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IF YOU ARE A /BEG/INNER IN ART, please use this thread to post pieces for critique or ask for advice. We should not have to make new threads or post in the /draw/thread with our fundamental exercises.

Feel free to post even the smallest exercise you have done to show you are still trying, or you literally are never going to make it

previous >>4411261

READ THE STICKY if you need guidance.
Sticky: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwaXKU7ev6Tw_or__o8ARpUb6r2rCZYJGqwSFV9AD98/edit#bookmark=id.15jx3pyuimvj

RESIZE YOUR IMAGES - try ~1000px, <1.1mb

>> No.4415269

only I am going to make it

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oop

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>> No.4415305
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of course 4 month not make any big difference
just study and grind making plan of own work

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>> No.4415398
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how did i do

>> No.4415451

>>4415398
Obviously very poorly.

>> No.4415484

>>4415451
so whats wrong

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>> No.4415493

>>4415398
The shape of your limbs are pretty fucked up. Also it is flat as fuck.

>> No.4415498

is hampton’s book for /beg/? ordering some supplies atm and thinking of grabbing some art-related book while i’m at it

>> No.4415500

>>4415398
The foreshortening kinda worked tho.

>> No.4415505

>>4415498
the anatomy one? yeah its pretty good and simple

>> No.4415507
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>>4415505
this one

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>>4415493
does this look better?

>> No.4415514

>>4415507
yes

>> No.4415517
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>>4415267
WHY CAN'T I STOP SYMBOL DRAWING FACES WHEN I CAN DRAW EVERYTHING ELSE FINE AND IN PROPORTION. I'M LITERALLY GOING TO GIVE UP BECAUSE OF THIS

>> No.4415523

>>4415277
try being better
>>4415327
hes so fat wtf
>>4415398
my nigga.. how do you fuck up so hard at literally copying lines.
>>4415489
soulful
>>4415511
is she an amputee wearing a boot or...

>> No.4415544

>>4415517
pyw

>> No.4415545

>>4415523
>my nigga.. how do you fuck up so hard at literally copying lines.
i wasn't copying lines

>is she an amputee wearing a boot or...
look at the reference

>> No.4415547

>>4415517
Probably because you never studied the skull.

>> No.4415548

>>4415517
>I CAN DRAW EVERYTHING ELSE FINE AND IN PROPORTION
>doubt.jpg

>> No.4415555

>>4415511
no, draw what you see anon. Look that the shape of her right shoulder. Your is totally different. And it is the same for the rest of the body too.

>> No.4415557

>Vilppu hates Loomis
NOOOOOOOOOOOO
Sorry Loomis, but I have to root for Vilppu

>> No.4415561

>>4415555
these things are obvious and easily fixable in seconds, im more interested in knowing how i did with proportions, gesture, construction and foreshortening

>> No.4415573

>>4415561
He's telling you that you didn't get the gesture and proportions right dumb fucking /beg/. I swear half of you retards don't deserve any feedback.

>> No.4415575

>>4415561
prove it

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>>4415575
>>4415561

im waiting for the redline if it still looks bad

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I hope you enjoyed drawing today anon.

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>>4415598

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>>4415267
just a quick sketch... been trying to study the anime style

>> No.4415607

>>4415271
hand is backwards. don’t polish turds

>> No.4415614

>>4415607
pyw

>> No.4415616

>>4415614
>gets critique
>p-post y-your work!!

>> No.4415618

>>4415616
lmao
pyw coward

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>>4415614

>> No.4415621

>>4415614
stfu retard. both the hands are backwards. this is like beg 101

>> No.4415622

>>4415619
>>4415621
pyw

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>>4415622

>> No.4415634

>>4415625
/beg/tard detected

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>>4415598

>> No.4415686
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how do I practice eye placement

I've been trying for like 30 minutes to get a non-toddler placement for the right eye and it always comes out wrong

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Props to the anon who made my garou shitting

>> No.4415691

>>4415686
you draw the construction line where you want the eye to go instead of the middle of nowhere

>> No.4415698

>>4415691
See but that's his problem.
He doesn't know where he wants the eye to go.
How do you construct the construction line?

>> No.4415701

>>4415686
How can you place the nose line correctly, but forget that the line above that is the brow line? Draw the eye bigger.

>> No.4415705

Good resources for learning backgrounds and environments? I know you need to divide the canvas into rectangles or something.

