/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

None of us are gonna make it.

reference + imagination drawings

>>4384698
I'll make sure all of us are gonna make it.
Right here, right now!
READ AND STUDY MICHAEL HAMPTON.
There.
That's the 1 and only tip you need to git gud at drawing from both ref and imagination.
Just add your anime stylization on top of those constructions and there's literally NO WAY for you to fail and not make it.

I'm feeling very much like someone that would get posted on r/delusionalartists. I like what I did here but there are odvious major issues with it, even going down to the fundamentals.

Can someone give both a technical and aesthetic critique

It was based on sightsizing this reference
https://pin.it/7%2BAcv32
But the next day (today) I did the mane without a reference.

>>4384666
ok guys, new thread's been up for 3 minutes. time to delete it and make a new one.

>>4384716
pyw

yeehaw my hands still suck but im workin on it

>>4384720
The technical critique is that I have no idea what I'm supposed to be looking at. I guess it's a person? I think I see a jaw line? It's impossible to tell though.
The aesthetic critique is that it looks shitty. It's a bunch of random grey scribbles obviously made by an inexperienced artist.
It's ok though, we all have to start somewhere. I believe that you can get better with hard work Anon.

>>4384730
>The technical critique is that I have no idea what I'm supposed to be looking at. I guess it's a person? I think I see a jaw line? It's impossible to tell though.
What?
Even a half blind person would be able to tell that it's supposed to be a lion.
I'm all for harsh critique, but now you're just shitting on that anon for no reason.
>The aesthetic critique is that it looks shitty. It's a bunch of random grey scribbles obviously made by an inexperienced artist.
That's fair critique.

How is the composition and color use in this?
I really find it hard to judge my environments since you don't have the obvious feeling of disgust like with a bad figure drawing, so I can't tell the issues at all.

Also, how do you make an image like this look more "finished" without actually having to render out every single pebble with autistic detail? This is probably the most finished looking environment I have made so far and it still doesn't look finished at all.

>>4384729
Your eyes are in a different perspective compared to the head (head is more tilted to the side while the eyes are almost full on front view)

>>4384729
Try making the jawline to the ear more horizontal at the start and vertical at the ear instead of just a straight line towards the ear.
The head looks like a cone shape the way you made the jawline.

>>4384733
I did not know it was a lion until I looked at the reference

no idea how this is looking but i think it came out okay considering im pushing past my comfort level

>>4384745
The hair kinda ruins it.
Try to be more deliberate with your lines while drawing the hair.

>>4384745
You gave her a man jaw

>>4384747
yeah i suck at hair, i had a hard time just getting the volume and head shape riight.
>>4384751
shit i agree, maybe soften the chin and take a bit away?

from ref practice study

>>4384730

Thanks for the reality check.

>>4384733
Come to think of it, anon has a point with the critique of my drawing. Only the mann really resembles a lion.

>>4384760
Tiddies have a good weight too them

So here is every comic I've made scanned and edited. I suck at consistency still.

>>4384666
This is a cover of a comic I'm working on. Harsh critique only.

>>4384863
keked and liked. Keep at it!

>>4384868
Sorry, can't be too harsh. The tiger is pretty sick. Did you use any sort of references for it?
Overall something about it does feel amateurish but I can't put my finger on it. I guess the big solid areas of color aren't working for me but also it shouldn't be impossible to do a minimalist background. Maybe try looking for pro examples of covers/posters with more minimalist backgrounds and see how they're able to make their work feel more dynamic than yours.

>>4384909
Thank you, anon. The only refs I used for the tiger were just pictures of tigers on Google Images.

I searched up some minimalistic comic covers. Do you think that mines doesn't work because my main character is essentially just standing in front of the viewer? Cause the covers I saw had much more dynamic designs where things were actually happening.

>>4384863
These are great

>>4384963
She looks like a child, weird proportions. The torso as well as the arms look too short and the head too big. It has soul though, keep at it!

anything wrong with this one?

>>4384972
Shit! I really messed up the proportions.

Thanks anon!

>>4384972
But she is a child

This my first time drawing a person that isn't standing in a neutral pose. Am I doing this right? Is there anything obviously wrong that I am missing?

>>4385038
Children don't have tiddies.

>>4385045
My ref

>>4385045
Don't chicken scratch too much.

>>4385049
I am trying to work on line confidence. What about the other aspects of the drawing though? I know I have to work on hands and feet too but is there anything else I should know?

>>4384701
please leave /beg/ stop shitting on us

okay here the body is from imagination and then I used color-pick from a photo cause I was curious what the result would be

>>4385083
The result seems to be that you lack dark darks. I like it though. Keep it up.

