/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>start despairing because no matter how hard I try, when I copy existing 2D chinese cartoons my copies are always off
>spend shitload of hours studying various construction methods in detail
>doesn't work

>look for videos of pros copying existing artwork
>they also get it fucking wrong
>they just adapt to their own mistakes in their copy so the final result still looks good and consistent

what the fuck /asg/ lied to me

HOLEEEE FUCK
the old thread just lasted 1 day? wtf happened

>>4411269
i wonder why threads get deleted anyway ?
I do not get it

>>4411267
ofcourse you have to learn to work around your mistakes.
why do you think most people tell you to not use ctrl-z or an eraser while studying?

>>4411267

>>spend shitload of hours studying various construction methods in detail
>>doesn't work

you never did sweety

>>4411273
I'm going to ask you to post your work and you're going to flee the thread.
Post your work.

Next time someone says construction didn't help them you better show those constructions as proof that you indeed worked on your constructions.

>>4411275

>>4411273
>>4411277
>reading comprehension
Of course construction helped me, but it didn't help me in getting perfect copies
Here's my last construction

>>4411271
I'm /beg/, I practice in pen. Either try to work around my mistakes or not worry and keep going and try to get the rest right accepting that part will suck. I feel like it's done me some good, got more time drawing in rather than erasing.

You could have used the last version at least.

>>4411280
Based and gmipilled.
See this, /ic/, this guy actually draws.
Why can't you people be more like this guy?

>>4411279
Wasn't talking to anyone in specific on this thread. It was mostly on the clusterfuck that happened on the last one.

Picture I posted elsewhere as well, I fucked up the eyes tho. She creeps me out because of it. I know I can at least draw a small town woman with a shitty job and no future.

>>4411279
YOU ARE DUMB YOU WILL NEVER GET PERFECT 1:1 COPIES WITH CONSTRUCTION UNLESS YOU ARE THE ARTIST ITSELF, YOU MORON

because you don't have the measures nor what the artist pick to left stylised, purposely wrong or not

Didn't realize a new thread was coming

>>4411290
s-stop yelling it me somebody in /asg/ told me that reference studies should be pretty much perfect

but yes I can't deny that I'm dumb

>>4411293
>copying=/=construction

>>4411293
You should always strife for it to be as close as possible.
Are you going to get 100% resemblance to the point of not being able to tell the difference between the original and the copy? Probably not.
But you should still try.

>>4411295
Construction is for people who have 0 visualization skills.
Copying is for people who aren't retarded.

>>4411299
>he will never draw anything new just a copy from someone else

sad and pathetic

>>4411267
/asg/ just told you to copy, they didn't say how.
I think that once you can hit a certain baseline level of accuracy then what you describe is a good thing to do. Improvising off your mistakes and making them work.

>>4411305
Please show us some of your amazingly original drawings then.
No one tell him that nothing is original and everything is derivative.

>>4411305
The purpose of copying is to build a visual library and use it to draw from imagination.
Reproducing the paintings of masters has been part of art training since forever.

>>4411305

>>4411292
>wild top contour with no cleavage
do you think this is a motherfucking game?

>>4411299
post your work then anon!

>>4411267
Took you long enough to realize that.

>>4411312
based

>>4411320
Forgive me. I need to up my knowledge on bobs

Took a break from loomis to draw this, howd i do?

>>4411388
Needs more loomis

>>4411388
Obviously very poorly.

tell me what I did the worst

fuck it I hate drawing people, I don't want to draw people, it's all I've done for 3 years because that was how I thought you get better at art
I'm going to delete all the figure drawing material from my computer and show hands or legs only from now on

how does one into drawing environments / mechanisms?
what books build on scott robertson?

>>4411467
I like it. I think the hands need the most work though. Feels too flat and the anatomy is off

>>4411467
the background is more appealing than the character. You should doing the character in a painterly style next time

>>4411467

>>4411489
pyw

>>4411467
if you're going for a flash paperdoll animation aesthetic on the arm pose then you nailed it.
if you intended it to look like there was depth or an actual arm cradle going on then you fucked up real bad.

