/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Terrible advice. You can do anything. Fucking start tracing.

How do I do on body proportion and gesture? Am I do good?

>>4381050
Perspective is ok but it doesn't look like a person. Your proportions are off. Do some mannequins, then put the mannequins in perspective. It'll still look like cylinders but it'll correct the proportions. Or draw from ref or both.

>>4381050

>>4381083
>/beg/

>>4381047
Real talk for a moment, if you trace in a smart way you can make gains. Some people just can visualize form unless it’s in front of them. One thing I have learned is that every pro has their own secret they won’t share like a magician. Even those that stream daily look they they have everything figured out but they probably do preparation before turning the camera on themselves.

What are all the perspective resources you guys know of? Which ones have you found the most helpful?

Successful Drawing by Loomis
How to Draw by Robertson
Perspective Made Easy by Norling
Marshall Vandruff's 1994 lecture videos
Handprint guide to perspective (heavy on math and light on drawing techniques, wish I was a NEET with unlimited time so I could absorb all of this but I'm not sure if that's actually the best investment)

>>4381100
wrong.

https://discord.gg/U9Nyyu2

>Discord for /beg/'s and artist who want to help /beg/'s

>>4381104
Not shutting you down but whenever you mix discord and 4chan it's just drama and people being people

>>4381050
Whenever I see crap like this I feel good and realize that I've actually improved over the years.

>>4381121
why is you being mean??

>>4381108
No doubt. But I'll take my chances - artists who actually want to art will make art

>>4381121
Not >>4381123, but PYW or you haven’t improved, maybe give helpful advice as well crab

>>4381121
Rude!

>>4381034
definetly made her head too big, gonna try coloring the lineart

>>4381140
Do you masturbate to this

>>4381145
Don't you?

kyle faces study

>>4381145
thats irrelevant im just trying to get good

a lot of you aren't really beginners though IJS

>>4381170
Like who?

>>4381161
So that's a yes, then. I'm just fascinated by fetishes. I find it strange but you have good line work. I wish I could understand how fetishes develop. I've never drawn my own porn but I can appreciate that your fetish must be quite rare and that you've put in great effort to make your own.

>>4381159
>kyle faces
Please no

>>4381172
thanks man

>>4381159
Might as well just mentor under Kyle. He would make you good.

>>4381121
If it took you a few years to be better than that anon or even compare yourself, then you’re still /beg/.

I'm beginning to think that I need an Apple iPad Pro.
Everything else just has too much parallax/disconnect.

>>4381276
Easy for you to say as a /beg/, but you’ll see too.

>>4381293
>seething retarded /beg/

>>4381100
The fastest way to learn art is by tracing. However it is takes a lot of grit to do the trace method.

I am talking about 1,000 hours of tracing.
That is why Michelangelo burnt all his /beg/ tracing. He said it himself, if people knew how much work he actually put in, they won't say it is talent. In fact, he probably hated the idea of talent. Which is why he hated Leonardo da vinci.

If you study art history, you will understand, Michangelo traced on rice paper to carved it into the wall for his Sistine chapel, as a form of image transferring. He understood tracing because he trained with it.

Shut the fuck up and kneel you worthless /beg/ retards

>>4381301

what could michaelangelo possibly trace

>>4381302
stfu, pyw, don't fuck with /beg/
warning you bitch.

>>4381304
A lot of men, probably even used projectors, dig up graves to study anatomy. Etc.

>>4381309
>probably even used projectors
source for rennaisance projectors?

>>4381311
>probably

>>4381322
Eyes need to be lower on the head. Remember as a rule of thumb when you're looking down, the ears should be higher. If you're looking up, ears are lower.

>>4379680
>>4379795
continuing with single layer imagination drawings. Should I build a new harem. tell me who is best girl
>>4381159
>>4381186>>4381256
who?
>>4381322
looking from the thrumbnail the colors are not giving a focal point, and are maybe too grey all over. the cat ears and the eyes - try what it looks like if you make them more saturated?
I don't know much, but as a /beg/ they look unappealing.

Okay, so when can I move on to figure drawing?

I've been practicing basic shapes, shading those basic shapes, and then drawing them in multiple point perspective? How long should I do this before I can move on to drawing the human form, then anatomy?

