/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>4411947
I went from a shitty /beg/ to image on the left in 5 years.

>>4411947
From /beg/ to critic.

>>4411947
Is this the quintessential "front page pixiv" style?

>>4411968
kek, cope

I've been drawing everyday for a year and 2 months now
I really hope to have a better grasp on anatomy soon so that I can comfortably tackle rendering more along with more expression and cartooning. Fitting in gesture drawing every night now too even though I don't fully "get it" yet

>>4411988
Blog?

I haven't even been drawing for a year lmao

>>4411992
If you really wanna look. I'm pretty cringe

https://twitter.com/Katsunei

feels slow man
trying to push past low intermediate stage for a while now

>>4412002
What's the time gap for this one?

>>4411973
>cope
>>>/v/

>>4411947
Not much.

>>4412002
Is that the raccoon from happy tree friends? I swear i have seen that art before

>>4411947
FUCK ME!! It looks exactly the same - I’m sad now.

I found a ton of 2015:2020 drawing pairs that were really upsetting, but this one takes the cake. It’s essentially the same drawing from Jan 2015 (from ref, bottom) to Feb 2020 (from imagination, top).

I mean it’s about enjoying the journey right??? Ugh. Fuck. I gotta make some changes... fuck

>>4412036
Stop typing like a woman

>>4412011
2013-2019
embarrassing, I know. it's only been within the last 3 years that I've made any serious attempts to improve
>>4412027
it is just a random character I made a while ago

>>4412050
I don't even know any women who type like that.

>>4412050
That's how 30 year old boomers type, not women

>>4412085
Ok zoomer

>>4412036
The 2015 is super charming though, it looks like art from an early anime inspired web game. Really cute.

>>4412036
do more cute shit. Bottom one is kawaii

I've changed laterally, but I'm still not good enough for insane foreshortening

i want to become a pixivgod and draw and my age gap yuri porn but my mom keep watching me draw, fuck

really regret not drawing for 4.5 years when i look at it like this

>>4412266
Can you draw a cute witch so we can compare for sure

>>4411947
only been drawing for 8 or so months now but still want to show my progress

>>4412261
just draw it in front of her, she won't want to watch you do it next time.
I guarantee it.

Also try posting when you're not underaged

>>4412296
>Airplane fetish fag has been improving faster than you

>>4412287
closest thing ive done recently

>>4412309
That's super great anon! I love it. I hope you finish it or well. It is done, anyways. I'm saving it. You've improved so much for 4-5 years. Don't be so hard on yourself.

>>4412306
i'm not underage bro, i just don't want my mom to be disappointed

>>4411947
Everything i drew pre 2016 was actually mspaint scribbles

>>4412296
Youve gotten so much better than when I last saw you post in summer, damn. Too bad you draw fucking naked airplanes.

>>4412326
talented fag right here

>>4412326
That's like 3 weeks of improvement if you actually try.

>>4412339
kek no

>>4412345
I suppose
After 2017, i drew every couple weeks
Then in 2019 it was every couple months

>>4412345
Proof? Tell me how to improve that much in 3 weeks.

>>4412372
Feel the form.

>>4411988
>>4411997
that fucking faggot

>>4412036
the up looks cool pose and everything and its from imagination you definitely improved

dicks

>>4412296
how do you end up this way?

>>4412436
orenji?

>>4412326
if you're not mexican this is cultural appropriation and it is not okay.

Is it too late to start improving at 22 y/o? Most of the 'decent' artists I've spoke to always say they started drawing since kids, on my end I started taking art seriously very recently. I feel like I've wasted too much time in my life whenever I think about it

>>4412628
NO

>>4412628
Read the sticky

>>4412628
Yes actually, it's a good thing you asked for the 5th time. Scientists have been doing their research and discovered that it's literally impossible to learn how to draw if you are 22 years of age or older. Thinking about drawing instead of actually drawing will increase your chances of becoming an illustrator in the next life time

>>4411947
2017 vs 2020

>>4412652
Nice improvement

Could be worse

>>4412652
What was your blog again?

>>4412652
You’re an asian woman

>>4412668
>tfw no one will ever think you’re an asian woman from your art

>>4412628
i started at 21, you're 1 year late i'm sorry you can't make it anymore

>>4411947
shifting style and still having ZERO anatomy knowledge isnt improving. You wasted years on nothing

>>4412672
I think youre an asian woman bruh

>>4412678
1. That is clearly not OP
2. >Learning to color isn't improving

>>4412654
Thank's Anon!

