/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

A randomly selected number of us will make it.

OP reminds me of this game

>>4401874
It's not random. It is me. I select who makes it.

>>4401877
Don't just draw a flat square for the head, draw a ball or box, enough to indicate where the front and side planes are and which way it's facing.
The lack of volume to the head caused you to not be able to attach the neck correctly.
Draw more torsos from reference (rib cage + pelvis + how they're connected via obliques, abs, etc) because the whole thing is fucked up right now.
Weird funny puffy floaty balloon legs, I have the same problem so I don't know how to fix it.
I'm a /beg/ too so I can't draw you a redline but hopefully that'll get you started.

>>4401881
Yeah OP looks super familiar, I thought it was just stolen from somewhere at first. It might be.

>>4401877

>>4401905
kek

>>4401905
daily reminder that this guy made it, so we can!

how is it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdF6b8dIh4g
can't color as late
>>4401881
>>4401904
it's higurashi when they cry

Simple shitter here, I am finding it hard to sleep because I actually have imagination now and general structure to drawing, fuck everything about how art is taught in the UK what a fucking joke

>>4401984
what did you find out?
UK here too, art teacher never taught me a single fucking thing in 5 years. literally nothing

>>4401984
this reads very strange and made me laugh out loud

>>4401905
This is a side profile
My picture is 3/4ths view and looks nothing like this

Is it true that most of kim junggi's ability is mostly talent rather than extensive practice? He doesn't use reference or construction.

>>4402042
I figured out a secret which after knowing makes his work much less impressive, still incredibly impressive and skilful but now looks achievable , maybe after decades

>>4401993
>>4402006
I am a very strange fella

I don't know how to put it in words but I have lived the last 15 or so years, thinking art was all talent but it's just not, it's all form and understanding and talent comes from understanding it, I litterally hated every waking day of my life because I fucking love anime autistically and live in Yorkshire (hostile work environment), anytime I get put in a art "class" it's drawing exactly what you see without seeing any form

What I did to find the SPIRIT
>Got autistically into hips and fap to them a lot
>Started mapping anime girls with proportion in mind only, try to capture all the curves right, used a fucking youtube video to help me because I am poor as fuck and never have money in the bank
>(I did also ink and color them like a tard but do whatever)
>I wanted to get a understanding of objects in general, all mine that I have ever doodled and shit just don't look right, I wanted more understanding after just doing flat images and got into the juicy meaty fucking delicious thing that is perspective and drawing from the viewpoint in mind

I also did autistic things like quickly mapping a shitshot kawaii uguu face and literally getting used to the motion of constantly drawing circles squares

Now it's that my mind can't stop thinking about putting it all together, I don't have any form in how I really plan out my images from the getgo and i am trying to figure it all out,but just playing around with these concepts in practice and mostly sketch has been nice

>>4402062
Oh Also I want to add, I think I may be autistic

There are other drives, but it's all coming together and giving me a whole idea of the bigger picture and it all can make sense, I currently can't make anything right now due to the nerves of anxiety

>>4402062
holy FUCK that chickenscratch is worse than the meme image. rip anon's wrist, I hope you can learn to use your left hand for all that fapping

Fuck it, here is some doodles I did earlier and stuff ( this was while I am trying to get understanding)

>>4402072
Yep, I want to find form, this was very much one of the things I did to map it out, I want to keep and manage form

I will try to get a shitton of sketches done but I don't think I should have done this

>>4402062
That's nice and all, but, your art still sucks and shows no understanding of form.

how do i make my sketches and perspective better?

>>4402033
this anon posted this because you made a perspective mistake
the side further away from the viewer need to be smaller than the side closer to the viewer.
I don't know if really explain this correctly but I tried to make a quick drawing where I tried to correct this.
disregard everything else my drawing is not correct at all just the fact that left side is smaller than right side because it's far away.
hope it can help

>>4401905
Captain american

>>4401983
now I have drawn a car with two cats. I remembered a lot more detail than the last time drawing a car

>>4402102
practice

just picked up a pencil and went for it. really wanna learn how to draw cloth better

>>4402266
Cute tummy

The Asagi

>>4401873
WIP, feedback please.

>>4402347
Copy more references.

