/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>4468678
I don't care what anyone says, you're a good dog

>>4468678
good doggy, your text edits keep getting better

What's your energy boosting drink preference?
Coffee? Tea? Water?

>>4468699
tea and dark chocolate

>>4468699
If you're staying up late, water is probably your best bet. For immediate energy, espresso shots or matcha is good.

>>4468699
Matcha when I REALLY need the caffeine boost but caffeine without the l-theanine makes me too jittery to be productive. Matcha is the perfect calm and focused energy boost. But I rarely use it for personal projects, only when I feel like I really need it to work on something that I have low motivation to do like when I was in college.

>>4468699
sleep well , eat well , use caffeine moderately in an intelligent manner and have sex.

>>4468699
Coffee mostly.
I usually drink it black with a bit of onions milk sometimes but my guilty pleasure are sugary creamers... like the Dunkin’ Donuts one. Shit is so sweet.
Also really like Harney & sons hot cinnamon spice tea.

>>4468715

>have sex

2018 wants its meme back

>>4468699
Coffee. Do squats. Listen to mallWave https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kovd7OzcU9s

>>4468720
>onions milk
What the fuck autocorrect.
I meant onions milk.

>>4468725
s o y gets changed to onions on 4chan since 2016, I believe.

>>4468725
Oh what the fuck i didn’t know about this s o y filter. Fucking 4chan

>>4468699
I drink half a litre of strong coffee, everyday, half an hour before drawing.

>>4468699
Don't drink, if you are tired you must sleep. If you have to go to work you fucked up, go to sleep earlier

Caffiene will ruin you in the long run, you will eventually grow more and more tolerant of its affects until you are unable to relieve the tiredness no matter how much you drink. and if you do no drink at all at that point you will experience unpleasant withdrawl symptoms.

Quit now, it will only get worse the longer you continue to drink

>>4468729
Fuck, no one uses the term s o y b o y anymore anyway. Some of these filters just need to go t b h

Coomer challenge now has 100+ entries, good job

>>4468746
i wish i never entered

>>4468699
Before the past month, straight coffee black. Now pretty much water, not waking up nearly as early as prior.

>>4468735
Eh, I love coffee but I only drink two cups a day.
I think as long as you're not overdoing it you are fine.
If I drink one cup at 5-6pm I can stay up past midnight until I start to get tired. If I don't drink coffee I can go to bed tired at around 10-11.
I think the key is just not overdoing it.

me on the left (You) on the right

Thinking about kicking off several "International ____ Day " challenges. Previously I setup Lizard, Donut, Star Wars, and World Inventor days. , thoughts on optimizing these challenges, any specific requirements or day requests? I'm thinking 3 of these Day challenges, +/- 1.

>>4468778
God, I wish that was me.

>>4468783
Feels weird to have separate challenges for every international X day.
Though maybe a calendar feature on the site itself for something like that might be fun.

>>4468783
could you make the deadline a day either side of the official day? people have missed day only challenges in the past a lot because of forgetting or being at work late that day etc

>>4468783
I wish there was a pie day challenge. I remember there's a donut day? A pancake day? Kek, 420 is coming up, I guess.

No one will realize that I can't into anatomy as long as I hide it behind unhealthy amounts of rendering, right?

>>4468810
Yeah no one will notice a thing

So what's the consensus on giving critiques to dads that didn't explicitly ask for it?
Should I do it? Or is only praise allowed?

where did wilbe go

>>4468814
Enough about the hand, can we talk about the left buttcheek like yooooo

>>4468819
>or is only praise allowed
Soooooooo so sorry for oppressing you from your insatiable need to lord over everyone.

>>4468819
You can give it to them but it would make you look like an asshole, because you'd be wasting your breath on someone who doesn't want it, meaning they're not going to learn or absorb your critique, meaning your intention wasn't to help them improve, only to be run your mouth.

>>4468828
Ah! Got it! Thanks for that summary Anon.

>>4468678
ShrineyDog! Could you write in the OP that you should critique only submissions that ask for it?
I mean, this "Please comment on each other artwork" bit could be misinterpreted.

>>4468819
Do it anyway. Putting your work on the internet makes it fair game.

>>4468832
comments are still wanted by most people though, if people want specific crit they can say in their description and I'll give it to them, I've done that with a few people now

>>4468819
dab on them and put your balls in their mouth

>>4468833
Yeah, no one is stopping people from being assholes, so just go ahead and make an ass of yourself.

>>4468846
>I want to feel good and be complimented always. Pls no bad thought. Pls no bad feel

>>4468850
*unzips costume*
Feel good feel

>>4468850
It's not about what I want, it's the general consensus that unwanted crit makes you look like an entitled ass 90% of the time.

>>4468858

I don't entirely agree with this.
Sure, some people might not want crit or might be emotionally vulnerable, but if you point out positive aspects of their work alongside meaningful ways to improve, without putting down the effort itself, that's a completely reasonable thing to do unsolicited.

>>4468866
...that's the other 10% on this board.

>>4468869
We're talking about DAD and comments, though.
For the most part, every one who has given me unsolicited crit has given helpful suggestions without the need for the typical /ic/ crabbiness or unnecessary ego.

>>4468858
I want crit, always. Do I seriously need to ask for it in every single one of my submissions? Just do it if you want to. Who doesn’t want advice to improve? Aren’t we all on DAD because we want to get better? When Banana allows us to put descriptions/bios I’ll make sure to put that critique is always welcome, but right now it feels silly and unnecessary to have to ask for crit every single time if we are always open to it.

>>4468875
I think it was mentioned that critique structure was coming to the site at some point.

Still a bit of a ways to go.

>>4468875
>Do I seriously need to ask for it in every single one of my submissions?
Yes.

>>4468882
What the fuck? Fuck off!

>>4468872
I think dad is better about not being crabby, but I do know a fair bit of unsolicited crit I've gotten from dad has been completely useless because the critiquers did not understand what I was doing. I just think it's better to avoid giving unsolicited crit unless you have a very clear idea of what the artist is trying to do, or else you're just wasting your own time.