>>4412657
@seesaw_yt

>>4412668
>>4412672
I am a black man.

>>4412678
Retard

>>4412691
lmao race faking

>>4412652
Fuck you

>>4412985
What did I do? :(

2 and a half year difference

>>4413155
Asuka looks a bit awkward, like her top and bottom half are in two different lightings

>>4411947
I got better at drawing from imagination and perspective and worse at everything else

>>4413155
did you put all your skill points into rendering

2013 vs 2018-2019 vs 2020. Slowly getting into drawing more humanoid figures. Not trying to become a coomerfaggot but I really enjoy drawing Chain Chomp Chan.

Do we have a "draw this again" kind of theme thread? I really enjoy revisiting to some of my old concepts and making new drawings of them.

I think this is maybe 17 years of difference. I was in school for the drawing on the left.

>>4413380
100% soul.

from /beg/ to even more /beg/ I don't even know how is that even possible

>>4411988
Did you start totally 1 year ago or was it always an activity but much more seldom with little improvement? In the latter right now.

>>4412307
ITS NOT FAIR

>>4413433
It wasn't always an activity at all before
I started from 0 and tried for a year or so many years ago, tried copying anime panels and stuff, went to digital pretty quick and quit when I got a job at walmart because I felt my art wasnt going anywhere because it wasnt. I refused to study real life or put in real practice, I'd just try drawing bodies without understanding anything

I'd much rather forget that time because it was wasted time. My anatomy always looked like pic related years ago, and it returned to look like this when I started again last year. All those wasted months did for me was help me learn paint tool sai a bit. I even moved onto csp last november
So to be completely honest
1 year or so of trying and learning nothing > quit for 5 years > returned to get gains for real with new mindset

>>4413472
good for you anon in all honesty

>>4413395
you probably listened to people in /beg/

>>4412296
Blog?

>>4412436
Sauce?

I feel like I could have (and probably should have) achieved way more in these 3 years. I wasted so much time and still can't escape /beg/.

>>4412307
>>4413463
<3
>>4412329
Lol thanks anon
>>4413513
https://www.furaffinity.net/user/noti21/
I also have a twitter but I havent started using it that much yet, when i finish coloring this current wip I'll post it there along with dripfeeding my older (crappier) stuff https://twitter.com/NotIlluminati20

>>4411947
is it just me or does 16 still look fairly close to 20 in some regard? there's drastic improvement in a lot of areas but at the same time not and i don't know how to describe it better.

>>4412261
Pass your pixiv

>>4412036
think of it like this anon. top was mind bottom was ref. that's a lot of mileage. besides i notice more emphasis on scale. also. the better the artist becomes i found the harder it is to improve even further. i don't know how true that is but i've seen this pattern with just about every professional i seen. improvement is always welcome but don't ignore what's already been spent.

>>4412266
your improvement was just 6 months?

>>4412002
Soul vs soulless

>>4412370
that explains it dw doing it more will make improving faster

>>4412326
>the gaping pussy on the 2017 one

>>4413822
Can't unsee

>>4412326
i cant tell whether this post is a joke or not

>>4413808
uh, any reason in particular that it seems that way

>>4412942
cope harder

>>4411947
lol her head is so fuckin small. I bet OP's image photobashed a body a drew a smaller head on top.

>>4412326
Took you 4 years to do a semi-decent linework of an anime character. No value or shading or shadows? No color?

NGMI galore.

>>4413569
are the tooth and face on different layers?

>>4413884
Yep.

>>4413884
How did you know?

>>4411947
Still have a lot to learn I guess...
But seeing the 2011 picture on the left of Pic Related sure makes me feel better about the present.

>>4413126
"fuck you" is a way to express admiration on /ic/

Idk its hard to say at this point

>>4413839
>>4413880
4 years of little to no practice
Post your work
Also, NGMI and all your other buzzwords and phrases have no meaning to someone that isn't retarded enough to do this as an actual career. Art is a hobby.

>>4413632
>furaffinity
Ah, damn it. I don't have an account

>>4412036
>FUCK ME!! It looks exactly the same - I’m sad now.
You're kidding, right? The top one looks way better than the bottom one. Not only did your marker game get significantly better, but you also made the upper one from imagination.

