with feelings and not hurting them and this is the main advantage of anonymous posting. There is no consequence to hurting someones feelings in an anonymous platform. So you might be wondering, what really is the best source for critique?

It's you stupid. You are responsible for enabling your own self improvement. That is the secret that tens of thousands to a hundred thousand dollars worth of education should be preparing you for. It really is a magical answer, but in the end it should make some sense that you should be the most effective person at identifying your own weaknesses.

This is an +18 board. If you want to improve, you should train like an adult. Cut the degenerate Chinese cartoons and do some proper still life paintings. If it doesn't look like a photograph or better, keep painting.

>>4486450

- PSA Cont. -

Drawing from life will always be the express route to getting gud. You may not like it, but it's what peak effective learning looks like. It is boring and a good amount of the time, you will not enjoy what you are doing. This is all part of it. In the end there is no excuse that you can make for your own failings because in emulating real life, your reference is real and definite. you can't fall back on your style or your technique for excuses. In the end, you will be a mean green drawing machine and you will not want to go back to drawing your Chinese cartoons because you will experience a religious enlightenment in higher art. Your inspiration will come from god tier plein air painters or the classic academic drawings of past masters. You will grow as an artist and as a person. You just need to step outside of your comfort zone and admit you're not just bad, but terrible.

Deliver yourself from degeneracy and mediocrity. Draw from life. Maybe even one day, a qt3.14 will ask you to draw her like one of your french girls and you will do it. And then you will do her.

But first. Draw your still lives. Pay your dues. Leave the anime behind, you won't need it where you're going.

>>4486466
thank you anon i'm starting drawing today
wish me luck

>>4486450
>>4486466
>he thinks he's saving the newfags
>he doesnt realize this is one of the late stages of being a newfag

dont try to help these animals this place is for purely entertainment purposes

>>4486479
Don't confuse my coherent sense of direction with optimism, Mortal. I've been frequenting this board so long that I don't perceive time as a linear construct. There is only an infinite sea of mediocrity as deep as it is wide.

>>4486476
Leave this place. Make your own way. Not even god can help you.

Practicing crosshatching, fucked the head up, going to re-attempt it later.

>>4486571
...thanks

>>4471024
you made the forehead too small

from imagination. the shoulders/arms look bad but idk why?

>>4486723
shoulders dont wrap around the form of the torso and boobs are too high and off center

>>4486740
>shoulders dont wrap around the form of the torso
what would that look like?

>>4486450
>None of you have noticed yet, there is no one great frequenting this board

This is objectively my true. There's not that many I can name off the top of my head, but there's that artist who drew those skinwalking girls in the wood being approached by English soldiers. idk their name, but their ability places them in the high-tier of professionalism. You're right that they gain nothing from posting here though.

I do save art from great artists who post here though, so I'll see if I can rustle some pieces up and post them.

>>4486753
This is a WIP piece by that artist I mentioned.

>>4486748
kinda like this

>>4486757
thanks, but how do you show that without the individual muscles or such a defined deltoid? it's a thin female shoulder

>>4486755
Another imaginative piece from an /ic/ user.

>>4486767
From a "draw this in your own style" thread ages ago. Piece is limited in its subject, but displays good grasp of value, colour etc. and I'd love to see more of the OP's work.

Fuck it here goes.

>>4471747
If you’re gonna half-ass a bg just don’t bother, remember that the bg is part of the artwork and not separate.

>>4486784
shoulders look better but i think the bulbous nose and longer face ruins a lot of the appeal, boobs are still off center. look at the length of the straps and the vertical line from the center of the cleavage to the pit of the neck

>>4486723
Adding to what the other guy said. The joint where the humerus connects to the shoulder is mostly just bone and skin, and should be (more or less) directly above the center of the arm. Your shoulder curve starts a wee bit too early.

I'd either bend the arm outwards some to make the joints meet, or you could push the "point" of the shoulder wideer out to meet the arm. All in all though, nice job my man.

>>4486770

Holy shit is that Teal? I could swear those are his shapes/proportions.

>>4486809
>i think the bulbous nose and longer face ruins a lot of the appeal
yeah, i know it turned her ugly lol. i'm playing around with features for fun

>>4486850
thanks anon! I tried it and I think it made a big difference!