>> No.4415707

>>4415701
o-oh yeah there was something about that line

t-thanks

>> No.4415728

>>4415614
> someone needs to draw well to see that hands are backwards

>> No.4415738

>>4415698
by feeling the form

>> No.4415772
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Look guys I'm gonna make my anime

>> No.4415775

>>4415772
I like it.

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>>4415523
Don't disrespect my boy Siegmeyer like that

>> No.4415782

is there anything useful on learning to draw animals?

>> No.4415783
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I'm not sure why but my drawing from this reference seems to look like a cross breed between a bear and a cheetah. Can someone redline it. Maybe I should gave drawn the entire rederence.

I can see some mistakes but I think /ic/ can expose some more.

>> No.4415817

its mostly the snout being too long i think

>> No.4415828

>>4415782
vilppu

>> No.4415833
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>>4415606
try harder with your bait next time

>> No.4415840

>>4415652
Shes ugly asf

>> No.4415861
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quick sketch

>> No.4415866

>>4415616
>>4415619
>>4415728
Not him but the hands arent backwards

>> No.4415868

>>4415866
is this bait?

>> No.4415871
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still going on the loomis head ( procreate edition this time) how do I resize a picture on iPad ?

>> No.4415875
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Sorry for large image, im currently phone posting.

Anyways, why is it so goddamn hard for me to correctly analyze and get the proportions of the face correct?
Left drawing is drawn from ref and and the right drawing is traced. I feel like such drooling retard right now.

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>>4415686
Bros I don't think I'm gonna make it this is too hard

>> No.4415896

>>4415884
That looks really good, keep it up. It is way too hard for any normal person, but since you're here, you're here forever.

>> No.4415899

why did you move the nose away from the eye

>> No.4415905

>>4415868
no

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>>4415884
Simplify shapes maybe

>> No.4415908

>>4415899
good catch, thanks

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Other loomis study with little fun

>> No.4416001

>>4415861
no

>> No.4416009

>>4415861
ok I take back what I said a few day earlier

N

>> No.4416020

>>4415866
Sure, I see what you mean, but can you see that it is possible to read them as backwards? Even if it wasn't it wouldn't be a good reason to ask to post their work.

>> No.4416055

>draw something without really trying that hard
>really like how it turns out
>couple days later try another drawing
>hate how it turns out
>the harder I try the worse my drawings today seem to be
why is this allowed

>> No.4416064

>>4415861
>asukafag is a futafag
based af

>> No.4416074

>>4415905
>right hand pronated
>skinny digit on near side, fat digit on far side
>left hand supinated
>webbing connecting thumb to finger on near side

>> No.4416077
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Anyone else got habits before they draw? I always gotta shower first before I can draw (shower everyday) and don't draw after fapping because it destroys the immersion of drawing pure an wholesome art

>> No.4416081

>>4416077
Holy shit I shower before I draw too.
It's not a hard requirement but I definitely prefer it.

>> No.4416082

>>4416064
it's very cool to draw penises
i shall explore all paths
hopefully soon i willl upgrade my skills to impress you guys, need to grind more anatomy and references

>> No.4416097 [DELETED] 

Any suggestions on learning how to draw? I don't know where to start. How do I learn to not let failed drawings bring me down? Ie not equating my worth with the quality of what I draw. I have a hard time motivating myself and actually picking up the pen.

>> No.4416100

>Any suggestions on learning how to draw?
jesus fucking christ every time

>> No.4416107

>>4416097
give up now. for everybody's sake, not just your own.

>> No.4416202
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Is grid drawing good practice for a beginner or just a crutch that creates bad habits?

>> No.4416253

>>4415861
>asukafag is just a fag now
Sad.

>> No.4416260

>>4416253
when you keep calling someone a fag, this is what happens

watch your language faggots

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Anyone got Designdoll 5.0.0.4 crack?

>> No.4416408
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working on the water atm

>> No.4416412

>>4416202
It makes it easier for beginners to spot their copying mistakes and ideally learn from them. Just don't rely on it for too long and move on to copying normally.

>> No.4416419

>>4416408
This looks pretty great dude

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>> No.4416454

>>4416316
This is extremely anxiety inducing

>> No.4416469
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?

