/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>4424889
That nigger has been drawing for years and he still can't draw his way out of a cereal box LMAO

>Be me
> retarded
>obsessed at skinny girl and collect fuckton of reference and draw them for 10 month
> still looks like shit

end me

>>4424889
When I place eyes onto my faces they tend to be flat, is that a matter of perspective problems? When I begin with they eyes then add the other features I tend to jot have this issue. Am I just retarded?

>>4424899
No dude you are no right. Your work looks great but a little bit messy.

>>4424932
I also like drawing eyes first.
Just do whatever works for you.

i need to practice urban perspective for when im making my comic, but i also need to practice interiors an more natural backgrounds, where do i find those?

I'm doing a shit ton of gesture drawings at the moment to improve my figure drawings. These are the ones I felt came out decent. The reference photos are there as well for comparison. I really want to improve so please critique me with everything you have.

this album has the drawings https://jacesmithart2018.imgur.com/all/

>>4424889
Oh god, why did I think that was a black hand holding her head for a second, oh shit oh god this site fucked me up fuck I can't even talk to people with out "say jigger, say jigger "going through my head shit.

I try to be funny.

Trying at character design

Figure pracc

Figure pracc 2

Gestures pracc

Gestures pracc 2

Post essential youtube. I personally think Bobby Chiu is pretty great.

I don't get how to lineart. Every tutorial I find is basically "just do this lol" and they do a really pretty stroke while mine keeps looking like shit.

-Are you really supposed to do these with one stroke? I can't seem to be able to do this.
-How am I supposed to do line weight? Am I supposed to do a stroke and then fine tune my strokes by erasing it a bit?
-Is this harder or impossible to do with smaller tablets?

I just don't get it.

and yeah, I dont' get hands and feet either. fuck me

i called this '' El manifico de la fantastique''

>>4425013
nice one Asuka Anon

I think a big part of why my drawing always seemed to fall apart on me before was because I’d start into details before I even sketched out the scene. I’m trying to stop that habit.

>>4424899
go actually learn anatomy and figure drawing. it will carry over.

>>4425025
you're supposed to use construction. Make a rough under drawing and figure out your proportions and stuff, and make your lineart on a new layer on top of that. Line weight comes from pen pressure, just google line weight drills.
>Don't get hand and feet
go draw 100 of each. watch prokos vids on the construction of them

>>4425025
>I can't seem to be able to do this.
It's just practice.
You have to do one fast fluid motion. That's all it is. Making that fast motion go where you want it to is just practice.
>How am I supposed to do line weight
With pressure.
There's nothing wrong with going over parts of a line multiple times. If you're careful then it can still look clean.
>harder or impossible to do with smaller tablets
No.

>>4425059
>learn anatomy
>construction
>proko
We got the Zealot triumvariate right here.

Oh, so shading looks better when done in reds and oranges rather than grays. Good to know.

I don't understand hair at all and need to practice it further. I don't draw from the shoulder very often, and that's the only way to get nice flowing lines for hair, so I'll need to fix that habit first. I'm also still searching for a good anime style rendering tutorial/book, any help there would be welcome.

>>4425076
thats kinda neat, but you have to work on perspective big time, that book, her boobs and her legs dont make any sense at all, i kid you not they look like conpletely different drawings

>>4425076
You might want to look up how the deltoid attaches to the clavicle. Right now your clavicles don't look properly related to the shoulder.

>>4425076
your perspective is off anon, the way you draw her tits implies that the bottom part is touching the ground, yet the rest of her body (especially her arms) suggest otherwise

>>4425090
this

>>4425082
>>4425090
Added to the bucket list, thank you. I looked at a bunch of on_stomach references, but I couldn't grasp the perspective at all.

Is it a good idea to draw from a pose book until I get a better idea of perspective and gesture? I've recently started doing copies and they seem to help too, but I'm slow at copying.

k so here's an example. How am I supposed to do the lineart here with just one clean stroke and not chicken scratching? I either overshoot or the shape just ends up all wobbly.

Let me know if I'm being dumb, I hope I am cause that'll mean the solution is simple.

>>4425095
try to introduce perspective right away, it woill massively help you, its not even that hard, just put a horizon line, the vanishing point/s and make a grid with very light pressure to represent the floor, after that its all practice

>>4425107
be slower, but dont be less decisive, is gonna be hard, especially with curved lines, but in the end itll be worth it

>>4425034
thats very bad

I dont feel like practice would help me i need to find books or something because i keep doing the same boring girls

>>4425107
I'd probably do the heel in at least two strokes but I'm also a /beg/. It's definitely possible for a good inker to do it in one.
You can lift your pen and then continue the same line and have it look clean, you just have to be careful.
You're way overthinking this. It's just practice. I promise. Don't be afraid to ctrl-z and redo the same line 20 times until you get it right.