>>4486853
Simon? Huh, might actually be now that you mention it

>when Simon follows you on Twitter and you don't know why cause you're shit

>>4486997
it kills me that youre not fixing the boobs

>>4486999
>Simon
Never knew his name. Teal was all over the place back in the day, then I took a break from 4chan and when I came back he'd completely dropped off the map. Haven't seen him since, thus my surprise. What's his full handle? I'd love to see what he's up to again.

>>4486997
Oh hell yeah, man. Big improvements. And not just the suggestions people made. You cleaned that up really nicely.

>>4486999
>>4487029
god i am so sick of all the Teal namedrops. it's the newfag's "look i fit in" namedrop go-to. Nobody fucking mentions anyone else because they werent around long enough to know anyone real

>>4486997
Her eyes looks like taxidermy-tier
Add some lights and shadows

>>4487033
>recognize art that may be from specific artist
>"Oh hey, is that specific artist?"

>"HURR TALK ABOUT A DIFFERENT ARTIST"

Ironically, only poser oldfags would make a post like this. Go take your meds, newfriend.

Am I gonna make it?

>>4487049
suck my cock nigger. i wasnt talking about that specific instance learn to read cuntfuck schizo

>>4487045
would have been better to add lighting coming from the screen, but idk how to do that, so i did lighting from the side :-( now I know what to practice next tho

>>4471747
Face is alright I guess, everything else is atrocious tho.
Study figure drawing/anatomy then composition, this could be a great piece just with a simple but effective composition

>>4487084
Potential

Also, though if you take a closer look you can see line weight variety, from first impressions it looks like one solid continuous line. I'd recommend either making your brush bigger or making your canvas smaller. My favorite part about this drawing is the shoulder

>>4485104
just give up, he is a lost cause. some people are immune to ciritique

i'm drawing a bug today

>>4487029
It's simon_7617118.

>>4487033
I've been browsing 4chan since 2006 but okay lmao

>>4487622
nice

most recent one

>>4487718
sorry forgot to resize!

>>4487718
This is lovely! I like his artichoke.

>>4487720
thanks, a friend challenged me to redraw a character from a medieval book about carnivals, here is the ref

>>4487429
thanks, I'm still figuring brushes out, and I'm retarded at resizing, I'll bear it in mind

How about this Eizouken Fanart my guys?

>>4470654

>>4478742
Thanks man
>>4479841
Yeah, I always leaned towards them, maybe that's it
>>4486596
I overlayed the drawing over the original photo later and it lined up, might be because she does her bangs way above her hairline

>>4488207
Now what?

can you guys help me with this one?
I really want to improve but I rarely get any critiques/redlines here...

>>4488265
How much of this did you lift from reference and how much of it did you make up on the fly? There's an uneven quality to the whole thing that throws it off. Some areas are very well made, others are terrible. It doesn't line up very well.

You've put in some areas too much outline detail with an even thickness to line quality that makes it seem very flat. The boys right leg and woman's left leg are examples of that.

Lastly, and most obviously, The proportions of the boy don't make any sense. Look at the size of his hands, head, and feet, and compare it to the length of his body.

Proportions of the woman can also be improved but that's a separate thing.

>>4488302
Thank you very much! I used reference for the womans left hand (took a photo of my own holding my stylus).
I see how the boys proportions are wack, I think his legs are too long, I'll shorten them. And the womans right leg needs a complete rework.
What do you mean with the line thickness? I don't quite understand.

>>4488343
>Thank you very much! I used reference for the womans left hand (took a photo of my own holding my stylus).

That is the area that I saw as being most developed compared to the rest. If you could get the other focal parts to look like that, that would be awesome. Just my opinion.

>What do you mean with the line thickness? I don't quite understand.

This is easier said than done so don't take this as gospel, but it goes something like this.

You've done an outline of the two figures and the line thickness needs to be adjusted based on what you want to show.

1. If you want to show the effect of light without rendering anything, you can have thin lines where the form receives the light at the edge (rim lighting). Where two forms meet and are pressing against one another, like her breast and his chest, you can have that be thicker to indicate a deep concavity/occlusion shadow.

2. If you want to show depth, you can have edges closer to the viewer be thicker, and edges further in space be thinner.

3. Variations of the two which is most often what is used, because you need to play around with it anyway to achieve an effect that looks "good" (highly subjective).

You have some line variance in her hand which is more or less what I'm talking about already. However, the over all effect that you currently have is that the two figures are "cut out" because the line thickness is pretty much consistent around them, without enough variation. Her leg is receding in space, but the line thickness is exactly the same throughout.