Ok
I started drawing 5 monts ago
Now i feeling more "comfortable" with hands
Need practice with faces in perspective and feet anatomy...and other things
In the image im trying to draw witout erasing
Is that a good exercice?
I usually sketch and construct first
Its ok to practice drawing witout skecth sometimes?
Do you have any advice for inking drawings, any book?
Should i start drawing bodies in diferent perspectives? How do i put them in a scenario?
Drawing one image/thing again and again its a good execercise?
How to stop rushing?
How to obeserve details/errors?
Uh...sorry if i explain miself like an retarded but i don't speak/write in english often.

>>4384666
Making some AT Porn for some smucks. How do I render like this?
>>4385002
Smooth. I don't see anything wrong. Got all the main muscles on the core.

>>4385207
I do this in 20 min maybe
Too much i think

>>4384666
I tried to combine a wec car with an indycar. Please no bully.

>>4385219
This is the first "finished"
Daily i do some sketches of torsos, heads, arms
I practice hands for a while only to aviod doing "hidden hands" drawings

>>4385207
>>4385219
>>4385233
boi get yourself some actual drawing paper
ditch the lines

>>4385083
COOM

>>4384729
Wheres its thumb

>>4384729
>>4385255
I'm amazed no one noticed until now

>>4385238
yes i bought a couple of sketchbooks
was the time
maybe post some drawings with a better image tomorrow

Any of yall ever go through a period where you feel too stressed about drawing to draw, and feeling that you can't improve or that you can't learn how to draw better? I'm having those feelings really badly right now. How do you get rid of them?

Here's a sketch I did recently. Currently doing peter han dynamic sketching and trying to get better at drawing basic shapes with confidence.

>>4385296
You just focus on something else. Usually pick up the pencil with a focus on something other than getting good.

how do i get the light values on a colored piece in photoshop?

>>4384698

I don't even want to make it, I like making art.. none of you would even call it art. I think you guys are paying wway too much attention to structure and fundamentals and way too little to soul and emotions and trying to put them into your paintings.

I guess I'm in the wrong place. What am I doing here?

>>4385368
This is one of the best posts in a long time.

>>4384736

Im a beggar also, but I like it (mostly) and it looks finished (in the bare minimum sense) at least in most parts, except the white blob. What is that and why is that there? Elaborate, pay more attention to it?

Also elaborate on the lava squirts from the towering black rock on the left. Make the lava flow in trickles not streaks of it down the rock?

Also I find myself thinking where is this big lava river from. Should it be shown somewhere on pic? Does it flow left or right?

Reposting this from last thread, any critque is appreciated

I don't understand this arm

>>4385381
What's so hard? It's the arm seen from the back. The top left part is the scapula.

>>4385214
Anyone?

>>4384863
Garbage lmao

>>4385477
Post your comics. There is a regular comic thread on /ic/ and honestly everyone posting in there is worse than that anon in terms of story telling and humor.

>>4384868
The clothing is bringing this piece down. Try using lighter lines. The wrinkles and folds seem arbitrarily put, it took me awhile to understand what’s happening. Less is more friend.

>>4384863

This is fucking amazing. WOW lol

Art is questionable on this board you will be made fun of but LMAO haha

Start it up and post it daily or bi-daily or weekly you will have 100.000 followers soon

>>4385529

I'm waiting and googled but you didn't really have it online yet? asap please dude lol

>>4385230

>>4385539

>>4382154

hrgtnzai dont like this painting i did
teeenkittywhy
hrgtnzaim going to drop pipe drain unblocker liquid on it
hrgtnzaits not bad its about depression
hrgtnzadepression so hard that
hrgtnzaa plant a seed
hrgtnzaa housplant a tree
hrgtnzawould get tired of sunlight
hrgtnzaso there is black rain
hrgtnzaim going to drop unblocking liquid on it
hrgtnzayou use this chemical
hrgtnzaon your toilet or drain unblocked
hrgtnzain your house
hrgtnzai shouldnt have said this
hrgtnzabut here goes...
hrgtnzasorry
teeenkittywhat for?? may not need omg
hrgtnzado you know what happened?
hrgtnzai cant believe it
hrgtnzai painted over my painting with toilet clearner
hrgtnzai thought it would dissolved into nothing
hrgtnzalike gray and melt
hrgtnzaand?
hrgtnzait went white and gray
hrgtnzaand
hrgtnzain 2 minutes
hrgtnzait went back into EXACTLY what it was
hrgtnzathe FUCKING SAME
hrgtnzai wanted to destroy it and nothing happened
hrgtnzai think its a good lesson
hrgtnzayou cant undo past mistake in life ever
hrgtnzanow my house smells like a swimming pool
hrgtnzaim going to open a window
teeenkittymaybe it's a sign that destroying is a bad idea?

>>4384666

>>4385605
How do I learn to do landscapes like you

>>4385606
Post your attempt and we'll tell you how to adjust.

>>4385379
feedback please, or else I'll start drawing waifus for attention

>>4385045
Always pay attention to where things are in relation to each other. That's really the biggest mistake here.