>>4425117
it looks good, just dont be afraid of feeling bad because you got out of your confort zone

>>4425117
Do you ever daydream up pictures in your mind?
Draw those.

>>4425116
You just don't understand real art anon, i'm sorry but NGMI

Are there any glaring errors, here?

>>4425136
the ear is way too far back and i can tell that you dont understand forearm anatomy by the way tou shaded it, also the upper back looks fucky, i feel like it should be wider but that may be just me

>>4425136
The ear is too small, but the rest loooks really cool.

>>4425117
Well how about you try drawing other things? Make studies of fruit or something. It is actually kind of fun.

>>4424999
Added flat colors

>>4425076

More gesture today but I wasn't feeling it as much as yesterday, also value studies because I saw a video of Vilppu talking about values and that will help rendering my gestures later on

>>4425174

>>4425176
30 second gestures, the nose is fucking impossible in 30 seconds.

>>4425163
thats kinda cool, i like it, fix the chicken scratching and the proportions of the arm, theyre too short

>>4425174
30 second value studies. Only thing I could get in 30 seconds for the nose are the nostrils the nose is fucking hard to do a value study on I have no idea how it works.

>>4425165
>it's on panda too
Awesome, thank you.

>>4425183
>30 sec value studies
is that a thing? i always though that value is all about time intensive work

>>4425189
No idea, I'm self-taught so I'm making this shit up as I go along. But it's definitely helping me remember what I see, I actually finished some of these up when the image was already gone just from memory / feeling. I think it's kinda how ground to air gunners would train to spot aircrafts they were given 1 second to look at the photograph and then had to say if it was friendly or not. Values seem to stick around in the mind longer than other things.

>>4425189
Also forced you to decide what's important and what's not.

>>4425194
>>4425195
fair enough, might try it

>just got to the part in Fun With a Pencil where I am combining round objects with hard-edged ones

>>4425107
Overshooting isn't a problem, some artists even recommend it for making clean strokes. You're working digital, you can just erase the excess line.

>>4425230
is there a problem?

>>4425271
dont use lined paper

>>4425064
I get the proko one but the rest tell me that youre a "muh style"

Copied off Will Weston from the other thread. Thoughts?

How can i improve my accuracy when inking?

Some gestures

>>4425389
More

>>4425391

>>4425296
I'm definitely not a muh style.
I just think it's amusing that most posts on this board are the same few words repeated over and over again.

>>4425411
Niche boards like /ic/ has far smaller shitposting/buzzwords to sincere thought ratio than boards like /v/.

>>4425163
Did you drew it on ipad? If not, change your brush. It looks like crap.

where would the vanishing points in this pic be?

>>4425445
look at the clouds, it will give you a hint

>>4425445
Find where the eye level is, find what is parallel with each other and find the vp of those, find another objects that have parallel lines and find vp for those, so on and forth.

>>4425445
Vanishing points of what?
Each object hast it's own set of the points.

The classic book example with two houses conforming to one set of points only applies to parallel rectangles.
If they weren't parallel they would have a different set of points each.

>>4425457
No shot Sherlock, that pic doesn't have any straight or parallel lines and not a single proper circle.

When you need to draw that you draw it purely by the intuition previously obtained from long practice and a lot of boxes.

Best I got right now

>>4425487
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

Corona chan sketch. Might try to finish.

>>4425486
Break down the man's body parts in cubes, torso a cube, lets 2x2 cubes, etc, etc, find out that cubes by itself has parallel lines and if in perspective will take you on to a VP, find the VP for every cube, you'll get a lot of different VP because none of these cubes are parallel with each other but themselves.

>>4425513
legs* 2x2 cubes

When is it worth having two vanishing points?
I am doing a vista/bridge/city project right now and I want to know ehther there even is any point adding the second vanishing point so far off that its lines are like...5 degrees at max

>>4425506
boring and shoulders are too wide

Something I did an hour ago

>>4425506
don't try to finish its worthless. You have zero knowladge about fundies. Draw from life for a few months and then go read the sticky.

>>4425013
Horror chan, you need to study. i Bet you can see those fucked proportions and ugly face.

>>4425645
What proportions are fucked?

>>4425013
Yes, Asukaposter! You did it!
This looks actually good!

>>4425632
Unoriginal and it’s shit.

still trying to learn how to draw characters in 3d space

All tips and critiques are welcome because this shit is hard and im learning by myself lol

bought some brown/toned paper because peter han told me to in dynamic sketching. he used a pen, but what else do i do with it? the book says “for light and dark media”.

