/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>4409443
Reminder to read the sticky.
>So you want to draw?
>Young and old, smart and dumb, able-bodied or paralyzed, everyone can learn to draw. Drawing is a skill that takes years to master, and "talent" is nearly irrelevant when factoring in time and effort. So how do we start learning? By getting rid of bad habits, then learning the fundamentals. The first yet biggest bad habit is symbol drawing. Let’s cover it.

Still grinding loomis head, do you see any recurring mistake ?

why do I get this on krita¿

uh

>>4409467
>>4409443
acccept LOOMIS as your true savior or die

>>4409467
Blog?

>>4409474
>>4409467 is already more appealing to look at than >>4409449

dont paint hardly ever any suggestions

>>4409480
How to gain appeal like this?

>>4409452
Try asking on their forums, might be a bug on the program.

>>4409483
By being a one trick pony, you don't want to do that unless want to keep drawing as a hobby only.

>>4409483
Just Draw.
Copy good artists.

>>4409481
1; dont paint zoomed in
2; work big to small

>>4409486
cope

>>4409480
UGHH...... i will take the loomis heads although they are copies but this.....>>4409467


YIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIKE
S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111

>>4409467
give me your fucking blog or i will shoot this thread up.

>>4409494
>the red line is worse than the drawing
Every time.

>>4409494
LMAMAOAOKAJAIANBAUBAJABHABGAUJA LOLOALLAK

>>4409496
It wasn't a redline just tracing over his retarded anatomy but i totally agree that drawing is terrible

lmao

>>4409495
>>4409477
https://twitter.com/wtnbbkk/status/1234143251164057601?s=20

>>4409494
OH NO NO NO NO NO HE WAS SYMBOL DRAWINGS BUT MUH ANIMEEEEEEEEEEE
BROSSS??


BROS??

PFFHAHAHAHHAHAA

>>4409494
Yikeserino a drawing in /beg/ has mistakes.
Who could have predicted this.
Weebs on suicide watch.

>>4409494

>>4409499
>>4409501
>>4409502
>>4409504
anatomyfags were a mistake
never gonna make it

>>4409494
jesus

>>4409505
>anatomyfags were a mistake
>never gonna make it

>>4409507
>>4409467

>>4409499
>scribbles a bunch of random shit
>"I was just pretending to be retarded, amirite my fellow drawchads"
Every time.

I went to get a burger hoping to see useful critique about my poorly drawned loomis' head but instead it's just shitposting about anime vs anatomy, please help me.

>>4409512
>seething this much

>>4409513
Lips are fucked up on upper left head and upper right.
I think if you want to understand values better then pencil and paper is a better and more intuitive learning too than digital, but ymmv.

>>4409513
Clean your lines, so your brain doesn't pick the good lines for you and ignore the bad.

>>4409494
Unironically didn't even notice this, is this what soul is able to do to a picture?

Anyone else not even draw but chill out here critiquing?

>>4409523
You are subhuman.

>>4409446
i did. It doesnt mention the fact that this thread is a honeypot for autistic people and people who actually want to improve shouldnt post here.

>>4409519
>>4409520
thanks a lot guys, I'll try to clean my line, and I do struggle a lot when drawing lips, I erase them like ten times and they are still shit ( maybe I shouldn't erase and move I don't know).
I will stick to pencil, this a study I make something like 6 month ago when I had no art supplies (not even a pencil and a sheet of paper but I did grab my laptop and the old bamboo that I never used in 10 years) after moving in a new appartement.

>>4409499
you realize the derpiness of the drawing is what makes it cute right? making it have correct anatomy loses the appeal.

>>4409521
nah if you are too beg you wont notice even simple proportion stuff not even anatomywise

>>4409535
>moving goal post
>well it's badly drawn but it's part of his charm

>>4409533
>this thread
>implying /ic/ itself isn't the containment zone

>>4409535
>loses the appeal
Even a block with two eyes while blushing has its appeal to minecraft fags, bad anatomy is still bad.

>>4409535
if you like shit that's subjetive, that drawing has flawed anatomy beyond /beg/ and that's objective, nobody is arguing if you should hate it or not.

>>4409541
>>4409543
>>4409546
Post your work

Less talking, more drawing.