>>4468882
Do you want critique, or are you just posting for the sake of posting? You should specify that.

>>4468888
Perhaps when the crit structure is added to the site, the submission poster could specify what aspects they want critiqued? Would that be useful?

>>4468701
based based based

>>4468888
>crit I've gotten from dad has been completely useless because the critiquers did not understand what I was doing
Then you're a retard for not telling them that.

if I get dubs I criticize every submission for a week

>>4468894
This. If you don't know what to write in your description it's because you were drawing aimlessly.

>>4468894
I told them afterwards, I didn't explain what I was doing originally because I wasn't looking for crit, and was just posting my daily art lol. My point is, if people aren't asking for crit you usually don't know what the artist wants help on

>>4468896
Me too. BUlly style

>>4468898
Aimlessly. Drawing.

>>4468896
if digits I ascend to be DAD's best porn artist and crit every coomer week entry next year

>>4468904
So? Sometimes people aimlessly draw because it gets their mind off things.

How do I become a popular dad?

gottagitgud describing the many types of giant veiny penises with a beautiful and elegant handwriting made me really laugh and idk why

>>4468932
Blog link?

when did sleepy get so lazy?

>>4468819
if you seem to have more experience than them, then go ahead. otherwise please don't

>>4468935
https://dad.gallery/submissions/59923

>>4468931
Become a furchad.

>>4468931
Be a girl and when asked to post your work.
Post your work.

I’m gonna coom

>>4468944
For maximum gains crit a dad before cooming.

>>4468882
shoo shoo whitebox!

>>4468678
shut the hell up you god damn normies.
Holy FUCK.

>>4468942
I am female : ^ )

@4468952
This post reminded me of the kys dumb fuck yuppie anon, what ever happened to them.
Maybe this is them huh.

>>4468954
h-hot
would be too anxious to talk to you through the internet / 10

Seriously though this cloud brush on the edges is kinda out of place.

Scapula forget to submit to coomer challenge?

>>4468973
That I did...I pushed it to the last minute and completely forgot to submit it properly. Oh well, I'll just keep drawing coomer shit as usual.

>>4468977
Sad!

>bunny suit overlaps with coom week
positively devilish

>bunny didn't join the bunny challenge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SbayFV4D3w

>>4468960
>recognizing posters
dumbfuck quarantined yuppie kys.
go outside .

>>4468678
How do I into steam dads?

>>4468984
I actually want to do a nice piece for that one so I'm not going to do an overlap submission

>>4468984
thanks for the reminder, I might combine it with the final fantasy thing too

Who's your favorite coomer so far?

>>4469054
Me.

>>4468875
Who are you?

>>4468866
I guarantee you the guy who complained about critiquing and acting like giving praise is some sort of stifling oppression is not looking out for the artist's best interest and only here to put them down / raise himself up.

>>4468936
I thought the same. I miss the two big illustrations he did, but maybe it took a lot out of him.

>>4468936
>>4469105
So do people here just not appreciate how much effort goes into those highly polished illustrations? Into even a polished drawing of a single character/object? I keep seeing that criticism, "good but not consistent," and for daily posters at that. Art is hard. Takes time to do quality.

>>4469118
That's sort of the point of DAD, and what I like about it.
With people posting daily, you are going to get everything. The bad days. The WIPs. The struggles and failures.
It isn't some pristine instagram, tumblr or DA where only the perfect eye-grabbing things are shown. This is the ugly side that nobody sees, a vulnerable unseen world that we're sharing with each other and that's a great thing.

>>4469118
I gave him an out, it probably took a lot out of him. Someone actually quantified it once how many shitposts and doodles it takes to rebuild stamina (even in the big name twitter artist) I'm just saying if I had his level of skill and ability I'd love to do more.

>>4469121
Based.

>>4469121
That's how I'm treating it. I've uploaded some absolute garbage that I would never post anywhere else. Not afraid of being judged for it or anything, I just find the "not consistent" criticism strange is all. If anything it's relatable.

>>4469118
This.
I’m tired of weeklies getting praised for just posting polished work and dailies who are good getting shit on when they post wips or quick studies.
People just don’t know how to judge others when there’s a mix of these types of dads.

I listened to David Guetta's "Play Hard" probably 200 times yesterday and now I can't go to bed because its stuck in my head. What do

>>4469133
listen to one of those thunderstorm background asmr videos to drown it out

>>4469121
This completely, though I felt very trapped in original LAS by unwanted attention and pressure

>>4469133
Listen to a different song first or listen to a 10 hour rain and wind type video

>>4469137
What do you mean attention and pressure?
>>4469137
>>4469136
I listened to 30m of a 1hr sleep meditation and it didn't work. Quarantine is fucking up my schedule and not sleeping is fucking up my gains.

>>4469143
I was a weekone/flawless and if I posted bad work or sketches outside my comfort zone it'd get posted here to try get people to laugh at it
So I felt I could never take time off and never spend time on something I didn't know would be presentable by deadline

>>4469149
that's a pretty sad situation

Hypothetically speaking, is painting my miniatures enough to maintain a streak?

>>4469158
It's visual art. If it takes you at least 30 minutes, then sure.

>>4469158
post before and afters

dads... i think i have the gay

>>4469174
who gave it to you

>>4469175
All the dads submitting gay shit to coomer week.

>>4469174
>>4469179
You're male or female? There's plenty gay coomer stuff of both, I look forward to the coming out challenge

>>4469179
you're welcome

>>4469150
yeah, it was years ago now though and I'm more relaxed about doing sketches and doodles for fun now
it also means that now I get the "you should finish stuff more" more though, can never win kek

whats the trick to being happy? do i just pretend that everything's fine and that the bad things are not that bad?

