/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

This can't be real.

>>4383864
???

>>4383860
Why does this look like a fake magazine cover that you'd see in a show or something

>>4383860
Ilya has been on ImagineFX many times. Even to the point where I saw Feng Zhu bought his art to hang up in the studio. That's when I really understood that Ilya was good if Feng Zhu admires him as well.
>tfw won't ever be as good as Ilya

>>4383860
I can’t stand the girl’s dumb af expression

/ourguy/

>>4383864
>When Ilya is not tracing

>>4383881
>ywn be Feng Zhu approved

>>4383860

Does anyone have a pdf of this issue?

>>4384568
pdf stands for pedofile

>>4384588
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaUkt59vY1Q

>>4383860
I unironically read that as
>Get better at tracing manga characters with Ilya Kubshinov

>>4383881
>That's when I really understood that Feng was bad if he admires Irya.
That did it for me. I'll stick to Jung gi or Krenz.

>>4384755
Agreed, I always knew KJG was better than Feng this proves it.

>>4383860
Our boi Ilya is getting worse. I think working in animation in Japan (of all places) is taking a toll.

>>4383860
I don’t get why he is always referred to as a manga artist when he doesn’t make manga. He’s an illustrator.

>>4383881
But Feng Zhu is not an artist, he is a "designer" he literally said that himself.

>>4384832
Is it that, or could it be because he draws the "same" girl day in and day out as if he's some mindless zombie.

>>4383860
ITT: Salty ngmi club

>>4384912
Iriya-sama is a master of all trades.

>>4383864
what's the problem here?

>>4383866
>>4385182
Are you even trying?

>>4385178
So, self-insert Ilya saves cute cashier girl?

>>4384912
>>4385178

>>4385178
I don't get it, what's going on in those panels?

>>4385182
what do the contours underneath that hand look like

>>4385227
>>4385504
why not just explain rather than being vague?

>>4383860
Anyone else find his faces unappealing and bland?

>>4385665
Certainly some serious sameface going on here. I don't mind the style but it would get boring fast if it is always like that

I feel he's gotte very lazy, he never had much of a range but his work didn't used to be as half assed as it is now all of his new stuff looks like he knocked it out in a half hour

>>4383864
I hope this was memed and he didn't actually fuck it up that bad.

If you're an anon that doesn't see any issues in this, draw less anime and more people.

>>4385482
Thgats the point

>>4385992
>draw less anime and more people.
Honestly, 90% of anime style drawings have better hands than this.

>>4385702
if all of irya’s stuff looked like this i actually wouldn’t hate him much
but instead he’s a tracing hack who embarrasses himself on livestreams and shits out the same deadeyed fatlipped anime faces over and over until the industry caves into him

>>4386081
Yeah, I don't like his anime style art

>>4385504
What do you expect from a manga art anyway. Manga is not real

>>4383864
How is it possible to have gone through so much academic training and fuck up with this?

>>4386179
Could say the same to you. Been drawing so long and you still fucking suck? Damn, what the fuck is wrong with you?

>>4386184
You don't know me, son

>>4385702
This looks really cool, do you know artists that produce similar work?

>>4385665
>Anyone else find his faces unappealing and bland?
Yes, yes, for the 1000th time YES! Where have you been?

>>4386179
Wait, Irya did all those in your pic related?

>>4385702
i know you obviously dont paint much but if you think this is as effort intensive as you think it is, think again faggot.

>>4386242
Effort doesn't matter to the public, only the final result does. You can spend an entire week or just an hour at creating picture and nobody will care about that but you yourself.

>>4386249
>>4385702
What did he mean by this

>>4386179
being a xerox machine doesn't really make you good at drawing without ref, in ilya's case it is mostly laziness though. he gets the big bucks doing the same zero effort comfort zone shit he was doing 4 years ago so why even try to improve?

>>4385665
Yes but his burnt lineart and chromatic aberration simulate sub surface scattering that our skin gives off from sunlight so people (laymen) think it looks good.
Kind of like how a low tier pianist can play the Pirates of the Caribbean theme off-key on the street can impress people, they are impressed with the art of a charlatan.