>>4402339
Garbage. What are you, 10?

>>4402339
Blog?

my picture was the OP a few threads back so im trying to get my act together.

>>4402374
It is nice, you didn't capture well the likeness of the guy tho.

Is it better?

>>4402396
A little

>>4402358
I just like drawing my favorite Taimanin

I started drawing literally this week, still getting used to my new tablet, and all I know is that I want to draw buff, bara guys.
I have an artist I like very much and I'm trying to do something similar (just by looking), but it's obvious there are many off points.
Any tips at all?

>>4402396
You draw like Yuko herself lol (but better)

Look guys I traced over someone's picutre but I put my baby in it

I want her look more like her but not sure what to do better

>>4402446
Lmao

Been struggling to find a way to give a more professional looking feeling to my finished drawings.
There is something I am totally missing in digital drawing regarding linework.
I am using clip studio paint.

I want my lines to be as sharp as possible but as soon as I zoom to 100% they look extremely messy and I see that is something other people have found a way to avoid. Is there another way than slave-on in rework lineart?

Even before I work on my values is there something I can do to improve my digital brush work? Ive done some read painting before but I’m bad at it

>>4402396
I hate to say this, but 2018's version looks better (look at the bend on her right arm for example). The difference in quality is certainly more prominent as a result of time taken to draw the character rather than any progress made between the two drawings, or at least that's just how I see it. May be you could spend the same amount of time as the old drawing on another drawing and then compare the two.

How the fuck can people draw 80s anime eyes well? It's like a random shape. I can't make sense of it. I try to construct but I'm just copying. There is no logic to this.

>>4402497
Did you even do an under drawing? Even a very simple construction to establish locations of features?

>>4402347
>virgin 8 heads loomis vs chad 10 heads hogarth

>>4402539
Loomis has a page on this. It follows a certain form and in a way is just a shape too.

how do i make my paint blending not look like complete ass, whats with all the wierd spots the transitions.

Hey guys, any feedback and critique is welcome. I have been told that my line quality needs work. What else can I improve on besides my inability to draw before the torso?

>>4402624
So this is how it feels to have talent. So much soul. Probably fine line over it.

>>4402629
>So this is how it feels to have talent.
Nah, I don't really have talent at all but you're too kind.
>So much soul.
I see this a lot. What gives a drawing soul though?
>Probably fine line over it.
I'm sorry but what exactly does this mean and how should I do this? Appreciate it.

>>4402659
Soul is innate, it can't be told, only felt. Fine line is a type of pen. Basically ink it.

>>4402614
im /beg/ so take this with a grain of salt

I use CSP and i dislike the default watercolour brushes, so i created my own. Besides that, you need to spend more time blending, pushing the colour back and forth between the two colours. youre only making horizontal strokes, with very few colour steps. I like to keep my finger over my cololur picker hotkey. tapping the brush also helps, rather than dragging the colour around, when you get near the end.

You can also use a watercolour brush with no paint on it, or press very lightly, to blend together, but from my experience it can make things look muddy. Heres my attempt at the blending

again, im /beg/ so i might be completely wrong.

>>4402668
*vertical strokes, sorry im retarded

>>4402668
Not that anon, but which direction do you go back and forth? Do I go left or right? If I go down the middle, it falls more towards one side and becomes uneven. /beg/ here too. I really like the lines you made.

>>4402614
>copy opaque water colour tool
>add to settings of copied tool to tie opacity to pen pressure
>rename that son'a'bitch

>>4402664
Oh, okay. I'll make sure to look into that. I've just been using random pencils. I don't really know too much about other drawing utensils and such. Thanks anon, I appreciate it.

>>4402543
No I was trying to do a direct painting

>>4402432
Another one.

>>4402673
I tend to start in the middle and work outwards. I 'pull' colour from either side of the midpoint to the other, so in the examples I gave that would be in the left and right direction.

>>4402624
It's got a good expression and the proportions are decent, pretty much looks like an anime illustration. It's simple though, maybe ink it properly/do a digital version where you commit to the lines. Would be easier to critique

Have people on this board gotten worse over time? What happened to Loomis Anon and Gristle? I guess they just don't post here anymore.