>>4469200
To a degree yeah.
This is why I always have a hard time talking to people with depression/anxiety. The way I got over some really bad times was by learning to not give a fuck and just do things that used to make me happy or relaxed even though my mind and body where telling me everything otherwise.
I think some people really do need drugs to fix chemical imbalance and get to the point where they can even fathom trying, but I think people need to also be told that they CAN be happy in life just by deciding to be. I can't stand the zoomer jokes about people telling them to just "be happy" when they have depression.
You have to give it a fucking try. Listen to happy music, look at happy things in life, be proud of yourself, believe in yourself, eventually you will start to feel better about life in general. Doesn't happen overnight but fuck all if you'd rather wallow in depression and think you're always going to feel X way.

>>4469118
>>4469121
This. The whole point of dad is to draw daily, not make masterpieces daily. It seems silly to criticize people for not making something presentable everyday when we all already know they're capable of making great work.
Honestly, seeing grear artists have off days is one of my favorite things about dad. It's not a gallery, and you really get to see all the work that goes on behind the scenes to improve and make good work.

It would be cool if you could mark a submission as "complete" and be able to view just those completed works from a dad.
I guess it would lose the point of dad not being a gallery, but it would make it easier to see what someone's completed work actually looks like at a glance.

Hello daddies. Here's your art question of the day.

What is your favorite art medium? And why is it your favorite?

>>4469233
>What is your favorite art medium?
digital.
>And why is it your favorite?
ctrl+z

>>4469233
>>4469248
this
but if I had to pick a trad medium it would be watercolor because of how forgiving it is and how loose you can get with it. Plus it's just pretty.

>>4469204
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASZooYTwgEo

>>4468897
I don't know if I'd say people "Draw aimlessly" when they do that. But rather I think dads in general are not very mindful of sharing their progress, mindset, thoughts and goals in the form of a description.
Sometimes you can tell what they're going for id it's blatant enough. Say, a study either of anatomy or life. But sometimes the goal of the piece will definitely see itself obfuscated by the users disregard for a description. This is actually quite a grievance I often have with crit streams. As there's very often much an assumption of the posters intent without knowing for sure. But then again, what can we do about this?

I think encouraging dads to hand themselves in to the description box so their upload won't have to carry all of the communicational weight would be a good idea.

Pic unrelated. Just though of featuring a random dad.

>>4469253
Interesting that you'd call it forgiving when I've met and seen many people be afraid of it for considering it rather un-forgiving.

How did you come to find it forgiving? Have you been using it for long?

>>4469261
I've kind of given up trad for a while.
I've used it for a few years.
The way I learned was very chromatic light washes. Also using a mr.clean magic eraser basically wipes all color as long as you're using decent 300lb paper, you can erase a whole colored painting if you really wanted to.
I think people that think it's unforgiving either aren't used to painting more loosely or are treating watercolor more like gauche. There's also just a few ways to use watercolor, and some of them just are less forgiving, like underpainting.

>>4469257
I would've drawn like this if the anime never got me. I am FIGHTING to keep my proportions in check

>>4469233
digital- I don't have to worry about buying paints and other materials.

for trad, maybe pencil? idk does that count?

>>4469261
>>4469264
These are old pics from what I used to paint like kind of sloppy but you get the point, I miss painting this way tbqh.

>>4468977
you can request nanners to reinstate you to the coomer challenge

>>4469280
Watercolor looks so goooood! I've tried to replicate the style digitally but gave up.

>>4469287
Yeah, that's another reason I like it, it's very tactile, you have to know how to work with the water and let it do it's thing. You can't be too pushy... until digital painting figures out some way to replicate water physics, it's really hard to get the same look.

>>4469257
Heres an even more unpopular opinion. Crits are inherently worthless.
There's no slight of technique or style that warrants ever considering another opinion versus building knowledge and flavors unique to the individual. The inherent social risk lies in embellishing the wrong attitudes towards, and reasons for doing art. The risk to the artist is detracting from fulfillment of that effort, individuality, and even creative freedom and enjoyment.
The legitimate, if worthless, use of critique is purely social adaptation. The illegitimate use of it is social jockeying. The middle ground is for people who just want a job/title out of it.

>>4468898
2.0 would of fixed this problem but it's still vaporware.

What do you lads think about an animation challenge?

>>4469319
yes

>>4469319
i probably won't join challenges anymore. i need to grind fundies before i can feel confident enough to do challenges.

>>4469314
WOKE

>>4469314
Crits aren't worthless, the problem if the person's work isn't in a similar area of what they are critiquing or don't know the subject/technique at all then it's likely worthless. Fundamental art issues are the only real exception, almost anyone can point those out besides beginners.

>>4469280
Man. okay, you need to go back to this some time. At least, if you still find it fulfilling. These look really good and given that your skill with watercolors seem to be quite competent, I think it'd be but a shame if you did not continue to pursue it.
More so since you've not been doing trad so much. Keeping a healthy balance between trad and digital might both give you interesting insights and keep your work feeling fresh as well.

>>4469314
While I do agree with you on most of this, I do believe that there's a good place for crits. At least, I do think there can be a genuine value in being provided a different perspective on the work you're currently engaged in or the progression of your work across a span of time. Which, if the crit is sincere and thoughtful, could enable you to see parts of your work with more clarity. Which I think can be especially valuable if one were to find themselves lost when confronted by a work one does not know in which direction to take.

This said though. I often find crits to ignore considering what the artist's intention is for the work, and they'd rather prefer to look at this with minutia and care more for details such as minor anatomical flaws, or slight composition mistakes which often feel quite detached from the overall goal sought with the exercise. And then such critiques could easily key into a discussion on paradigms and misguidance seen today in what comes to attitudes towards art and the reasons for producing it.

>>4469361
You're outlining minor aspects of my argument for me. But let's take the easier example- fundies. No matter what you're relying on someone else for a quick fix rather than undertaking the responsibility for it yourself. That's step one to a few wrong attitudes. You're also depriving yourself of the enjoyment of overcoming it yourself, and probably other novel discovery along the way. Even a good crit is wrong headed. But, I'm willing to agree to disagree on the basis of having different ideals than probably the majority here. I'll still think /ic/ and /dad/ are fundamentally flawed though.
>>4469359
Would you like to use my time mashine

>>4469358
I'm on your same boat. Though rather than grinding fundies I feel as if I should retreat a bit and work on more personal stuff, as the constant need to meet challenge deadlines and work on subjects I'm not 100% in love with has worn me down a bit.