>>4414284
>y-yeah well I haven't even been trying for the past 4 years, I'm not retarded enough to actually try!

>>4415123
Post your work or shut the fuck up
I didnt know about loomis or form or whatever the fuck until i found this place in late 2017
I legitimately stopped drawing for most of 2019 to just play my switch all day
Literal 2-3 month gaps in between every few drawings
If I HAD been trying, every filthy canid on this board would be KNEELING and trembling in my prescence

>>4412266
>>4413804
before Oct 2019 my output was basically one or two drawings a month

heres a few of the 20~ pages from my 2017-2019 sketchbook

>>4412326
I think you're a troll, I don't believe that anyone can be this bad at drawing or this delusional.

>>4415247
Crabbing spotted.

>>4412326
I think you improved alot, anon. You are definitely getting into it so don´t give up and draw more.

Could've done much better desu

>>4415179
Stop making excuses for your shitty art.

>>4415248
Stop uploading bad drawings
Youve made betted than this
I have seen it

>>4415351
Im just telling it like it is
If i took this seriously, youd be seething at my superiority

>>4415356
Let anon try new things, it's better to go out of comfort zone and fail than to live in a bubbled skill ceiling

>>4413598
The fuck are you on about? You already past beg

Second one is still wip but it's my most recent drawing.

>>4415336
>Why you shouldn't do HRT

>>4411947
is it possible to go from left to right even if ur a complete retard?

I wish I improved creatively.

>>4415424
Blog? How do I get as good as you?

>>4415397
Possible, yes.
Probable, not so much.

>>4415429
I have no blog. Just study fundies and good artists, apply what you learned without using reference.

>>4415439
Thank you. I'll keep an eye out for you. I really like your artwork.

I learned how to make Caucasian characters look less Asian and I stopped skipping skin coloring because "there's so many shades I don't know which one to uuuuuuse"

>>4412070
>>4412002
looks like /co/-tan and you've been spending too much time on tumblr

I think i've gotten better, but I haven't had time to work on anything personal/SFW, so I've had to crop/edit the 2020 examples a bit.

from ages 15-16 to now 21

>>4415336
So, you've been listening to a lot of Tool and Slipknot lately?

>>4415506
The FFXIV community is a nice source of money

>>4415512
Funny enough, I went back to Slipknot these days, but back in 2014 I listened to it a lot more.

>>4413389
derp, I was directed from a different "improvement" thread and didn't read the op. Its sad because frankly my 5 years difference isn't very discernible.

>>4412266
not much of a difference.. try harder

>>4412296
you fucking horny bastard. I know who you are. fuck you and your slut planes, i hate you with every fiber of my being.

>>4415519
Oh for sure, I've already got a commission in queue with Tifa and Aerith. Sadly I don't know anything about FF at all, so I'm gonna have to do some research on their personalities and all that.

>>4415527
Consider making your character's eyes look more focused in one direction rather than looking daft

i dont have 5 years yet so its all my progress

>>4412002
I really like the drawing on the right

>>4412085
I am 30 something, but aren't baby boomers are like 60?

>>4412144
>>4412255
I don't draw cute things anymore, they would just come out ugly and under duress

>>4412429
>>4414445
>>4413798
I probably over reacted a bit, but when I flipped back through my sketchbook I was expecting to find unfinished potato sketches and compare it to a dramatically different completed drawing. 5 years is also a long time, all the good gains happened in the first 2yrs

>>4415248
>soulless vs even more soulless
getting closer to your goal

Favorites 2015 vs 2020...I feel good about where I'm at technique wise even though I know I have plenty of weaknesses I'm still working on, but i still constantly feel like I don't know what I'm doing or where I should be going lmao. I'm 24 by the way.

>>4415831
This is wonderful. What an excellent style.

>>4415831
Really love your style. Though I feel it's just begging for some subtle textures & overlays slapped on the whole finished illustration. Currently, it can be kind of jarring how something have texture (some rooftops, the mountains, etc.) while things like the pink monster and night sky are perfectly smooth.

Just a thought!

>>4415851
Thank you!!
>>4415867
Thank you haha, I do like to mix the flat colors with textures instead of having everything rendered but I see how it could be a little weird to look at! So thank you for the advice :)

>>4415439
>without using reference.
After how much practice?

>>4416026
seeing what you can do without reference should be part of practice.

>>4415391
Progynova is okay, it's the other brands that turn you into a sjw world hating hon.