>>4402701
Thanks anon. I'll definitely look into inking. I'm basically just chicken scratching with a pencil right now. I also do need to do more complex stuff. Appreciate it.

more like this?

7 hours later i finally finished something

>>4402722
No prob.

Line quality/chicken scratch issues are present, see pic for the worst example imo. It's unforgivable if you're trying to do good anime so I would do a bunch of studies of good anime pics if you wanna learn that. Goodspeed

i feel like im completely fucking blind. I understand the loomis head in theory, but when it comes to actually looking at a picture and drawing an accurate one im struggling. I think my biggest issue is figuring out where the sides of the sphere are cut off, and how that actually relates to the face. Is the edge of the eye the end of the front plane of the face?
second thing is im having a very hard time telling the orientation of heads when theyre at slight angles. I cant tell if this head is looking up or down. The fact i can see so much of the bottom plane of this girls nose makes me think shes looking up, but if i look at the brown line it wraps around the head in a way that would imply shes looking down.

>>4402728
Oh shit, I can't unsee that now lol. I'll make sure to keep on practicing and I wish you the best as well.

>>4402731
start by trying to draw humans instead of halforcs

>>4402752
dats raycusts

>>4402731
> The fact i can see so much of the bottom plane of this girls nose makes me think shes looking up

That's not the bottom plane of her nose, it's the front plane.

>>4402731
>>4402752
>>4402753
>>4402760
holy shit kek
yeah anon definitely go find an aryan person instead

>>4402726
Draw the rest of the leg even if you crop it out of the final iteration

thoughts and prayers?

>>4402823
where does the vajeen go?

>>4402102
Feel the form.

>>4402825
?

>>4402675
>tie opacity to pen pressure
I can't

>>4402731
>>4402752
lok'tar ogar fellow humans

Is there some kind of guide out there that gives examples of proper ways to practice fundamnetals? Everything I do always feels wrong and I never learn anything

>>4402842
Yeah, it's the sticky. Have fun.

>>4402726
cute black youmu

>>4402855
>tfw now that you're better you realize 6th mastery was never realism but a shift towards stylized
Time passes.

>>4402860
Of course it's not realism. "Anime" just often adheres to real life anatomy while leaving the icky details out

how the fuck does drawing a does drawing a box help me draw anime bitches

>>4402869
You learn to feel the form.

>>4402869
Hard to explain in a single post, but basically perspective is key to drawing everything. You could basically draw anything even if you didn't know what it looked like completely from a photo simply because you know perspective.

>>4402855
>a wall of heiroglyphics
the number values on the different focus point levels don't communicate anything.

>>4402885
Who are you quoting

heres another attempt at a sphere it still looks off

>>4402906
Watch Sycra's light and shadow videos

>>4402904
her left humerus is like 3 times the length of the forearm.

thought id ask to get a reality check on my progress. 3 months ago the heads on the left took me about 30 minutes each to draw, I decided to throw together some rough ones to see how I compare now. these took me 15-20 minutes each. >>4402374 is what i got when i wanted to do a more in depth one.

When i posted these back in december someone told me It looked like i was just drawing an outline and adding the features inside, is that still the case? im trying to show the form of the face more. My rendering also leaves a lot to be desired. I havent even looked at how to draw hair.

>>4402904
you have a foot fetish dont you, anon

>>4402916
But his hands are just as good, it's a surprise how he messed up everything else

>>4402904
Lanky kong

>>4402731
Get better reference. Look at old caucasian people. I would study skulls and get good at the planes of the bone structure before jumping into young soft looking heads. You're going straight to the deep end without working on the basics. In the ref there are barely any visible anchor points for you to see what's going on under the skin. It's too soft and the lighting doesn't help much either. Figure out skulls, and basic head structure first. I'm not an expert, but I gave it a try.

>>4402855
Thanks! I hate it?

>>4402855
Every time I see this picture I can't understand what does it all means. There is so much information here but it's value almost 0%.

>>4402984
the whole middle section is handwaving that would need some examples to make sense. what's the difference between lvl 2 perspective and lvl 4 or lvl 12? you'ld only know if you're the author, or maybe with hindsight.

the list of study topics and the mastery level examples are fine at least.

hello, i need help guys, first of all i make my drawings with stickmans, however i want to change that, does anyone have any good tutorials of construction with shapes?