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>> No.4416472

>>4416419
thanks homie

>> No.4416477
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>>4415267
gotta go get it

>> No.4416482

>get back into drawing
>find brush pen that i apparently bought at some point and never used
>actually try it out

wtf bros it’s like digital but on paper

>> No.4416498

>>4416477
why do you haunt us so?

>> No.4416530
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Oh god. I’m suddenly drawing way, way worse than I used to. Whenever I try to draw the human body I lose all concept of what it’s supposed to look like. What do I do?

>> No.4416535

>>4416530
Loomis

>> No.4416540

>>4416530
Read Keys to Drawing up to Ch 2. Just read, no projects.

>> No.4416565

>>4416469
Ruined

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>> No.4416592

>>4416584
Rip wrist tendons

>> No.4416595

>>4416592
Oops. Just realized that. Thanks.

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>> No.4416603
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latest project for class
think it was around 8 hours?

>> No.4416605

When I get to the reverse engineering cartoon figures part of Fun With A Pencil, should I do every example figure or should I pick the ones that seem the most difficult?

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>> No.4416689
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>> No.4416701
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Face gesture / placement practice thing.

>> No.4416702

>>4416701
Oh yeah this was from reference with 3 minutes on the timer, for some reason the straight-ahead one (first) is the only one I really managed to half-finish in 3 minutes but the others started getting weird angles and it was way harder.

>> No.4416709

>>4416687
This is actually pretty good you got a nice style and placement for the features but some lines / parts of lines aren't following the form.

>> No.4416734
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I have a little doubt, when you do gesture you are suppose the get not the contour but instead the flow of the post in few lines as possible, right?. I get that.

Then I figure out that in some poses I actually need to vaguely draw the countour as part of the gesture in order to find out the shape or the rhythm. Is not drawing countor bad?, I'm doing it wrong?

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Just gotta figure out cloth and lighting

>> No.4416811

>>4416734
i recommend reading/watching vilppu on it. it's ch1 on both his book and vid series and both are the respective share threads.

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>>4416734
pic related

>> No.4416830
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I don’t understand shading. Help?

>> No.4416871

>>4416603
Drapery is pretty bad anon

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finally got some time away from the wagecage. How can i make it look less /beg/. or should i just try rendering, will that help it?

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>>4416830

Still messing with this

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>>4416913
you are making the TouhouCHADS look bad bro

>> No.4417061

>>4416734
you can do it either way actually

>> No.4417068
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>>4417053
how?

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Is there any hope for me? Just started

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Painted this, really fucked the proportions. Otherwise happy to have actually finished something.

>> No.4417110

>>4417106
Ok ciao

>> No.4417117

>>4417110
Gesundheit

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pls help

>> No.4417138

>>4417127
Big Bada Boom
Try using less colors, 80 to 100% opacity brush, under paint the entire canvas like in traditional mostly because I'm seeing white spots, I don't know about the reference but making shadows just by straight making it blacker isn't a good way to go since bounce light happens everywhere and the shadow will take a little of the colors surrounding it.

>> No.4417139

>>4417127
sweet jesus mother of god.

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>>4416477
You're one of the better /beg/s but I hate your plane tits

>> No.4417190
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hey guys how did i do

>> No.4417205

>>4417127
Jesus. You need Jesus.

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Practicing and shit.

>> No.4417211

>>4417095
You’ve got talent kid

>> No.4417219

>>4416077
I shower too, i feel gross doing anything if i don't shower first

>> No.4417227
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I just cant get the details right, still feeling like i symbol draw a lot.

Where can i improve first? Maybe construction and get the overall perspective right first?

>> No.4417242

>>4417219
Do you feel gross showering without showering first?

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>>4417068
the drappery is garbage and her spine is snapped, her right calve overlaps her left despiste being her right leg being slightly lifted, her left arm being in side view can only be possible if her ribcage is it aswell making her spine snap the hair is meh too

tdlr:DA-tier

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>>4417253
>you will never be the couch in that pic with all those braphogs

>> No.4417262

>>4417258
should i completely start over then?

>> No.4417265

>>4417227
if they arent copies they just keep going

>> No.4417269

>>4417258
>these redlines
>tfw will never be this good

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>>4417262
that pose and 3D level of comprehension is beyond your current skills, if you want to settle for whatever it comes out then do it but that's time that could have been spent getting gud in the areas you are lacking

>> No.4417291

>>4417284
what do you suggest would help me the most or is the weakest part?
Im pretty sure you've given me multiple redlines in the past, and thank you.