For example:

1. (Red) Note the distance between the middle of the torso and either side in the ref, then note how you moved the middle more to the center.
2. (Green) Note the angle that the bottom of the feet are in relation to each other, then note how farther down the back foot is in your drawing.
3. (Blue) See where the knee is in the back foot in the ref? It's completely hidden. Yours is visible.

Things kinda start fine at the top, then they get messier and messier as you progress. Always pay attention to key locations of things in the ref so you can replicate it as closely as possible.

Also watch yourself when drawing harder poses. We tend to try to straighten out the figure to match closer to the neutral pose we're so used to (this is why you moved the mid line of the torso). Always check the relative distance of the center line from the sides so you don't fall into this trap.

>>4385379
Clean up your lines. No-one can see anything.

>>4385627
why are you using such blurry refs? wtf

ugh is this gonna be ok

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3

>>4385659
STOP DRAWING *cough* THIS SHITTY *achoo* ASS ANTHRO MEME CRAP *cough cough wheeze* GODDAMMIT

>>4384729
Just you hold on, Anon. Ima redline that hand for ya

>>4385529
>>4385532
Don't get /beg/grs hopes up with sarcasm like this

>>4384972
Is it any better?

>>4385726
Her cheek is a little fat but these have been very nice the last few days bro. You're definitely getting better.

watercolours are so fucking fun bros. i'm trying not to mess around with them too much until i have a basic grasp of fundies but they're great

>>4384736
Add a higher range of value. The lava should emit a glow of some kind. Use some more varied shading to add some structure to the floor and the mountain(?) on the left. It's hard to make out what half the stuff in this picture is.

Don't blend so much also, otherwise it all becomes one big smudge

So while I'm practicing my female Loomis skeleton, I wanted to ask this. So Loomis points out some "landmark" muscles. Which is so my figure looks like a person. However, the book only mentions a male version of those. I'm assuming I can still apply these muscles to a female right, but with less definition? I think that's what I mean, like, not as visible

>>4385002
Left hand too small.
It's good though.

>>4385775
You shouldn't assume and should just go pull up some images and see for yourself to prove it to yourself. We're working with reality here.

>>4385727
>>4385728
>>4385730
Not /beg/.

Please rip my anus apart

>>4384729
>>4385746
Alright, notice how I’ve fucked with your hand a little bit. Start off your hands as sort of rectangular slabs. This rectangular slab represents the palm, and you will notice that it extends further at the pointy finger and gradually (BUT NOT TOO MUCH) gets shorter as you work your way down to the pinky finger. Also when you draw your palm, draw four circles (evenly spaced from each other) at the end of the palm, like I have here. As for the thumb, it needs to be on the side of the hand where the palm extends the farthest.

On to the fingers: your fingers have three different sections. The first section (the base of the finger, directly connected to the palm) is the largest section, just under half the size of the entire finger. The other two sections (middle and tip) are the same length.

PROTIP: make hand poses on your own, just look in the mirror and take a pic, or look online for references. I’m still really /beg/ too, so take my advice as you will. I’m just giving you my version of dealing with hands. We’re both GMI, Anon

>>4385806

>>4385800
Nice values. I think the sword is too high. Looks like it's coming out of his wrist. Also that's on the chin?it looks like his hand is touching his chin or something. If you put more detail to clear up what's going on it'll probably look really good.

>>4385811
pyw

How do I do fellow anons?

>>4385822
he literally posted his work with pic included.

>>4384729
I attempted a redline, the things I'd say to remember is that the pointer finger is shorter then your middle finger so when in that pose they should be realitively the same length. Also you've essentially drawn the face from the front but the jaw etc from a 3/4 angle. shifting everything but the right eye to the left helps to fix that problem.

>>4384740
>>4384743
>>4385255
>>4385264
>>4385746
>>4385806
>>4385844

Yup, that confirms it. DON’T BOTHER posting on this thread if you aren’t drawing weebshit. Go to either an atelier or an /ic/ discord and get critique there instead.

Besides, /beg/s only critique other /beg/s here.

Pls bully doodle

>>4385784
Drawing copies of shit can never be "not /beg/" you retard

>>4384666
i keep trying to make my art look comfy but it feels like nothing i make has that comfy feeling im looking for. Any advice?

>>4385847
>I went to an anime website and decided to visit the artwork and critique board and now I'm mad most people draw anime
Anon...

>>4385870
How to do comfy art like this?

why does vilppu put so much emphasis on this part of the skull? the middle brow. I can never see it, or draw it properly

>>4385896
It's a plane shift.

>>4385877
>the “4chan is an anime image board!” argument

You know damn well that it has started to stray the fuck away from what it once was. For fucks sake, people rarely come on here to share about their anime/otaku obsessions like before, no. This site is only popular because of neo-nazis, /b/ raids and fake greentext stories.

Weeb shit should be dominant on /i/, considering that it’s mainly a hobby board while /ic/ is more so serious art critique and discussion.

>>4385896
Look at yourself in front of a mirror lifting your head as much as you can without losing sight from the mirror. See how the superior part of the eyesocket not only exceeds the lower one but becomes an upward, steeped hill? That's why.