>>4402631
Listen to the critique you were given. Adding apparel doesn't fix the uneven pecs.

>>4402915
Definitely keep doing the more in depth drawings.
There's a visible improvement from the left, but you're still weak with eyes and ears. The eyes especially you are symbol drawing, instead of actually thinking how they would fit the face and skull.
>>4402374
Here you made more effort with the eyes and it shows.
Keep drawing more detailed faces and use references to know how each part of the face should look considering the perspective, instead of drawing what you feel looks right.

>>4402631
Holy shit you didn't fix anything about the pose at all, could you really not see how bad it was lol

>>4402726
Copying a reference is not "finishing something".

>>4403043
there is nothing wrong in starting with stickmans, but what you want to try is the approach that sculptors do. Observe how they start with a very thin steel base and fill it with aluminum and clay

https://youtu.be/rHw9IH00eWA?t=33

what you should be focusing right now is to learn how to fill those gaps even if you're starting from a stickman, I believe if you were to begin constructing with shapes you'd tunnel vision too hard on symbol drawing. For this I recommend technical knowledge and learn how to fill those gaps first, I suggest Human Anatomy for Artists by Eliot Goldfinger. There is a copy of it on libgen, it's a .djvu file though but you can easily open it with Sumatra PDF. If you insist with learning construction with shapes, I'd like to see an example of what you are "aiming for" since there are different authors for different goals.

>>4403090
it's finishing a study kani-kun.

>>4402915
>My rendering also leaves a lot to be desired.
try out the heavily blended austic realism. it's surprisingly forgiving and educational. just watching the illusion slowly build up on paper can help you get a better sense of what's going on with light and form in general, that'll carry over to more simplified methods.

>>4403108
Ok that's fine, studies are very important so don't let me stop you, it's just that's not what people ususally mean by "finishing something".

any recommendations on what software i should use? i just ordered a tablet that should arrive in a few days, but i have no idea what software to roll with

>>4402726
Good job anon.

>>4403146
Also interested to know.
I've been using Autodesk sketchbook but the UI is extremely shit

Reproducing loomis plate

My submission to /las/ yesterday. Please tell me how shit it is.

>>4402374
I think you are drawing what you think it should look like instead of what your see. Try to turn it upside down and keep going.

>>4402600
Is that in fun with a pencil?

i dont get it, where is the circle of the head supposed to be here? going by the contours the top would be a lot bigger which cant be because viewer is looking up not down

>>4403320
>Please tell me how shit it is.
You barely put any effort into the shading at all. If you are gonna do a half assed job like this then just go purely lineart.

>>4403333
Anime proportions are different from real life, generally the head is a bit more top heavy than irl, also anime hair has more volume, making it even more top heavy.

>>4402400
>>4402436
I take it! lol

>>4402535
Yeah, I do feel like something is missing in the new one. I tried cleaning it up, but it is not there yet.

>>4401873
Satoko is a kid!

>>4403281
You've been coping for three threads straight now. Just let it go buddy.

>>4403441
https://youtu.be/SlCRfTmBSGs

https://youtu.be/SlCRfTmBSGs
>>4403441

some heads from this morning

>>4403453
So this... is the power... of circles...

>>4403441
what's going on here?

>>4403467
Improvement

>>4403471
If i care about people's laugh

i didn't even start it just do it draw different thing every day

>>4403070
>>4403088
Redline it if its so bad

>>4403521
It's easy to redline it yourself, just overlay your sketch onto the reference and see where you deviated from it.

>>4403281
This feels more credible when a cute girl is drawn next to it.

>>4403521
are you just pretending to be retarded

Okay so I have a little question. On the bottom right corner of the screen, I drew a cube like shape with 2 smaller shapes of more or less equal size on each side of the bigger one. All in one point perspective.

I then tried to draw it in 2 point perpective but my doubt is, how do I find out where to place the other smaller shape? How do I find out how big its supposed to be? Do I just eye it or are there other methods?

>>4402624
line quality is a bad meme, especially when you're still trying to figure out what the right lines are.