>>4469378
You gave the only relevant case I'd wholesale agree with, that of a crit of "substance," in your example of providing perspective. But I'd even go so far as to disagree with a close friend critting your progress over time. It's too proud to assume that even if you "get it right," you won't still accidentally lead them astray. If you follow that reasoning. The best mental environment for creativity is somewhat naive to the process and others opinions. Again, some slippery slopes involved, primarily in human nature. Especially with a propensity to tunnel vision according to one's own perspective, or even project onto others. It's a very hard balance really, and suffice it to say I just don't find much value in the materialistic side.

>>4469368
Yeah, I remember somewhere talking about art styles/mediums in terms of true love vs infatuation. I think I’ve always just been infatuated with digital/anime style art but my true love is still trad/painting. I’ve tried combining the two but I still can’t figure out how to do it. Anime shit just makes me so happy in the end, because all my dumb ideas are in the guise of anime shit, but I still love the feeling of just painting something and I love traditional/classical art, but I don’t feel as fulfilled when I do it.
I just wish my anime stuff came as easy as it did for painting, I think I’m just being stubborn by not giving up on digital work even though my trad stuff is stronger. I swear I go through this epiphany every couple months of thinking I should just give up anime shit.... I guess I might try to do something trad since it’s been like a year since I’ve tried to combine them anyway...

>>4469406
kringle a cute

>>4469402
I think you should definitely give doing anime watercolors a shot. The piece you posted earlier was very appealing, and using watercolors with an anime style would honesly make your work stand out a lot

>>4469406
cute gremlim kringuru

>>4469406
This is wholesome

>>4469414
>search anime watercolors
>this is one of the first results

>>4469414
Yeah, I’ll try it some time soon, probably will come out like >>4469421 but I’ll try haha.

>>4469233
digital
& had my first pc when I was 8 and used to spend hours upon hours upon hours making shitty drawings in mspaint that were several mbs big and so big I couldn't put them on a floppy to take to my friends house to show him, much to my dismay.
computers have just been a massive part of my life, alongside art, so combining the two is comfy

>>4469421
Tomomi Kobayashi. I don't draw anything like her but her work gave me the spark.

>>4469233
Watercolor, I don't do it often enough though.

>homodogs fellating each other
disgusting
I wish I never went through your galleries

>>4469103
You're wrong and a faggot.

>>4469228
I like this idea. It would make making tierlists easier.

>>4469473
hi Aphid :3

>>4469473
*Sucks your dick*

I'm convinced that critiquing others really is a waste of time. Not because there's something wrong with giving helpful tips, but because you're a bunch of ungrateful hobbyist who don't care about improvement. That's just sad.

>>4469536
*Cums*

We're halfway through coomer week and I only feel like I'm hitting my stride now, I wish Cutie pie week wasn't directly after this so I'd have time draw out all of my lewd ideas

>>4469527
If you have to work this hard at living in someone's head rent free... does that actually mean you're paying the rent?

>>4469536
I told Vusta two weeks ago to use a more extreme perspective on an arm and now he's drawing fellating homodogs with a more extreme perspective so I think that's time well spent.

>>4469548
Lately Vusta's stuff feels like it's taken a serious step up

>>4469546
try finding it out

>>4469552
Finding what out?

>>4469549
They were doing a really good job with the lighting in their value sketch, I'm a little disappointed they didn't take that direction further.

>>4469558
>>4469552
Yeah I'm pretty sure it's just called paying the rent.

>>4469558
the rent price

>>4469536
most hobbyists here are tier A to S though ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>4469562
[citation needed]

>>4469548
Yes Anon. I am fully aware that criticism is helpful to the artists, that's why I am so disappointed by artists that close comments or even advocate not giving any crits.

>>4469573
i close comments because i know my stuff is shit and i know what i need to work on and i dont want crits stressing me out.

sometimes i wish there was an option to make your profile private.

>>4469549
It's almost like they started working harder after a tier list...

>>4469574
Just say that in the description. I'm sure that all artists good enough to give you a crit will understand that.

>>4469573
I don't know if I'd say "disappointed", but I am rather saddened when people opt for closing comments. I get it if you might feel somewhat self conscious about the work. But I believe it'd rather be beneficial to get some words from other dads rather than closing up and retreating.

Pic unrelated. I'm just happy with Valley's recent gains.
Keep going lad.

>>4469574
>>4469577
And by closing comments you close yourself for all forms of encouragement as well.

>>4469574
What would be the reason for posting in the first place if you'd seek to make your work private? Wouldn't it just be simpler to work on a private sketchbook for a while to de-stress and regain some confidence?
I don't think you should mind crits much if you're already set, and know what you have to be working on. Crits are not mandatory changes from god to implement in your drawing.

>>4469580
>What would be the reason for posting in the first place if you'd seek to make your work private?
Habit tracking, probably.

>>4469579
i dont want your encouragement.
>>4469581
this. i use dad explicitly for habit tracking. if i want a crit, i will post in the discord.asking for one.

>>4469578
valleys come a long way
his self portrait impressed me, considering
that little raccoon

>>4469585
Valley is really cool, he seems nice. I like his skeleton OC.

>>4469584
>i dont want your encouragement.
Why?
Clearly you are deeply affected by my words if you're so scared of my critique.

>>4469581
Yeah, there are a lot of pieces in my gallery I would rather not show, because they ar bad/unfinished but posted anyways just because I wanted to keep track of my daily art. I think some people miss the "not a gallery" aspect of dad, sometimes people have to post work with blatant mistakes because they don't have time to fix them, that's just the nature of trying to draw every day if you aren't a neet.

>>4469588
>Clearly you are deeply affected by my words if you're so scared of my critique.
To clarify: I'm saying that if you care about comments enough to be stressed about them, then you also care about encouragement enough for it to be effective and to help you.

>>4469585
this, valley has the strongest gains out of all /beg/ daddies.