>>4385870
Maybe?

gesture is ridiculously difficult

>>4385925
It’s difficult because you’re adding too much detail when at the moment it’s not really necessary. Gesture drawing is meant to literally just capture gesture. Then once you have it, you can go in and add the details.

>>4385819
>I think the sword is too high. Looks like it's coming out of his wrist.
Noted and changed
>Also that's on the chin? it looks like his hand is touching his chin or something.
Yeah that ended up being his scapula, but that's probably not very accurate; regardless I'll make that read better.
>If you put more detail to clear up what's going on it'll probably look really good.
I'm not quite sure how to do that, but since I'm using a mostly low-key lighting details need to be scarce.

>>4385870
What are you looking up to?

question about studying plants/folliage irl. does it matter to you guys if the plant is 'natural' or or pruned/landscaped? i live in a fucking desert so i dont have a lot of options when it comes to drawing trees and shit in their natural setting

>>4386012
oh and i wonder this because some plants like italian cyprus's look way different when you tame them

>>4384666

>>4385749
Better, just consider the skirt is very short now, but I don't think you would care.

>>4385916
Thanks! i guess making it warmer kinda works >>4386004
i want to be able to push up values without making it look unnatural and the colors looking messy but on purpose,i want to have that sense of atmosphere on the picture like the stuff from artists like Marco Bucci, Ty Carter, Louie Zong or pic related

>>4385842
Kind of awkward... is the mage meant to only come up to the height of red dude's crotch? If they are supposed to be of similar height at this perspective, either make mage bigger or make red guy smaller. Or change the horizon line

>>4385779
not whoever but i disagree

i wish i was good enough not to have to post in /beg/

WIP currently

How imporant is the sketching process. I feel like i am neglecting it since the actual drawing builds upon it.

>>4385645
I think you meant >>4385045

>>4386164
As important as you feel it is, you're the artist, you get to pick what's important and what isn't.

first time trying to colour a sphere and shade a sphere looks with flesh tones, looks horrible

>>4386248
Go to youtube. Look up Sycra's light and shadow tutorial. Watch all of it and copy along. Then come back and show me your flesh tone.

>>4385375
>>4385767
>The lava should emit a glow of some kind.
I thought I actually went way overboard with the lava glow lol. I think I won't push that even further though. With the foreground I thought it's better to keep it less defined so that the focal point stays the focal point (that's why the lava on the top left has barely any glow at all)
I'll try pushing the value range more and add more hard edges around the focal point(especially the "white blob" haha), thanks!

>>4385727
>>4385728
>>4385730
you're not beg gestureflow

>>4385747
That guy has talent for comics though, there are successful comic artists that have shit art like this and that anon is still a /beg/ so he will eventually get better there.

>>4384736
>travelling stick salesman
gmi

why is this /beg/ thread so much less /beg/ than other /beg/ threads?

>>4386379
everyone that's not making 10k a month is getting sent to /beg/ so we are accumulating good artists

>>4386374
I literally gave that guy a stick because of that meme kek

>>4386386
I'm in every beg thread, the art in this one is much less /beg/ than others , or at least much higher effort

>>4386390
Then it's just a coincidence

>>4386018
Huge eyes
Huge face

I hated drawing this thing at first. But after finishing it and looking at it upright, it actually made me laugh. So this is the first step?

Also
A few days ago I drew a kobold in dim designed denim and posted it everywhere other than 4chan, but couldnt get a single soul to say a word about it. I cant tell if its fine or terrible but if I cant get a single person to say something about it I feel like I'll go crazy. Maybe I have gone crazy. Please tell me what you think.

https://i.imgur.com/WdYAlWG.jpg

>>4386407
nice assless chaps lol

>>4386407
the lines ! you're just starting out - DO NOT develop this wrist destroying habit.
Everyone likes clean lines, even if it's slightly wrong one line is so much better than 1372908390 lines - yyou can actually see your mistakes and improve that way

>>4386410
Thank you

>>4386024
>is the mage meant to only come up to the height of red dude's crotch?
Yes

>>4386416
Ok
Does the line practice thing from drawabox work with mrchanical pencils? I tried it with a pen like it asked for but after killing two pens i decided it wasnt worth it since i dont have very many. But I do have a virtually infinite supply of cheap pencils and mechanical pencil lead. And now that I've typed all this it seems silly for me to ask. Im just gonna go ahead and do it anyway.

>>4386164
>How imporant is the sketching process?
Extremely fucking important. If you can’t make shit up on the fly during your painting process (which literally no-fucking-body can do except for Bob Ross) then you need to have a sketching phase for your paintings. And I suggest spending a decent amount of time in this phase, because you don’t want your people to be horribly disproportionate/landscape to be terribly distorted.

>>4385842
>>4386422
Keep in mind where the verticals lead to, the red dude seems very top heavy, especially his head is gigantic compared to his legs. I'd use three point perspective here and draw a box around him to get a better feel for it.