>>4403333
>he fell for the draw a circle meme

>>4403571

>>4403595
Ohhhhhhhhhhh
I see
I'll play around with this, thanks

figure sketch. crits welcome.

meh

>>4403526
>>4403549
Keep saying it

>>4403614
What?

>>4403613
not quite sure how you manage to put so much existential dread into every face, but it's probably a marketable talent.

>>4403613
Asukafag showing the power of Just Draw. Keep going man.

>>4403625
it's a result of a shitty workflow with sketch and painting
I need to change this

>>4402497
>Even before I work on my values is there something I can do to improve my digital brush work?
Ctrl+paint brush and blending excercises.

>>4402726
It's pretty nice man, gj

I drew this on my history book for school trying to use boxes instead of ovals for construction and I must say that It is a lot more useful this way. Any tips on how to do an actual traditional lineart with pens and colors since I don't have a drawing tablet with screen yet?

>>4403613
This isn't hard to do so just stop doing this thousand yard stare already.

>>4402984
It's just a roadmap.

>>4402823
Her neck is broken my dude, her left eye shouldn't be as visible as it is in her current pose
Either tilt her torso more or just a side view of her face

>>4403618
Keep saying it

>>4403649
ruined

>>4403604
adjustments and shading attempt

>>4403649
what bothers me more are the interaction between the eyes and brow ridge/nose area, looks weird

>>4403662
nose bridge a mile off the face makes the eyes look like they're staring out of a pit.

>>4403644
>drawing in textbooks
Underaged retard. Get some printing paper dumbfuck

>>4403667
Or... the left eye is just sliding off her face

>>4403613
>meh.. umphh... UH.. like.. -_-..
Shut the fuck up.

>>4403699
ughhhh I mean like... kinda cringe comment but.. huh.. well.. ok

>>4403335
Okay, thank you. I will work on it.

>>4403695
nah, look at the side of that nose, you need sherpas to get up that thing.

>>4403713

How the fuck do you actually practice? Just try and copy stuff?

>>4403773
just

>>4402126
here's what I did today.
please criticise

>>4403773
draw something, see what you fucked up on, research what it's supposed to look like and either correct it in your original drawing or make that specific part/object the subject of your next drawing. repeat.

FUCKING HOW?

>>4403782
hey guys can you tell me what medium these were done in?

>>4403825

>>4403827
what do you think of this art. I really like it

>>4403822
with your mind's hand.

>>4403822
I'm sure if you just read more Loomis the answer will become clear.

>>4403825
Etching
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etching

>>4403333
If you want to build a Loomis head work backwards. Start with the line at the bottom of the chin, nose, brows and hairline trace those over to the side of the head to make the flat circle, then you can figure out the sphere based on that. And what you'll find is anime heads are not exactly broken into thirds the way real heads are but at least youll what the proportions actually are.

>>4403822
Peter Han's dynamic sketching course is a nice introduction to the concept of form.

>>4402102
Made for big artist cock

>>4403889
>>4403933
I'll stick with Vilppu's drawing manual.

How is it that I draw worse when actively trying to copy from reference?
I usually end up ignoring the reference and drawing most of the details from imagination.

hey guys, i'm mostly into calligraphy and graphic design but recently started exploring illustration. what are your honest opinions and tips? on ipad pro btw

>>4401983
>>4403782

a better or worse direction?
>>4403893
for all 3? I didn't realise you could do color etchings.
they use this process in manufacturing printed circuit boards

>>4404001
honest opinion, that image is making me feel sick

did i do it right? i had a hard af time trying to figure out the bottom middle

>>4404001
una vela...

>>4404008
do you have any advice to improve it? i feel like coloring is a bit of a problem area for me but idk

Loomis (top left) and from life

>>4404006
no only the black and white one.
the two other are oil I guess.

>>4404020
the face is just gross man, the lips, the eyebrows the expression.
the pose and subject is unnerving and repulsive, and it's unclear whether the author intended that or not

>>4404001
Bad subject desu, feels like you're trying too much to be instagram/facebook relatable/shareable artist

whats the best comprehensive guide into rendering color? Anything goes.

how do i do a clipping mask in clip studio paint pro?