>>4387049
>his burnt lineart and chromatic aberration simulate sub surface scattering that our skin gives off from sunlight
How do I do this?

>>4386223
Considering he’s been copying Hisashi Eguchi for years you can start with him.

>>4386238
He claims those are his, yes.

>>4383864

I'm not saying this looks good, but what am I supposed to see?

>>4386223
Guweiz, Simomark, Wlop

do any of you know if he sells this cover as a print? I'd love to have it on my wall

>>4383864
LOL AHAHAHAHHAAHAHA WTF HOW???? HOW?????? AHAHAHAHAHAHAJAJAJAJ

>>4387114
color dodge

>>4386179
You stop caring when you get 2000$ per week on patreon

>>4387725
what colors do I dodge?

>>4383864
It's not great and kinda sloppy but it's not really meme-worthy. The replies make it seems like it's a sakimi 6 fingers-tier mistake.

>>4387954
All of them

All of you suck even more.

>>4385665
>>4385674
There's something really off about that image, I think it's the mouth placement. It's like the ratios are all off.

>>4386179
Same Proko. So much fundamentals and yet can't draw a simple kangaroo. Feel the form if you don't want to end up the same way.

>>4387977
it doesn't come out right...

how

>>4383860
is the right arm longer than the left?

>>4383864
why the doll joint?
That's kind hot tho

=1LXmy-4-hwg

I didn't know a magazine like this existed

>>4385665
>his faces
>plural
it's still a hot face though.

>>4383864
Broken arms kek hahahahahahahaha

>>4391752
I got one from the /ic/ resources bundle when I first started coming to here but I just assume that it's dead since most magazines are dying off like flies.

>>4388014
Proko even learned with vilppu videos

>>4387993
Ah fuck, you made me realize the errors of my way, I'll subscribe to Illya's patreon now, thanks for your wonderfully insightful post anon, great addition to this irya bashing thread

>>4391897
link to this?

>>4392031
He deleted that comment long ago

>>4391897
>admits that he traces
>"don't do stuff like this anymore"
>"I believe that you can draw for yourself without plagiarism"

what is the context here or is he suffering from multi-personality disorder here

>>4392088
That post is him criticizing someone else's work.

Download magz has the PDF up if you want it.

This picture is more true every day.

/our guy/

>>4393359
no

>>4392839
aight, thanks anon

>>4385665
The glasses look like they're floating on her face...

Why is imaginefx so expensive? I would buy it every month if it was like half the price for something physical to read at lunch but instead i just skim through it in the store and wait for the pdf.
The sketchbook volumes are even worse, like 24 euro for old sketches i can see for free on instagram.

>>4394812
Magazines and the industry are almost dead, that's why.

>>4383881
>>4383955
It keeps getting worse.

>>4395263
Ilya so incredibly based.
>tfw Kojima will never praise you

>>4395263
its not fucking fair

>>4384612
Why are you guys against tracing? It seems like a valuable tool.

>>4388014
>Feel the form
What?

>>4395263
Kojima is a hackfraud though

>>4395358
>I-Ilya is a hack
>K-Kojima is a hack
>E-everyone but my /beg/ ass is a hack
The absolute state of /ic/

>>4383864
>her
kek'd

>>4392927
I'll always lose to "Ohio".

>>4387921
Damn, this is literally my dream.I just dont understand how someone so mediocre could achieve this, its not fair.Its all about fucking luck.

>>4385065
Designers are also artists.

>>4395421
>luck
Don't use entropy as a coping mechanism. Ilya isn't lucky, he knows how to market his mediocre art.

>>4395422
Not according to Feng himself.

>>4395433
>imagine believing this
Its all about timing and knowing the right clients, which is the equivalent of luck.Luck and opportunities play a big role in someone's life and just because you are doing your marketing right doesnt mean you are gonna be as successful as him.It all boils down to probability

>>4395444
>the equivalent of luck
If that was true it wouldn't be reproduceable with skill. And opportunities only matter if you know how to seize them. Thinking like that is a defeatist hellhole you'll have a very hard time getting out of, if you want to.