>>4425740
read framed perspective vol 2 if you need guidance. as for a critique, i can’t give one.

>>4425689

I think i'm gonna make it, in the last 2 days i have improving a lot

>>4425842
improved*

>>4425337
Keep doing line exercises, you can find that at draw a box or dynamic sketching, do that and do a lot more inking.

>>4425842
You aint making SHIT, BITCH

HER HEAD TOO SMALL FOR BODY

>>4425851
i need to make mistakes to improve, i will learn with this

>>4424889
hey bros, how do I shade faces?

>>4425900
>how do I shade faces
You may as well have asked "how do I draw?"

>>4425905
o-oh...

>>4424932
>>4425064
How can i not end up like this?
Will set a goal style, already wandered and wasted so many days (tried to apply loomis proportion at style that i like shit doesn't fucking work, it has completly different structure do not even think about it)

>>4425912
Just keep drawing. Take in information from all sources and try everything. Figure out what works and what doesn't. You'll get there eventually, as long as you're self-critical and making progress there's really no wrong path.

>>4425907
Ok, but actually the two answers are 1) copy lots of artists that you like and study how they shade the head, and 2) understand how the head works as a 3D object (anatomy) and understand how light interacts with 3D forms.

any good guide on how to draw asses like fat vs musclular, fat deposits and how it changes depending on weight shift and leg position

Trying to get used to krita and reconfigure my tablet. I know it's shitty but I'll take whatever critique you have

>>4425933
>futa
gmi

>>4424889
I don't want to draw this faggot little cup from keys to drawing 1e anymore AHHHHHHHHHHH. Once I finish this one I'll put them all together before I start the last one for the first chapter. I will btfo all other Keys to Drawing faggots.
I don't know how to shade, how do I shade?

this is it tired at being eternal /beg/ and wandering aimlessly
so i made blurry plan

>>4425982
>loli shota
sickening
i hope you nmi

need tips on getting better got any anon-kun

>>4425900
https://youtu.be/LrHfrncvODQ

i don’t think you’re ready for shading. draw lots of spheres and boxes, because shitty lines and form will hold you back the most.

>>4425117
This is the type of generic shit I would see on Instagram.

color study from photo

>>4426004
/ic/ is the new instagram. mark my word, it will get worse and worse

>>4425998
>>4426021
>>4426027
Unoriginal so it’s shit

>>4426027
I wasn't copying any works I know of, so it feels new to me.

>>4426047
>>4426030
Meant to reply to that, but it is about that one

>>4426081
0/10 for being generic, unoriginal, and boring.

Recently started this self portrait. It’s my first painted portrait. I like it so far, but I wish I didn’t use green for the shadows. I still need to do the background and my shirt

>>4426083
post a 10/10 artwork that you made, just asking for curiosity

Reposting in this thread but can someone redline this to see what's exactly wrong with the boobs and the face? Thanks

>>4424889
I spent a little time and cleaned this up a bit. Tried to straighten the ellipses of the wheels, added some small details. What would you do to improve it?

>>4426138
Didn't attach... Ok

I decided I wanted to start drawing, because Dwarf Fortress and its awesome graphics engine: imagination. So I downloaded Krita and shat this out.
Basically my first foray into drawing that isn't vector design. I do a lot of photography thought, so I like to work with shades and lighting.
What areas should I focus on.
I have two left hands, so smooth lines are not my friends.

I am digital painting for the first time, any tips on value?

>>4426192
Stop lighting like that with the burn tool or a giant low opacity yellow or whatever it is, it looks like theres a weird milky fog. Hand pick the colors for the lit surfaces and paint them in, you did this for the rocks and the shadow behind them but not the rest

>>4426140
>>4426192
>>4426196
0/10 for being unoriginal

Anyone have tips on how to not make my torsos look elongated? I think it is something about the stomach and am having trouble making it look human.

>>4426122
Are you that ugly?

I don’t know what’s wrong with me.

>>4426137
Everything is wrong you fucking degenerate

>>4426201
So you're saying I get a 0 in unoriginality? So that means it's good. Thanks

>>4425013
Something is off her torso looks bulky and it looks like she shit in her pants. I am not good enough to tell you how to fix it. I really like the face though. I mean it's kind of a cop out to cover it with a mask but the eyes and keystone remind me of a cat which is a good thing. You should render more often.