>>4404006
better?
>>4404024
is it pointilism? he has a really blurry surreal look to all his images, I think it's very nice

>>4404006
better?
>>4404024
is it pointilism? he has a really blurry surreal look to all his images, I think it's very nice

>>4404079
more likely it's Sfumato like da Vinci did for the mona lisa, but I could be wrong.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sfumato

Brushes make me sad

can someone plz give me the krita brush settings I need to draw like yoh yoshinari thanks

Total /beg/ here. If my focus will be drawing human bodies, should I just start drawing them fully right away? Or do I need to learn to draw each part and other things first?
Each artist has a style and they draw bodies in unique ways, but does all of them learned to draw a realistic body before developing their style?
And finally, should I invest in drawing classes/lessions?

>>4403613
>

messing around with drapery

>>4404151

>Should I invest in drawing classes/lessions?

That's something you'll have to figure out on your own.

>Should I just start drawing them fully right away? Or do I need to learn to draw each part

Draw different part using basic shapes. ovals boxes, squares, Look at body parts as huge tubes or boxes and then add in the details

>>4404151
You'll probably want to switch back and forth between the two approaches. Draw some entire people, hey my legs really suck, let me just draw legs for a while, ok let me go back to drawing whole people, etc.
>should I invest in drawing classes/lessons?
Totally worthless UNLESS you can get one on one time with a legitimately good artist (not the guy who runs drawing 101 at your community college who has never drawn anything except nude models from reference for the last 20 years) who will take your work and point out specific mistakes and show you how to improve.

Proko spine assign

>>4404208
Where do I keep fucking up on these buckets?
I'm pretty sure it has to do with the ellipses and perspective, but I don't know where you'd learn to freehand tilt an ellipse in perspective. I can rotate them just fine, it's perspective that fucks me up.

>>4403613
How do I draw eyes like you senpai?

what makes you draw

Nothing better to do and I need a hobby.

>>4404290
coom

kept messing up on the middle sphere

>>4404290
self fulfillment

>>4404290
Chronic repression of emotions leading to a desire to express myself plus el autismo imagination constantly cranking out ridiculous fantasies and scenarios.

Proko Pelvis attempts

>>4404389
Nice, work on smoothing out your lines

roomis

roomis 2 since I just noticed my shitty hatching on the nose was dumb

ok just fuck me and help please.

Yo /beg/

Here is a challenge for you.
Don't you fucking dare back down.
Do it.
>>4404493

It really upsets and depresses me whenever I see artists who are are studying something else like compsci and yet draw better than me, an art student.

>>4404532
You shouldn't be. This is absolutely the worst thing possible everyone is a faker and this is the only way to escape.

>>4404532
I can't really take people saying art student seriously unless they go to some Elite school like Syn.

>>4404053
http://georgetownatelier.com/tutorials/introductory-tutorials/figure-trois-crayons/
not exactly comprehensive though

Practice Practice that's only way to get better do not think about future future doesn't exist
Do not think about git gud just draw study accept critique

>>4404557
>the circles are getting worse
so this is the true power of grinding

>>4404557
>>4404579
>circles get worse but the girls get cuter
What is this power, how do I manifest it?

>>4404579
>>4404582
How the fuck can i draw decent circle with finger on phone? Pen tablet is shaking too. So that's a hard excersise

>>4404557
Mongolian finger painter

Any tips?

Here's some of my shitty work. Criticism plz

>>4404737

>>4404774
I can't tell what this is

>>4404776
somebody giving up on their art.

>>4401873
better rendered Ice King

>>4404833
now apply what you learned about the chest being bigger in the front and smaller in the back to the arms as well.

>>4404472
please someone help me I dunno how to make things not look so dead.

>>4403822
By feeling it.

numbered for the sessions, just stuff before work

is 25 too late to start

>>4404910
It's never too late to start, give the sticky a read if you're curious about it.

Is okey study other artist studies?

>>4404853
>>4404472
if they are studies from photographs focus on getting them as exactly as possible with your level of skill, and not only to copy but to understand the underlying decisions that make you trace a line (is there a muscle underneath, bone? is the value range correct? are there any tangents here). If it's a freestyle doodle, then you should try to gear towards expressing emotions and facial expressions. For this you can definitely make weird faces in front of a mirror, try to feel how you would like something to look as and study closely. There are a couple of cartoons that are pretty good at this, once you feel confident that they don't "look so dead", study body language.

something keeps bugging me about the face

so do I keep practicing?