>>4381371
Pyw

>>4381371
if you love the human figure so much why don't you go and draw it then?

>>4381371
Whenever you want really. You should work at your pace

>>4381380
Because I read I need to learn perspective and shading first, and to draw basic shapes.

>>4381385
You aren't gonna learn the perspective and shading of a human body, if you're working on shapes kek

>>4381385
If you love basic shapes so much why don't you go and draw them?

>>4381322
It looks like the tip of her nose was cut off.

Rip into this please

I don't really know how to do an anatomy study. I was just trying to copy isn't the right word but replicate the shapes I saw in the ref. Problem is I think im seeing things that aren't there because I don't know what to look for. A shadow might read wrong to me. It's obvious because even though the position is different you should still see the same muscles on both sides. How can I study anatomy better?

>>4381400
>>4381417
So you're saying I should move on from basic shapes and dive into figure drawing

>>4381432
why don't you dive into my basic shape?

>>4381426
why do I never understand what's going on in ic comic strips?

>>4381432
If you feel like you understand why perspective and shading is important and how it adds to your images. Then yes, move on.

>>4381450
Because I am an Asexual sphere with no orifices

>>4381452
I just wanted an excuse to draw leeches bursting out of a person

>>4381426
I honestly got a chuckle out of this, not being sarcastic, if you started uploading every week, stuff like this, you would hardcore make it.

>>4381459
Thanks anon, only reason I haven't been posting is because I thought my art wasn't good/consistent enough. Also i'm not sure where to post.

>>4381473
For me personally if the comic comes off as genuinely funny i don't really care about how polished the art is,and as you grow as web artist I suppose you learn new techniques and get a better feel for what you want your comic to be like, compared to others out there.

Most web comic artist have their own website or some shit like that I'm not sure if you could use twitter. Until you got your own shit.

>>4381356
shitty color, for fun

>>4381356
>>4381514
Are you even trying to frel the form?

>>4381533
no,
I want to not draw like that , it hurts the wrist.
Do I have a misconception?

>>4381356
>>4381514
Are you even trying to feel the form?

>>4381538
>>4381539

>>4381426
The characters themselves are stiff, but you could easily make an argument for why. The thing that specifically would need work is the shape and shading of the armour. Attached a pic to show what I mean

Well, back to Loomis for me. I did this before work, and there's like, 3 major issues. The torso is a bit long, the arms are a bit skinny and the legs just feel wrong. I feel like while my line work is cleaner and it looks closer to a human shape than before, it's uncanny valley wrong since it just feels off. Like, almost got it, but not really. Idk, critique or encouragement would be okay.

>>4381079
Don't use parallel lines for now. Stick with vanishing points on horizon. Learn about degree of elipses.
>>4381083
>>4381159
>>4381322
Rysuj dalej krabie. Praktyka czyni mistrza. Twoje uszy to porażka, zrób coś z tym.
>>4381107
Get some clean paper and resize pic before post
>>4381140
Looks very stiff. Study gesture and dynamic poses.
>>4381428
Don't focus on details and shading. Draw bigest parts of muscles only, like pecs and rectus abdomnisis
and use simple forms.
>>4381441
Nice studies, keep it up.

How long have you all been in /beg/

>>4381581
remove the pencil from the picture you fucking instagram normie

>>4381603
like a week

>>4381603
1.5 years and counting.
I think the healthiest way to view it is that being a /beg/ lasts for years. If you do more learning than creating then you're a /beg/. You'll know when you cross that threshold from "I'm learning how to draw" to "I can draw".

>>4381602
>looks very stiff
It's a fucking metal robot

>>4381581
scratchy lines and you drew the contour even on the toes. Go learn basic construction and apply it before worrying about anatomic inaccuracies

my first post ever here

concept art for a succubus character

I'm just starting to understand (conceptually) tridimensionality

>>4381140
Clean linework, looks like from a coloring book. Do you use ctrl-z too much? stabilizer? or is it vector inking?

>>4381626
So?

>>4381101
>What are all the perspective resources you guys know of?
I'll order them for you to the most easiest to the most difficult (imo).