>>4425117
First of all they're very cute. Very appealing. But this is a trap I see a lot of people fall into, as sobering else said on Instagram. That guy or girl, Ilya that people meme about, his girls are extremely cute but if you look through his gallery 99.9 percent of everything they draw is a cute girl, shoulders up, either no emotional expression or maybe a very subtle smile. And that's a lot of fun to draw and looks good but I think it's unsatisfying because it's not telling a story. You know... A good piece of art should be able to tell you something going on and how she feels about it. That girl quinni who died recently drew a lot of cute girls but she also drew them expressing something. Sure would draw these abstract metaphors. It meant something. She was trying to communicate a message to the viewer. A cute girl is just... Coom. It's just Coom and maybe a little narcissism.

>>4426249
Press f to pray respects to quinni, may she rest in peace

f

>>4426256
F

>>4426256
F

>>4426256
lmao

>>4426320
you're soulless

>>4426256
f i liked her art

Thoughts?

>>4426388
I reported your post to the authorities. Enjoy being a punk bitch in jail

>>4425934
Nice, hopefully you're right

>>4426388
Blog?

>>4426430
Bad anatomy and Bad perspective: The Blog.

>>4424889
I'm having trouble understanding how to depict forum and I think my hand eye coordination is worse then I thought. I cant't stop my rest form moving as I draw.

>>4425935
read the fucking op numbnuts

>>4426511
Work on doing lines and circles.

I'll have to fix the head on the central figure...

>>4426522
I work in Krita and I'm finding it default to do moust exorcises. I want to draw in a "low poly" stile so I wonder if I should make references in Blender.

Complete and utter /beg/ who started artfaggotry withing the last month asking for advice but not sure what to ask for.
Just finished pic related to a point that I feel its outlived its usefulness as practice and I need to start again on something new.
This started with a trace I made and went from there but I'm not sure what to focus on trying to get right during the next go around.
>inb4 fundies
So I've heard but what needs the most improvement? I want to know what I need to drill.

>>4426388
pedo

todays figure drawing practice

uwu
My fifth anime face study

>>4426579
and here it is after letting an AI color it

that actually looks good what the fuck maybe I should learn how to color

>>4426579
>>4426581

>>4426587
w-what

the far arm feels broken for some reason

>>4426587

Can someone help me with rendering slime?

>>4426581
>tfw the AI is way better at coloring than you are

>>4424889
I have absolutely no artistic talent
I don't even know how to start learning

>>4426633
I am way more beg than you but I think it is because the elbow is behind the shoulder instead of being in front.

My daily gestures. They're getting so easy now that I'm starting to have time to add little details here and there. Pretty happy with my progress.

i tried my best, its my second drawing
what could i do better in this art ?

>>4426732

Any tips on learning color like this?
I have such a hard time with how much or how little saturation

I'm an extreme beginner and I understand I need to understand gesture and anatomy first, but are there any tips on what I should work on/path I should study to be able to draw things similar to the pic here?(Cyber/Mecha/Heroshit mostly)

First time hand gesture studies. I could be wrong as a /beg/ but as far as I can tell all drawing is just gesture lol.

>>4426537
I guess it's alright, Reginald Marsh always reminds me of early Crumb.

>>4426744
get some manga nibs... kaimei lettering sol... higher end mitsubishi or tombow pencils

>>4425183
Each of those 30 seconds? Or the whole thing?

>>4426791
30 seconds each.

>>4426800
what resources did you sue to draw body gestures? or they're just something that pop in your mind?

How are the proportions

>>4426744
I would say start with gesture, if you wish to draw manga-like things then that should be imperative. Manga and comics are all about about conveying a story. A story usually includes not only a wide range of physical movement like running, jumping, fighting or whatever but also a wide range of emotions: happiness, sadness, anger, guilty, helplessness and so on. You need to be able to know, at least on a basic level, how one's body can convey those emotions.

If you are unsure what I mean look at theater stage performance and you will see how much the actors move around to convey their emotions towards the crowd. This is needed because unlike TV in a theater one does not have a camera close up on their face do they must use their whole body to display the role they are playing. Furthermore those are all staged an choreographed by a director so the actors are also arranged in a way to help further the effect even more.

i think i fixed the arm, ill finish the linework tommorow hopefully

Hi, /beg/ here. I have no idea what I'm doing.

>>4426901
Your proportions and anatomy are way off, try not to hypnotize yourself by the ass

>>4426950
the arms?

>>4426953
Different person here, her shoulder is almost bigger than her head for instance.

>>4426953
Arms hands tiny head

today do study
next fucking day do study

>>4426748
>all drawing is just gesture
Can anyone comment on this?

>>4424892
>That nigger has been drawing for years

whomst'd've's'nd are you referring to

>>4426752
>>4426862
Thank you both for the advice. I will look into these ASAP.

>>4426904
keep going and reading friend, that's the first thing I drea immediately after my first came onto this board as well.

>>4427049
blog?