>>4409549
>/ic/ laws , as an argument is lost the probability of a NGMI asking PYW approachs 1

>>4409542
now youre just being pessimistic. /ic/ is a good board, if you filter the right things

>want to practice drawing
>start worrying that I am not practicing as efficiently as possible and that I am just wasting my time
>end up not drawing anything at all

>>4409549
That shit is trash

>>4409549
>

>>4409562
Fuck i forgot to attach my work
Your shit is still trash desu

>>4409519
>>4409520
Ok thanks it seems like there is some improvement following your advices.

>every fundiesfag in this thread right now

>>4409560
Only /ic/ makes you feel like you're not improving efficiently enough. Leave this place and you'll be saved.

>>4409538
>nah if you are too beg you wont notice even simple proportion stuff not even anatomywise

>>4409569
Pretty good Anon. Is this referenced or from imagination? Make sure you're doing both kinds of drawing.

>>4409513
Work on drawing. You have to learn to crawl before you walk. I don't think you're ready for value studies. It's too messy.

>>4409538
This is literally the dumbest and most delusional thing that gets repeated on this board.
EVERYONE can tell when a drawing looks off. Everyone call tell bad DA art apart from professional art. Everyone laughed at that woman who tried to restore that painting of Jesus and made it look like a monkey. Identifying bad art is not hard. Knowing how tocorrect it is another matter.

>>4409566
>pic
Is this meant to be a troll?

>>4409580
This is not helpful.

>>4409580
This sort of shit advice is why newcomers give up drawing after a day.
>no you are NOT ALLOWED to draw what you want, you need to grind perfect straight lines first!
balancing fundamental exercises with just drawing things you want is the key to successful learning.

>>4409577
This is a reproduction from loomis, I posted head done from imagination on earlier thread here they are again:

>>4409566
Dunning /beg/gar syndrome. You’re even worse then him and Mikufag yet you’re too scared to admit it.
>>4409583
Sadly no.

>Replying to dbz spics

ok now bros
what about this one

>>4409443
How do I blend my colors more naturally? I'm using Autodesk Sketchbook if that helps.

>>4409614
That's super good, now color it with good values and it would be nice enough to post on twitter.

Imma be drawing Taimanin Asagi

>>4409619
>just as good as the original
You're so good, jealous.

>>4409614
she looks like a bat, but even with those stranges proportions this has a lot of soul (in a good way).

>>4409614
Show the right ass cheek between the legs.

with asuka

>>4409614
I dig the creepy look, eyes, and weird proportions. Reminds me of mannerist paintings.

>>4409513
simplify

Trying to memorize the planes of the head, but I'm confused why people draw them different
Does it even matter which one I learn?

We're gonna draw ol Hanako-kun

>>4409658
>>4409580
>>4409577

Ok thanks for the advice Im being tired of redrawing loomis plate for today

Pic related is done from imagination a minute ago I think I actually see improvement.

>>4409660
A)They’re not that different from each other
B) planes vary based on age, race, gender, etc.
C) ts good to learn them all as to get a better understanding of the similarities and planes as a whole and to add what you like to your drawing.

>>4409605
>>4409583
Oh yes
A 3 min pen sketch looks bad so what
Still better than your trash
And to prove im better, ill redraw that shit scribble that the other retard made

>>4409723
Also, i used no construction

>>4409734
>Also, i used no construction

posted in the other thread last night, Ive never used loomis any other fundies, I just copied kubo over and over again for a week. I was able to draw this without a reference. Copying works guys

>>4409743
Please go back to /asg/ you are no /beg/

>>4409700
Ok some self correcting what do you think?

>>4409748
I've only been drawing for 2 months. I am a /beg/

>>4409743
GMI if you actually study now.

>>4409758
>I've only been drawing for 2 months
and it shows please study some LOOMIS, so you can fix those proportions

>>4409660
Should one even bother learning the planes when you could just memorize the Reilly rhythms?

>>4409781
Ahahahahaha no one in this thread can post ANYTHING as good as that.
Cope harder.

>>4409798
not him but that guy who post timestamps on his drawings draws far better than 99.99% of ic look it up on the archives

>>4409781
he probably draws better than you. I haven't seen a /beg/ here draw close to that level yet kek

NSFW here some trannie monhun trash art

>>4409810
why is the resolution so fucking low

>>4409743
now draw a kangaroo from imagination
:)

>>4409817
Draw your own fucking kangaroo

>>4409815
Bad net keep failing on me

>>4409743
>want to take the copypill
>can't in to digital
>don't want to leave a massive paper trail of wildly degenerate hentai copies
fundies it is then

>>4409820

>>4409821
her dick or whatever that thing is is way too off center and her leg is lacks form onthe hip it looks like it fused with her waist and never draw pepperoni nipples the nipples have some mass, and the thumb on that hands needs a lot of work look yours, her forearm has not form you can't tell if she has an elbow, and her neck is too large for that angle.