Perspective Made Easy by Norling
Perspective Drawing Handbook D'Amelio (Vandruff based his lectures on it)
Vandruff's 1994 lecture videos
Creative Perspective by Watson (also recommended by Vandruff)
Successful Drawing by Loomis
How to Draw by Robertson
Robertson's perspective lectures (if you really want to draw cars)
Olson's perspective lectures (they aren't hard I guess but they are fucking long af, watch them at x1.5 speed or something)

>Handprint guide to perspective
Checking it rn and it seems really dense ngl

quick 2hr or so practice, critique please

posted a portrait on here two years ago, someone told me to go do loomis, so im back

>>4381659
me again
2hr total, recent
still a beginner, faces are about the only thing i can draw

>>4381634
like 10% stabilization and lots of erasing ends. I do it by big confident strokes and bringing the tail down to where I want it, and do another big stroke from there. normal rasterized layer because vector layers feel weird in csp.

>>4381664
>>4381659

>>4381651
>seems really dense ngl
It is dense as fuck. It might be the most comprehensive guide on visual perspective that exists. It's a shame that he doesn't give any in-depth examples on how to apply the theory to constructing actual drawings though. I wish someone would write a sequel.

>>4381634
>he doesn't think anyone can draw clean lines on digital
Just practice dude

I’ve been drawing my whole life (which at the moment is just 18 years) but I was a retard and refused to listen to anyone or ever use references until like 6 months ago so I guess I’m /beg/. Where do I go from here?

>>4381514
>>4381356
helful? useful?

What does /beg/ do to avoid getting overwhelmed? I dunno. I'm going through so many feelings. I like drawing, and thought I was doing better than before, but now I realize just exactly how much there is to do and learn that I almost want to give up for good. Because I feel I won't ever be good.

>>4381737
good is relative. normies will think you're good simply by not symbol drawing. /ic/ is way too neurotic about these things. we should use what we know to start making actual pieces instead of agonizing over shitty studies over and over until we quit: never even once producing an actual piece of art

>>4381706
christ that thing is fucking ugly

>>4381737
Draw what you enjoy and make sure you know why you're drawing desu. There's general studies and then dedicated studies honestly. Make pieces even if you think you suck, and make sure to aim to improve each time.

>>4381706
remember that millions of people died so that anon could draw this abomination

>>4381706
kill it with fire

>>4381799
>>4381803
>>4381804
stop being a crab and learn some taste

>>4381706
incredible piece, don't listen to these crabs.
you can leave /beg/

>>4381706
Honestly, when you're working with something like that. It's good to refer to the animal and even other artists. The colours are bad, the artwork is just unappealing and there's no sense of a light source. You need to go back to the basics son.

bros how do you decide what to practice/study? Are there any good outlines for exactly what to practice for fundies

thoughts?

>>4381811
another crab with no taste.

>>4381817
stfu you faggot

>>4381706
I guess "just draw" doesn't always work.

>>4381736
better or worse?

>>4381748
>>4381802
You know what, thanks. I appreciate that input. I forget that I'm doing this for fun, because I want to get the ideas in my head on paper (so to speak). I get in my head sometimes and think I'm always gonna be bad. As long as I keep trying to improve little by little, I'm making progress.

uhgg...

>>4381802
I'm the other reply, I still haven't figured out yet though how to actually make pieces, back in school art classes it was easier since you were given tasks and didn't care if it sucked since it needed to be finished, but now I'm so perfectionist now that everything from imagination / original works look like garbage and give up on them 1 hour in - looking through my old classwork I find it amazing how I was even able to do or think of half the stuff. I literally haven't finished a single drawing of anything since I started 3 years ago .
>>4381883
don't put lines in places like ribs and stomach, it makes it look like a draugr
save them for contours where there are hard edges like body -> background

>>4381891
>>4381896
don't waste canvases on doodles

>>4381900

They are ready paintings which I might improve and paint on if I feel like it.

They are work in doing.. I will repaint if my emotions make me say so

>>4381883
probably the best face ive seen you crank out. i like it. the pelvis is obviously out of perspective tho my dude. i mean just think about it. her right tit is higher, her right hip should not be lower. but its not bad. maybe dont draw so muh of the rib cage but i know thats partly construction. yea m8 i like it. horns might be out of perspective too. are you drawing a vanishing point? it might help

Hi bois.

>>4381847
Don’t just draw lines, try to understand the forms of each body part.