>>4415739
>5 years is also a long time
And exactly the amount of time that I have spent being a NEET. Does anyone have some rope?
>all the good gains happened in the first 2yrs
Let's put it this way: How much longer are you gonna procrastinate on your perspective game instead of referencing scenes?

>>4415553
I like it even if other people won't.

>>4412436
Do you have a social media account?

>>4415739
you started at 25?

>>4416335
thanks anon

>>4411988
How did you learn to render? I've been drawing a bit longer and you're way better than me.

>>4413380
How was this done? Was it all digital?

>>4416329
I wish gains were linear, they seem asymptotic, but are probably more logarithmic

> procrastinate on your perspective game
It’s on my laundry list
>faces
>coloring
>anatomy
I lack discipline

>>4412261
is good bottom one

>>4412307
>>4413463
Honestly could be a great idea to draw fucking airplane girls
You can clearly see how easier it was for him to understanding construction by fucking drawing something where construction is key
fucking great development

>>4413849
>old good
>new bad

I didn't do much better since that 2018 pic. Starting to panic, getting to a point where "just drawing more" doesn't cut it anymore, I think. So it's time for me to actively study again.

>>4412036
The top is really amazing! Like what is there to even improve on? You should sell prints and etc

>>4417083
HAHAHAHAHAHA

Are you samefagging, or do you just have really shit taste?

>>4411947
I don't have pics from 5 years ago but my sketch game is getting better
Top pics all from 9 months ago literally I shit you not took 2 to 3 hours each
Currently I can do ones on the bottom in 35 to 40 minutes and my anatomy and posing is getting better.
Coloring still takes me too long so I am working on it

>>4412549
hello

>>4413518
me

>>4416444
https://twitter.com/wholesomeorenji

>>4417096
How do I draw appealing cute girls like you? Even if flawed, they feel so nice to look at.

>>4412296
Maybe I should start drawing my fetish so I'm actually inclined to improve like this crazy motherfucker.

>>4413880
>>4415123
>>4415351
pyw

>>4417096
They underage anon, what have you done, anon. Everyone here is on a list, anon.

>>4417221
I practice anatomy and now know how to draw more realistic shapes but I try to focus more on flow and form than absolute perfection with my drawings. I do a lot more 2 minute figure drawings and try to draw my framework for my sketches in 2 minutes so I don't overanalyze the pose and that makes it end up more natural.

Also another way my art has improved is I try to have defined silhouettes for my poses!
If you think your pose is uninteresting and lacks movement, try to think if you could tell what they were doing well if your drawing was only filled in black with a white background.

>>4417221
I practice anatomy and now know how to draw more realistic shapes but I try to focus more on flow and form than absolute perfection with my drawings. I do a lot more 2 minute figure drawings and try to draw my framework for my sketches in 2 minutes so I don't overanalyze the pose and that makes it end up more natural.

Also another way my art has improved is I try to have defined silhouettes for my poses!
If you think your pose is uninteresting and lacks movement, try to think if you could tell what they were doing well if your drawing was only filled in black with a white background.
>>4417280
We PEDO now
Honestly I could care less how young the characters I draw are, they lack the proportions of real people and so they can't be equated to looking at actual children or teens. I like small women regardless so I see them as being aged up or not underage in my art style

>>4416749
I wouldn't say I learned yet but I constantly experiment and go out of my comfort zone

>>4417292
This information was very useful. I will practice some more with your help. Thank you!

>>4416755
for that one it was done in an actual sketch book. I dug it out from my high school years so I can redraw stuff from it. The flat coloring are done digitally after scanning though.

>>4415546
Ah... to be honest, I think my own eyes are a bit "daft".

>>4417075
Turning into a render monkey. You're not very good at rendering though so you might still be able to come back.
You're covering fundamentals with color and shading. You draw just as bad as you did in 2017.
Nothing changed except that you render now.

From middle school to now, I eithe hadr worked on sketchbooks, watercolor, bootleg copics, or ms paint. I need to get into rendering more, but ms paint and watercolors are more applicable to me than Krita

>>4417491
What you need is get subscribed to NMA and watch Vilppu's courses on figure drawing. Or go to CGPeers if you have an account there.

>>4417491
yike

>>4417375
I like your linework and cel shading

Neck looks a little off, maybe see here?
Source is the mangamaterials mega pdf file that can be found in the artbook thread mega I think.