>>4411481
If you want to be good at drawing people then draw people.
If you want to be good at drawing other things then draw other things.
It's very simple.

>>4411481
Post one of your drawings of a person

>>4411493
>>4411486
thank you, I definitely knew my depth on the arms was the most fucked up, especially the left arm.
>>4411488
I've been focusing on more painterly style lately so I wanted to do hard ink outlines as practice.

>>4411276
Tony Montana?
McLovin?
Pretty cool regardless.

>>4411467
I would say the hands and i feel like shes too close to the "camera"

been watching the hands course on nma. did i learn any stuff. no ref other than glancing at. my hand every so often

>>4411514
draw 50 more hands from reference and then draw one without

>>4411518
shit theyre that bad?

>>4411494
from imagination though, Like in figure drawing you're learning the aspects of anatomy / proportions/ gesture in order to draw from imagination
are there books similar but for aspects relating to environments and mechanisms which help you create better images from your imagination? something that builds from scott robertson

>>4411514
The ones on the left and bottom look good to me. The other one needs work

>>4411504
It was just some photo in Anatomy for Sculptors

>>4411467
Bad proportions and foreshortening of her right leg.

>>4411519
top left is the only good one, don't draw from imagination until you know the object in and out.

Then you can draw it from any angle

>>4411514
>>4411519
Not unsalvageable, but you need to be more careful with your lines.
The top right hand looks like a flat plane with fingers attached to it because the inside contours don't properly follow the form of the palm.
The other 2 look a bit better, except the proportions are off

Post references, faces or full figures

>>4411514
>did I learn any stuff
Why are you zoomers obsessed with instant feedback with every little thing you do?
Actually practice what you've learned thoroughly and then show us the result.

>>4411526
>>4411530
>>4411531
yeah i see it now. ill working at them and see how it goes. the top right i wanted to try extreme foreshortening but i see how the palm doesnt read very well

>>4411534
No u

>>4411537
>NOOOOO YOU HAVE TO PRACTICE FOR 500 HOURS BEFORE ASKING FOR FEEDBACK
Sounds like a great way to pick up bad habbits.

>>4411537
lol chill nigger i was just fluffing my post instead of just posting work and saying "crits pls"

Any advice on how to study folds in fabric I feel like i am just making a mess and not knowing where to stop(see base of dress).

Also this is my first time posting doodles so any roasts or advice on good construction methods would be appreciated.

>>4411548
You should work on your proportions first.

>>4411544
Everyone call tell when a drawing looks wrong, even non-artists. It's not hard. When you see a mistake you should try and fix it, that's how you avoid bad habits.
Contrary to how the OP says "post everything!", I don't think it's really healthy to use these threads for instant gratification on every little thing you do. They should mainly be for when you can see a weakness in a drawing but you don't know how to fix it. That's where other people can help.

>>4411558
>Contrary to how the OP says "post everything!", I don't think it's really healthy to use these threads for instant gratification on every little thing you do.
yes because so many people post their work in these threads...

ey?

>>4411514
>>4411547
you're only allowed to post again if you draw every hand in this book

>>4411581
>bridgman
lmao have fun drawing stone golem hands.

>>4411581
interesting i will check it out thanks

>>4411586
>>4411581
who i trust

>>4411552
I just want to understand folds better because i feel like I ruin studies the second zig zag or tubular folds show up without shading (which i suck at).

I will also start working at proportions more as well since I have been ignoring that, so thank you.

>>4411589
The bridgman stone golem stuff is just a meme.
He's actually a great artist to learn from.
Just make sure you get a good copy of his books, there are a few that are really poorly scanned.

Advice/thoughts on anatomy/technique? Kinda beggining to understand proportions and getting used to them.

>>4411276 his eyes remind me to the cover image of Madman's Tale

>>4411604

>>4411604
pic related is the only book anybody ever needs on anatomy

>>4411604

alright well i put more work in and if they still suck oh well ill just grind that book. so for the bottom im intending for the palm to be folding together with the fingers raised a little off the palm. its sort of hard to show

>>4411594
heading to the book thread now

>>4411604
>Advice/thoughts on anatomy/technique? Kinda beggining to understand proportions and getting used to them.
Technique looks fine but everything else is fucked.
Proportions are definitely the biggest issue though.