>>4381898
You shouldn't give up just because it's not meeting your expectation really. It's hard to draw from imagination and it's even harder to draw it right. It's why we use reference for most, if not all of our art work. I made it a habit for myself to finish pictures because you can't really progress if you keep stopping at the same point.

my cringe

>>4381898
i would love to just paint as much as possible without the lines but it's way harder
>>4381931
thanks well the idea was that her arm as it's raised it raises the boob a little and also she is slightly tilted to the left with her upper body

ofc I didn't convey this well

>>4381904
>>4381944
meant to reply to this

I'm tired of sunlight, sunlight, SUNLIGHT

god fucking dammit 4chan keeps rotating my art in whchever way it wants jesus

>>4381140
Imagine having this level of skill and only using it to draw lewd planes

>>4381944
Tits don't really move like how a male pec would. Skin is loser and more flexible

I've tried to draw cute bunny, but it end up looking stupid and derpy.

>>4381994
>implying ahegao is cute

>buys 3 packs of cheap gel pens because i remember writing with some of them felt great
>trying to ink sketches
>pen stops working within 5 seconds of use
>panic and start scratching all over the paper with it to get it to come back
>pen works immediately upon touching the paper with good lines and everything
>what the fuck
>try to ink sketch again
>pen stops working the second it touches a grain of led
>look up gel pens and find out that they have thick ink
>i wasted 6 dollars on pens i can't use
>bought 2 packs of USA Gold Pencils because I was running out of my generic brand ones
>tried to sharpen those pencils with the exacto knives and sand paper I bought based on Proko's tutorial and just ended up breaking all of them because the wood is too hard to sharpen without an electric pencil sharpener
I even threw away two ballpoints because their tips weren't as fine and sharp as the gel pens. I just got mindbroken by writing utensils.
Time to give up on imitating mangaka and ink digitally.

>>4381999
Stop using cheap pens, you get what you pay for in most cases.

>>4381926
What happened to this cute boy’s pee pee?

>>4381999
Ballpoints are actually kino though.

If you want good ink pens for inking traditionally, buy ones *meant* for art.
https://cowans.org/blogs/cowans-art-knowledge-know-how/artists-inks-pigemnt-vs-dye

>>4381999
>inking with gel pens
>mah nigga
Also waste of trips

>>4381944
god i love pubic hair and especially armpit hair

>>4381954
If you take a photo with your phone rotated, it adds an invisible tag to the image that tells the computer to rotate it in certain situations. If you take a photo with the phone upright all the time then you will have no issues with rotation.

>>4381706
I’m the anon who did this. I don’t like it very much either. Is this any better?

>>4382034
You did pretty well with the construction, but holy hairy line batman. You need to invest some time in your draftsmanship.

>>4382046
Not really.
But don't worry Anon, if you study hard for 5-10 years then you too can git gud.

>>4382053
brush i'm using is like a near-dead fineliner so i end up making more strokes than i need

>>4382053
>>4382075
idk how to feel about it

>>4382055
Thanks I guess. I don’t know if I could even get good in that amount of time though, I feel like I have fucked myself over so throughly with like 10 years of forming terrible habits and what not that I’m literally in a worse position to get better than someone who had never drawn in their life.

>>4382087
I can at least say that I’m improving a little bit though. This was an attempt to do the same thing in a piece about 5 months before the piece in that post.

>>4382095
dw anon, just do "proper" studying now that you have an idea of how the process works. Not everyone becomes a pro on day 1.

"Rust".

>>4381034

>>4382109
Where can I contact you to launder my millions?

>>4381581
My advice, stop trying to draw complete humans with fleshed out features for now. Learn the manikin frame, learn perspective, practice drawing the frame in different poses and angles like the book tells you to. Then you can further your studies, learn facial anatomy, arms, legs, hands, feet, etc. and how each one is constructed and fits together. THEN you can do your weird coomer art and it will actually look decent.

I’m working on something based on the new fire emblem. What do you guys think?

>>4381083
when you draw torsos you should try to render like this

>>4382138

???? Implying ????

>>4381847
contour drawing is good for silhouette practicing but you shouldnt do it everytime.You should feel the form by drawing the gesture then adding the details in a really simple fashion.Try to simply complex bad parts and see how they connect to eachother.