>>4414258
Nice work anon! Lots of progress

>>4413899
wow he looks so pretty with tooth head ^- ^

>>4415424
program?

>>4415506
you're allowed to post NSFW here

>>4415831
i prefer left

>>4417464
;_;

>>4417464
But dude, so rendering isn't important now? I didn't know that. Time to go back to black and white linearts or something. Now that's some good art. The guy in the OP is totally wrong too.

>>4417661
>But dude, so rendering isn't important now?
It is, that doesn't mean drawing isn't... Don't get prissy, he gave you good advice. And yeah the OP suffers from the same problem.

>>4417580
will do

>>4417668
I'm not exactly sure what the advice is here.
Spend less time rendering and focus on fundies? Sure, that makes perfect sense.
But if the advice is "forget about rendering" then sorry but I disagree.

>>4415303
So this is what having no beauty compass means... no matter how hard you try to copy whatever's labelled as beautiful, it simply doesn't click in your mind.

Scary shit, anon. Maybe switch your line of work to something more creative and less dependent on elegance.

>>4415376
>still wip
Remove that dick-shaped fold while you can, I know this is coomer shit but this is probably outside of your intentions.

>>4413569
Soul vs soulless

>>4417686
That's not a dick, it's a mons pubis my.... oh, I just saw what you were talking about. I totally didn't even notice I'd done that, thanks for the headsup.

>>4417678
The advice was you're polishing turds, stop polishing turds and learn to draw better. Idk how he could have been anymore clear.

>>4417678
>>4417721
While you're at it, draw something other than Kill la Kill with torpedo tits. Unless you cherry picked these for the comparison effect.

>>4417721
Most of the art I'm seeing on a daily basis are polished turds though. I'd still rather get into the habit of constantly trying to render better regardless since it's the most puzzling part for me (because you just know you'll get milage, anatomy etc over time anyway)
But anyhow thanks.
And the second pic isn't Kill la Kill.

>>4417678
Anon your drawings stayed stiff for several years and lack fundamental things that would improve them greatly. Progress only shows in your ability to render (which isnt exactly good)
You're getting constructive criticism here

>>4417761
>And the second pic isn't Kill la Kill
Another anon said that, not me.

>because you just know you'll get milage, anatomy etc over time anyway
Yet you've been taking this approach for three years without any real change in your drawing skills. Nobody is telling you not to render your pictures. We're saying rendered turds are still turds. If you wanna make better art, get better at drawing not rendering.

>it's the most puzzling part for me
Idk how that can be, since your rendering is miles better than your drawing.

>Most of the art I'm seeing on a daily basis are polished turds though.
Maybe try spending less time on deviantart. Just because other people are shit doesn't mean you should aspire to be shit. Aspire to be better than them.

>>4417797
It's really just criticism (which is absolutely fine but it barely help me, it's not like I don't realize how absolute crap my art is but I have no idea how to fix it)
>things that would improve them
Such as?
That's the thing here.

>>4417823
I'd be glad to be as good as them, but that's never ever going to happens, nevermind being better.

>>4417829
>but it barely help me, it's not like I don't realize how absolute crap my art is but I have no idea how to fix it
You were literally told specifically 5-6 times exactly what you need to do to improve... It's like you have some sort of mental barrier from. accepting good advice. I honestly feel like I'm speaking to some sort of android AI right now.

>>4417839
I'm not seeing any advices outside of "dude just draw better".

>>4417865
Someone said your drawings are stiff
Do you not know what this fucking means after so many years of art? Learn gesture.

>>4417868
Maybe Villpu will save me. I did made up my own way of doing gesture for a while and thought that was fine, but I guess it's fundamentally flawed.

>>4417865
Yeah, draw better. You were told to study the fundamentals and make better drawings before rendering. Why can't you accept the advice? You'll never make it if you can't take simple fucking criticism..

>>4415506
>footfag
Based

>>4411968
Yes

>>4411947
Only started painting in 2017 so I can only show the last 3 years. I mostly do character stuff

>>4413155
how do i render like you?

>>4417270
cope harder

>>4417096
did you do these in one layer? your wide angle foreshortening on the arms is crazy though

>>4412613
>>4417916

>>4417899
I wouldn't have been thankful if I couldn't take it, it's just that I legit didn't get what you meant.

>>4417615
Paintstorm.