>>4409743
>>4409798
>>4409803
Go back to /asg/, we don’t want your pure autism to infect this thread.

>>4409837
This is why I love /ic/

>>4409837

Rate my first attempt of full face drawing, my dudes.

>>4409841
Oh no people are bringing good art to the thread what ever are we going to do.
Quick go back to posting unfinished sketches of floating body parts.

>>4409849
Pyw

>>4409723
>>4409734
Quick question, do you legitimately have autism? I’m not being ironic.

>>4409847
How about you read the OP and resize your picture, fucking retard.

Only been drawing for about 7 months. Still working on anatomy. I tried painting the background for the first time. What can i do to help learn anatony more.

>>4409869

>>4409869
Copy anime or cartoons.

>>4409491
Thanks
Deff felt like I was getting diminishing returns with all the detail close up for nothing

>>4409821
This is pretty good, you got a blog?

>>4409866
Dont be mad, fag

Is Tumblr unironically a better place than this shithole? I need to fucking move to somewhere more active and less full of autistic discord faggot retards

>>4409614
I feel that the pelvis is too small for the thigh, but if it is intentional you can say it is your style.

>>4409894
Tumblr’s deader then dead after they pulled that porn nuke bullshit.

>>4409887
No, do people really risk sharing their blog in here?

>>4409898
How is there no viable art community in 2020? This dead board can't possibly be the last frontier.

So first impressions using the cintiq 16

Drawing on a graphics tablet isn't any harder than on paper if you aren't a retard with computers
plus it comes with the obvious advantages

so now I don't get why beginners are told to stick to pen & paper

>>4409894
To a certain extent, yes? Artwise? Oh definitely.

>>4409894
Try pixiv, it got a good English support now and allows everything in there.

>>4409901
They do, when they either have nothing going for them/hobbyist or a porn artist.

>>4409904
Cheap and beginners might give up 1 week/month later.

>>4409743
If not by the hand. It would be so much better.

i was more into im@s

>>4409743
So what's your copying process?

Do you just start with significant lines and estimate lengths and proportions of these lines, or are you starting with basic shapes like circles and rectangles

>>4409906
isnt that place exclusively for anime/manga/cartoon shit?

imma try to draw more but i also wanna go outside

>>4409933
Keep those proportions in mind anon!

>>4409928
Mostly yes, but there are some people who focus on landscapes, mechas, beetles/insects, traditional painting, anime backgrounds. One downside to the site is its search, you need to know your japanese and kanjis.

>>4409781
>please study some LOOMIS, so you can fix those proportions
like I said I don't need LOOMIS, and I like those proportions since they match kubos style which I'm trying to mimic.

>>4409798
based thank you

>>4409817
I have a drawing of a dog if you'd like to see that.

>>4409823
copypill works best when you learn to draw with a pencil first, then you can move on to digital much easier.

>>4409841
again, cope as much as you'd like. Some of us can learn to draw with loomis.

>>4409921
I would do like 15-20 drawings a day, just pure copying and every other day I would try to draw from memory. I broke my leg so I was basically home all week, drawing 10-12 hours a day. I'm lucky to have Kubo's new artbook with me which helped challenge me and showed me his sketching process.

>>4409847
focal length fuckery/10
features shouldn't be taking up that much real estate on a head

>>4409443

nice bait.
https://matome.naver.jp/odai/2134866639826102101

bones

>>4409743

>>4409977
>>4409743

>>4409977
man fuck you

>>4409593
>>4409596
but you need a foundation to build on. just learn to draw with pencil. then you can experiment later.

>>4409977
Nice, /asg/ gonna be seething after this, holy kek.

>>4409986
/asg/ never stops seething

>>4409977
>https://matome.naver.jp/odai/2134866639826102101
Dreams were shattered.

>>4409977
Holy shit thanks for exposing that piece of shit and securing my place as best artist here
I was actually feeling a bit intimidated

is there any guide to modify proportions of a figure. Like if i wanted to make bigger height wise or like bigger in 'better' areas.