>>4411548
>>4411590
right now your basic anatomy is way off. Folds of clothing will be off too, as the key to clothing is understanding how it drapes over the naked form of your subject, so until you get the nude anatomy and perspective down at least decently, clothes will look wrong and discordant in relation to the figure.

>>4411604
relax

>>4411702
Jealous of you and your appealing drawings.

critique plz

>>4411702

>>4411710
His drawings are shit

>>4411745
why didn't you draw the titties?

Drew some skull statue. First time trying fold like stuff its hard. I think I should of hone darker on the values

What is your opinions ?

>>4411757
it feels like there's a blur on everything except the eyes

>>4411261
Just started the Vilppu head course, it's phenomenal, probably the best living art teacher. I will post results of the course in 2 months

>>4411760
I always get that, Wat doooo

Thoughts?

1 minute gesture practice

>>4411797

>>4411608
What's the name? Can't see it

>>4411615
>Technique looks fine
Thanks
>Proportions are definitely the biggest issue though
What would you like to be corrected in my drawing?

>>4411548
Okay don't want to fill up the thread with my trash, so for the study should I just start with 8 head measurement or is there something else I should be fixing.

AAAAAAAAA I FUCKING FEEL THE FORM WHAT THE FUCK
TO ANYONE WHO DOESN'T UNDERSTAND FEELING THE FORM GO WATCH THE VERY FIRST VIDEO OF VILPPU'S RENAISSANCE DRAWING, THE ORIGIN AND MAIN CONCEPT OF GESTURE AND GO TO ABOUT 38 MINUTES WHERE HE TALKS ABOUT THE DISTINCT HAND MOVEMENTS
IT'S ALL ABOUT THE INTERPLAY BETWEEN CROSS-CONTOUR AND BRACKETING AND THE MOST IMPORTANT PART IS THE FUCKING FOLLOW-THROUGH, THAT'S WHAT LETS YOU BUILD THE FORM AND F E E E E E L IT, YOU HAVE TO LITERALLY FEEL THE ENTIRE FORM EVEN IF YOU'RE ONLY DRAWING PART OF IT, IT'S NOT MUMBO-JUMBO IT'S A SPECIFIC MOTION AND THOUGHT PROCESS THAT HE SPECIFIES AND SHOWS YOU
I FIGURED OUT THE SECRET HAHAHAHAH NOW WE'RE ALL GONNA MAKE IT

>>4411781
Don't smudge all of your edges.
Just add some hard edges to your drawings to make it look more solid.

>>4411813
Hoarding Vilppu videos finally pays off

Vilppu's older courses are actually a lot better than his newest one on NMA.
I think he's finally starting to lose it.

>>4411830
Hard disagree, his renaissance head and figure videos are so much better than his old ones, like the old drawing manual videos.

>>4411785
Did you draw this with a crab claw?

>>4411815
I can't see how ff, redline plz?

>>4411878
There's nothing to redline.
Just stop making your edges blurry.
Whatever brush you're using has a soft edge. Use a hard edge brush instead.

ugh.. guys

>>4411890
So good, so jealous. Is drawing a natural ability in Polish blood?

>>4411890
Not bad Asukafag.
Now you should start focusing on cleaning your drawings up a bit. There are random lines everywhere.

>>4411890
thumbnail looks like futa

>>4411890
>spend time color and rendering
>Asukafag does just flats and it already looks better
Fuck

>>4411813
yeah, it's fucking wild isn't it?

>>4411889
Thanks am a beg and I use the airbrush and whenever I try harder brushes it looks wrong ?idk will work on it

>>4411813
Can you draw something and put arrows to show me the concept?

>>4411918
Seconding this
Show us your genius anon

how can i fix this painting?
mountain looks flat, whole thing looks flat

>>4411722
foreshortening is pretty crazy. From the breast upwards it seems ok but below that, things get very funky.The thighs in particular, especially the right thigh, are way off and the buttocks/vag look totally off in terms of 3D space.