>>4411947
given 5 years ago i was 13, i hope plenty

>>4412628
The best time for you to start drawing was when you were 10. Second best is right now faggot.

>>4412628
There's only one way to find out.

>>4412307
its because hes on the secret ic server

>>4417925
I do them in 2 or 3 layers just because it increases my speed a bit!
I do a super rough sketch on the bottom layer, the face and body on the 2nd layer, and then the 3rd layer is usually the hair.
>your wide angle foreshortening on the arms is crazy though
Yeahhhh if you are meaning that top middle one from 9 months ago I was really bad at perspective. I have improved a bit and that was a little overambitious

>>4417299
No problem! I'm glad that info could help, once I learned that way of thinking about it poses became so much easier.

>>4417925
I do them in 2 or 3 layers just because it increases my speed a bit!
I do a super rough sketch on the bottom layer, the face and body on the 2nd layer, and then the 3rd layer is usually the hair.
>your wide angle foreshortening on the arms is crazy though
Yeahhhh if you are meaning that top middle one from 9 months ago I was really bad at perspective. I have improved a bit and that was a little overambitious

I feel like my work has always leaned towards soulless

>>4417909
>>4418360
blogs?

>>4411992
>>4412657
>>4413513
>>4415429
>>4418464
Shut up

>>4412296
Absolute king

>>4418461
Add soul to your art study

some figgy niggys from 2017 when i started trying to get good, and now

getting more confident with drawing, but putting down colors is still something I struggle with a lot. after i do a sketch, i lose the will to continue it to completion. also wish I actually drew more during these 5 years

>>4412628
every year you dont start is another year wasted, very focussed people have made it in two years. Godspeed bucko

>>4412326
peaked at 2019. I see a downward trend here

>>4417267
this actually

>>4417375
It makes all the difference

Still /beg/ after all these years ;_;

>>4413808
Not really, the older one feels more mechanical while the new one genuinely has more life in it. You can see that the person put more passion behind it.

>>4412261
Same issue. I want to draw gesture shit, but my brothers and my parents walk in and out of my room like its a 7-11. And they get pissed when I lock it. Gonna have to start drawing in the early morning.

>>4412656
Could be way better also KEK

>>4417491
That hand is fucked, but I like the mspaint look. I'm biased though, so take that with a grain of salt.

Still /beg/ after all these years ;_;

>>4419316
It looks like you started getting some speed in 2018 but starting to slowly decline after. What happened?

>>4413380
>tit pockets

>>4419320
2018 is the time I got a tablet to draw on and I started having fun drawing again and learning shit. Before that I was just burnt out grinding fundies for years. After 2018 I started trying to draw without reference, something I rarely did before, which would probably explain the decline. Also started my first job around the end of 2019 so I haven't had much time to draw.

Went from traditional to digital and as you can see my beginnings were rough

>>4419431
Soul

>>4419431
You can make money out of your art already. GMI

>>4419466
Experienced are we?

>>4419431
OC niggas would pay for this shit

>>4419485
I’ll take it!

Got any critiques?

>>4419492
No neck, pelvis floating, symbol-drawing anatomy (clavicles).

>>4419492
Yes! Learn anatomy and gesture

>>4419498
33% accuracy nice

>>4419505
It's 100% accuracy. Get better eyes/brain.

>>4419509
Best I can give you is clavicles mate

>>4419513
If you think that pelvis/its connections are fine, I don't really care about your opinion honestly.
Learn anatomy and construction.

>>4419520
How would you do it?

>>4419316
I feel like I could be you if things hadn’t suddenly ‘clicked’ for me in 2017. I hope something like that happens to you anon, you deserve it

>>4419539
So you stopped drawing?

>>4419539
I hope so too.

>>4412036
I actually like the top one here

>>4415831
soul vs soul

>>4419524
>spoonfeed and do the work for me
Go to /beg/

>>4411988
That's a real shame if that's the best you can do
I've never drawn or studied, only read tons of comics and manga and watched videos about drawing and I am able to draw better anatomy, better lines, color and shades. I've only recently started to take things seriously and learn to fasten my workflow. Don't take this as a brag but a tip, you don't need to draw for years to get better, the most important part is to internalize and understand the concepts on how to draw, if you draw while listening to music or a podcast, this could have major hindrance on your learning, focusing 100% onto the thing you're drawing and imprinting the whole process to your head, your learning will skyrocket.