>>4409977
Loomis lives another day.

>>4409743
>>4409977
Fundies Chads win again

>>4409977
Imagine not propelling this autism into drawing instead

>>4410010
Anon's lost time on practice won't be in vain

>>4409956
Is it just the left arm? Or I messed up somewhere else?

>>4409999
the quads of smugness.

>>4410005
loomis

crash

>>4409999
Based gokuchad

>>4410005
just draw the titties as big as you want them anon. you don't need a guide for that.

>>4409999
>/beg/
>best artist
lul no, nice quads however

>>4409977
Yep, I'm mad.
I thought about calling him out when he said "I've been drawing for 2 months" but I didn't.

>>4409977
In spite of this guy being a massive faggot, I still think that copying artists you like is good advice. Most good artists seem to say it was a big part of their foundation.

>>4410069
Copying artist you like is only used as a style development.

im sorry i got carried away

>>4410117
i don't understand

>>4410120
Wtf asuka poster
>>4410121
If you want a certain style, you either copy or trace artist that you like artwork.

>>4410124
i can copy???

>>4409953
Draw outside

don't copy, analyze.

hewowo

No reberense elf bidch :--D

>>4410261
FBI? Yeah, we might have something in here. No, it's not that explicit, oh... Ok.
You are okay for now anon.

>>4410261
The back of her head seems a tad big.

How’d I do guys? Any tips?

how do i get better at drawing curly hair?

>>4410318
Draw a circle then a line from one of the points. Then draw the hair inside that circle in a loop.

Fairly new to drawing, yet another attempt at a female portrait.
What needs fixing?

>21 out of 63 images are reactions and not drawings
This place super sucks
guys how do I paint tho

>>4410156
nah dude you gotta somehow just dig up how to make stuff from inside your own brain
like if you wanna build houses
you just gotta buy wood and wiring and insulation and siding and just fucking wing it until you build a house correctly
you can't look at how other people do shit and try to imitate it
that's not how you learn at all

>>4410343
Change the hue for the shadow slightly to make a little more interesting. Also background is making everything more dull.

>>4410344
This.
I don't fucking understand what people think will happen once they've learned the fundies.
Do they think that they'll just magically be able to draw anything they want in any style?
Honestly, copying artists you like is just as important as fundies, if not more important because visual library is the most important thing for drawing from imagination.

>>4410345
OK i gotta fuck with hue variation more.
Should I lean into blue shadows / warm highlights for outside in daylight?
The background is not even started- grey is my canvas color
I suppose that's inherently the wrong way to go about painting tho

Got some time off work so I made this.

>>4410331
Post the ref you used.

>>4410331
The first thing that springs to mind is the posing. It's awkward how the subject is resting their chin on her wrist rather than the palm of her hand. The way her arm is drawn makes it look as though her arm is coming up through the neck of her shirt. Nobody wears a wristwatch that far up their forearm and on the side of their arm. Everything looks like it was drawn freehand with zero blocking. My advice is to try again, but make sure the structure, proportions and pose are in place before adding detail to the portrait.

>>4409443
City hunter

>>4410446
hey that's pretty good

going to start studying hatching so i suck at it less, any pointers on that?

>>4410120
soiled it
you've taken it from "weird but kinda hot" to "wrinkly old lady face" in about a dozen lines.
otherwise I think that your torso/hips/tits/midsection/etc proportions just off enough that it's a bit uncanny valley, unless I'm misunderstanding the perspective... in which case it's still kind fucked, I think, but I'm not skilled enough myself for my words to hold any value.

ol lucina

Still working on values. I’m not sure if I’ve made progress

i just give up git gud
just draw and memorize study something everyday and spamming idea like crazy retard

>>4410498
Imagine being this good and giving up, rest in peace.

>>4410498
Don't be a quitter, loser.

>fun with a pencil
>fun

do i need to think about line weight when sketching or consider that during like inking

>>4410513
It's not Loomis's fault you're a sperg who gets trauma from just drawing.

>>4409443

marnie

>>4410550
>drawing marnie instead of best girl bea
Can’t relate

>>4410550
This is really well done. Color it.

>>4410555
My power level isn't high enough yet, foo

render a shit and colours bad

I’ve relapsed.

>>4410577
Where did you get that ref?

>>4410582
>>>/jp/23058822

>>4410587
Didn't think that would be asian. Interesting.