>>4386423
Idk what is in draw a box. I heard it's a meme site, try scott robertson how to draw for something really good on perspective.

>4385847
>REEEEEEEEEEE IM MAD THAT PEOPLE DON’T DRAW IN THE MOST REALISTIC ART STYLES OUT THERE BECAUSE ANIME IS NOT FORMAL ENOUGH FOR MY TASTE
Would’ve given you a (You) but I don’t wanna give a crab (as well as a massive faggot) any satisfaction

>>4386442
not whoever but only ever drawing animu is fine if you only want to be able to draw anime but its like cargo cultism its symbol drawing without understanding the forms. Plenty of skilled artists have probably started drawing just anime but to be better they needed to branch out

>>4386454
At least he's not drawing furries....OH FUCK

I swear posting on this board has left me a masochist, but... I noticed something thanks to a kind anon in regards to 3d thinking, I'm shit at it but also my muzzle was 40 degrees out and not one person could put their finger on it as to why it looked weird, were they being too kind or was it genuinely that fucked, anyway here's my "attempt" at fixing said fuckery.

>>4386444
leave beg

>>4383123
trying to learn to do things in one line, from imagination and then reference into memory drawings
>tfw no chunky asian gf

>>4386475
But people don't gimme feedback in other threads.

>>4386485
so you want a bunch of clueless noobs to tell you what to do?

>>4386444
I think it's fine to do this for the sake of enhancing the tiddies, but the blue light on them makes no sense to me compared to where it hits on the rest of her body (really not something that needs fixing tho).
Also leave /beg/ ffs

>>4386444
make the colors of her and her clothes more red imo, lessen the highlights maybe? look at reference of forges by other artists

>>4385862
pretty meh!

>>4386021
Ok, thanks anon!

>>4386018
Are you going for a caricature look? If so I think it would work better if you make some features smaller. Instead of everything be bigger.

>>4386124
don't we all?

>>4386531
well some seem to be but post here anyway

>>4386530
No I am going for realism but I tend to fuck up the proportions. It's weird though, I'm starting with a Loomis head, I'm dividing the width of the head by 5 at eye level, starting with spheres and building around them. But somehow when I'm done, they end up too big. I guess I'm building them up too much and I should start out smaller in the construction phase.

>>4386379
I will pretend it is because I improved!!

>>4386444
do she have vitiligo?

fuck guys I was playing around with this face and I sorta adccidentaly made one that resembles some celebrity or someone from the internet I have seen this face somewhere

I like it so much when the eyelids are shaped like that and also those lumps under the mouth, maybe I represent them clumsily but I think you know what I mean

do you recognize someone in this so I can perfect it

>>4386018
everything about it looks like people I know in a non idealized way some people just have large features, except for the eyes which came out looking stylistic which is fortunate if not intended. Ofc the hair could use work but it dosnt look like you tried there

>>4386036
Question :when I post things like this on Instagram, do you think people think im a retarded manchild dunning Kruger case, or do you think they would think hey that's pretty impressive. Do they see that I can draw car proportions in perspective from imagination and do they know that's not easy, or do they just focus on the sloppy lines and associate racecars with little kids? I enjoy making them but I noticed that no one ever comments on them.

>>4386540
thank you for your service have have now graduated /r/beg

>>4386547
its me

>>4386478
more from imagination
>>4386248
try not to do it with so many brushstrokes, at least that's how I've seen others do it

>>4386548
Yea well I converted the picture to black and white and played with the contrast and her hair is just solid black. I could fill it all in but I didn't see the point on doing that until I had the face right which I don't. Lol. She is Japanese so she probably would be flattered that I made her eyes bigger but I'm gonna just start over and go for realism. But if I ask her I know she's gonna say it's nice no matter how shitty it is.

>>4386557
Not bad but legs don't get thicker as they go down.

>>4386540
I will pretend it is because I posted something this time

>>4386466
Fuck off furrfag

>>4386547
Incaseart?

>>4386549
Good question, asking means your not a total retard. Its not perfect (mainly whats going on with the front wheels and fender) but its not like your a professional artist, I would be proud of it and I think others might like to see it especially if they are interested in you enough to be on your media in the first place, it speaks of you and your interests and not poorly. Out of all the mundanity people post its always refreshing to see something personal.
I wouldn't worry about people commenting on them, they just dont feel the need to critique or praise, many see great art each day and don't appreciate the process. Post them for yourself to put some of you out there.

>>4386559
I know, if it weren't pen I'd correct it, but I like the way legs with thicker ankles look

>>4386568
Then try drawing your character from below (3 point perspective with low horizon)

>>4386466
dunno lad, a better artist with an anatomical understanding of the face might be able to tell but I just think the character sucks, just ref good furbies till you get it

>>4386563
It's that shit huh?
k

>>4386539
Try check the proportions at every step, so you can find in which stage you are messing up.