>>4411586
Nigger.
Bridgman is ten times the artist you'll ever be.

>>4411929
Watch some Bob Ross

>>4411918
>>4411927
watch more vilppu.

>>4411757
>>4411781
>>4411916
adding more darks will help a ton even without hard brushes. It seems you want a very airy, light, pretty style but as other anon said everything but the eyes feel like they are obscured by a thick fog, I can barely tell at all that there is variation in shading of the hair, clothes, and skin. You can use better contrast and more dark but maintain the overall bright and fluffy quality you seem to want, try to experiment using darker shadows without compromising your style.

>>4411935
yes i've watched bob ross. trying different technique atm....

>>4411918
>>4411927
Just feel the form.

Recently started messing around in illustrator. I don't have a drawing tablet so I'm just working on understanding shapes while using my mouse. This is the 3rd thing I've done.

>>4411976
I like it, anon

How can I fix this?

>>4411950
Thankssss anons will try working on shadows

>>4411998
It's so spray painted there's no hard contrast anywhere, it's so pillow shaded I only get the impression that where shining a light on her and it's causing it to look super uncanny. I'd recommend you push those values much harder first and then try getting the soft contour values. The pink hair also blends way too much into the skin and at a distance it's hard to tell. I'd recommend either adding more hue to it or darkening it just a little; especially because skin tends to have a lot of pinks in it as well.

My advice is to dump the airbrush for a little bit and start using a semi-hard (about 80% hardness) round brush. Next I'd select the character; create a new layer; fill that with blue; and then set the layer to multiply. Mess with the opacity from there but at least make it look like a mid-upper mid tone. After that create a layer mask on this layer and use black to erase where you want the light.

>>4412024
Thanks for the detailed explanation bruh , noice exercise,

Ye I like pastels and pink so I gotta work with adding hue/darkening


why blue? I'll try tho is there any exact things I can look up for this?
>semi-hard (about 80% hardness) round brush
How do you get this on krita?


Ye im really beg

>>4411754
Looks good.

>>4411994
Make him shorter, and balder

>>4411773
Sweet kangaroo

>>4411994
What do you think is wrong with it?

how do i draw

and i dont mean the actual picture, i mean like how do i know what size brush to use in my drawing program?

how do i know how big to make the canvas?

which brush do i use?

shit like that. the set-up, i guess you could call it.

>>4411754
The folds on the torso area seem unnatural. They are either too straight or lack value. Really like the folds on the hood, especially at the very top

>>4412165
Unironically just b urself. For just starting out, default brushes are more than fine, dont fuck around with downloading 1000 brushes and shit. I usually start drawing on Tabloid size (11x17 in.) and crop accordingly as I draw, or leave it as such.

Has any of kim jung gi's sketch books been uploaded?

>>4412248
Check the artbook thread

>>4412184
Yeah i can tell i didnt show the values enough in those folds, so they look weird. Thanks

Are you liking the composition? I just drew the shooting girl, then I filled the rest of the page with the girl from The Ring.

Also I'M WORKING ON A FREAKING 16000 X 20000 CANVAS, I CAN FEEL THE POWER
I wanna render it as meticulously as possible for the next 24 hours, so you better tell me if I can improve something on the base drawing

>>4412298
Absolutely nothing, render it for 24 hours Ruan Jia.

>>4412191
i guess that makes sense. is there program you recommend?

someone on another board said to download Krita, which i did.

>>4412301
microsoft paint

>>4412299
forgot to post ref
working on hair, will post when again when its finished

>>4412105
thanks for the (you)

>>4412301
Just pirate photoshop, for it's flaws it's the most versatile and professional, and has a large array of plugins and shit. Also there is a vastly greater amount of tutorials and help in regards to Photoshop than any newer or just lesser used free/cheap programs. Google CCmaker and use that to pirate Adobe software easily and safely.

>>4411773
Hi proko

wtf does vipplu mean by feel the form and movement?

>>4412375
Read the sticky.