>>4382085
Hot. Post ref.

>>4381953

better version... better if 4can doesnt put it upside down or sideways or mirrored or i dont fuckinb know

I'm tired of Sunlight Sunlight Sunlight

"Blood Sweet Lips"

>>4381891
>>4381896
>>4381901
>>4381953
>>4382109
>>4382154
>>4382159
there is no value to this
these are child drawings first time using paints for kids
what is the point

>>4382165
That child drawing sells easily for 10-50k on an art auction. Never underestimate artnuts.

>>4382168
you mean never underestimate money launderers

>>4382095
>>4382087

Ah yes. copying.

i am trying my best

>>4382165

I made these and I like my paintings. I definitely enjoyed making them. Most people I asked commented "I would hang it on my wall". I think the paintings MIGHT be what you call pleasing to the eye but who knows, you never know. In any case they are not structurally or perpsectively correct (except the north star is pointed at by the two last stars of the big dipper) and zero loomis head sorry.

But I thought I'd post them here anyway in the beg because I'm beg. In the off chance there would be an interesting comment. And I'd maybe like to "improve" but as you said, kid's throwint paint at the canvas?

What is there to improve?

>>4382165

Blood sweet lips was made by improvisation in about 30 minutes. I asked a person to give me 1 to 3 words and I'd make a painting of it. They gave me blood sweet lips.

>>4382247

Now that I think of it it's only blood, but you can imagine the story and the sweet lips which stuck the knife in you

How bad is it folks?

>>4382297
Forgot pic

>>4382085

>>4382298
It's badly proportioned and the pose is stiff and boring. I recommend Loomis.

How do I show depth in a portrait view? Why is drawing faces so fucking hard! One wrong line and the whole thing is fucked.

am i doing it wrong?

How's a drawing like this done? Charcoal, graphite, or digitally?

>>4382440
It's graphite. If it's digital they're trying very hard to mimic graphite.

>>4382168
with photos this big i might make my own prints of them and make moneys.

>>4382440
damn that paper has some serious tooth. It looks like a damn wall

>>4382467
What makes graphite stand out from charcoal?

>>4382503
It's pretty common to high quality paper outside of your standard sketchbooks.

>>4382143
That it’s just some crappy “modern art” paint blob.

>>4381140
bit more progress
>>4381602
Yeah I have a really difficult time getting more dynamic shit, I need to try looking at pinups and shit
Need to understand colors more, something about this is really unnapealing to look at

>>4381928>>4382147

how to do this without many lines everywhere though?

>>4382608
Watch Vilppu do a figure drawing and you'll see how quickly (slowly) he does it.

>>4382400
some are a little wonky, but I can tell you're mostly getting what the exercise is trying to teach

>>4382392
i saw your other studies on the previous thread and i like your hatching. where did you learn it from?

>>4382567
very difficult to read what this is. I was sure I was looking skinned bananas all over the place
perhaps the lines on the plane should be straight er and more rigid for it to be understood as a plane
>>4382611
>https://mega.nz/#F!RIx3TJxJ!_Nna8t01kPxENJ8KSzXqwg!EUJHgKAZ
from 01 gesture in this link?

>tfw lack of perspective knowledge hinders construction which hinders anatomy
i fucking hate perspective

>>4382680
learning pure perspective is a meme
you'll just naturally get it as you draw more.
construction is also kind of a meme because boxes and cylinders are not body parts.
anatomy is the real thing though.

>>4382392
hi gesture

>>4382633
Looks like it. He's been doing it for a while, so he has many videos of him doing gestures. He always starts with the gesture in the later videos anyways.

>>4382686
>learning pure perspective is a meme
What? No it's not a meme at all.
Can you take a figure and draw it at any point receded in space while keeping it exactly the same height? Can you take any point on the surface of a box and find the same point on the opposite surface? Can you do a plan projection? These are concrete tools that immediately level up your drawing. Go watch Marshall's perspective videos.

>>4382611
can't do it without scribbling, it's some trash here
these are imagined, does he recommend reference using?
>>4382085
pose file?

>>4382611
can't do it without scribbling, it's some trash here
these are imagined, does he recommend using reference ?
>>4382085
pose file?

is there any problems with this b4 i start adding clothes?