>>4426953
You can't just mindlessly inflating the size of the tits and asses anon, if you don't keep your arms/heads/hands at a certain size and just focus on drawing the T&A as big as possible the suspension of disbelief will be broken and your work will always look off.

>>4426633
you are making the 2houCHADS look bad hermano

Gesture
gmi bros ?

>>4427134
Decent start. I'd say this is a bit more fleshed out than what I would consider a gesture. I would suggest to pay a bit more attention to the relationship between the head and the main supporting leg and foot which has a big impact on the center of gravity and in turn the overall gesture.

Vertical plumb lines are a useful tool for this. At my atelier whe used physical plump lines (weighted string) that we held out in front of us towards the model as a visual aid. You don't necessarily have to draw them on the paper, but it can be helpful for longer studies (not gestures). With photos and digitas tools it becomes even easier to check your own work. I like to draw the line so that it cuts through the side of the neck down to the sole of the foot. It makes it apparent how the head is positioned in relation to the rest of the body in your reference and drawing.

>>4427127
wtf is touhou, ive always heard it but i dont get it, and dont come to me with
"i means just eastern" ive done agoogle search, it doesnt help

>>4427134
It's not bad overall you can definitely read the gesture so as far as that goes I think you did a great job, there's just some things that detract from that.
The hips you drew are tilted down towards the leg that stands on the ground, but the leg that stands on the ground is actually pushing the hip up making it tilt in the opposite direction.
Your feet look like flippers because the lines for the sole and top of the foot align too much.
Theres some problems with distances/ measurements like the arm that's resting on the hip not coming out far enough and the knee of the extended leg being too low.
The calf of the extended leg sags down too far, the taper inwards already starts esentially just below the knee, yet in your drawing the taper inwards only really start above the ankle.

>>4427157
ligmaballs

>>4427158
>>4427154
Ty bros very useful, will focus to improve my weakness

I need anatomy help with this. I can’t figure it out. She’s supposed to be sitting in a skirt.

>>4427294
if she was in a normal, rested sitting position, her knees couldn't be at a height that's so close to her tits unless she's lifting her legs to do so or she's bending down as she is sitting.

>>4427318
Thanks man this is exactly what I needed

Guys please. I have just started trying to draw, but I have autismo so I have bought an Intuos tablet and I try to draw in Krita, while following the Drawabox tutorial.
So the ghosted lines exercise https://drawabox.com/lesson/1/ghostedlines asks me to rotate the paper so I can draw a straight line consistently, but I am using a tablet and it feels really unnatural to rotate the tablet. Is the advice of rotating the paper useless when using a tablet? I feel like an idiot.

>>4427157
Touhou is a series of shitty top down scroll up shooting games (like around 10 or so without counting fan games and spin off games) that were all allegedly created by one single game developer called ZUN. But instead of space ships and giant monsters you have lots LOTS of animu girl characters in funny hats and costumes that are references to obscure Japanese folklore creatures who shoot stupid amount of magical bullets at each other.

Because of the characters being cute girls and having an absolute crapton of them the Touhu games became way more popular than they should have any right of being resulting in a massive fandom and some awesome fanarts.

>>4427369
Rotate the canvas in Krita, search for the keyboard shortcut on google, you'll probably find it easy

>>4427369
You’ll develop fine motor control with practice. It is normal to struggle with straight lines as a beginner. You can use the stabilizer tool to help but do not rely on it or traditional sketching will become difficult. You can try practicing sheets of lines traditionally to develop your skills.

>>4427384
>being cute girls
Nah, it's definitely the music as well. I don't care for cute girls but I got into Touhou because of how good of a composer ZUN is

How good should I be at drawing anime heads before moving on to full body poses

2hu girls like this >>4427118
make me coom.

>>>4427127
imagine getting so buttblasted over a fucking phrase that has no harm at all, imagine being that faggot that report it.

jannies are faggots but you fags aswell

>>4427426
I am more surprised towards the fact that the tranny jannies actually deleted that post at all, this is literally the first time I see them deleting a post just a basic canned insult against a random poster.

Looks like that anon who's obsessed with drawing fat touhous are in bed with jannies or is a janny himself.

requesting for critique, it's just a sketch so far, couldn't find the anime thread, am a /beg/ anyway so posting here is fine

>>4427134
Gesture and some construction

>>4427434
same, my problem isn't even about being deleted but what it entails, you can see threads about the most off topic shit out there clogging the catalog and these faggots wont move a finger even after massive reports like that faggot and his discord trannyfriend but here just a simple '' you are making the 2huchads look bad'' was what make him uppity, i doubt there were enough people to report me for something as dumb but the fact that he went out his way just to remove it speaks tons of the kind of faggots that we have for jannies

>>4427434
they arnt that fat ;-;. and jannies are mean

Why didn't anyone told me that FWP requires 200 IQ to follow? Like what the fuck are you even supposed to do here?