When I went to school I met this guy who had started drawing from the scratch, through one single year he went full autism mode on learning how to digitally paint, when we came across each other in school, we hit it off with our interest in video games, computer hardware and drawing, and holy fucking shit was he good at drawing, his digital painting skills were professional level only after 1 year of hardcore learning, his drawing process would take very little time to come up with something great but the polishing part could easily sink in days for a finished piece and it would elevate the drawings to masterful levels, he mainly explained that when drawing he wouldn't allow distractions near him and only focused on the drawing
he perfectly understood values, light sources and such and his only weakness was anatomy and I would often times help him with my understanding of anatomy, since I'm more focused on lineart than digital painting, we'd criticize each other's works, help each other to improve and feed off of each others strengths

but ignore the blogposting parts, read between the lines, you have much room to improve

>>4413910
not him but if you judge by the rest of the image, the teeth are not blended together with the image, almost feeling like they overlap the image, which they do, the left crooked tooth against the cheek is clearest indicator

>>4419647
I asked for critiques not "get good". Sorry i dont want surface level insight and actually want substance out of somone that apparently knows more than i do

>>4414258
your anatomy isn't very good, everything looks very stiff, your sketches aren't very dynamic, the painting/coloring part has improved significantly

This whole board is one big bait how can anyone know "the right way" when art is the most subjective thing there is. If you are a new artist please learn from professionals not armchair picassos

>>4415248
the picture on the right
I suppose her body isn't supposed to have atrophy on the left side of her body? The entire shoulder and arm, waistline, ribcage, boob and leg have shrunk, you need to work on your perspective and anatomy

>>4419652
That's an oddly long post directed at me considering how many others are here with various levels of progression.
I get that people are able to learn better and faster than me in the same time or less, but that doesn't really help my case at all. There are things I've been trying to wrap my head around daily, I even mentioned some of the stuff there. It'd be a miracle if I were able to practice something and have it stick in an instant. I do neglect mundane exercises like drawing a head 30 times on paper which hurts my learning so that's the price I pay for not following through 100% with the grind. Again, that was a very long and odd post. I would've appreciated if you posted your progression as well, that being the purpose of this thread of course. You can see two of my works above
>you have much room to improve
Believe me, I'm very aware. I see my flaws every time I finish a piece. I hope you weren't under the impression that I think I'm near a skilled artist's level

>>4419681
This is the wrong place to look for solid help i recommend reaching out to artist on twitter, people who don't want to tarnish their names for help. You can see there skill levels and know that the information is coming from someone who knows what they're doing. Dont give up.

>>4419681
You should find a friend with equal or better skills at drawing and teach each other, critique each other's work and such, it's very helpful when you can get honest opinions on something and being able to critique someone's work unhinged, has helped me and my friend a lot
also it motivates you to draw more

>>4419685
I'm not looking here for solid help dude
I didn't even imply this
>>4419690
Easier said than done. I have a few art friends but they are not as interested in learning as I am. Also, I am in a group where I can get unhinged critique so that's not even an issue. I don't rely on them for every single piece though

>>4419697
you don't have to actively look for help, your art in itself is a cry for help :^)
but on a serious note, not everyone here wants to see everyone and everything crash and burn, you have promise, keep at it

>>4419652
>Pro level in only a year
Calling bullshit

I started painting in 2015 so I figured this would be more accurate reflection.

>>4420028
This would be so good, but that haaaair

>>4420031
What's wrong with it?

>>4419458
>>4419466
>>4419485
Samefag? I am genuinely baffled if people think this is good

>>4420056
I didn't say it's good. I said OC niggas would pay for it.

>>4420036
Everything else in the painting is blotchy, then the hair comes in looking stringy. Stringy hair isn't good in just about any piece, but especially when the rest of the painting is circles with little detail, and the hair is over detailed

>>4420056
Those are all jabs retard you probably suck at art too we’re all insufferable cunts

>>4420056
Judging in a growth thread Wew lad high grade autism

Ive been drawing since 2015. I feel like i could have achieved so much more if i wasn't so lazy

I tried my best on the first but it's been a long time since I've actually tried anything since painted sketches, I don't actually know how a full effort thing would turn out by now

>>4420121
Don't be so hard on yourself dude, I think you made great progress

>>4412036
Reallly fig the first one. Don’t know what to tell you to improve on. I’m just learning my values and colors. I hate reading books so everything I’ve learned was from video.