>>4404927
Draw bigger, but yes. Draw the size of your hand and bigger.

>>4404927

>>4404927

>>4404924
because the far side is super wide.
you forgot cheekbones too

>>4402497
Try limiting yourself to 4-5 values with a hard edge brush or, even better, the select tool, anon.
Force yourself to think in bigger abstract shapes, do details later - realize how many of these details are implied in the painting rather than painted out with fine detail.

>>4404914
yes but it might hinder

Been getting too comfortable with the way I do figures so I started reading hampton.

>>4404137
Chuckled. Finish it up Anon.

>>4404079
colored this one >>4401983

>>4404079
also, does this look incestuous?

>>4401873
I heard CSP is shit for painting, is it true?

>>4405173
no

>>4405174
tell me more please

>>4402631
>>4403521
he can't see the differences. lel

>tfw can draw from imagination to a level I'm happy with, but have no Imagination anymore to even think of something to draw

How important is soul in a piece of art? I'm not memeing when I ask this. There's some really beloved things that don't look very good.

what concepts should I be familiar with before jumping straight into loomis?

umpfh..

>>4405193
Woof woof

>>4405226
>eyelids
i feel betrayed

>>4405226
I dont care if you want to draw in your ugly corpseman style. This is just ugly.

>>4405226
this is better!

>>4405226
Why is there no light on the eyeball? Is it supposed to be THAT deepset?

>>4405226
This guy doesn't take any critique does he? I see he always groans and posts, never responds while you guys always roast it

>>4405276
Well he's from Poland so there might be a language barrier? He does respond to some posts though and seems to understand them perfectly well. So he might just be retarded.

>>4405278
Definitely just retarded. Don't suggest that language excuse lmao

>>4405071
Didn't plan on doing anything more to it, was just a quick idea I wanted to draw.

------
Fuck adobe and google captchas, fuck 2020.

I am disappointed with you /beg/

>>4405284
Why

>>4404923
sauce on the facial expression sheet? Or alternatively can you post the sheet itself?

>>4405289
do you not own a mirror?

>>4405290
I do, I would like to study how those artists exaggerated the expressions though.
(Btw I'm not the anon you critiqued)

>>4405290
I look like a goblin and can't stand looking at myself

Absolute beginner here. A friend bought me a tablet a year ago, but it looks like I should start with either Dynamic Sketching or Drawabox? Should I learn the fundamentals with pen and paper or try doing them digitally?

>>4405427
start with pen & paper

>>4405289
This comes from a book called Advanced Animation by Preston Blair (1947) with similar pages in it, I'm sure there are .pdfs lying around with a google search.

>>4405322
This is way above beg

>>4405462
Thanks dude!

>>4405427
Pen&Paper, also do not start with dynamic sketching/drawabox. If you really want to start with them, only make the exercises <20% of your drawing time.

How am I supposed to draw characters upside down and in different perspectives at different angles without rotating the paper
Theres no way hori drew this upside down

>>4405538
What you can't rotate your paper? why??

>>4405538
You realize you can just rotate the paper right?

>>4405541
>>4405542
Thats not cheating?
I thought I had to be able to draw upside down views

>>4405546
Why are bnhakeks so retarded

>>4405546
>he fell for the "cheating" meme

>>4405546
based Jirou poster

>>4405529
I've seen that being said about a lot of stuff that should really stay in beg, so I'm not sure if that's really true or if I'm just too much of an insecure fag.
Thanks though, appreciate it.

>>4404737
God this is so cute, keep working

>>4405546
Wow

>>4403644
I though schools were close due to corona virus

>>4405623
>shit taste

>>4405632
I see a lot of in potential in it. Plus it looks like the anon was having fun.

>>4405632
>being a faggot

>>4405632
take a load of this guy.jpg

>>4401905
>this is your brain on self teaching

any critique besides "study fundies"

>>4405715
Fundies study

>>4405715
Clean it up and put in more work. Take 5 more hours to work on it until it's pixel perfect.