>>4411994
Jerma is too tall he needs to be his real height

>>4411929
anything?

>>4411312
Aren't you the obsessed one if you looked in the archives due to his reaction image?

>>4411929
atmospheric perspective

heres a sketch from imagination i tried to make the girl look bigge but im unsure about my. im pretty sure i fucked up the back somehow

Harem man of the Taimanin

>>4412401
thanks

>>4412465
You're that 2hu guy

>>4412481
Kinda cool style, reminds me a little of mission hill

>>4412488
yes i like bigge 2hus

I keep making things too small / too big / too fat / too thin and it's pissing me off.

So how does one actually go about getting followers and commissions? I’ve been using instagram and posting consistently for a few months. I guess /beg/ isn’t the best place to ask, but is anyone here semi-successful with instagram and willing to share some tips?

>>4412524
> be attractive
> don't be unattractive

>>4412098
>>4412380
An accident, I'll never do it again. Pic related.
>>4412138
The left arm bothers me, I feel like I dun goofed it real bad.

>>4412526
You post your face online? What are you, stupid?

>>4411309
damn, this makes sense

>>4411261
made w/ a mouse but i still think its kinda charming

>>4411278
The probability of a NGMI posting his work is 0. You don't draw, just admit it.

First go at digital, using Autodesk Sketchbook. Are the eyes too far apart?

So how do you apply the knowledge on perspective to drawing anything besides boxes?

Is there any way to improve this in terms of just using line? Or is this as far as line can go?

>>4412790
Or if you have any other suggestions, I'm kinda stuck at this point.

what think. airbrush only

>>4412771
cylinders

>I totally disagree with the standard convention, like using a circle for the side of the head, the Andrew Loomis stuff, go for the real thing
Based Vilppu.

>>4412248
is his style just straight up western comic book at this point? what about this looks like trad asian or manga at all? and if i drew eyes like that you guys would say i was symbol drawing.

>>4412811
In an interview he got this style by copying manga artists he liked.
It doesn't look western to me at all. Sure, he doesn't do anime eyes, but neither do a lot of mangaka.

>>4412813
he said*

Grinding with ashika's work

Good lord, so many hours just to "anime shade" the drawing. Now I don't feel like rendering and wasting all those lines, but I will

>>4412868
Girl in the bottom right looks appealing despite being wonky. Ganbatte, Anon.

>>4412859
This page gives me a bit of a headache.
Manga name?

>>4412874
FUTA X MEGA
shit is really hard even i got bit of knowledge and speed it will takes 5+ day (3-6hrs per day)

>>4412872
I couldn't create nor imagine anything good for the lower body but I'll take it

>>4412771
work out what you're trying to draw from front/side/top like in an engineering drawing.
put a box in perspective.
map things from your engineering drawing to the box.


or just wing it.

>>4412793
Nice start, have you rendered the hair yet? I’d like to see the finished product.

>>4412859
Based Loli studier

ehh

>>4412813
he doesn't do manga eyes, noses, mouths, ears, hair, head and body proportions, line work, ... like i said nothing. it looks like image comics. or dark horse or something

>>4411813
Vilppu is the only artist/teacher I feel a bit bad for pirating, because he's so good. And I've been hoarding well over 2 TB with dozens of teachers and courses.

since sqt is not present i'll just ask here
how do you get gud at simple cartoony shapes?
think genndy tartakovsky cartoons: simple straight and curved lines and very defined silhouettes

>>4411890

>>4413007
Fucking noise filter is hurting my eyes.

>>4411909
>Anon spends countless hours grinding Loomis, Vilppu, anatomy, perspective
>his drawings still look like shit
>Asukafag powers through with his retard strength
>already better than 75% of /ic/ and rapidly improving
Incredibly based

>>4413056
that ankle

>>4413131
>tfw there's autists even among the autists here

Not really a beginning in art but I am in spray painting
Any tips techniques or material list would be appreciated

>>4412976
Very soft I like :)

I need help with perspective im having a hard time trying to draw this and trying to do it on paper

>>4413056
Nice, but the hands and feet are bring the image down.