>>4427384
oh

>>4427543
"You must use your eye and build very carefully."

>>4425900
just throw some color dodge on it
who gives a fuck

>>4427549
How build? Me no understand.

>>4427543
Start with perspective. Loomis' books aren't that good, in my opinion. They require you to have prior knowledge or brute-force copy every page. And both methods aren't likely to teach you well to begin with.

>>4425025

>>4424889
what does color depth do? 8 -16 - 32 bit?

>>4425025

ahhahahahahah
i know
i know who you are
you haven't been here for a while
and it looks like you haven't progressed one bit
never took any advice we had given you
cringe retard

>>4426739
look at and study atmospheric perspective. notice the further away the objects are, the lighter it gets and vice versa. pic was my first attempt at color, nothing too crazy and it probably looks like dog shit. just mess around with colors

>>4426404
>>4426430
how the hell is that loli? is not even Japanese not even Manga style, would you call this ugly pig a loli? I dont think so.

>>4427646
her gigantic cranium causes the mind to associate her with a child because children's heads are very large compared to their bodies
if her head was even just half the size, it'd (probably) fly under janny's radar
it sucks when you just want your characters to have big heads though
so much for artistic freedom

>>4426686
looks good... although you could add highlights that compliment the form, it does a lot for goo girls

im half surprised you haven't added them with the way you've rendered so far

>>4427646
Just seething roasties and trannies, don't bother posting small breasts on this board

>>4427438
You should try flipping your canvas occasionally

>>4427318
>>4427294

Did the best I could still don’t fully understand it, going to attempt it again

>>4427554
oh fuck that's pretty based. Wtf is color dodge. I use a f2p art tool.

Is it on procreate?

>>4427773
Pls don’t fall for the dodge/burn meme

>>4427651
>>4427665
Is not so much them being called children but being called loli, loli is manga style for Christ sake.

Also I really wanted to know if her legs where in the correct position.

>>4425900
>>4427554
This book is pretty good
https://exhentai.org/g/1511814/466b0e578a/

>>4427689 thanks

Is there a way to study eye foreshortening at different angles? I know this sounds like a fool's errand (to the point where I've been tempted to just move on with body proportions) but there's no point in doing that if you haven't nailed the basics of the head.
I've noticed that I can get some extreme side profile angles (I don't know the exact term but that's probably the best way to put it) close to it's actual reference but when it comes to 3/4 sides, I feel like as if my brain just decides to take a shit.

>>4427563

>>4425900
十年早いんだよ

>>4427790

>>4427867
stop grinding, move on with the body proportions. try again later

>>4427787

>>4427563
>>4427939
Practice from the Dynamic Sketching course?

>>4428207
yup.

>>4428215
Looks neat, when did you start out with the course?

>>4428203
It’s a crutch and early 00’s internet was full of shitty deviantart drawings that abused it. It does nothing for you in the long run and it looks like shit to a trained eye.

practicing, trying to draw better poses and i feel like this is wrong

Another experiment in “painting.” And a complete failure in structure.

>>4426904
Take Vilppu as your lord and saviour.

>>4427134
Stop drawing the contours. Contours are a happy accident not gesture.

>>4428259
Blog?

I'm living in a nightmare world outside the bounds of logic and coherence.

>>4428283
Are you high?

>>4428231
about a month ago, i went through the fundamental part quite quickly, then got sidetracked doing some hampton and drawing people from photos.

going back to dynamic sketching now. I've posted some of what the last week has looked like in the sketchbook thread >>4428358

>>4427763
You need to apply construction on your sketch to understand a pose if you are attempting any poses that you haven't draw for 6 million times. Her ass shouldn't look like that from that angle/pose, and her right arm has to be broken for her hand to be touching her knees like that.

Granted you have improved the drawing from >>4427294 there's a still a ton of issues you are suffering from that boils down to "not understanding the pose entirely", you need to learn from construction and gestures more anon.

>>4424889

Honestly I try to draw for like 3 hours and I'm just bashing my empty fuckin head against something I can't finish because I don't know how to fix the things I find wrong

>>4428364
>about a month ago, i went through the fundamental part quite quickly
When you say "fundamental part", how many course weeks (video numbers) did you go through?
>I've posted some of what the last week has looked like in the sketchbook thread >>4428358
What did your stuff look like before you started with dynamic sketching (at all)?