>>4395444
You're correct, but most artists will won't be willing to admit that no matter how well they play the game, they can only ever increase their probability of success by a certain margain, and there will always remain a significant chance that some contingency fucks them over or elevates someone who wasn't playing nearly as well above them.
Recognizing that life is that chaotic doesn't give you any survival advantage. You're better off blindly believing that you'll certainly make it if you work hard and smart and learn how to network, since that attitude will make you decisive and fearless.

>>4395456
>it wouldn't be reproduceable with skill
And it isn't reproduceable with skill, as you would expect. This is not just true for art, you require luck in anything in life.

>>4395469
>>4395461
I feel sorry for you guys.
Guess this is the cope central after all.

>>4395472
>If I just try hard enough I'll beat my cancer for sure
>well, statistically speaking there's still a good chance you'll die anyway
>c-cope harder, losers

>>>4395444
trips of cope

>>4395476
Makes sense for you to compare being successful to beating cancer.

>>4395486
It seems you are implying to be a successful artist as if you have a basis to your argument.Post your insta so we can see who is actually coping?

>>4395488
Why don't you post your own work so we can see how much you're actually deserving of success?

Why is it that whenever success is discussed on this board it always devolves into "you just hate the rich because you're envious. the fact that they're successful basically proves that they deserve it, just like you deserve to be poor."-tier shaming tactics?
In the context of this thread, the question isn't whether skill matters whatsoever, it's whether Ilya's success in particular is deserved, and whether having Ilya's skill level + appeal + marketing would guarantee success for someone else. And the answer to both of those questions is just plainly no.

>>4391691
AHAHAH THANKS

>>4395573
Coward.

>>4395573
Based

He can't keep getting away with it!

Ilya is literally this close to appearing on a season of Terrace House.

>>4395573
In Ilya's case, his plagiarism and lack of artistic talent is so well documented that it requires a lack of taste and logic to defend him now.
Similar to whiteknights defending their goddesses after they said something stupid, Ilya's followers do not adhere to logic. No matter how evident Ilya's scumminess is, they'll always resort to non-arguments like "you're just jealous", "ngmi", or "post your work".

>>4396173
It's just the usual denial mentality. When people get invested into something it's very difficult for them to step back and admit they got played.

How the fuck are you gonna design a cover for an ART and DESIGN magazine and make it look like a fucking "Top Ten Facelifting Vegetables You Have In Your Kitchen!"-type suburban mom magazine. Not even talking about his bad art, everything is just ugly. Jesus fucking christ.

>>4396173
Even more than not wanting to admit that they have been played, I think one major reason people will side with whoever happens to be successful is that it allows them to pretend that they understand how success works, and in consequence, that they have what it takes to be successful themselves.

>>4396173
Did he state it was from life though? Technically nothing's stopping you from drawing from reference at a cafe

>>4396173
What's wrong with drawing a cosplayer? Legit question.

>>4396316
>>4396358
Iirc, he posted the "cafe sketch" in response to the plagiarism complaints, I guess to show people that he can draw. People then found out that he traced over some Chinese cosplayer.

ilya is better than better yall , you shitheads are jealous of his success and talent. There is literally nothing wrong with any examples people posted here, you dont know what youre talking about. Go back and read some loomis, if you can read.

>>4396378
you can accurately recreate a ref without tracing you know.

>>4395420

i spat on my tablet from laughing so hard

the elitist nonsense for talentless fools that dont have any knowledge or understanding to be in any position to make claims about ilya's lack of talent, is astounding. Cool echochamber you got going.

He traced? TRACED INTO HIS Sketchbook? Try do figure drawing once in your life moron, "trace" some figures. People who who studied a lot in academy (like Ilya) , dont have garbage proportions just cuz they didnt trace.

Pretty much every professional artist will tell you to use reference. But you can keep churning out furry porn from your imagination.

>>4396480
Whatever help you cope

>>4396480
>ilya's lack of talent
He is a character designer and yet he can't design for shit.

>>4396766
you're not wrong, but accuracy that would satisfy a group like /k/ doesn't matter even slightly to general audience.