>>4413246

>>4413268
Holy shit thanks man

>>4413246
I have so many questions about this kind of building.

>>4412976
shouldn't the eyes be parallel to each other? still cute tho.

>>4413336

how to about giving this guy plate armor?

Redline plz bros

The anatomy is killing me

>>4413523
Your lines look like shit. I don't even want to redline. Work on pencil and paper for now or work specifically on improving your lines digitally

>>4413382
give him some pants

>>4413523
Sorry, but this is one of the cases where "it's not even good enough to redline" is actually true.
You're basically just asking someone to do the drawing for you.

here's something else what do u think guys
>>4412891
thank u Anon I was honestly just gonna leave it like that cause I have to idea how to do the hair lole
>>4413203
I really like these! but there's something about the lower face, I don't know if it's wrong cause as you can't see I'm not too good but I just think it could look nicer, but you're gmi

>>4413588
resize your shit idiot.

>>4412089
You use blue because it's a cool color that will compliment the warm mid-tones and because typically you'll have outdoor situations (at least with that kind of lighting) and the sky light influences the color of the shadows. Plus the hue shifting will make it more interesting/pleasing to look at.

Garou from opm. No reference

>>4413705
resize your shit idiot.

>Always wanted to draw but skipped art classes in school because I am autistic and didnt enjoy the teacher
>Try loomis as /ic/ recommends

Been drawing for like 3 hours now and I still can't draw like part 3 in this image.. This is the first fucking thing I'm asked to do and I cant do it. Is it supposed to take this long the first time?
I feel retarded and pathetic

>>4411467
you forgot to do the bachelor, now the faggots will sulk

seriously though, it's a fun image which could maybe do with the eyes being a bit smaller.

>>4413732
You might be retarded because you can't read. Read that last line on that image for me.

>>4413742
Thank you. I am genuinely obsessed with Pathologic and there is lots of material I want to draw, I really want to do Dankovsky and Burakh as well, and Aglaya Lilich.

>>4413732
>>4413732
Post work. Also, you’re doing fine anon. New shit is always hard.
Hes just adding basic shapes to symbolize the parts of the face. You did the second part, right? Just use those guides for placement and use basic geometric shapes to symbolize the nose, eyes, etc.
I think you’re overthinking things and frustrating yourself.

>>4413705
you planning to draw a chair for him to sit on?

>>4413705
what name would he give it

How do I stop over-thinking and learn to try to draw? I have a very hard time starting. When I do I am too harsh on myself and then I lose the drive and do something else. How do I enjoy drawing even if I'm unhappy with what I draw?

>>4413794
KEK

>>4411261

Thoughs?
(yes I know the image is shit, my printer isn't working)

>>4413820
Thats something you’ll have to figure out yourself. I dont know you so I cant give you specific things that may help.
If I’m in a mood of hating my work before I even start, I just use construction to copy shit I like. That way I’m actually drawing and not getting hung up on my own work being shit, and still making some gains. So, if that works for you, do it.
I’ve noticed if I try to focus on too many things at once I get frustrated. So maybe try focusing on a specific part, like coloring, or arm muscles, and getting decent at those. Slowly expand to the torso, and neck, and head over time.
You just have to accept you are bad and will be bad for a long time. If thats too demotivating, compare old art to current art. You’ll see definite improvement.

>>4412807
source for pic plz?

>>4413820
don't be too hard on yourself grinding Loomis and anatomy all day, take a break and draw something fun like a silly/cute cartoon or copy a drawing of one of your favorite characters.

>>4413794

>>4413732
Just make a few of your own and move on
You're not supposed to spend hours on a page according to Loomis

Copying Dorohedoro

>>4413917
Did that guy just get killed. Damn.

>>4413794
"the shitter"

>>4413794

Taking the plunge into painting

jesus, you can't really comprehend how good vilppu is at drawing until you do the timed assignments in the NMA course and then watch him draw the same thing. he's elder god virtuoso-tier and he makes it look so easy

>>4413964
yeah thats why i pirate it and seed'd 24/7 for other fellow pirateCHADS!!!!!!!!!!!!1

>>4412868
Looking back on this I don't even know how to make it look better with full colors and background, too bloated.
I'll just make a small animation with those colored lines

>>4413853
Looks like an edit of that rotoscoped anime

ughh... bros?