>>4382788
unholy

>>4382788
Her face is all kinds of fucked up. Fix your proportions

heey bb i think it's really wonderful paint, if it were my will, i would buy such a picture. don't give up this thing, u're really talented. thank u xx

- ur ariela

>>4381941
What’s cringe is that you didn’t finish the outer edge of the hair. Everything else is alright

>>4381944
no dude you are mistaken. her butt is also very far away from her waist because the right hip is too low.

>>4382786
decided to polish one of these turds

>>4382795
More like this then for the face? At least placement of mouth and nose

>>4382855
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>>4382855
The back of her head is way too huge compared to her face.

>>4382819
That's obviously a highlight

>>4382860
>>4382858
?

>>4382865
LOL>>4382860
>>4382855
>>4382795
>>4382788

>>4382852
I'm bored

How tf do you draw hair

>be split 95/5 digital/traditional
>decide to do imaginative stuff traditionally
>have to work it out digitally because im guaranteed to make an asston of mistakes and erase my paper into oblivion
is this normal

>>4382902
It's normal for a /beg/ yes

>>4382902
my throbbing cock is normal

>>4382893
Anytime you have trouble drawing something, especially rendering a texture, you should get a good reference picture of it, zoom in close, make it black and white, just try to duplicate a small part. Forget about the face asks the background, only do sections of the hair. Make your background gray and only add lighter grays /white and darker grays /black. You don't have to make it perfect but it'll give you an idea of how to lay down hair.

Is it ok to use mannequins as a reference point when you’re still inexperienced? I don’t want to rely on them forever but I’m god awful at posing and proportions

>>4382966
Yeah sure go for it

>>4382967
hell that was fast. anything wrong with my sketch?

>>4382971
my dick is hard

>>4382971
Yeah it sucks.
Everything the same flat shade of grey, no variation in line weight, timid inconsistent shading, lazy fingers with no details, look up pictures of real forearms, they aren't supposed to be that symmetrical and the muscles don't fully taper off until right as you get to the wrist.

>>4382993
fucking finally, thanks. I’ll look up real life references. This is why I was afraid of using a mannequin

ugh

>>4383001
You shouldn't be afraid of using the mannequin. It's actually a really good exercise to set up a pose with the mannequin, but then draw a more natural-looking figure over that basic structure that DOESN'T end up looking like a wooden toy. Training yourself to be able to use that basic underdrawing as a guide for where the place things, but having enough freedom to not take the underdrawing super literally and not just straight reuse every line from it. It takes intuition and practice to be able to go from the blocky underlying structure to the flowy natural finished drawing but it's a very useful skill to have.
When you begin to transition from drawing from reference to drawing from imagination, you're going to want to construct your poses and scenes out of boxes in perspective. And then you're going to be in a similar situation as you are with the mannequin, you constructed your underlying structure out of simple blocky forms, and you want to use that structure as a guide for where to place things, but you don't want your figures to actually look like they're made of boxes. So you need the intuition and judgment to be able to transfer from one to the other.

>>4383016
thanks anon. it’s nice to get some actual criticism and pointers instead of just
>it looks fine
I’ll try to look more into line weight, shadow behaviors and proportions as a whole. I don’t really draw a whole lot but I still want to improve, even if at a snail’s pace

Does proportions of this figure look all right to you?

whats wong with this, it dont look right but i cant process wat it is. pls help

>>4382159
Deep.......

>>4383027
Literally everything is wrong with it. Pick a facial feature and start studying it, it doesn't matter which direction you go in, because there's nowhere to go but up.

>>4383024
Leg on the left is broken, calve should be following the direction of the thigh, look into how joints work and what kind of restrictions or flexibility our limbs get. The pose however, in general just looks unnatural though.

>>4383027
Eyes and nose too high, ear too far back and forehead is huge!

>>4383072
>>4383063
this was the ref

>>4383082
Overlay your drawing onto the ref and see where you went wrong. Trace over the ref. Compared the traced drawing to your drawing.
You weren't even close to hitting any of the shapes right so you need to practice doing that before you move onto shading or color. Do line drawings of faces, overly them in Photoshop or whatever onto the ref, see where you went wrong.