>>4396766
he didnt design those characters, nice try, clueless about anime production,

Why the fuck would Ilya waste his time on some smelly dudes? Ilya is there to draw how chicks, that's all. All you see there is IG. But mister this is anime.

>>4396766
>tfw ever since you saw this on /ic/ you always check now to see if people put on their vests right

>>4396881
I'm guessing he designed those maids in trailer as they look like every other anime chick he has drawn.

>>4386179
>How is it possible to have gone through so much academic training and fuck up with this?
Look at the picture that you posted. The answer that you're searching for is literally there. He only learned how to copy.

>>4395388
Kojima is a hack. He nearly bankrupted Konami which is the reason why he got the boot in the first place.
>inb4 m-muh DEATH STRANDING
Yeah, tell me, anon. How good of a GAME was it?

>>4395486
Why are you deliberately missing the point?

>>4396461
Ae you misdirecting deliberately or something?
>he posted the "cafe sketch" in response to the plagiarism complaints, I guess to show people that he can draw
and then it turned out that he just copied the whole thing. Whether he traces (inb4 "b-but you can't trace in traditional") or knows how to measure/eyeball doesn't even matter in that context.

>>4385665
i see u must b a jellus crustacean
seethe and cope more beglet

>>4397365
youre the ones "misdirecting" , i dont see where he posted something "in response to plagiarism" , or to "show he can draw", any artist with half a brain and especially with some academic background can see he can draw, he never needed to prove anything. Even the "worst" examples is him applying his own style,, detail and preference. He didnt paint over like that Ross(cant)draws.

He used a reference, that's all. He wasnt hiding something. Do people hide the fact they referenced a photo of Obama if they draw Obama? Artists reference so much, it's natural to not even think of mentioning this fact.

>>4398321
>He used a reference, that's all.

>>4397365
the context i was using is that we're on a board full of shitters who really do think that accuracy is impossible without tracing.

>>4396896
all girls look the same in every anime ever, besides their hair and eye shape. If they wanted them to look different they'd have a different designer for them. Ilya's character design for girls will likely never change, cuz people like it. (that's why he is hired lol) . Takeuchi Takashi only changed his style cuz his looked outdated, he still draws only Saber and people like it.

>>4383866
>>4385182
>>4387188
The lower arm doesn't make any sense. Perspective, anatomy, and proportions are way off. Especially the hand. Given that it's supposed to wrap around the Totoro doll.

>>4398350
Both arms, actually. Way too fucking small in relation to the body.

>>4396480
One - turn ref into a print
Two - paper over the print
Tree - trace on top of that print

>>4398355
lmao why would anyone bother to do that for a stupid sketch. Why would someone so popular and successful really care for some accusations. He didnt do anything so bad as rossdraws or whatever.
You are delusional motherfucker if you think he actually traced it.

>>4398350
the arms arent too small and perspective and porportions are fine. You guys dont read the image properly, you see what you want to see. It's sad.

>>4398431
what did rossdraws do

>>4398434
ngmi

>>4398446
WTF
Seriusly?
But Ross is a legal hack

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilF330DsT4Y

>>4398520
Ilya truly is a genius. Such an amazing aesthetic, so much precise strokes and editing to achieve perfection. Is there anyone better?

hack

>>4398540
me

>>4385665
It was interesting the first few times, but after that it gets boring.

>>4385665
fixed

>>4400428
lmao you made it objectively worse . Mouth isnt there stupid.

>>4400428
Amazing how a simple fix makes this so much better. The mouth still looks kinda weird, maybe put it a bit farther from the nose.

>>4401835
its not better. Not only you dont understand what a style is, but your grasp on anatomy is far worse than ilya's.

>>4400428
you've done good.

>>4383860
>want to buy the magazine
No I fucking don't. Go suck rice nigger cock elsewhere.

>>4400271
this

>>4400428
that's a negatory, Skip.

>>4401555
>>4401853
Literally go to Google images and search for 'face' you low iq retard faggot. Coom less to amine and meet real people faggot

>>4402321
i dont know where you come from where girls have retarded chins like that.