>>4386568
that looks like shit desu. i can't imagine why you'd draw a female but then makes the legs not sexy. even anime girls with huge boots have legs that taper down.

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>>4386594
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>>4386595
3

>>4386582
Not him but it's clearly a style (probably similar to things like Panty and Stocking). Not everything needs to be sexualized, you dumb coombrain.

>>4386547
okay anyway I changed it
I think this looks really nice

>>4386573
ok, one from imagination
>>4386582
whatever, I like it

>>4386604
Pretty nice, gj anon. Maybe play around more with angles like these, could become your "thing"

>>4386549
Basically if your work isn't pro quality then no one will care about it, unless you have friends that give you simple compliments like "oh cool Anon I didn't know you could draw". People are inundated with so much pro-quality art every day, why would they go out of their way to look at work that doesn't measure up to that standard?
Granted there are lots of e.g. webcomics and such with simple or shoddy art that have a lot of fans, so I'm not saying that you need to be an art god to get any viewers, but hopefully you understand the general idea. No one cares about study exercises you do, they only care about finished products.

>>4386614
thanks a lot, I'll try that,.
by the way, is it better to learn to draw things in 1 stroke by getting good first at using pencil, with construction and erasing, or should I keep trying as I was doing here >>4386478 to get things right on the first try?

>>4386641
you're getting better, I still hate these faces passionately. What books are you using ?

>>4386649
ow thanks but that sucks cause I genuinely thought it was super cute

i use all the known books on /ic/ but I struggle immensly with anatomy still, I really could be much better if I knew how to study better

in a few of months I will maybe get it all >.<

>>4386603
It does. Lol we have been telling you to do this for months.

>>4386018
I polished my turd

>>4386674
good job , I'll be honest though there's something creepy and uncanny valley about it. if I was in a room with it I'd make it face the wall

>>4385529
>>4385532
Where should I post other than Twitter?

>>4386682
The eyes are definitely too big.

I did this drawing by measuring the verticle proportions of the image (with a horizontal reference), but even using this method, I always draw the subject too wide. Should I have a horizontal and a verticle reference.

I'm mainly doing this to study proportion, since it's my biggest weakness.

Suggest other methods that I can use to improve proportion accuracy.

Based on
https://pin.it/FwdQXf8

>>4386602
>women don't need to be sexualized
>on the internet
>on 4chan
That's a good one.

>>4386628
ill take it. thats a lot more generous than i expected.

>>4386711
instagram. ill follow ye

>>4386726
you're not a smart one.

>>4386485
There are tons of peeps here that are far better and more skilled than meme.

>>4386492
I agree. I pushed it because I liked the idea of the blue light bouncing off her tits too much, but I prolly overdid it. Also where would I go?

>>4386736

>>4385368
Soul and emotion are good, but if I can't even draw a face that looks like a face, then how am I going to show a face that has soul and emotion?

>>4386547
looks like the girl that plays in the suicide squad/joker spin off

how are the experiences you had with painting courses? I want to start one in the summer but don't know what to expect. Nothing serious, I just want to get basic skills to paint a landscape here or there

>>4386018
>>4386674
I actually kinda dig this but I think a lot of the weirdness is coming from you exaggerating important features based on what you think they look like vs what they actually look like. i.e. eyes are huge, lips have a lot of hard angles to convey her expression, collar bone is overdefined.

>>4386756
ew

no ref tree thingy for line flow and weight practice

>>4386778

Don't even try to make it anatomically correct. There's time to learn that. Just paint your feelings into something face-like or even just something else whatever colors or shapes that depict your emotions.

I know I'm anarchistic and unorthodox in this board..

>>4385747

Wow sour much? Someone can "make it" not according to your standards and it scares you?

I'm a beginner who was given a driven a drawing tablet by a friend. with my end goal of doing digital art in mind, would it be a bad idea to start off learning digital, or should I start with traditional pen and paper then transition?

>>4386833
Draw us something with your tablet in digital and I'll tell you.

>>4386253

No need for thanks, gl dude or dudette. Just one more question: should the focal point maybe be chosen by the viewer? Like make them look for what is important? Just an idea. I mean it might be strange for a huge near-the-viewer object like that rock on the left to be off-focus.. maybe.. Have fun!

>>4386833
Not /beg/, but I learned to draw via digitally and it's fine. Only issue is the hand-monitor coordination is something you'll have to get used to. Try to avoid always using ctrl+z, there's still an eraser tool.

The only flaw is, personally, I naturally draw very small because I'm so used to drawing digitally only.

>>4386604
>>4386644
some more from ref and memory then one from imagination based on an image I saw in 2017 . Will find it and compare!
>>4386814
really nice way of rendering

>>4386828
Thanks for the advice, but, you probably can't draw faces or anything else for that matter.
If you can just paint your feelings and the end result is acceptable to you, then that's great, but for most of us it doesn't work like that.