>>4469382
>as the constant need to meet challenge deadlines and work on subjects I'm not 100% in love with has worn me down a bit.
same
challenges are all voluntary but I want to do them all and not miss out the fun

>>4469579
The risk of a stray comment ruining your already fragile drive to draw is too great compared to any benefit encouragement may give.

>>4469606
Which dad drops drive killing comments?

>>4469606
*posts a hurtful comment behind you*

>>4469606
I don't think that's true - the risk is really low since nobody is anonymous there.

>>4469608
Coin most likely.

dropping crit comments on DAD is great, if you don't agree with the comment you have the option to go to their profile, look at their submissions, have a laugh and then continue on your day. You guys need to be able to discern whether the crit has any real weight instead of lapping up everything into your mouth. Also, grow a fucking backbone

>>4469608
can't wait to....

>>4469620
This. The usual intentional crabby and low effort posting /ic/ suffers from is quite annoying but I’d rather someone give it straight and simple to me then being treated like a special EDs kid like what happened to that zombie bunny guy.

>>4469630
>that zombie bunny guy
what's this?

>>4469635
The one that started it all.

Never posted in one of these threads before. Didn't see anywhere else to post this.

>>4469644
Really cool work anon, is this trad?

>>4469641
Tell us baby dads please. Bedtime story!

*soft whisper* good morning

>>4469644
This thread is about the website in the OP. If this is yours you probably want to post it in the drawthread, >>4449254

>>4469641
???

Hey bro, nice bait. Try not to make it so obvious in your profile header next time.

>>4469630
while I'm still here lets throw tierlists into the mix and how they demotivate people.

All lists are subjective and filled with the creators bias. The most recent list for example was clearly made by a painterfag as they blatantly preferred rendering/color over drawing/appeal. What's more is that criteria they created and how it felt like it didn't apply as strongly to some users. The lists in the past always judged Finlay lower than he deserved because composition flew over the listmakers head. I'm not against lists or critiques, I'm only advocating that you do your due diligence and not take everything as objective fact. The idea should be to become so proficient that you no longer get surface level crits and that listmakers have no other choice but to rank you high.

>>4469647

Yeah. Gouache. Thanks!

>>4469651

Oh, I see. Thanks.

>>4469661
Who are you talking to?

>>4469666

Some rando trying to bait me.

>>4469641
Yes story time

bros I'm so bored

>>4469684

Wanna go on a date with me?

>>4469685
ew no

>>4469687

Okay :(

>>4469559
I will go back to that, just had to fix up the sketch.

>>4469641
Story time?

>>4469662
who did they overrate then
give names

are crits really that demotivating. All I got are meme comments and they sustain me

I want to breed ____.

>>4469695
rabbits

>>4469695
tiny centipedes

>>4469695

Kringle

>>4469692
Figure it out on your own

>>4469695
s-tier daddies

>>4469704
bullshit, if you want me to believe that tierlist is wrong
make a better one, show us what you think

>>4469695
Kokkoro chan

>>4469707
The tierlist isn't wrong as it represents what the listmaker themselves value in art but it's up to each individual if they want to deem it perfect (it isn't)

>>4469714
Fine, I genuinely want to see your tierlist and what you value.

>>4469662
I was placed in the lowest tier, and honestly it boosted my motivation a lot, especially since I was A-tier some time back.

I honestly don't mind the tier-lists, different people have different strokes. I'm happy to take a honest review of my stuff if it means that I can learn from it and find out how I can make my work just a bit more appealing.

>>4469662
I kinda wish I was placed lower or in the middle. Makes me blend in without attracting too much attention on my progress. Getting placed higher means more eyes and higher expectations placed on you.

>>4469716
What do you think caused the drop in ranking? Did you start posting more unfinished studies?

>>4469695
Maze

Tierlist dropping when?

>>4469758
Sure hold on...

>>4469731

Started to post things that I'm not simply yet good at, it kind of messed me up when I got highish tier ratings as I have only been doing art for a year or so total and I kept being compelled to do the same thing all over again so I could keep up my hacky appearance.

>>4469761
Which dad are you?

>>4469715
After the end of this season

>>4469763
just a daddy among daddies

>>4469758
We need a tierlist where we submit our best work.

>>4469759
40% complete

>>4469787
O god

>>4469695
My squishy wife

Tier list challenge:

You have 14 days to make three high quality pieces, based on which you will be rated by the jury and will be placed on an official tier list.

>>4469802
Unironically this

>>4469802
Please make this.

>>4469802
Basically daib but with three time the workload and half the time. I like it

comfort zone: the challenge

>>4469805
>>4469804

I'm too socially challenged to ask obvious s-tier daddies to be the judges.

>>4469759
>>4469787
Remember to post your work if you make a tierlist

>>4469813
Maybe say in the challenge that the tier list ranking will be done by anons on the board? Or "if you participate I encourage you to create a tierlist as well"

>>4469821
Ahh, my level is too low for making one.

Somebody take this and fly with it. Just make sure the badge says something in lines of "This artist knows its place".

Daddies I really need to be bred, what do I do?

>>4469826
What level does one need to make badges?
Kek this is almost like a portfolio review challenge. 24 complete pieces in 1 year should be a prestige 5

>>4469827
Take part in the tier list challenge so we know if we should breed with you or not.

>>4469827
Open bob show vagene

>>4469802
Tierlist based on three challenges with prompts spread over three weekends. Each prompt will be revealed by the challenge creator via a submission to DAD before the start of a weekend to dissuade working ahead. I dont want to lose to some faggots comfort zone, I'm here to win.

>>4469835
I don't know who you are but I love you.

>>4469826
>"This artist knows its place".

What we need is a topic hell.

WHY CANT PEOPLE LEAVE ME ALONE?! How is this any different from when I was going out all the time and you couldn't talk to me all day, and now that I'm home you want to talk to me all day and BOTHER ME ALL DAY IM AT THE END OF MY ROPE AGHHHHH just shut up just shut up just leave me alone. I can't even draw right now I'm still fussed about it. A locked door is meaningless to them. It takes actual effort to open the door. "Why are you always so cranky" HOW ABOUT YOU STOP FUCKING BOTHERING ME ALL THE TIME AND WE MIGHT ACTUALLY HAVE A PLEASANT TIME TOGETHER!