>>4402447
India, looks normal to me
Asshole

>>4403002
Stay jealous of our superior russian girls with normal proportions. Ilya doesn't want to draw chin chin girls

>>4394812
probably have to pay the artists and everyone knows artists are Jews, so the magazine has to charge a premium per issue just to stay in business.
But I know the feel. if these magazines were under 10$ I'd buy them monthly.

>>4402447
damn i like the middle one so much fkin better than illya, when you see the real thing its obvious

>>4402447
You can just shorten the jaw of the bottom one and it lines up with center.

>>4402447>>4403005
The reason she looks unappealing in the original one isnt because of the chin, but because the distance from upper lip to nose is too large.

>>4398350
This is why you will never fucking make it.
You let your anatomy autism get the best of you.

>>4403109
im not sure about that, Lisa is pretty, and most people probably think this is a pretty anime girl too, just like his other ones.

>>4402447
wow the real girl has a skinnier neck than the cartoon girl.

>>4392927
>15 degree's to the left.
I died at this part.

>>4398340
Sadly this is true. You can have a frame of reference but at some point you have to do things your own way otherwise you will never have a true identity.

>>4398446
>GOOK!
I laughed.

>>4403799
A large distance between nose and lips is a marker for old age and therefore unappealing in a stylization of a young woman. The pic you posted is probably the max it could be before becoming unappealing.

>>4396173
the thing is that this post already gained a couple of replies solidifies anons logic about ilya kuns fan base. The truth is that his drawings are just mediocre when it comes to like vilppu for an instance, this motherfucker hack will be blown out of the water, in the art community he is not that good, but for the normies who pays him to do stuff that they wanted (goth fetish about woman) it really is the best for them. Not going to lie. most of his fans cant draw, for marketing its okay but for "art" yeah no. Overall Ilya doesnt have any story to tell to his art, he is just there to draw for fans. I'd praise manga artist like Ishida( yes the hack) for creating a story even if its shit than ilya the hack. So overrated, If you reply to this saying "POST YOUR WORK" or "crab NGMI" you just proves anons point.

>>4408804
Wtf does it matter if his fans can draw or not
The man made it he's in Japan making anime
Anyone's arguments are invalid

>>4409122
literally all his anime both flopped and is shit

>>4408804
You are are making ridiculous comparisons. Youre confused and dont understand the purpose of his work. It's all relative, and you should compare Ilya to other artists who draw anime girls, like sakimi and other hacks. Why the fuck are you praising Ishida here? He's a manga artist, and Vilppu isnt drawing anime girls is he?

Those guys are not drawing for themselves alone either, otherwise we wouldnt see their work, they have different purpose, different audience.

Basically anon, youre stupid and think you are more clever than you are. Dont post your work, nobody wants to see it.

>>4409183
1. No they didn't "flop" and arent "shit"
2. Their success or lack thereof has absolutely nothing to do with Ilya. Without Ilya's style, they'd "flop" harder

>>4409227
>whatboutism

sad if this post was made in earnest

>>4409246
its not whataboutism, it's explanation why bringing up artists that do something completely different, for a different audience for a different purpose, is stupid and makes for a bad argument. Ilya is good at what he does not at what doesnt do.

Range Murata is better than Ilya, too bad he focus too much on lolis.

>>4395263
>gives kojima half of his usual copy paste face
lmao

>>4402447
So ilya has made a business out of simping some bydlo vodka woman?

>>4402447
lots of slavs have receeding chins, but that's not the issue here.
The girl he used as reference has her head slightly tilted forward, like girls do when taking a selfie, to make her chin appear smaller and her eyes appear larger.
Ilya has no concept of perspective though, so his chick is looking straight up, the perspective is all messed up (that's why the drawing version appears to have huge cheeks, she'd have a dinner plate shaped face when looking straight at the camera with those proportions.)
Ilya is using a orthographic projection instead of a perspective projection as always.
None of his drawings actually use proper perspective.

>>4409794
He is such a hack.How the fuck did he make it?I DONT GET IT

>>4410060
Be a hack too. Also luck.

>>4410082
Too prideful.I wouldnt feel good when i make it if i cheat.