>>4405723
>clean it up
planning to do that

>put in more work
where exactly? i know that it looks bad but i cant really tell why what part should I change and in what way

>>4405726
Look up nude models and compare and contrast until you get a fitting look that's also more anatomically correct. Or look at high-tier artists on pixiv. Remove every lick of construction on there until it's just exactly what you want it to be or even better. Anything to make it look better than now and not bad. Every drawing starts off bad, but if you keep fixing it, it'll always get better. Even if you mess up and make it bad again, just fix it.

a fucking mess

>>4405731
thanks, i did use a model tho, here's the model by the right and its traced contours on the left

I'm drawing a cat based on >>4403118
Is this appealing enough to try to take it to a finish? How are the colors?
(haven't used any real refs yet as you can tell)

>>4405769
The model is from an underview where as your's is a frontal view. That might help you.

>>4405772
yes, i've noticed that, that's why I put shoulders higher in mine

>>4405771
i dont care if these eyes are a stylistic choice, they look like shit

>>4405771
>yellow background
>get the purple on the head right
>the shadow underneath is black
Disgust

>>4405788
The shadow isn't black, but I take the rest as "the color choice is terrible". ty for the feedback

>>4405534
What should I start with then?

>>4405226
please fix the soulless gaze eyes

FUCK construction lines.

They only make my characters look like fucking action figures with no fluidity at all.

>>4405864
Do gesture first and then construction afterwards.

>>4405867
That actually makes sense. But what's the point of construction when the general idea of the figure is already there? Is it just to help visualize it in a 3D plane?

>>4405876
How the fuck do you plan on constructing a body without construction?

>>4405896
Do the countour using the gesture as a base with anatomy in mind?

>>4405546
Is ctrl+z counts as cheating for you, reatard?

>>4405723
>Take 5 more hours to work on it until it's pixel perfect
Don't do this. Most of the learning process happens early on and there's diminishing returns after a point. You'd be better off redrawing it from scratch.

random stuff trying out new app

I'm trying to learn the basic construction of the skeleton so I can imagine what's going on inside the body. I think my bone placement and bone size is off here. I don't think it shows her body's backward tilt either. This took a lot of guesswork and I could really use some feedback (or an example drawing).

>>4406000
The ribs bend back which is why you're missing the tilt. You should be able to see the underside of the ribs. You also drew the pelvis too far. That corner on the statue is the iliac crest which is as far as it goes. It dips down after that. Not 100% on this part, but I like to think that the femur is lower too since the muscles pool towards it and it's too high up on the hip in your drawing.

>realised if I just polished my turds I can get better results (in my taste) than the artists I was looking up to and trying to match.
I wish I could finish more pieces but they all end up being unfinished sketches

>>4406073
Just finish them instead of throwing them away

>>4406081
they're all uninspired, generic, boring trash
Can never seem to find a subject/pose/scene/story in my head worth drawing
Today was special as the composition just lined up perfectly and for once I was actually happy with it, It was the first piece I've finished in years of drawing

>>4405876
I think it is to make sure that the figure is anatomic sound.

If I should only make doing exercises a smaller portion of my total time drawing, what the fuck am I supposed to draw outside of that if I can't draw? Why would I keep reinforcing bad habits like drawing people when I can't manage simple shapes? Unless I'm doing it for line mileage, doing exercises would be more efficient anyway.

>>4406321
You’ll draw bad but a little bit better each time. Like 0.001%

>>4406321
You can try copying some art from artists you like. It won't look as bad and you can compare yours to theirs and see where you fucked up.

I hate my lineart

>>4406859
I like it.

>>4406859
I hate people not resizing their pictures.

>>4405912
not the guy you're talking to, but this is semantics at this point. gesture is also a construction line.
you can use as few or as many intermediate steps as you want, and you can do them in your head instead of on paper if you want. it's just trickier is all.

>>4406952
I could be wrong but when I think of construction I think of boxes, cylinders, balls for joints, things like that. People say it's absolutely necessary but more often than not they just get in the way and don't help at all, especially since I draw on paper so I can't do layers and shit.

>>4406859
it is your strongest point tho.

>>4407396
>drawing on paper in 2020
Come on it's as if you guys don't wanna make it

how can i make grayscale more vibrant?

>>4401873
I feel like something’s off about her breasts but I can’t seem to put my finger on it...