>>4469841
You mean dad forums?

>>4469835
banana/nicnac you know what to do, let's get this tournament arc rolling

>see people walking down the street with scarves around their faces
are scarves any good, dad?

TOURNAMENT ARC!

>>4469835
Yeah, that's a good idea.

Someone just fucking do it, it's time to make a tier list to rule them all.

>>4469857
>calling it a tournament arc
Things just got very based very fast.

>>4469862
It's better than nothing. I heard cloth is about 50% as effective as a mask.

>>4469606
stop being so fucking weak

>>4469862
Yeah, I heard some news outlet said for people to at least use scarves if they don’t have masks.
I really hope this finally gets non-Asians to just wear masks anytime they’re sick.
I used to have to take public transit daily and kept getting sick constantly until I started carrying around hand sanitizer, making sure I washed my hands as soon as I got off the train. I stopped getting sick immediately. Shit is disgusting.

>>4469935
I am building up my confidence again by avoiding deleterious comments like yours.

>>4469862
5 ply of cloth and you'll be fine

>>4469845
What the fuck are you on, schizo?

>>4469845
I thought you were posting the lyrics of some obscure Linkin Park song the first time I read this.

>>4469978
>>4469984
quarantine making anons stir crazy

>>4469987
I NEED TO COOM
COOOOOM

>>4469978
Ironically I'm actually withdrawing AND PEOPLE NEED TO RESPECT THAT INSTEAD OF BOTHERING ME ALL DAY IM DOING A GOOD THING

>>4470000
wasted quads s m h

>>4470005
Yeah...

can I register today

>>4470020
let's register together!!

Which DAD will make the DAD AT ITS BEST 2.0 on fucking steroids edition challenge?
THREE pieces

>>4470026
Working on Tier challenge right now. Give me 10 minutes.

*wheezes* Please... no more tier lists... *vomits blood*

>>4470046
HEH...

Can someone make a list of all the closed comments users so we can critic them ITT

>>4470046
This time you can at least prove your best

>>4470025
okay!

I need a list of all me posters so I can single them out every time.

>>4470049
Devilish

>>4470049
>implying that's not what they wanted

>>4470054
I'm not the only me poster. But yeah, me.

>>4470049
madlad

>tfw my rival this week drew for pathetic 4 hours while I drew for over 14
Heh. At this rate getting higher than him on the tier list will be easy, even with my autism :^)

>>4470049
Off the top of my head I think of Echo, but hes a pretty solid artist and I just let him do his own thing. Why does it bother you so much?

>>4470026
What if you want to be tiered by an older work/something you submitted before the challenge was made

>>4470065
I feel this way about my past works, but maybe this is an opportunity to push yourself to exceed your best

>>4470065
That's no good, make a new piece of work, unless you've stagnated it should be possible to make a better piece.

https://dad.gallery/challenges/181

Tier Tourney for April. Will drop more details soon

>>4470072
>April
No rest for the wicked

>>4470072
end date has to be may 4 if you want the last submission day to be may 3

>>4470078
Thank you for the heads up, made the quick fix.

>>4470072
Should be prestige 4 or 5 if you want artists drawing their best work 3 times.

>>4470072
it's happening
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZgLXq0hIVs

I’m going to make another challenge where you just make your best work for your own sake.

some more challenge ideas
>pretty girl 3/4th headshot with a blank expression challenge
>eye floating in empty space challenge
>hands behind the back and feet obscured by scenery challenge
>draw your favorite muslim prophet challenge

>>4470101

Why do I have a feeling you're lowkey taking a piss?

>>4470101
>>eye floating in empty space challenge
I don't remember this cliche, do people do this a lot?

>>4470109
it's pretty common in instagram and leddit art boards

>>4470072
>2 days for a finished illustration
That's intense, but I like it.
Are NSFW pieces allowed?
And I hope there will be at least one still life - drawing from observation is completely different from drawing from imagination and both should be considered for a good tier rating.

How bad is it to clean phone with hand sanitizer.
All disinfecting wipes and isopropyl alcohol is sold out fucking everywhere.
I thought I lucked out the other day finding some random Lysol cleaner at my local grocery the other day, brought it home and it smelled like rotten milk.

>>4470122
do you have any mild glass/surface cleaner. Bleach and lysol are too harsh when used on gadgets

>>4470128
I do but does that shit clean off viruses?
I’m just trying to sanitize my phone every time before I leave work, don’t care that much if I fuck up my phone as long as I can sleep tight knowing I sanitized it somewhat.

>>4470122
Do you not have dish soup? Or even soft soap?

>>4470072
>inb4 almost nobody joins it
>inb4 out of those people almost nobody finishes it thus making the whole tierlist invalid

>>4470159
any mild cleaner is fine

>>4470164
i'll join when my rival joins

>>4470164
I don't need another tierlist saying I'm tier 1 so I'm not gonna bother

>>4470172
Based S Tier

>>4470164
This, I can see maybe making this pre-the last tier list but if they are judging the entries off the same criteria as the last one, shit isn’t going to change. Why bother. My guess is a few higher tiers do it because they have nothing to lose and maybe a few lower to try to prove themselves but that’s it.

I wanna host a dad contest now.

No one can outdo the Tier List except that tier list creator again.

>>4470195
So you would suggest cancelling and having it several months down the line?

>>4470195
What do you mean?

What exactly would an anti-tier list challenge look like

>>4470203
Post your 10 second drawings.

51ip best tierlist maker

>>4470202
If an A tier puts in their best, maybe their work will be A or S, if a D tier tries their best, they’re still going to be D or C, or even F in comparison to the A tier dad. So what’s the point?
>>4470200
I’m not saying you should but it would make more sense to me.

>>4470200
yes, challenge burnout is real

>>4470209
Noo, what if the D tier does their best and they're actually evaluated at B tier, and the A tier, next to the D's at their best, have actually slipped and look bad since the last evaluation?