>>4409794
He isn't use that girl for reference, The girl used his drawing for make a photo, Irya-kun created a contest of phothos using his works in instagram

>>4409794
He didnt use that girl for reference. He used it in reference to this picture. I just gave an example and flipped the image.

>>4409794
its a popular pose in general and among his works. You did all that shitty analysis and didnt even note that in his version she is looking over her shoulder, lmao.

>>4410301
>his version she is looking over her shoulder,
Yes, that is obvious and goes to show how art-blind you people are to even think that's an observation deserving of applause.

I know ilyaletts have no understanding of art or perspective but the side of her head that's facing away from the viewer would be affected by perspective distortion regardless of her pose.
>>4410289
Another prime example, this one looks like her face is literally falling out of her head, like someone is squeezing a tube of toothpaste.

>>4410289
how can he fuck up this hard?

>>4410320
What is wrong?

>>4410301
What's it with slavs and doing disgusting tacky oversharpened images drawn from photo reference where they give random thots bambi eyes and pucky lips?

>>4410332
stop embarassing yourself, you have shit taste. He didnt give anyone bambi eyes or pucky lips, he creates a new character in his style.
STYLE BITCH. And not your shitty chickenscratch style that is only due to your low level skill.

>>4410319
nothing you said is true, you cant read the work. Stop pretending you have understanding. Ilya has had rigorous academic training, russian perfectionism, and he applies his knowledge to create his own unique style.
Its like you have 0 understanding the context in which his art thrives. You have 0 understanding why characters in anime/manga are designed and evolved in the way that it is, his work obviously have Japanese influence, there is subtle exaggeration. Nothing is falling out of her head. You simply refuse to understand what you see.

>>4410324
Compare the cheekbones lol.
Ilya's version has mumps

>>4410447
>russian perfectionism

wow you fooled us all up until this point, great job gather of (You)s

>>4409234
>without ilya style they'd "flop harder
are you fucking blind? thats the reason why people hate ilya, look at ghost in the shell for an example, major should look like a badass woman with the art style that looks like the 90s what they do is the backwards of it, they turned her into a fucking cgi with the mouth of a blowjob doll. This is why people hate adaptation because it defeats the artistic purpose of the given material. Imagine if the titanic movie is getting a cgi adaptation but with moe, it really defeats the purpose of the original content.
>>4409227
Comparing shits to other shits, i stated before that he is a hack without any souls in his artworks, thats why people hate him, if someone follow his footsteps they will be discourage about the idea of "drawing or painting" since he only caters to the people who pays him on patreon, That shit is the equivalent of capitalism on art. Art should be free and explored not to be capitalized thats why i compared him to vilppu about teachings on how to draw and ishida for story(plot), jesus i feel like you guys did not even read all of my posts.

>>4410747
smoothbrain anon, you know a show such as Ghost in the shell ARISE exists, right? Ilya's design is far superior and popular among western and Japanese audience. The old GITS design is just outdated, chihuahua mullets arent popular anymore. They wanted new design for major for a while now, that would be popular with new mainstream audience.

Ig productions got exactly what they expected. You are just ignorant and jumped on bandwagon, + jelly.

You can state whatever you want, doesnt make it true. Wtf is "souls in artworks", dipshit? Your posts dont make any sense, you should not compare him to mozart since he is not making music, you shouldnt compare him to vilppu cuz vilppu doesnt draw anime girls, he doesnt create characters, what the fuck. He explores his niche the same other people you mention do. Ishida is not "free" any more, he caters to manga audience, vilppu does what other starving artists do, and sell their skills to others who will later starve and sell their skills, that's all . Now shut the fuck up.

>>4410486
soo... he is not tracing and has style? Yes. Seems you dont know what an animesque character supposed to look like.

>>4383860
is anyone finding these magazines getting progressively worse lately? for whatever reason, all of the female artists seem to have the same style for some reason, and its becoming more orientated towards the Americas and the obnoxious ""pros"".
I know encouraging artists to be GMIs is the magazines objective, but nearly all of them seem really focused towards people that go along with the Anglo order.
I don't know, quality of the work genuniely seemed higher but I could be imagining things..