I'm doing drawabox right now. How come it doesn't mention anything about the human figure? (gesture drawing, figure drawing, anatomy etc). I just want to draw anime girls

>>4428432
Don't just draw a box- animate one.
Draw that box rotating in 3-d or the exercise is just mindless scribbling

>>4428441
I'm still at the part where I'm supposed to do ghosting. It's supposed to be a mechanical/muscle-mind connection exercise, if anything. I believe the cube rotation's in the next lesson.

>>4428420
Would snu snu

Im not sure how to draw her left arm, the angle that im trying look weird, can someone give me light in this ?

>>4428428
im pretty inconsistent, but you can look at my DAD for a pretty comprehensive overview of (almost) everything ive drawn since I started taking it seriously in October (3+ hours a day, most days)
https://dad.gallery/users/1566/submissions

let me know if you have any questions

>>4428465
i realize i forgot to mention the other question, in the ver of Dynamic Sketching i grabbed from the 800 GB MEGA, weeks 1-5 are the fundies. It might be different in the current course or if you grab a different pirated copy of the videos. The homework is paced at about 8-10 hours a week, so you can blitz through it much faster than 1:1 with the weeks if you feel like doing so

>>4428269
Last attempt for the weekend.

>>4428465
>>4428468
>from the 800 GB MEGA
I missed that big archive, sadly. I do have DS 1 and 2 from sometime last year (pic for reference, week 1 DS1). I feel lie I'm already retarded for the course, who holds their pen at a 90° constantly, ha
>you can look at my DAD for a pretty comprehensive overview of (almost) everything ive drawn since I started taking it seriously in October
Looks like you improved significantly with DS. Do you value any other courses or books besides it?

Wanted to try something wholesome. Any advice for fixing the early sketch?

I need help for her other arm, i don't know how to pose it.

>>4428465
>>4428468
>>4428477
I forgot to add that I'm currently working my way through Marshall's perspective course, so DS will be tackled after that + Robertson's "How To Draw"

>>4428477
the three books i find myself always returning to:
- Hampton
- How to Draw
- Bridgman
some exercises i do often:
- draw a face from http://oh-hi.info/
- draw a gesture from croquis cafe
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22XYoenU-0c

>>4428521
>Bridgman
Which of his books and which exercises, to be precise?

What about Dodson's "Keys To Drawing"?

>>4428521
Do you have any drawings you did from imagination?

>>4424956
Dead link

Tried following paintable. failed horribly.

tried following paintable, failed dunno what to do except keep trying.

i dont know if im portraying forms well at all on clothing

My faces always turn out looking too plain and androgynous. Any advice to make this face more masculine?

new sketch

>>4428718

First time drawing a "feet focused" piece, still have to go and add some more line weight to the lower half of the image.

>>4428647
use ALL the values...dont just use light and dark

>>4428475
Back to penciling and inking. About 2 hours’ work. Too long for such mediocre results?

Did some figure drawing, these were all 1-2 minutes.

It just feels so difficult.

finished desu

>>4428862
The neck is totally off and the head should be way smaller.

boring stuff

>>4428890
The eyes on the middle one seems weird.

Im starting to draw fat guys Im not much experienced in digital pls help

>>4428890
how long have you been drawing for. I really like what you do.

>>4428904
Started art at 2011 but never draw figure until 2016 (started with copied some sad panda stuff) my progress is so fucking slow so i studying again

>>4428742
Stop flooding the thread with your shit. This isn’t your blog, faggot.

Anyone have an alternative to loomis. I hate the art style

>>4428956

lmao pyw

>>4428956
Isn't it suposed to be thread for shit art?

>>4428962
Learn from loomis while using the style you prefer as reference, same principle, different subjects.

>>4428995
Yeah, but not for one guy to keep posting his shit every hour.

>>4427440
Push the gesture more, break what a real person can do.

>>4427763
It's nice and expressive, good job. Don't pay attention to the people saying the pose is wrong, we're past the time where things need to represent reality exactly. It's a girl sitting down with huge proportions mixed with very small ones. I think you got the point across very well regardless of anatomical "mistakes". A part of drawing is seeing things the way you wanna see it, if you wanna see a pose that isn't bound to reality draw that shit, it is still pleasing to the eye.

>>4428283
Your work will rarely be appreciated here.

>>4428484
I would have it straight up in a fist like she's confidently leading her troops to victory. Aligning the arm with the rest of the body will be good shape design, you want things to all correlate with each other more or less since you'll have contrast in the shape, seen in her arm going out. I would also recommend next time be more expressive in the torso and legs, have them doing something interesting, I think an X shape for the whole figure would look really cool, but that would be a more serious take on the character. You made her seem confidently silly so idk you figure out how to put them into shape, but always keep in mind what you want their pose to say about them.

I feel like I'm gonna be a /beg/ forever

any tips on finishing this?