>>4412266
I want to say that the man has no cheek bone on his left side of his face. The roundness of his ear bothers me. And learn to show expressions. Keep at it anon

>>4420121
You've come pretty far, but watch out for those proportions. The legs on those women are super long.

>>4415336
Literally shows how degenerate humans become as time passes by

>>4420190
Sometimes, money calls you.

>>4419314
At least you replied to it
Thank you

>>4420028
From soulless to cursed image with negative soul.

>>4415528
sorry to hear you say that i guess? lol
>>4420180
I did it in about 15 minutes as part of daily practice so i probably won't go back and touch it up, ill keep that in mind though

I've wanted to redo this for years, didn't think I would see much difference yet. So far I think the sketch is way better but I dread the color comparison. I know I've barely improved in that area.

>>4420404
Your linework has gotten a lot more confident. With some good painting/colouring skills down, you can really makes some good stuff I feel. You're gonna make it.

2015 vs 2019

>>4419652
>all this text and no artwork posted
kys, shitter until proven otherwise

>>4420619
> 5yr progress
> 2015-2019
The date say April 2018 - nigga pls

Cool lines

>>4420619
>2015: 5 minute piece
>2019: 10 minute piece
Put more effort, nigger.

>>4420647
It make sense if he didn't improve from 2018.

>>4420647
Yeah that was a mistake. I meant 2018

>>4411954
The majority of /ic/.

>>4420137
you are a fat woman

>>4417083
Interesting, how much would you pay for a print? Or the original?

>>4419561
>>4420172
Thanks, i was supposed to read that gurney book, but i never got to it. I hear it holds all the secrets, and I will become a master after reading it.

>>4420636
>this witty response and no artwork posted
kys, shitter until proven otherwise

>>4420688
>no u
im not the one bragging about my improvement in an improvement thread and posting nothing kek.

opinion discarded enjoy your larping

>>4420692
>wahh wahhh anyone mean to me is larping wahhh anyone better than me is shit wahh get out of my safe space
I thought the ngmi was just a meme but you're living it

*うるさい

>>4420619
*うるさい

>>4420704
I saw everything

NULL vs today

>>4420716
>actually read the sticky
gmi, look forward to seeing your work in the future

>>4420721
this post on 4chan made me more genuinely happy than anything that has happened in my life in the last 16 years

>>4420687
You could sell 4/6 postcards for $5 and 11x17 posters for $12 and make a deal if they buy 2 that they get them for $20, these are pretty common AA prices.
I think that your art style would look best on small to medium instead of large poster prints because the details in your work look better zoomed out than they would if you made them too giant.
I am not very good at pricing originals, especially with a full background if it is traditional art. I am a lot better with pricing digital non-physical art so I can't really say how much the original would be.
Good luck anon and I hope you make a lot more cool things and keep pushing!
Do you have a blog I could follow?

>>4420725

>>4420121
I love those current pics. What kind of practice did you do?

>>4420716
Kudos, I never managed to do the flipped Stravinsky.

>>4420665
skinnyfat, you are correct. realizing I accidentally made it so I've been drawing juggalos for 5 years is upsetting

>>4420716
reading the sticky... King shit

>>4420071
I don’t honestly see it but each to their own I guess. The hair is detailed because it’s the focal point and I don’t think it’s a bad thing.

>>4420121
Finna need your blog

>>4419652
Nice progress

>>4420028
good overall but the eyes on the right are very scary and ruin it, glazed over eyes make her look like a corpse

>>4420716
based and looks better than my horror show stravinsky. I have been drawing for life but never ever attempted to actually study and improve until a month ago

>>4414284
Thanks! Can people attest to dynamic sketching for anatomy improvement or literally just studying anatomy

>>4420733
Thanks for the tips! Thread hit bump limit, but here is blog >>4411753

>>4420699
stop being retarded >>4419652
>Don't take this as a brag but a tip, you don't need to draw for years to get better

look at this bitch talking shit, but nothing posted from him to this day, its obv to everyone that drawing takes time and this fucker is like "no bruh thats not the case im god damn amazing after reading manga and watching videos about drawing "
But he obv will just run away when someone ask for his work

>>4411947
2015-2018-2020

>>4420474
>With some good painting/colouring skills
Aye, there's the rub.
I'm working on coloring/rendering it right now, hoping it doesn't turn out like shit. Thank you though anon, I hope you're right.