>>4386845
forgot to finish her hair but this was fun,, I'm going to do this more

>>4386828
There's also nothing anachronistic about your way of thinking, it's pretty contemporary or at least it's 19th century.
Renaissance artists would have looked at you funny and then went back to stusying perspective.

>>4386853
finished her hair, first ones reference then memory, second is imagination based on the pose >>4386853 I remembered from 2017, this was fun

>>4386851

You are right I can't. I tried, made some small progress, but found out I can skip forward to making paintings I like without spending years on it.

>If you can just paint your feelings and the end result is acceptable to you, then that's great, but for most of us it doesn't work like that.

Why?

>>4386854
>Renaissance artists would have looked at you funny and then went back to stusying perspective.

That's their business. I don't really look up to them.

Still.. Is the starry night correct in perspective and structure, etc? I can totally see it being posted in /ic/ today and being ripped apart for lack of x fundamental.

But yea VAn Gogh was a ngmi alright. And gmi is why we are here or?

>>4386869
>Van Gogh was mostly self-taught. He taught himself to draw using a range of books about drawing techniques, perspective and anatomy. He created his own study programme, which saw him copy endless examples of drawings.

>>4386876

I didn't say you shouldn't study books, I said you have time.

Fourth sculpture in clay I've ever done. Used a couple of old man faces as references later on for more detail.

>>4386799
well i appreciate the compliment but the proportions are definitely wrong. its weird... i actually drew this mostly upside down and sideways just to avoid exactly what you're talking about. eyes are most important so we tend to draw them bigger. so i went into this consciously trying to avoid that, but fell right into it again. I actually measured the eyes out with a ruler when i was constructing the head. idk i guess i gotta do some loomis heads. apparentyl im quite rusty

>>4386869
Saying that people here would criticize Starry Night because it "lacks fundamentals" is such a strawman. There's actually a lot of abstract art that I like. One of my favorite paintings ever is Duchamp's The Large Glass. But I also want the ability to accurately depict humans in a range of different poses and situations. To acquire that skill, emotion is not enough. It requires knowledge and practice.

>browsing /ic/ instead of drawing again
ugh

>>4387014
>browsing /ic/ guilt-free because you already put in 5 hours for the day
Based

>>4386674
You could embrace the exaggeration and go full caricature.

Why does Keys to Drawing basically tells you to "just render bro" in exercises right off the bat without even explaining how
What a shitty fucking book

>>4385925
now here's me doing the bean

reference study

Why do all /beg/ paintings look like this

>>4387039
asukafag is that you? this is disgusting, what have you done?

>>4387035
if you love beans so much why don't you just use one to create a figure?

>>4387052
why :( I am trying to draw more and more from reference

practicing hatching, dont know if the shading looks accurate

Are there any major errors I am not seeing other than the awful pose?

>>4387059
is this from ref? give her some pantsu at least you fucking degenerate

>>4387060
how am i supposed to nut to it then retard

>>4387055
i cant even get a regular bean or gesture right, what makes you think i can complete a figure?

>>4387060
>is this from ref?
No but using some would have probably made the pose less boring.

>give her some pantsu at least you fucking degenerate
The final version bight have another character in from of her crotch anyways.

>>4386866
2 from imagination
>>4386644
bumping for this question
>>4387059
it's cool pose, It's not boring at all
>The final version bight have another character in from of her crotch anyways.
headpatting furiously?

Did my first commission today and they liked it we're makin it

>>4387074
how to get in commissions? I barely know anything about it - do you make any substantial mount of money? how do you not get ripped off by them over the net? what stops them from refusing to pay you , or from you just giving them pic related and demanding money?

>>4387074
Good job but make sure not to undervalue yourself

>>4387071
>it's cool pose, It's not boring at all
I just feel like the torso is too straight or something, I don't know.

>headpatting furiously?
Not quite, she's a psychic and currently in the process of torturing another.
Pic related.

where should a faggot like me start?

>>4387064
ok calm down bean boy, if you love proko so much why don't you just go and watch him then?

>>4387131
STOP, and i already have several times but the information doesn't keep

>>4387101
I don't see any obvious faults looking at it , I think it conveys the message well and that's all that matters
>>4387071
another

>>4387035
These exercises are worthless lol
Do you think this is how Proko actually learned to draw
Well actually he can't draw so I guess that's a dumb question

>>4387074
You use PayPal or what?

>>4387035
nice beans you got going there, some pretty good beans

>>4387039
the shading is hella off

>>4387144
i took your advice and decided to unwind and just draw
>>4387153
i feel like i cant overlap them properly

>>4387168
yeah it was very difficult with all the different colors

>>4387039
You're improving pretty fast, but your faces are still hideous.

>>4387187
it's okay
we're all learning and you can do much better than so many people here

>>4387142
another from imagination
is it better to learn in pen or pencil if the goal is to draw with 1 line for 1 stroke with no construction? it's easier here in front views but other perspectives it's really difficult

>>4387187
well, keep at it, im sure you'll figure this out on the go. Also use the color wheel because even tho youre working with all browns, you have different hues and the palette just looks wrong

I just wanna know if my "style" or whatever is shit or if there's hope for me to go somewhere with this stuff. BF says my art is all too round, and that my faces need a lot of work.