>>4428647
You have a promising career as a police sketch artist.

There's one thing you could do to make your faces more masculine: draw more lines. I don't mean to add cross-hatching, but to accentuate the features of the face. Draw the lines that go from the nostrils to the corners of the mouth. Draw lines to accentuate cheekbones. Draw in a philtrum. Thicken the eyebrows.

Other things: Don't color the lips. It looks like lipstick. Make the upper lip thinner than the lower lip. In fact, consider not drawing the upper lip at all.

>>4429047
I’d say you’re better than /beg, bro.

>>4426221
Damn

why is my ability to recongize shit is off vastly better then my recognize why it is off/ fix it.

>>4429057
you fell into my fishing scheme, anon

portraits are all I can draw properly and often my anatomy looks like trash

>>4429078
>you fell into my fishing scheme, anon
Well fine, fuck you too, faggot. I hope you get raped to death by a pack of AIDS ridden feral niggers.

>>4429080
I'm sorry, anon. Didn't mean to bamboozle you too hard

>>4428484
You also don't know how to pose the arm you did draw. The thumb should be on top and facing us.

Based on the rest of the pose, the character appears confident about something. The standard answer would be to have the character's other hand resting on her hip, but that only duplicates what's already expressed and doesn't express the scene's action. The question of pose can be solved like this: what are you trying to convey? Is she leading an army into battle? Challenging an opponent to a duel? Pointing to something in the distance? About to pop some kid's balloon? Determine what's happening, what the character is interacting with, and you'll know what to have the other hand doing.

>>4428251
Wrong. You are just too bad to use it properly and you wouldn't recognize good color dodge due to your inexperience

>>4429148
Do you have any advice on using color dodge and burn?

>>4428683
that face is your trademark lol

>>4428683
why does she have a scar on nose

>>4428528
Complete guide to drawing from life collects most of his books i believe, i dont think he has any specific exercises so i just copy plates

Dodson is extremely good for getting over the hump of learning to draw what you see and shop up linework until you can feel confident putting it down. I dont return to it that much though, because most of it is just learning to sketch from life iirc.

>>4428535
I don't really do any pure imagination stuff, sorry

>>4429175
Rip anons work

When drawing from observation, is it better to spend a lot of time on a single drawing and trying to make it look as good as possible, or should you draw lots of sketches instead?

>>4429354
Lots of relatively finished sketches. Flesh things out and "complete" them but don't constantly polish them or you will make slow progress.

>>4429354
draw from observation, then redraw it a second time once you understand the forms to reach a deeper understanding

>>4427939
bone structure

>>4429477
source?

>>4429486
source for what? the reference?

>>4429491
yes

>>4429495
just google duck skeleton and lion skeleton

Anyone know what brand sketchbook this is? It says "white white" on the cover and the pic is from Miss Jisu's drawing demo with proko.

How do I overcome this mind numbing barrier of "everything I do is shit"? I want to learn how to draw and because I enjoy art so much, but I feel like i'm trying to climb a mountain without a path.

>>4429583
try not to think about it much thats how i cope

>>4429477
dynamic sketching?

>>4429068
>why is my ability to recongize shit is off vastly better then my recognize why it is off/ fix it.
It's a survival instinct that allowed humankind to evolve. Understanding why something is off requires study and self-awareness.

>>4429583
>How do I overcome this mind numbing barrier of "everything I do is shit"? I want to learn how to draw and because I enjoy art so much, but I feel like i'm trying to climb a mountain without a path.
People climb mountains without paths all the time. They're called mountain climbers. Like you, they start at the bottom of the mountain, stare up at the summit and think, "This is fucking impossible." They eventually get there, though. All it takes is getting a sturdy grip on the mountain to start climbing. Oh, and don't look down.

>>4429619

>>4428207
>>4428215

>>4429865
loomis fag

>>4427662
I get quite scared of bright brights and dark darks! thats why all my works have a low value range! thank you! i will try adding highlights now :0

>>4429023
What do you mean by x pose?
>>4429107
Thanks! I tried redrawing that hand god knows how many times but couldn't realize what was wrong.

>>4426686
>>4427662
thats not how you should do speculars/highlights, you need to think of them as helping to define the 3d form of the drawing rather than following the contours. its extremely rare this sort of thin, wispy line is justified as a shape for a highlight.

Look at Corrosive Ooze by Daniel Ljunggren for MTG for an example of professional quality handling of speculars. There's lots of other techniques packed in there you can steal for yourself, and learning and understanding them will go a long way for the rest of your art, even for other materials.

>>4429942
Don't forget you can play with Hue or Saturation when you push Value as well

Some loomis exercices