>> No.4417318

>>4417265
Well, they are done from reference.

>> No.4417342

>>4417227
these are really good

>> No.4417345

>>4417227
These aren't your drawings are they?

>> No.4417393

>>4416913
you are ambitious with your poses anon, I admire that.

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>> No.4417404

>>4417401
>draw a stickman
>can't feel the form
Kek

>> No.4417413

>>4417401
poor crabhanded people can't feel it :{

>> No.4417434

>>4417413
Nice catch, didn't even see the crab hands.

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drew these today, no reference cuz i was in class. would like some honest feedback, knocked up the black values but otherwise no digital tampering. will post second drawing

>> No.4417442

Still doing some loomis heads

>> No.4417444
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>>4417442
Fuvk

>> No.4417467

>>4417291
it depends on your goals, idk what are you aiming for, maybe you don't want anything uber detailed

>> No.4417472

Sketch from imagination, cant rly tell if its fundamentally broken or if its conveying the gesture.

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>>4417472
Fuck the file

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>>4417436
second

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Hi /beg/s! What do you think about the proportions/perspective?

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Ok some more loomis study what do you think ?

>> No.4417655

>>4417444
>>4417650
How do I draw the jawbone line correctly?

>> No.4417656

>>4415688
>filename
kek nice

>> No.4417677

>>4417655

study loomis I don't know

https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/human-head-base-mesh-159b3666d6d749dba0cfeb3ba3a2134d


use reference maybe... I really don't know how to help you If I don't see your work.

>> No.4417760

so i’ve done lesson 1 of drawabox, but i’m really feeling some fatigue. what can i move on to? i’d already be following some nma lessons if i wasn’t afraid of them being too advanced. what about books? do i meme loomis?

>> No.4417798
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4417798

I'm doing fun with a pencil again

>> No.4417803

How long have you been stuck in /beg/?
1.5 years here.

>> No.4417853
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4417853

>>4417803
Way too long for my taste I need to take 6month brake tho

I will loomis-grind my way out of there.

>> No.4417857

>>4417853
i need to stop taking 6 month break*
fuck this ipad thingy

>> No.4417863

>>4416077
I always gently fidget with my testicles with my left hand while drawing, it's very relaxing.

>> No.4417872

>>4417853
My sketchbooks are full of aimless grinding. I feel like I need to really push myself and drill down into a sketch and try and push it beyond my current ability if I want to improve. But there was also like a 3 month period that I dedicated exclusively trying to render two pieces and was endlessly changing details trying to make them perfect and I don't feel like I learned very much during that period, because I basically stopped exposing myself to reference material altogether and I got really laser focused on a small number of problems.
My current plan is to try and combine the best of both approaches. I want to always have some sort of longer-term project that I work on at least a little each day, and this will be where I really drill hard and try to make something look good, but only up to a certain point. There is a point where you hit diminishing returns and it's better to just move on to something new. While these projects are going on I'll also mix in daily figure drawing from reference, studies of other artists, random little doodles from imagination, etc, to keep building my visual library and to keep myself sketching.
This advice is COMPLETELY untested, I am a shitty /beg/, ymmv, etc.

>> No.4417884
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4417884

uhgh... fellas?

>> No.4417888

>>4417872
>I want to always have some sort of longer-term project that I work on at least a little each day, and this will be where I really drill hard and try to make something look good, but only up to a certain point. There is a point where you hit diminishing returns and it's better to just move on to something new.

i'm pretty sure I looked up a video of a youtuber saying basicaly the same thing as you say.

You go on a project work from reference try to understand and study the reference the best you can but not to long
Take other reference, start a new project do the same thing and once you did this with 3 or 4 project go back to the first project and see if you can improve it with the thing you studied earlier, do your best move to the 2nd project in a circle way.

>> No.4417889

>>4417884
Looking good, how do I feel the form like you?

>> No.4417894

>>4417884
Getting closer to Chun-li

>> No.4417903
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4417903

Rate my first attempt of full face drawing, lads.

>> No.4417904
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4417904

baggy t shirt

>> No.4417908

>>4417903
Loomis for a month then redraw the drawing.