>>4412790
>>4412792
" is this as far as line can go? "

What a fucking ego on you

>>4413958
not bad but your proportions are off. the hair is very big and the cheeks are very big and her eyes nose and mouth are small compared to the photo but i think your values are good.

>>4414050
the diameter of the forearm is longer than the entire bicepy.arm pit is going to the middle of the bicep. rib cage is tiny compared to ass and leg size. hands are huge for a female. jawline is awkward. cant see the other arm. start with those.

>>4414157
thank you very much this is the critique i always wanted

>>4414051
/beg/ hit their limit all the time. Show him how it's not.

i am so fucking bad at picking colors. just guessing at the colors i see doesnt wokr at all

Serious critique

Where’s the best video course to turn to so I can learn anatomy and figure from imagination?

>>4412790
Several things can be improved, no you haven't reached the peak of line work lol. I know it's tempting for beginners to want to hide flaws and their shortcomings with values and rendering, but this does not mean by any definition that it's as far as line can go. Read the fucking sticky

>>4413853
its an edit of prison school

I cant get more far from this point, I've grinded enough /beg/ ?

>>4413958
Pretty good to start anon, try to unify your values into bigger shapes eg that large shadow down the side of her face down the neck, crunch that into one value and refine it within a smaller range later. Hair is a trap, try not to think about it as strands but large masses, you can detail later if you want. Simplify shapes

how do I draw lines that are symmetrical? Every time I flip the canvas It looks all wonky.

>>4414168
i believe in you asuka poster

>>4414294
draw with the canvas flipped.

>>4414182
try with black and white then you can colorize your black and white picture after. i think youre trying to run before you can walk.

>>4414319

I rarely paint
Contrast is not that great
Pretty messy over all
How else can I improve
Feel free to be ruthless

>>4411604
Where are her side boobs? There's no girth whatsoever, just flat. Right now she has the torso of an ugly bastard from a rape doujin, you might as well draw in some chest hair.
Also the arm on her waist is so short it makes her look like a T-rex. Fix those things and like >>4411615 said you should go back to work on proportions before doing anything from imagination

>>4414191
Eyes on the pink hair woman have a weird shape. The left eye is droopier than the right. Tear ducts do not have the fleshy pink bits in the inner corner like true eyes do.
Your range of color is excellent. Your use of the black line really hurts the piece and placement is not effective, use it more sparingly like Tell Tale art studios.

Baby's fingers are very awkward.

The environment is boring also what is going on with the chandler thing? The story is confusing behind this picture. I'm not sure if the woman in the background is laughing out of spite.

>>4413917
This is okay but a bad piece for practice imo
The upper portion of the drawing is difficult to understand and it's apparent that you think that too given how minimal effort you put into translating that into your drawing.
There are a TON of bold quick action lines and cross hatching in this piece and you are not even bothering trying to ink or shade like the original.
Your proportions are larger as well, so relate your shapes to one another better next time.

>>4413828
be more deliberate in your shading, the figure is decent but boring and sloppy cross hatching really looses my interest and its instantly forget-able.

What order should I read the Loomis books in? Or at the very least where do I go after fun with a pencil

>>4414468
Order of release clearly.

after trying CSP

>>4411929

keep working. Youre laying the foundation now.

Try mixing in some dulling colors to add atmosphere between the point of view and the subject being painted.

The farther something is away, the more it will appear blueish grey, because of the atmostphere effect. This is very subtle until a certain point though.

>>4414478
fuck, it reply without text

after trying CSP, i now realize Krita is a piece of shit on doing anything other than sketches

the shortcut that CSP have boost your time doing everything

cant decide whether to have a tent and campfire or someone hiking

>>4414536
make it water and make it a boat approaching the land in the distance

>>4414051
>>4414229
I meant that I don't know how else to use line in my case, not that it was the best line work ever. If I had an ego I wouldn't be in fucking /beg/. I wish someone would reply with something constructive.

