/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>Vector
>>>/gd/

>>4447695

But I want to draw an online comic.

>>4447684
Affinity Designer is the one I ended up liking the most, but if it doesn't work well for your purposes then you might check out Adobe Illustrator or Gravit Designer.

CSP has vector tools. Enjoy.

>>4447829
The video explains the problems I've had with Affinity Designer. Am I doing something wrong?

>>4447877
>CSP has vector tools. Enjoy.

Acronym Definition
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CSP Corrugated Steel Pipe
CSP Content(s) Service Provider
CSP Conservation Security Program
CSP Concentrating Solar Power
CSP Constraint-Satisfaction Problem
CSP Centre for Suicide Prevention (Canada)
CSP Content Security Policy (cybersecurity)
CSP Cryptographic Service Provider
CSP Cloud Service Provider (computing)
CSP Certified Safety Professional (BCSP)
CSP Chartered Society of Physiotherapy (UK)
CSP Chip Scale Package
CSP Converged Services Platform
CSP Communicating Sequential Processes
CSP Certified Speaking Professional (National Speaker's Association)
CSP Colorado State Patrol
CSP Commonwealth Supported Place (Australian program for tertiary education)
CSP Center for the Study of the Presidency (New York City, NY)
CSP Circumsporozoite Protein (biological chemistry)

Um, thanks?

>>4447948
>Um, thanks

Your welcome.

Seriously, thou are retarded or just trolling? I mean I assumed you were at least capable of understanding the acronym with context.

I'm obviously recommending the painting program, not a cloud service...

>>4447948
clip studio pro
/ic/ thinks it's as popular as photoshop, but irl nobody uses it outside japan

>>4447975
As if google "CSP drawing program" was har hard.

He has no excuse for being that stupid.

>>4447975
As if googling "CSP drawing program" was that hard.

He has no excuse for being that stupid.

>>4448014
(you)

>>4448014
(You)

>>4448111
>Complainst about an obvious acronym he can google
>Puts a cryptic "you".

Hypocritical much?

>>4447684
can you really draw with flash?
i've always had the idea that vector is for mechanical, minimalistic, geometrical stuff, while raster is for creative drawing/painting where line style counts

>>4448578
>vector is for mechanical, minimalistic, geometrical stuff,

Flash seems to be unique in how the tools work. It's vector, but you don't need to get hung up on how the vectors work. You can just click on the lines and move them around as you need them.

It's a bit like molding clay. Regrettably, there is nothing else like it.

>>4447684
Pretty sure Flash, aka Adobe Animate, competitor wouldn't be Illustrator, but Toon Boom or TV Paint
Never tried them. Maybe in the animation thread?

>>4449355

I'm not really interested in animation. I just want some way to keep the tools I've paid for repeatedly and used for years. :(

Adobe Animate is literally Flash with a different name. All the drawing tools are the same.

>I used to use Flash, but Adobe doesn't sell it anymore.

Doesn't stop you from using it

>>4451531
>Doesn't stop you from using it

No. Apple does. 32 bit apps won't run on the current OS, and I've been wanting to dump Adobe as well anyway.

I might try using parallels or something.

>>4451568
>32 bit apps won't run on the current OS

Is this a MacToddler problem? Because 32 bit works fine on 64-bit Windows

>>4451596

Then why are there 32 and 64 bit versions of the OS?

>>4451596
> Thinks using Windows makes him an “adult”.

>>4447684
just pirate adobe animate
i have no idea of vector, but there's no way some other software doesn't have drawing tools similar to 1993's smartsketch ones

>>4451672

Well I do want to support independent developers. In a weird way, piracy keeps software monopolies in power by making it difficult for competitors to make money. Bill Gates openly said that he would rather China pirate windows than use Linux.

>>4447684
I used to use Inkscape. It's free too. But that was nearly 10 years ago.

>>4447684
good program?
illustrator, corel draw, inkscape, open toonz, synfig, xara3d?

>>4452311
>>4451975

Don't forget to explain the acronyms because the op retard to think with context so he will think you are recommending a hospital.

>>4452311
>4452925
Don't forget to explain those are art programs because the op is retarded so he will think you are recommending a hospital because he can't comprehend context.

>>4447684
Isnt Blender's Grease Pencil totally vecor-based? It seems pretty good for animation and just drawing in general. Also Opentoonz or Inkscape.

>>4447684
if you've got bread to spend you can always just do adobe illustrator.

Inkscape

>>4451656
Because you can't run a 64 bit OS on 32 bit CPUs, which are still used in office environment or low end laptops.

>>4453148
>if you've got bread to spend you can always just do adobe illustrator.

I specifically don't want to give money to Adobe because I find their business practices unethical. And I did try Illustrator at a friend's house - it does not allow editing lines the way I show it in the video. Apple produced great products when they were "beleaguered", but now that they are ultra rich, they are totally taking advantage of their users, much like Microsoft used to. Isn't capitalism great?

>>4453293
>Because you can't run a 64 bit OS on 32 bit CPUs,

So then Macs were always 64 bit? Because there was never a "32 bit" version of any MacOS. I know the PPC G5 was 64 bit, but I thought the other PowerPC chips were 32 bit.