>> No.4417952
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4417952

>>4416469

>> No.4417957

>>4417884
very nice asukurwa, the face is more "sensible" ( more feminine if you like ) than before but it still has your style it's good ( although try to have the line of the eyes lids darker on the top than on the bottom it create more depth ).

the hips on the left is strange tho, maybe try flatten it a bit, the bump goes too much to the left, but I'm not sure I should try to draw it myself but I don't have the motivation sorry.

>> No.4417963
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4417963

The symmetry on Goku's eyes feels off. Any advice?

>> No.4417991
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4417991

>>4417963
I tried my best I don't know if that going to help you

>> No.4417994
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4417994

What should i do? Draw more heads? Be more careful with proportions?(like the white in the eyes) The shapes? Or is there something else that i can't see?

>> No.4418005

>>4417106
This is bad.

>> No.4418012

Why do all these drawing books teach people who already can draw how to draw better instead of teaching how to fucking draw from scratch?

>> No.4418014

>>4417991
thanks, but I'm gonna have to modify it myself. Your pic is a great outline for what I need to fix, however the j-peg compression ruins a lot of detail

>> No.4418015

>>4418012
Because none would buy a book that tells you to draw 50 pages of parallel lines.

>> No.4418023

>>4418015
because that would also not teach you how to draw from scratch.

>> No.4418024

>>4418012
If you can't already draw as a grown man, I'm sorry to say, but you may need some serious help that even /ic/ can not provide.

>> No.4418031

>>4418012
Yeah, I felt the same way when I was an absolute level 0 /beg/.
Unfortunately there's a shitton of stuff that you just have to figure out for yourself in the beginning through grinding. You need to achieve a certain baseline level in order to have a foundation to work off of.
Where are you exactly? Are you able to take a reference and copy it at least somewhat? Can you "feel the form"? Have you done the wrapping lines exercise on drawabox? Wrapping lines are really critical for thinking in 3D.

>> No.4418033

>>4418023
Because they can't help you imagine something that you want to draw

>> No.4418043
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4418043

>>4418033
the point was that any retard can draw parallel lines as they please, the physical mechanics of drawing are nearly irrelevant. so is imagination for that matter, your eyes give you an infinite variety of things to practice on.

the whole premise was dumb though, there's plenty of books that start from the absolute basics.

>> No.4418053
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4418053

Hey /beg/ did this sketch on a whim. Please feel free to rip and tear. I'm posting on a phone so I apologise for the size.

>> No.4418055
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4418055

My sip owo


gonna fix z eyes

>> No.4418071

>>4418031
>Where are you exactly?
I tried drawing copying this picture >>4417994 and compared to this guy mine looks nothing like the original and proportions are way off. I studied Loomis, How to draw, Keys to drawing and a bunch of random youtube tutorials and ultimately I gained nothing from all this and stayed at the exact same level I was before. May be I'm just clinically retarded and physically unable to learn.

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4418076

>>4418055

>> No.4418078

>>4415517
Do your asaro heads anon, thank me later

https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/asaro-head-9d26548182f8465a8e97371a9170561e

>> No.4418094

>>4418078
Seems cool shadow and all will try, but what's wrong with mine?

>> No.4418096

>>4418094
Learn the planes of the face and you'll ween off of symbols. Draw that head in a bunch of different angles while using the Loomis head as a base

>> No.4418098
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4418098

What critiques would you give to this, are there any fundamentals that are fucked, which fundies should I work more on.

>> No.4418145
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4418145

>>4417884

I fixed some things..

>> No.4418148

>>4418145
Gorgeous face. My favorite.

>> No.4418160

>>4418071
You probably just need to start grinding. Just draw, draw from reference, draw from imagination, it doesn't matter, just keep drawing. It took me hundreds of hours to go from where you are now to "ok, I'm ready to start learning now". You will naturally get better at copying references the more you draw.

>> No.4418217
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4418217

baggy shirt number 2

>> No.4418228

>>4418071
>guys i tried drawing something once and it sucked
Hardly anyone gets drawing a portrait down on the first try. What >>4417994 posted is called a "warm-up." If you want to get better, draw the portrait, then step back, and look at it again with a critical eye. You mark it up, write notes, be unsentimental about it. Then after a day, you draw it again. You repeat the process until the result is satisfactory. This is how you improve.