>>4470209
the point is to have fun with the prompts while seeing where other people tier, if you're a C tier just relax and do your best, isn't it interesting seeing what others come out swinging with when a little pride is on the line? rather than being concerned with your own standing, just enjoy the show

>>4470203
Who can make the objectively worst looking art, and we post it to a bad art or /beg/ thread without telling them who drew it.

>>4470222
Kek, this would be fun.

>>4470222
devilish

>>4470222
>has to be bad
>still have to spend at least 2 hours on it
Down the line I’d like to make a challenge like this. Would have been a good April fools challenge.

>>4470222
At last, a challenge made just for ME!

oc swap challenge but you have to draw your oc being fucked by who posted just before

>>4470198
Tier list of tier lists when?

>>4470084
Ping Pong chad detected

>middle of the coomer challenge
>pornhub premium is free
>fakku is free
Yessss, cum to me my coomers

When will coin lewd the imp

>>4470072
Lets see if I got this right, you're supposed to make your piece in 48 hours (Saturday and Sunday) and then have 5 days "rest" until the next one?

>>4470254
too young

>>4470250
Seriously finally get to see this 1080p hd, it was suffering with 720p

>>4470072
I laughed just by reading the new challenge title
here we go again

>>4470247
>>4470084
Fellow Ping Pongs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62qWI7CpIds

>>4470239
I like this idea too

>>4470250
>fakku

I haven’t used this site since the 9th grade.

wow you can really see which dads are just drawing naked people and which ones are really horny

>>4469731
>What do you think caused the drop in ranking?
this is probably a sign that the tier lists are garbage lol. how can someone go from A to D

if we had a dad awards show, what would the categories be?

>>4470303
There was that template someone made in January that only like one person filled out

>>4470286
I wanted to rate dads on horny level but I'll wait until the challenge is done
please remind me to make one in a week

>>4470286
Names?

I'm not even memeing, I just think I could learn something from this comparison.

>>4470286
>>4470317
How do I up my power levels lewd dads?

>>4470286
pawn genzai and maw must have been saving up just for this challenge

>>4470317
that's a good idea

>>4470323
as an example, paganini is drawing naked people, but j is horny horny

>>4470286
I'm not a prude...I-I just think erotic and suggestive art is more appealing than outright sex.

>>4470342
When isn’t j horny

>>4470344
thats ok I just find it cool to see some daddies reveal how horny theyve secretly been all along

>>4470345
When he looks at your coom challenge entries.

>>4470354

>prudes thinking a naked person is coomer worthy
Get the fuck out.

What's the prize for winning the tournament?

Fuckin spiders that’s the 2nd one I killed in less than 24 hours.

>>4470395
You get to declare yourself #1 until the next time. At least that is if the host Cell doesn't go crazy and suddenly want to destroy the Earth.

>>4470362
add some fur and a tail, and now you're good

>>4470362
>he doesn't merely exert from the slight appearance of nudity
Weak and pathetic.

>>4470410
Expert coomers can coom from the sight of exposed wrists and ankles. The collar bone, nape of the neck and bare shoulders are for professionals only.

>>4470303
>biggest gains
>least gains
>longest streak (of that year)
>most eliminated (keep in mind you'd have to start and stop again)
>best / S tier
>worst
>most shitposts
>most time spent
>least time spent
>friendliest
>rudest
>most mentioned
>most commented
>drew the most humans
>drew the least amount of completed art

>>4470303
Furry, anime and popularity.

>>4470362
Pic related was quite lewd in the year 1555. It's not me that's wrong it's Belle Delphine!

>>4470443
>me on the left

>>4470443
>me in the back

>>4470443
me on the branch

>>4470443
>me pretending to be a statue

>>4470443
Nigga it's fucking 2020 tho.

>>4470429
we should vote for nominees

>>4470479

It should be in the form of a video, maybe lascast.

>>4470479
Boy, I can't wait.
To be skipped.

>>4470486
that's still not going is it

>>4470479
>>4470486
>>4470490
>the award can be a silver daddy

>>4470502
Is that nicnac?

>>4470502
puke worthy
don't ever post this again

>>4470502
where did you get a pic of my dad from

>>4470515
W-wait that's my dad.

>>4470515
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqcLjcSloXs

>>4470254
never she's a child and I'm not good enough to draw lewds

>>4470551
Summoning lilramune you know what you must do!

>past two days i sit down to draw my heart starts beating really fast and i get all twitchy
either drawing is killing me or its just my anxiety acting up again

You ever have a situation where someone who isn't you, posts something in the thread that seems too obviously like it would be from you.
But it would be too autistic to say anything, so you just have to wallow in paranoia for a little while.

>>4470604
Maybe a little, then I remember we’re all anon so even if they think it’s you, they’ll never know for sure.

>>4470604

>>4470551
Coin pls, I need lewds in your style or I will surely perish.

>>4470604
Sad!

>>4470604
Yes multiple times. I think we've all impersonated each other at times, like simping for kazook. It's fun.

>>4470604
Wait a minute...
B-banana? Has he risen?

>>4470072
I'm really happy for this challenge - it shows nicely who's serious about making it and who's a filthy casual.

Discord for serious dads only when?

>>4470723
There is one you're just not invited.

>>4470072
I'm gonna wait and see if dad crushes and dad rivals join too.

>>4470669
coin wtf are you just going to let this man die?

>>4470732
Pics or didn't happen.

>>4470749
I can't reveal it, you have to know someone to get in.

>>4470755
Interesting....

>>4470755
Cool story, bro.

>>4469787
Did he do it?

>>4470759
We don't invite sour grapes like you. You'll get an invite if we see improvement.
...no I'm just kidding there's no server but what an asshole thing to do to put down dads for not joining a challenge.

>>4469732
what
what did i do

>>4470777
getting blessed trips

>>4470777
Let me breed you you stupid dog

Who's your rival daddy? Everyone that posted yesterday was included, ctrl+f to find them and vote for them
https://www.strawpoll.me/19703720
https://www.strawpoll.me/19703731
https://www.strawpoll.me/19703742
https://www.strawpoll.me/19703748

>>4470789
can i finish drawing first?