How did I do?

>>4410645
Soul

>>4410645
Did they kick you out of /v/ again

when to use hard and soft edges?

>>4410661
When you think it looks better over the good

>>4410661
Loomis

>>4409449
>recurring mistake
> grinding loomis head

So I've been doing Calligraphy a lot because I love to write letters, so I've gotten a lot better at doing differents fonts and typefaces w/e. I can draw/paint fun/cool symbols, 2D things, gold ornamentation/paisley things. I do it either with a brush/paint, or ink/fountainpen/etc/brushpen.

Anyway, I'm trying to learn to draw now, and Its definitely hard to draw in ink. Shading is probably the hardest, and of course, making a mistake is permanent.

Should I move to charcoal? or a pencil?

sketchin tonit

>>4410498
Learning anatomy from imagination with textureized information

I’m not a furry.

How it looks anons?

Well, first post here
It's been a month or so since i started drawing so give me some advices

>>4410746

& also a what is the best way of color and avoid this shit?

>>4410331
>>4410369
>>4410413

Here's the ref which might explain some of the positioning

>>4410750
You manually fix it after. It's an inevitable part of the process.

>>4409977
Loomis Chads win again.

Strengths, if any, and weaknesses? Thank you for your time.

you mean if I use more than a circle for the head it'll look better??? gotta look at the loomis and animu books again to help get the 3D look cuz it lookin FLAT ain't it

>>4410683
So grinding loomis is not the way to go? What do you advice me then?
I try to do work from imagination too ( pic related )

>>4410799
Take Vilppu as your lord and savior and feel the form.

>>4410803
How does Vilppu construct heads?

loomis'd

>>4410803
I already watched the part where he put a cube and a sphere in his socks and explain how you feel the form do I need to watch more?

>>4410804
Like a boss.

>>4410804

fucked around in the past hour and drew some reference someone posted and some quick 60-90 sec "gestures" from the couple figures i saw. Phoned it in a bit and I blame my shitty desk for the kinda fucked face

fucked around in the last hour and drew some reference earlier and some quick 60-90 sec references from some figures i saw here. I think my desk is to blame for why the face is fucked a bit

please tell me everything that is wrong with the picture, focusing on what i should have done well on the skill level that is portrayed by said picture

>>4410857
the main reference used

>>4410745
is that a giant dick coming on her back?

>tried to figure out how to deconstruct the figure for like 3+ hours
>consistently getting it wrong
where is her ribcage?

>>4410746
The shape of the rib cage is weird. And she looks out of balance.

>>4410750
use binary pen , no antialiasing

I give up
why does this eye look so wrong

should it be smaller
is the perspective wrong
is it too far to the right

I cannot tell anymore

>>4410828
This is the same for me I draw with my back laying on my chair looking at a flat desk so there is a deformation when you actually look at your drawing straight down. I don’t know how to fix this except by arching your back and looking at your drawing really close and square, but this is bad for the back fuck it.

>>4409494
instant boner

Opinions on this?
Good way to learn the head?

>trying to go through robertsons book
>cant figure out how to intuitively find the VP

>>4410120
is this the female version of the coomer?

>>4410942
cos x
cos 90-x

>>4410902
head is too big for the face. Look up references (search anime head turn around) and use construction.

>>4410902
i think it's mostly her snout drooping off at a weird angle?

>>4410942
"Finding the VP" is meaningless.
They are 100% arbitrary based on the object you are drawing and how you want it to look.
If you want to draw a perfect right angle, the two VPs should make a right angle with the station point.

>>4410957
>use construction
lol ok.
Show me how "construction" helps you draw an anime profile view.

>>4410902
use a ref you fucking ape

>>4410964
is there something better for brainlets that isnt the boomer book

Growing up is wanting to learn construction.
Being an adult is realising construction doesn't work.
True wisdom is knowing symbol drawing is the only viable way to draw from imagination.

>>4410923
All of Vilppu's faces look horrible in my opinion, so you should probably learn from someone else.

>>4410976
you use construction to place the symbols at the correct location in space.
or just feel the form to find the correct location.

>>4410978
His figure drawing is so good, I don't get why he keeps drawing ugly heads

>>4410978
like?

>>4410976
But I was told I have an “advanced case of symbol drawing” and that it’s a terrible thing. I had to go back to basics. CUBES!