>> No.4418312

>>4418053
the perspective of a medieval drawing

>> No.4418332
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4418332

>>4415267
finito

>> No.4418338

>>4417803
did you start 1.5 years ago

>> No.4418339

>>4418145
>posting naked pictures of your wife for everyone to see
cuck

>> No.4418345

>>4418098
Its too messy, like you didn't feel like drawing certain parts so you represented them with unreadable scribbles.

>> No.4418349

>>4418145
Not bad Asukafag.
You're definitely improving.

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4418352

guko

>> No.4418361

>>4416477

thank you

>> No.4418363

>>4418145

yes.

>> No.4418384

how do people use graphite when charcoal is so nice to blend

>> No.4418398

>>4418145
looks old and manly

>> No.4418416
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4418416

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
I WANT TO MAAAAAAAAAAAKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE IIIIIIIIIT

>> No.4418418
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4418418

i’m ngmi

>> No.4418431

>>4418416
Gmi. Ganbatte.

>> No.4418456

>>4418352
yeah
galo sengen

>> No.4418466

any good courses on writing and directing tv shows like cartoons or anime storyboarding also

>> No.4418506
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4418506

Portraits and some imagination stuff

>> No.4418524

>>4418145
Bro I finished like 5 better drawings than you in the time that you began that

>> No.4418530

>>4418524
but were they any good?

>> No.4418579
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4418579

>>4418416
if those are her knees at the end of her dress they are too low, and her neck/head placement it looks like that golem meme, it could work if it were lower or her torso weren't so arched, but her head and that nose bridge are hilariously bad , rule of thumb eyes are in the center of the head mouth 1/3 from the end of the nose to the jaw but depending of the style that could vary but yours is way to lower.

tdlr:OH NO NO NO NO NO LOOK AT THE TOP OF HIS HEAD

>> No.4418601

>>4418579
Those are her boots, and yeah I have to practice the side view a lot, thanks senpai

>> No.4418612

>>4418579
>rule of thumb eyes are in the center of the head
you're banned from redlining anime heads.

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4418625

>>4418612
maybe not exactly in the middle but just dropping a little of the center about 70% down

>> No.4418646

>>4418524
Why don't you post them then big guy

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4418651

>>4418625
it's like you've never seen anime girls before

>> No.4418657
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4418657

>>4418524
pyw

>> No.4418661

>>4418651
i hope your not counting the hair as a part of the head

>> No.4418674

>>4417284
To be fair -- even attempting something as difficult as this is already big progress for him. Now all he needs to do is practice in the area that he's lacking the most in that picture then return to it. Or press on and finish it, because finishing is better than never finshing. Also, I like Touhou.

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>>4418661
not to say anon's head is flawless or anything, but you are a retard for thinking this was out of bounds.

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4418726

and the chicken tastes like wood

>> No.4418735
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4418735

more chicken scratches than a henhouse

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4418736

gonna draw old ladies

>> No.4418742
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4418742

any feedback? This is my first landscape

>> No.4418770

>>4418726
That comment a Dennis the menace reference from 1993?

>> No.4418778

>>4417496
>>4417436
I dig it bro, keep doing non reference every once in a while. Helps you realize what mental blanks you have in the ol' mental library

>> No.4418780

>>4417163
>>4416477
Why are the weirdo degenerate fucks the best artists

>> No.4418785

Is Loomis a meme? If not, why all his books are available for free?

>> No.4418926
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4418926

>>4418785
Yes loomis’ a meme, don’t waste time with it.

>> No.4418956

>>4418684
oh you are baiting ok

>> No.4418959
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4418959

please do this quick poll.

https://www.strawpoll.me/19517860

>> No.4418974

>>4418418
You need to start by drawing copies of drawings/photos. You need to start by looking at how existing images work before you'll be able to create your own images.
When you do draw from imagination, try sticking to simple cubes/cylinders/spheres for now until you can make those look convincing.

>> No.4418975

>>4418959
Fuck off faggot

>> No.4419003

>>4418926
Someone tell me if this anon is being sarcastic pls.
I have assburgers.

>> No.4419004

>>4418785
>If not, why all his books are available for free?
They aren't. You're literally breaking the law by downloading them. They are NOT in the public domain.