Some people do this for a "poster" like effect, but I don't think you're going for that.

Here's a book you'll like. Scroll down to "Line Weight":

https://johndisgrafico.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/the-art-of-comic-book-inking.pdf

just some 15s gesture drawings to warm up

>>4488257
Love it. Big soul energy.

>>4488233
heck yeah, very nice.

What am I doing wrong

>>4488510
It's not all bad. You can spend more time measuring. There is too much symbol drawing overall. Drop the outlines and focus on values. Pay attention to the background value as well. The hues are surprisingly accurate, assuming you're not color picking.

>>4488510
looks like he had six fingers but two were cut off

>>4488389
Ms paint, nice

>>4488257
Very playful. I love it. Too bad the figures don't read as well with the title.

>>4487718
Very nice too. The white background is a bit harsh. It might be better presented with a slightly colored background. The gesture is a bit unclear. Is he leaning? I really like how you stuck to the reference's design. Very original.

>>4487622
Beautiful linework and design. Still quite flat at this stage and a bit too much soft brush usage for my taste. I'd love to see this finished

I would appreciate some critique

>>4488257
really lovely shapes

did a drawing of my friend today

Muh DND character, alcoholic skeleton.

>>4486450
nice blog, pyw crab

>>4488510
>draws louis ck
>turns into volen ck

gmi

>>4488678
Good shit ! More anon

Newfag here. My first attempt at artistic nudity. I dont use references; critique appreciated

>>4488678
How did you learn to render like that?

>>4488712
Thanks, I wanted him to kind of rest on his spear, I guess I didnt put enough weight, I did use a ref of myself resting on a stick tho.

>>4487718
Redrew an old drawing today

How am I doin?

>>4488233
Could I get some feedback

>>4488233
Very cool design. One thing I would change is to give a different treatment to character and background. Despite being darker, the surrounding appears to have a similar level of detail as the main subject. Not sure if this is a WIP or finished piece but If you want to refine this painting, try giving the character more defined edges. Use a smaller brush and add more contrast to the elements that are closer to the viewer (the tail for example).

>>4488965
still drawin, not really sure where I'm going yet, I might just end up filling it with characters from imagination and try a bunch of stuff.

>>4486466
Where can i add you? (Unironically)

here is a recent. I cant put color because I cant shade correctly.

>>4489658
Leave it for now then go back to it a week later, good just muddy, make sure to group shadows and light don’t keep your values too messy

Geez you all are so good at art. I wish I could create pieces like you guys. Do you see any striking issues that I should focus on? This is my third drawing since middle school btw.

>>4489026
you are newfag that doesnt use references yet could produce that form imagination?? if so, great work. but use references, so you can compare

>>4489060
dont draw on lined paper. it devalues the work immediately. also resize photos.

>>4489036
I love this, it has a comfy feel to it while the subject is serious. great stylization

>>4489325
love it so far

>>4490701
you did a presentation of a character, as if we are looking at him straight on. The pose is stiff, you can avoid that by drawing a gesture line through the whole body. Proportions / anatomy / perspective, that's what you should focus on

drew this today, used yoshitaka amanos drawing as a reference, added the snake crown. I like the idea so far

>>4489658
composition is strange, maybe crop a lot the area to the left. Also you need some sharp edges in there. everything look ssoft.

Some perspective issues as well. The mouth is on a different plane than the rest. And the ear is too far back

>>4471826
Yeah I was having trouble getting the light right without making it taking too much attention away from the rest of the picture, its still not perfect but its done for now.

>>4471231
>>4481461

Thanks

I haven't been painting much anymore, depression makes it difficult to want to do anything.
So I tried to express that and this is what I got.

>>4471201
I love this one anon
>>4491337
This is cool you did a good portrayal of the subject although I feel like the semi-circle in the background kind of takes away from the hopeless feeling you were trying to convey

The strong me look the worst of the bunch

Any tip?

Shit, watching corona news 24/7 is not healthy.

>>4491892
shadows too sharp / not logical

>>4492471
nice

>>4492471
It's good I'd just remove the pupils and cornea from the eyes as they look a little goofy, ominous and I think it look more sbooby like evil dead styled deadites though you do what you wish as it's lookin pretty fuckin cool.

>>4470654

New thread:
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>>4493302
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