>>4411004
If someone calls you out for symbol drawing, it simply means you're still using childlike symbols.
You obtain better symbols either through life drawing or simply copying other artists and mixing their symbols into something original that is yours.

>>4410978
>>4410992
He tends to make all of his faces either really old or really fat.

>>4410997
Just learn by studying your favourite artists.

>>4411015
That course looked so promising, but every single face he draws looks disgusting
>>4411020
I guess I'll do this

>>4410978
eh, that doesn't mean too much. the default body he uses is a sack of potatoes but he's still good for figure

>>4411015
>>4411022
>>4411025
I don't know, something just always looks off about his faces.
This here is one of his better ones from the figure drawing course but it still looks weird for some reason.

>>4411029
>y-you shouldn't chicken scratch!
>meanwhile based chad vilppu

I am so burnt out on drawing, I've just been doing everything lazy and low effort and distractedly polishing turds without correcting anything, and yet they turn out better than when I would put hours of focused effort into a piece.
Not to say this has any artistic merit, or is good, but it's way better than before and I can't understand it

>>4411040
you draw better when you're not worried about the drawing looking good.
it's also why most people's sketches look better than the finished piece, because on the finished piece they were too worried about the final outcome.
if you've ever seen professionals draw, they usually draw very loose, even for the final lineart. they usually don't give a shit about making mistakes, which is why they can easily work around the mistakes.

what should I draw?

>>4411015
>>4411029
I'm at a point where I'm sick of jumping from teacher to teacher
I'll do his course, I just want to learn head drawing, even if they look ugly

>>4409494
what the fuck, it looks like it was made by an artificial intelligence

>>4410750
Disable all anti-aliasing on the brush for inking. Create a new layer, select the outside of the lineart and reverse selection, finally fill with black and put on the bottom.

>>4411040
based and just do it pilled.

>>4410968
o-ok, guess I'll grind more refs

>>4411059
>>4411046
are you saying I should do every drawing lackadaisically? even with the goal of improving?

>>4410965
Not side view, 3/4, but it shows how construction helps make it easier to draw. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASDDp0RL9v0

The good old but now dead IDrawGirls drawing anime side view https://idrawgirls.blogspot.com/2007/10/how-to-draw-anime-girl-face-step-by.html

>>4411046
On the plus side of professionals, they are burnout from deadlines so they stop giving too much shit and nitpicking useless stuff, unless that useless stuff is something the client wants because clients can be dumb.

>>4411064
strike a balance obviously. but if the choice is between slacking off but getting things done and stressing over everything to the point of paralysis, then the first option is best.

>>4411011
Your ideas are too radical. Nothing personal, but I’m reporting you to the /ic/ tribunal and recommending you be burned at the stake. I’ll continue drawing my cubes.

>>4411064
No, you should still try, just don't get overly nitpicky with your lines.

>>4410965
Are we talking about the same thing? I am talking about that sphere with a cross thing. It tells you where to place the features of the face accordingly with the size of the head.

>>4411082
that thing is for retards who can't draw, idiot

>>4411088
It should serve you well then.

I just hope to be good enough to finish a drawing someday.

>>4411088
> can't draw

>>4411082
Yes we are talking about the same thing.
Show me how it helps you draw an anime head in profile view.

>>4411100
Ur better than most fags here already.

how the fuck do you even recreate an existing character's head using loomis

The character does not have a sphere as headshape, now what. Do you just need to "see" the correct oval shape of the character? Then how does loomis even help me when seeing the correct shape in perspective is the hardest part to begin with

please help I'm a retard

>>4411110
>>4411065
>Not side view, 3/4, but it shows how construction helps make it easier to draw. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASDDp0RL9v0 [Embed]

>The good old but now dead IDrawGirls drawing anime side view https://idrawgirls.blogspot.com/2007/10/how-to-draw-anime-girl-face-step-by.html

>>4411114
Use your eyes and brain, shit, ur a retard nvm. NGMI

>>4411096
shut up, your an idiot too. go draw spheres in your mother vagina

>>4411120
In the step by step on the blogspot post, he doesn't explain how he knows:
How big to make the eyes in the first place.
How far the two eyes should be from each other.
What relation the mouth has to the center line (as far as I can tell, there's no obvious one).
How close the nose should be to the far eye and how far it should extend down.
And this is obviously before we get to all the details of the features.
So basically he ended up drawing all of these things based on intuition and prior experience. So "construction" ends up lookingpretty fucking worthless here.