>> No.4419015

>>4418956
>rotate to use redlined vertical axis
>screencap literal first girl i saw in what i was reading
>chin, nose, lips, eyes, brow, hair all roughly line up
>muh real human proportions
>s-stop trolling
fuck off

>> No.4419029
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4419029

Mario is so hard to draw
Not to mention these short stubby limbs

>> No.4419067

>>4418312
So it's flat, well fuck me time to grind perspective

>> No.4419079

>>4418416
you need to improve your face game anon

>> No.4419082

>>4416913
>weeks later and still polishing this turd
gmi

>> No.4419085

>>4417496
is this charcoal?

>> No.4419132

>>4419082
what this is a different 2hu the last one was reimu. i gave up in the reimu one

>> No.4419161
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4419161

good lord this shit took me too long, its not the best but eh.

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4419177

>> No.4419263

>>4418418
Keep going, friend! I agree with the other guy saying you should try copying existing pictures for now. I would also add that you need to get comfortable with drawing more confident lines and circles, because yours look a bit shaky right now. Look up Lesson 1 on drawabox and do the homework from there. You might think those exercises are boring, but drawing loads of lines and ellipses will help you develop a solid foundation. It can be frustrating trying to learn how to construct heads when your lines and circles don't turn out the way you want them to. Good luck, you got this!

>> No.4419284

>>4419004
>literally breaking the law
They're copies of his books, not the real deal. What a delusional moralfag.

>> No.4419287

>>4419003
Correct, he's being sarcastic. Loomis is a good tool, but some people end up leaning way to hard on it. They lose all the life in the drawing. Use it moderately an grind.

>> No.4419289

>>4419161
Cute, but the shoulder is too low.

>> No.4419291
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4419291

do you gusy like this desing? i was triying to mix the nanosuit from crysis and the sisters of battle power armor, ill later try and do a version where she has a thing silk cloak ok, emulating the wet drapery technique in sculptures

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4419292

>>4419291
thin *

>> No.4419293
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4419293

>>4419292

>> No.4419295

>>4418736
aka 20 year olds but the have big saggy tits

>> No.4419325
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4419325

I've been analysing Vilppu's every move and I think my gesture has improved.

>> No.4419352
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4419352

heads pracc

>> No.4419361

>>4419352
its kinda good

>> No.4419364

>>4419325
post previous parctices, so we can see if youve improved or not

>> No.4419372

>>4419352
the ear sits behind the jaw, not in front of it

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4419379

tried to focus on proportion on these

>> No.4419385

>>4419364
I didn't think about saving my stuff until only recently. Usually I just open clip studio, draw stuff, and then close it without saving. Is that bad?

>> No.4419391

>>4419385
yeah, its pretty bad, its good saving what youve drawn to see if you are evolving or not, unless the work is extremely old i wouldnt do that

>> No.4419456
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4419456

figure pracc

>> No.4419495
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4419495

Just an ordinary drawing of a pomeranian. Used references for the clothing and gun.

>> No.4419516
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4419516

making coomerbait
how the fuck do I make the right leg look good here

>> No.4419530

How many hours should I draw a day so I can shitpost and play video games guilt-free afterwards?

>> No.4419540

>>4419530
Are you a neet?
Then 8 hours a day.
Do you have school/work?
Then drawing needs to be the only thing you do in your off time, otherwise you are ngmi.

>> No.4419544

>>4419516
study knee anatomy and orient the foot in the same direction as the rest fo the leg, then stop being a coomer

>> No.4419550

>>4419540
I have a do-nothing job where I have 5-6 hours to myself free to do whatever and then about 6 more when I get home.

>> No.4419555
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4419555

fellows pls help anatomy

>> No.4419558

How long does it take to go from absolute zero to this >>4416913

>> No.4419564
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4419564

>>4419555
when the calf id pushed that way is the interior part that bulges, not the exterior, also, her right boob needs some work, it shouldnt go under the arm that way unless shes extremely old, remeber that it attaches to the pectoral muscle slighly below the shoulder

>> No.4419565

>>4419558
a day

>> No.4419567

>>4419558
im guesing a couple of months, your short term objective should be something like this
>>4419456
>>4419379
>>4419352

>> No.4419568

>>4419558
Depends. How fast can you trace?

>> No.4419575

>>4419558
it took me 7 months from nothing. but i only started digital 1 month ago

>> No.4419576
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4419576

>>4415267
If I'm about to post that must mean it's time to start a new thread. Happens every time.