Open to critique and any advice.

(Finished stuff up on top, rough sketches and WIPs on bottom.)

>>4387197
>1 line 1 stroke no construction
That's a dumb goal. Look up any video of any pro drawing who's not KJG, they erase a ton. Just use pencil.

>>4387207

ugh shit forgot to upload, here it is

>>4387207
where tho?

did this yesterday and got sloppy with the tats because it was already like 3am... the rest is open for your CC
>inb4 fag

>>4387207
It's kinda cute, obviously there's lots of room for improvement though. I don't get why so many people want to have "a style" though. Why would you want just one "style"? Why don't you want to draw pieces that look one way at certain times and then at other times you draw another way? That's just me though.

>>4387219
NOT /beg/
leave this thread

>>4386998

I concede my point. Let's see again in a thread somewhere else

What should I do if my ability to write and draw basic shapes looks like this?

What do you anons think :>

>>4387247
That's why I said "style," as that's not really what I'm going for. I mostly meant the overall aesthetic my art has.

Where do you think the most improvement needs to happen? I draw in MS Paint to be completely honest, I'm sure moving into a better software would be a good first step in simplifying the process but in my anatomy, coloring, etc...?

>>4386814
keep at it fzdschool bro

>>4387032
well i could but if i do that it should be on purpose, not because i missed my target.

>>4387256
Completely irrelevant, do the usual stuff that gets recommended. You aren't retarded.

>>4387251
It's very /beg/ and he should stay in this thread.

>>4387039
idk which hairline is funnier

>>4387260
Not them but your colors are pretty strong for what they are already already but there's not much on display in terms of anatomy or perspective. I'd suggest breaking out a pencil and paper and practice some foreshortening and building forms on figures. I imagine line weight is a pain in the ass to work with in paint.

>>4387197
1 more from memory, but fucked up the pose
>>4387208
if he can do it we can too right? it sounds like a noble pursuit, it looks cooler, extends lifespan of wrists, more genuine, allows a lot more creative potential - seems like a good goal to aim for if you want to master drawing

>>4387283
ref

>>4387282
Mmm yes, foreshortening is something I tend to avoid because I find it very difficult to pull off well but practice can only help. I often doodle in my notebooks in class but don't draw seriously with pencil and paper very often.

Will try, though, thank you.

>>4387288
When in doubt working on what you know you struggle with is usually a safe bet. Good luck.

>>4387270
How is my ability to put lines onto paper "completely irrelevant"?

>>4387291
Because these things can be trained and at the point where you're testing yourself with basic shapes and letters your innate ability isn't worth worrying about unless you think you have an actual disability

>>4387256
>tfw have just as shitty handwriting
Brother, how is it going

>>4387299
>Because these things can be trained
Then how do I train them, smart-arse?

>>4387302
Keep drawing them until you can draw them well you fucking ding dong

How does this look?

>>4387306
a little boring to be honest with you

>>4387305
I just draw shapes over and over again and somehow get good at drawing them even though I don't know where I'm going wrong?

>>4387314
It’s from a ref so I’m not really worried about composition, I’m mainly asking if it looks competent.

>>4387320
In this case yes absolutely because I know you know what a star is supposed to look like and you will get closer to it every time you draw one.

Just some shit I did today, reference from a video

>>4387283
top right from ref, bottom imagination

>>4387306
like a boy. resize your smut, faggot

>>4387306
For a lineless work it looks insecure and kinda incomplete

Ok this is fairly fuckin easy. Can i draw Big oppai futa now?

>>4387386
Of course you can, who's gonna stop you?

>>4387386
go for it king

>>4387342
The bottom one is pretty sick, how long have you been drawing?

>>4387256
draw a box or the peter han course

>>4387257

refreshing

>>4387175
how's this one?

>>4387645

Are we allowed to post just really degenerate shit for critique? I've never really used this thread before but I want to improve on the deliveries I'm making.

>>4387702
no furries.

>>4387732
K, is most other stuff fine?

NEW

>>4387749
>>4387749
>>4387749

>>4385958
I am once again asking for critique.

>>4387740
idk. nudity is ok but no cp or anything like that

>>4387785
Ah shit my bad then, I didn't post loli or anything like that but what I posted was really nsfw. I'll remove it then.

>>4387763
The colors are neat
Maybe is the pose but the arm feels a little short also the cloth around it makes it look fleshy instead of bony

thoughts?
>>4385207
>>4385219
>>4385233
2 minutes each body
>>4386063
>>4386067

>>4389461

And this protrait in 15 aprox
It still need to restate the lines
Make detail?
Make shadows more darker...right?

>>4386023
>>4385870
cool

>>4384666
I have not drawn in 5 weeks fuck