>>4382892
>>4382852
>>4382786
from reference then memory . is this useful? what should I be doing"? I'm so behind in university from drawing all this useless shit instead of studying

>>4383069
>The pose however, in general just looks unnatural though
If you mean the way legs are spread, I can explain that.

Trying to practice coloured lighting, how did I do?

>>4383010
Boxes, Asuka poster. Come on its that hip or of perspective again. You can do this. You must see that.

Should I render the shell like a lobster shell or should I do it like car body panels?

>>4383174
I would suggest using basic shapes first like boxes and cylinders. This isn't terrible or anything but it's very messy. Looks like you just used the spray tool all over. Not very clear or focused or confident you know?

>>4383096
What he said

Working on building a mental library of architecture styles anyone got some good references for gothic architecture?

>>4383235
Go to pinterest

>>4381926
Can I get some feedback on this piece please?

>>4383218
cool shit bro. Real lobster would be neat, then it implies that his internals are all mech

>>4381999
Get Centropen Document Fineliners for inking. They cost maybe 10% more than a gel pen and have a shitton of ink in them. They also easily draw over pencil sketches without skipping unlike gel pens.

You still can use your gel pens for sketching without underdrawing. Gonna be good for you.

>>4383276
Oof

Hello! I wanted to strat drawing digital and bought a tablet but I still need a good software to draw.
Could someone advise me a good software to draw? Also I mean a software that I don't have to pay every month like photoshop, I'm looking for a good software I pay once and have it forvever or something free.

>>4381322
good improvement! shes not conventionally attractive though. depends on what you were going for if you want to change that.

rendering is a whole different can of beans thoough

>>4383344
Clip studio paint is good and you pay only once, plus it goes on sale with -50% every few months.
Or just pirate it lmao.

>>4383360
This is the ugliest fucking thing i have ever seen. We need to make a level below beg for people like you.

>>4383360
looks like a Eric Forman wearing a tanooki hoodie

>>4383216
hm i tried

>>4383390

>>4383374

end your life please

>>4383374
>noooooo not my uguurino my mlep blep kawaiino

>>4383361
Thanks you mate! I'll go with that software, after looking around about it it seems to be the software one of my favorite artsit use! (it's "Xa" a french artist from ankama if you wonder) .

In brogress

>>4383476
The perspective is on point, need to clean up lines

>>4383218
Mecha jordan peterson

>>4383374
ok crablord

>>4383390
ok I changed the face, it was too much

do you guys think people would jerk off to this?

>>4383476
>>>/fit/

>>4383555
actually looks pretty cute

>>4381034
From the Superman Peace on Earth cover by Alex Ross.

>>4383594
Forgot pic kek.

>>4383555
Face is too high. Generally in the neutral position the eyes will be in line with the tip of the ear.

>>4383659
oh shid you are right thanks this looks so much better

Does anybody here have any experience with the Peter Han CGMA course or something similar? The drawabox guy's stuff is basically just his own spin on Peter Han's material apparently and I did some of drawabox but t.b.h. I just hate how the feedback/community there works and I feel that I could really use a more exclusive approach for lack of a better word, i.e. smaller paid class. Are these online courses just a meme? wat do

>>4383666
Wait, this is asukaposter?

>>4383688
No. You have to feel the artist's flaws.

>>4383688
haha yes it's me!

>>4383735
Wow this is so good. You’ve really improved your cuteness! I’m proud of you! Congratulations! I can’t wait to see the finished render.

>>4383555
Fucked anatomy and foreshorting. Face is ugly but i guess you did it on purpose.
Study hands and ears.

>>4383735
you could make a ton of money selling pubic haired waifus

>>4383682
>hating feedback/community
A literal NGMI. You won’t learn anything more from Peter Han if you continue to act this way. The best resource of Drawabox is you free feedback. Direct feedback from Peter Han would be best, but not everyone is loaded with $600.

>>4383743
i dont hate feedback and community, my entire point was i'm looking for better in both, hence curious about this course

>>4383740
>from /beg/ to pro in a week
How do i learn this power

How's this looking, I feel like it's a bit too stiff but i dont know what to do about it

>>4381034
are there any websites with exercises/challenges or graded pictures from easy to hard? i waste too much time looking up reference

>>4383235
idk but when you emerge from your studies, look at Venetian architecture and see if you can find out which period is something from because each style is very iconic there

>>4383735
Bretty good

>>4383736
>>4383740
>>4383755
>>4383942
Nice samefagging

Why does lineart take fucking ages to do?