>> No.4419579
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4419579

>>4419565
>>4419567
>>4419568
Drawfags always misinterpret what "absolute zero" means , absolute zero means that i can't even replicate pic related properly

>> No.4419583

>>4419567
Holy shit, define "short term" before I off myself please

>> No.4419584

>>4419292
Looks very 3d I like it

>> No.4419590

>>4419583
6 months

>> No.4419595

>>4419579
i know, with well directed rigurous practice you can there pretty fast, its harder to draw from imagination tho, you need a bunch of years to become decent at that

>> No.4419597

>>4419567
>short term
we have reached advanced levels of crabbing

>> No.4419598

>>4419590
Thank god, I'm gonna power through Fun with a pencil and then probably Loomis's figure drawing book then

>> No.4419599
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4419599

aigmi

>> No.4419600

>>4419584
thanks! do you like the desing of her armor?

>> No.4419601

>>4418145
Broken spine

>> No.4419606

>>4419597
?? its good to have short term objectives, theyre easier to grasp and they give you a lot of motivation once you reach them

>> No.4419607

>>4419599
>sip
gmi

>> No.4419613

>>4419601
doenst really matter, ir follows the gesture, i like it

>> No.4419617

>>4419600
That hand is pretty wonky friendo. It looks OK but there isn't much there. Keep going.

>> No.4419621

>>4419613
If you're into dislocated pelvises.

>> No.4419623

>>4419617
yeah, i have some problems drawing hands that small

>> No.4419646

>>4419579
i know very well what absolute zero means
so learn to actually observe what's there and you'll outpace other beginners

>> No.4419657

>>4419646
this

>> No.4419667

>>4419579
I stand by my statement. It takes next to no talent to create >>4416913, so tracing the image would get you to where you want to be.

>> No.4419672

>>4419623
I bought a 12x18 sketch had at stop and shop for 3 dollars. Makes a world of difference.

>> No.4419675
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4419675

Taking a break from the loomis heads grind to make a lil study from a photo what do you think?

>> No.4419698

>>4419675
nice

>> No.4419726

>>4419675
better to learn how to draw hair quickly with your medium cus that shit's distracting

>> No.4419733

>>4419675
its kinda nice, gwt better at hair tho

>> No.4419755

>>4419516
is that shit coming out of her anus?

>> No.4419775
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>>4419726
>>4419733
Ok I cleaned it a bit is it better?

>> No.4419784
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>> No.4419786

>>4419775
it's much better
though you forgot lighting

>> No.4419798
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tried to draw head on top of skull. how did i do?

>> No.4419808

>>4419599
>unironically drawing loomis memefaces

>> No.4419813

Vilppu or loomis?

>> No.4419819

>>4419813
>not both
ngmi

>> No.4419821

>>4419813
vilppu is a finnish sounding name so the choice is obvious

>> No.4419823

>>4419808
building meme faces is unironically the most important part of fwap.

>> No.4419826

>>4419808
fuck you, it helps when you don't have any sense of facebuilding

>> No.4419829

>>4419755
its a tail

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>> No.4419860

>>4419813
Vilppu is a God, so Vilppu.

>> No.4419912

>>4419841
Is that a Rorschach test?

>> No.4419914

>>4415517
Don't give up anon, if you can get everything else, faces will come with enough work. Maybe try contrast exercises?

>> No.4419916
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4419916

>trys to come up with pose
>turns out garbage
everytime

>> No.4419923

>>4417127
I like the rendering. That said, what's underneath the render is nightmarish, maybe work on that for a while instead of rendering it through?

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Regardless of the terrible anatomy and features, is the gesture alright? I want to work on that first before moving on.

Is that a good Idea, or should I practice everything a little bit at once instead of focusing on a single concept at a time?

>> No.4419949

>>4419948
>>4419948

>> No.4419964

>>4419912
If you want it to be.

>> No.4419970

New thread
>>4419948
>>4419948
>>4419948

just to be clear

>> No.4420412
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>watch video on digitally painting
>artist says you need a lot of real life practice and studies to be able to understand how to paint skin
>Be a poor neet
Is it doable to just try to replicate photos? I’ve learned drawing the bodies with just photos in my pc screen, surely I can learn painting humans and environments from photos. Right?...

>> No.4421797

>>4419085
no just pencil