>>4414501
Blog?

>>4414402
>unironically telling someone to emulate Telltale

>>4414182
Learn to grayscale first.

I'm new

>>4414652
its a copy too. ass.

>>4413794
AHHHHHHHH GKMDJSIK JKLLMAOBLMAILM

any suggestions to make this more interesting? her right arm is suppose to be doing a peace sign or something but i suck ass at forearms (and hands)

>>4414659
If you don’t plan to play with perspective or extreme foreshortening, maybe have her other arm tipping her hat down a bit over her eyes? Maybe imply wind and have her hair and part of her hat being pushed to the side.

Been drawing for 3 months now. Am I doing alright? Practice has slowed down because of the end of term and working full time.

>>4414665
i had something like this in mind (drew it quickly to give an idea). no extreme foreshortening.. picture's intended to be simple because it's for a friend. but i'm having trouble with this arm and just trying to special it up that it's causing more stress than it should

Okay, so my copies are about as awful as my construction drawings. But I heard this is one of the best ways to improve if you want to draw anime, so I'll give it a shot. I have some major problems with hair and eyes, copying random characters until I get a sample of popular hairstyles should help with that.

Also, stupid question. What is the best brush to shade/color with in Krita? I've been using the airbrush and the basic 5 ink brush, but they don't look quite right. Is it another thing that comes with practice, or am I just using the wrong tool to start with?

>>4414698
I don’t think you need to stress over it. Im sure your friend will be happy with it no matter how simple or exaggerated the pose is.
Maybe bring the elbow back a bit so part of the arm is blocked by her side? Like if you bent your forearm 90 degrees and just had her making the peace sign.

>>4414727
The inital sketch I did was really pleasant so I'm a bit more confident. If I could ask, can you draw over it? Gives me a better idea. My friend's also a much better artist than me so I want to do my best. Thanks for the kind comments, though.

>>4414729
Your ability is above mine, so I think I’d make it look worse if I did.
Pic related is close to what I mean. Basically the elbow shoved back a bit and the hand being close to the chest. I don’t know how good it would look from a 3/4 angle but its worth a shot.

>>4414744
For a real person posing

old drawing of saike

>>4414150
>>4414286
I see. Thanks. I'll practice some things then give it another shot in a few days.

I liked this but I wanted to do more.
I closed the file after 12 hours without saving so it's just 1 punch and a shot though in movement it looks like 2.
Also there's a lot of quality loss to be able to post it here

What sorts of shapes do you guys like to use to construct the pelvis? I don't like just using plain boxes, I like to use something that's at least a little closer to the actual body parts. Are there any artists you drew inspiration from here?
Or should I not even think of the pelvis as its own entity and just think of it as the legs + buttocks?

are there any significant problems before i add the face and start trying to render?

>>4415131
Clothing folds need some work.

>>4415042
Get their bones structures, make those a lot easier to understand. Simple way is using Megaman's shape.

FYI this thread will teach you how to be garbage

>>4415184
which thred will teach me to be gud then???

Eh, this was fun to draw

>>4414701
where are your fingers

how to improve?

new thread
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>>4413794
Oh you motherfucker kek

>>4414587
I post my scribbles on Twitter. dug2k2. Guess I might start a drawing dump blog idk

>>4413794
You glorious bastard kek

One thing I found that's really helped me improve a lot is be a lot loose when doing the initial layin/sketch

In other words, be loose with my arm movement, and let the pencil do the work when blocking it in; it helps with the gesture and once you get something resembling what you want, go in with thicker lines/and or rulers/guides to straighten and clean things out

Trying to figure out digital

>>4411299
you're a retard and you're actively spreading misinformation. get the fuck out of this thread

I need some advice on the colours for this. Should I do his cape green with dark green shading, green with hard black shading like on his body, or leave the cape white and do grey shading or hard black shading? I'm open to other colour suggestions. My knowledge of colour theory is piss poor. Also I know the shine on his armour isn't great.
Figure done without a reference. I tried to stylise it with pointier anatomy and slightly exaggerated proportions.