>>4470790
I don't desire to beat him because I don't consider him my equal.
My other dad rival is pretty good though I'm not sure if I can catch up.

Aw furart, i wanted to read your comment :(

>>4470790
I don't really have one

>>4470795
Yes of course, what a good doggo.

>>4470818
thank you anon
ill use your adoration as strength to draw

>>4470790
Skipped a line that had lamprey, crud and banana sorry https://www.strawpoll.me/19703824

>>4470808
It's nothing official, you can always vote for who you think has the closest level to you or your dad crush

>>4470790
>not on the list

>>4470775
>an asshole thing to do to put down dads for not joining a challenge
It's not about joining a challenge.
It's about different goals.
One group, much bigger, is hobbyists - they put in only minimal required time out of laziness and do shit like bashing people for writing critiques (even constructive ones). Just read the thread to see them.
The other group is more serious artists - they consistently put in at least 2h/day, they look for ways to improve, they choose and pick challenges instead of joining all of them, they're friendly rivals and they have a goal of becoming a professional. They have a different mindset.

What I've noticed is that hobbyists will also make some absurd excuses (like >>4470195) from joining that challenge, while more serious artists will generally join.

I mentioned a separate discord because I'm tired of "no, don't post a crit, this is my safe space" crowd. I'm not putting down anyone; I just want to socialize with people who have similar goals.

>>4470808

>>4470824
So...so wholesome!

>>4470832
>muh safe space
Oh, so you'd rather make a super secret special discord so you don't have to hear other people's opposing opinions and varying goals? Totally not the same shit.
How about weening yourself off your mom's tits and learn to get along with the other children in this community.

>>4470833
Heh... vaguely relatable

>>4470832
Eww.... so you're THAT guy.
I actually did joke around based off my other server but it's more of a group chat. We stream often in the chat and post WIPs at all hours of the day and most of us are seeking to be professionals / hired in art. But they're not daddies and they're not assholes.

>I'm someone's rival
is this what making it feels like

>>4470845
No the asshole guy is NOT about helping other people improve. He hates that he can't share his aggressive "critiques" nobody asked for. He feels oppressed when he can't share his arrogant views. I'll betcha he was the 1hr / illustration guy.

I wonder if anyone sees me as a rival

Who's voting for kazook?

I can't tell if the people arguing against critiques genuinely care about someone's feelings or insidiously preventing their growth haha wat

>>4470867
Maybe. I follow several dads.

>>4470872
The people arguing against feelings only care about their own feelings. They don't care if someone else gets dabbed on. Hell, they probably enjoy seeing someone being ripped apart. But not the other way around.
Its only funny when it happens to someone else.

>>4470869
I intend on crushing some A- tier dads with my gains B tier gains

>>4470872
I can't believe some people have the myopic world view that all critiques are good and anyone who disagrees are ngmi. We've discussed many times why sometimes critiques are bad, especially in this case where asshole sounds like a whiny negative brat. I do genuinely care about the person's growth, knowing the wrong influences can stunt them. There is a balanced view and I hope you can respect that.

>>4470845
>Oh, so you'd rather make a super secret special discord so you don't have to hear other people's opposing opinions and varying goals? Totally not the same shit.
Firstly I never mentioned making it secret.
And secondly I don't think you thought this through: it just doesn't make sense to gather together people who have nothing in common. That's why we have porn thread, alternative style thread, beg thread and trad thread instead of only draw thread. That's why we have different boards on 4chan, like /fit/ and /lit/, instead of just a single huge board. Dividing groups based on goals is just common sense.

>>4470853
>Eww.... so you're THAT guy.
What do you mean? I don't see why would you consider my post as assholeish.

>>4470861
>>4470878
Nice projecting :^)

>>4470887
Okay at least you're not being an asshole on purpose. I agree to an extent, about finding similar interests and wanting to grow. I disagree because you're not seeing some of the personality flaws that make you unpleasant and why people don't want critiques from you. You sound young, like in your teens maybe, so maybe when you grow older you'll have more experience and empathy. And then maybe, at that time, the right people and groups will come along.

>>4470894
...you disagree not because of what I said, but because of how I said it?
OK then.

>>4470832
Tsflipp, who hurt you?

>>4470832
Honestly, if you're not taking the piss could you post your work? Most of the better dads I know are hobbyists, I'm curipus what the work of someone who wants to make it in the industy looks like

>>4470887
The point of dad is just drawing everyday.
It's a group of artists who just are trying to draw everyday, why are you trying to divide the community?
You're just an asshat trying to force a hierarchy with you on top.
If you really want to make a community that focuses just on people with lofty goals then make one, don't try to make DAD into whatever YOU want it to be.

>>4470790
>skipped

oh god

>>4470832
you're just salty because some hobbyists are better than you

Why the fuck join a community full of hobbyists if you don't want to be associated with them?

>>4470920
The thing with you /dad/fags is you sniff your own farts too much. Step outside this general for a bit and look at artists elsewhere, who also are hobbyist, and they walk miles around the majority of you.

>>4470894
No, I was being sarcastic in >>4470899, but I changed my mind.
Sorry. And thank you, Anon. It's clear that you're not the only one focused more on my tone, than on what I'm actually saying. I should work on fixing that issue - it would make finding clients harder. Thankfully there's plenty of books on the subject.

>>4470908
>could you post your work?
I don't think it's a good idea to reveal myself. I wouldn't get any more honest crits, I would be placed in the tierlist differently and so on.

>>4470935
>would make finding clients harder. Thankfully there's plenty of books on the subject.
Holy shit please kill yourself, I don't think there's any book who can fix your egocentric autism.

>>4470935
why do you care about being tiered or critted by a bunch of hobbyists and shitters. Maybe you should make a separate discord for Serious dads only, be sure to put a link to it in your next submission!

Who have you seen making big jumps in their art gains lately daddies? For me I notice rorg, lonku, and pera