>>4411110
What are you doubts about it? What would prove it?

>>4411138
See >>4411135
Mileage, intuition, remembering past studies you did of references, these things are what do the heavy lifting when you draw. It's not clear how much construction actually helps. When /beg/s first try and construct, it inevitably looks like shit. Their constructions only improve as they study more references and gain mileage and hone their intuition. This implies that it's the intuition that's doing the work, not the construction. Compare this to an actual knowledge-based algorithm, like steps for solving a math problem, and people are much more easily able to apply it consistently and reliably as soon as they learn the steps. This is not so for constructive drawing.

>>4411135
It's kinda funny how most artists will tell you to use construction but then when you ask them how they learned to draw they usually just copied stuff without any construction.
Construction works to get the placement right, but there's no point in getting the placement right if you don't actually know how to draw the thing you're trying to draw.

Practice from today. Tried to copy a photo of the old dude using negative spaces. The other three is imagination practice

>>4411135
>How big to make the eyes in the first place
You make as big or as small you want it to be, it's your preference. As long as it looks good for you.
>How far the two eyes should be from each other.
Study different proportions, different topic from construction but it's almost always present.
>What relation the mouth has to the center line (as far as I can tell, there's no obvious one).
That's exactly what is construction for, finding the relationship between features and the guidelines, see useful they are, even you saw that unconsciously.
>How close the nose should be to the far eye and how far it should extend down.
>And this is obviously before we get to all the details of the features.
Proportions.
>So basically he ended up drawing all of these things based on intuition and prior experience.
Yes, you're not entirely wrong.
>So "construction" ends up lookingpretty fucking worthless here.
Maybe, until you need to draw something in an angle/perspective you're not familiar. Construction will make your life a lot easier. Look up this video demonstrating it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjkb8YxE9PM

More real use for construction here, for animation, there are more things in his channel, just be aware that most his stuff are 1h+ long https://youtu.be/griFENMF_ow?t=1575

>>4411151
>It's kinda funny how most artists will tell you to use construction but then when you ask them how they learned to draw they usually just copied stuff with construction.
FTFY

>>4411184
name 1.

>>4411079
>>4411069
ok thanks, I think not trying so hard is what was letting me finish pieces recently instead of just giving up too

Just tried out animating in krita and finding it pretty fun, can I learn the fundies through animation?
obviously not as pic related, that was just a doodle with no planning or intent, but maybe something with animating people in different angles, do you think it's a good way to learn and are there assignments out there for this sort of thing?

>>4411195
Jim Lee? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1a1jrd7aQA

>>4411199
You can learn drawing through animation, but make sure to use a lot of refs and not just draw everything from imagination.
As for assignments, I think there's a website link in the animation thread that has a bunch of exercises listed from easy to hard.

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>>4411202

a bloo bloo

>>4411195
This guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgDMcUmk8Ho

>>4411202
>can't even tell what the fuck is going on in most of his drawings
okay, now name a good artist.

>>4411208
Craig Mullins

>>4411211
>can't even tell what the fuck is going on in most of his drawings
okay, now name a good artist.

>>4411213
Pollock

>>4411218
what did you call me?

>>4411218
fair enough, you got me.

>>4411144

>When /beg/s first try and construct, it inevitably looks like shit. Their constructions only improve as they study more references and gain mileage and hone their intuition.
but normally it will look better than their drawing without construction. Like the pic >>4410902 if it was done following construction it would be at least of the correct size.

>Mileage, intuition, remembering past studies you did of references, these things are what do the heavy lifting when you draw.
But if you want to draw something that you never drew before. You will have to come up with a way to translate the info that you have to a new context. Wouldn't that be the same that a construction?

>>4411234
post your work onegai

i want to make the big porn ca$h, please crit

>>4411237
Clean your lines, its dirty.

sketched some possums

>>4411237
She has a huge bald spot on the top of her head.

>>4411235
What is the point? It won't prove anything. If you believe that I am wrong make a counter point.

>>4411248
Just asking you to post some proof that what you're saying is true and that construction really does make your drawings better.
Not even trying to be a bitch, I just keep hearing these arguments on this board yet no one is willing to post any kind of proof to support their side.

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>>4410753
This is wrong
>>4410750
You select the outside of the character, then invert it and fill with the flat color