>>4447684
Why is /ic/ so fucking useless?
OP asked a very concrete question about a particular tool, and after 31 posts it ain't even one (1) concrete answer
More aggravating yet, half retards didn't even read the question and just shitposted: "X app has vector tools lmao"

>>4453650

No need to be angry. It's possible that there just is no answer. Or maybe the person who knows it hasn't come along yet.

>>4453650
>>"What does CSP MEAN"

Op is retarded.

>>4454003
still butthurt about that?
did you even checked if clipstudio vector tools worked as op video clearly explains?

>>4453650
the most popular vector apps (paid and free) have been listed.
if op is not satisfied then he is free to code his own.
as for you, kys.

>>4454167
the most popular vector apps (paid and free) are listed in fucking google, retard
OP asked a concrete question, not a 2 second search result

>>4454212
kill yourself faggot

>>4454267
answer OP's question, illiterate retard

>>4447948
you might have autism if you didn't think to just google "csp vector".
overthinking is a sign of autism but it's okay I have autism too we all do

>>4454340
how much longer are you gonna cry about that? just let it go

>>4454349
sorry I have autism

>>4454354
it shows

>>4447877
You can't export vectors in CSP

>>4451656
There aren't. MacOS supported older 32-bit code for compatibility, and then ended that two years ago, because if devs can't update their code by that time, fuck 'em. Apple hasn't sold a 32 bit processor since the PowerPC. MacOS has been 64 bit since 2011. This is a decade old topic, and only matters to someone running a decade or older mac, and if you're doing that, get a job already.

>>4454333
he's got plenty of answers already.

put some effort in and actually try some of the software posted, or adapt to a new workflow.

but for an online comic why bother. i bet it's shit anyway.

>>4453405
G5 was not 64 bit, like modern processors are. It's a completely different architecture that Apple abandoned because IBM couldn't scale it they way they claimed they'd be able to. The OS that ran on the G5 was 32 bit, as well. The MacOS didn't support the Intel x64 architecture until MacOSX Lion, in 2011.

I don't think many (any) of you really understand what you're talking about here.

>>4454380
>put some effort
ironic: the whole point is that this worthless board didn't do that
none of the people that answered understood what the question was

>>4454380
>put some effort in and actually try some of the software posted,

I made the video in the first post. What do you do?

>>4454498
so you tried one app.
try the rest macfag. you sound like a pretentious faggot btw. reddit might be better for you.
>>4452941
>>4452311
>>4451984
here, more,
https://www.g2.com/categories/vector-graphics

if nobody has had your issues what the fuck do you expect? you can't find what you want? tough luck buddy, learn a new workflow or learn to code and make your own app.

also inkscape can do the fill and delete thing, but not the intersect.

>>4454587
>https://www.g2.com/categories/vector-graphics
really? that's your contribution? after that sermon about effort?
kinda dissappointed, even coming from this crab-infested shithole

>>4454614

Inkscape was weirdly slow on my machine. Illustrator doesn't seem to do anything I need that Affinity design doesn't do as well. Neither did what I am looking for.

You can't just draw in those programs - everything is like building a house.

>>4454628
I'm interested in your findings, please update us if you ever find something of value
otherwise, i might end up testing adobe animate

>>4455847

Thanks. Check out the comments on the YouTube video then, as this thread will be long gone by then.

>>4456870

Okay, I'm interested. What program is this?

>>4447732
why vector?

>>4458038
>why vector?

Because I do lots of tweaks and corrections in my drawings, and if you do that in bitmap, everything goes out of focus. Also I can't get the clean smooth lines that I love in bitmap - everything comes out looking jittery.

>>4457955
>>4454587

>>4458108
Yikes why do you keep reposting that shitty webcomic wich is just a poorly hidden trans fetish

Just use pirated flash dummy

>>4458549
>why do you keep reposting that webcomic

Because I wish I could draw like that. Why else?

>>4458827
Now that is a lowbar to reach

>>4458884

Go away troll, the adults are talking.

>>4447732
>>4458108
if you're going for that clean vector inking, it seems clip studio paint would be the thing to use
i've seen tutorials for adobe illustrator, but, as you said, they just auto trace raster stuff
>>4457955 that's clip studio, aka manga studio

>>4459802
It's not really vectors as such in CSP, you can't export them to other vector applications. But if OP just wants editable lines within one application it does the job.

>>4458108
Clip studio paint has some interesting vector tools.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4UopyLEIYU

>>4460585
>Clip studio paint

Looks nice, thank you! I'm downloading it now. :)

>>4447684
OP I use Affinity Designer and I'm happy with it. It lets you combine vector and raster art. The interface is much better compared to Adobe Illustrator, and you only pay for it once (unlike for Adobe). Flash or CC Animate is not an illustration tool, it's for animation. The tools for drawing and editing shapes are very limited.

Pic related

>>4461847

>>4461847
>The tools for drawing and editing shapes are very limited.

Affinity Designer has a lot of effects and things that I like. But the fundamentals of how you draw are superior in Flash. Designer often needs dozens of layers to do things that work fine in one layer in Flash.

>>4460585
>Clip studio paint

So my first impressions: It seems quite a bit slower then Affinity Designer. It's complex, and hard to tell which tools are for bitmap and which are for vectors. I'll be working with the tutorial for a while, it seems.

>>4463119
The next update for clip studio will come in about a week and it will have bezier handles for vector lines.

>>4463119
The drawing tools aren't divided into strict categories of bitmap/vector, instead you'll want to use vector layers for them.