>>4383948
Because you aren't good, when you're good, it's probably like KJG.

>>4383795
Try to use a single line or curve. It doesn't matter if it ends up looking bad, you can try it again. Also practice gesture, you disregarded the inclination of the model

>>4383952
Kjg?

>>4383956
Kim Jung Gi, a live drawing cartoonist

>>4383956
>doesn't know about our god kim jong (g)un
ngmi

A comic page thumbnail, I'm less concerned with proper anatomy at the moment, more looking for feedback on readability, composition, and design.

How do you guys study anatomy from a book? I got myself the anatomy for sculptors book but idk how to proceed. Should i practice drawing what is shown every page or just read it all then practice?

>>4383993
Anatomy for Sculptor is a reference book. It's for when sculptors are modeling and need to check because you can't just cut up people every time you need to see where something is. For people who draw, it's for reference when you're not sure what part you're looking at the body is. It helps dissipate any ideas of mysterious bumps and the like.

im sorry this is the best i can do at this moment

>>4383998
It's fine. I love it! I'll save it and look at it from time to time and admire it. Thank you.

>>4383598

>>4383998
Fingers on her right hand look off

>>4384002
magneto on the left?

>>4383947
no nigger i gave asuka fag advice that he actually listened to so im giving him a compliment for once.

>>4383598
>>4384023
meant to leave a comment with that redline
When drawing portraits you still need to use construction drawing.
https://twitter.com/JuliaLepetit/status/1150932411074646023?s=20
Watch this youtube lady draw a superman

>>4383948
the butt is better than yesterday. but i think the eyes are crosseyed the tit look way too big and like... it should sag, not point straight out. and her legs look weird. like an old lady's legs. and i dont understand the perspective, the upper body looks so far away. face doesnt really fit the ead.head is turned back too far. she is looking behind her. think about it thats physically impossible. and also since her right leg is in front of her left leg, i dont think its possible to see her taint. it should be covered by her right leg. gravity would not allow her thigh gap to exist unless all her weight is resting on her hands. and she is hovering her left leg an inch above the ground for some reason.

i think you should probably work on simpler poses in order to get down the human body proportions and anatomy.

stuff's from yesterday

I don't even know anymore.
Feels like I'm going backwards.

Drew my waifu. Howd I do?

>>4383795
>>4383954
I tried again, it's a bit more anime this time, and sorry the lines are still so scratchy, I've been trying to break the habit for a while

>>4384040
Based, now do it again 1000 times.

>>4383996
Thanks for the response, so should i just study nude models to progress in anatomy and figure drawing ?

>>4384046
Yeah, but clothed models are good too for checking you understand the underlying structure. The two are connected.

How do I meld figure drawing and perspective?

>>4384028
yeah they are both ian mckellen

>>4384040

>>4383998
FIX WALL EYED NIPPLES ASUKA-CHAN

>>4384109
Tell him how it should be then

>>4381034
Which one's """""""""""""""better""""""""""""""" ?

>>4384133
Neither.

>>4384138
C'mon anon you can do better really lay into me about how shit it is (constructively though) Fuck me in the ass (metaphorically) and destroy my fragile ego (OwO)

>>4384133
top obviously
what is that horrid fill on the bottom

>>4384144
An accident with MS paint, but I liked it so I incorporated it into the top one, but now the top one looks shit to me and I can't figure out why.

Could I get some feedback please? No ref.

>>4384189
Keep forgetting the damn pic, sorry.

>>4384191
tits too high shoulders too broad, midriff....HNNNNNGGG, keep working on it anon.

I'm new to this thread and I'm having a hard time figuring out if some posts are real or ironic

>>4381140
I did not expect to see you here
are you still on deviantart?

Anything to fix on the perspective? This is just an underline, but I will spend some hours fully rendering this so if it's wrong I'd like to know it

>>4382087
I like this one desu

ok now how do i colour and shade shit

>>4384278
Color fill everything in a flat color. Then shade twice with two different colors then two lighter colors.

>>4383324
What the fuck. Where do you live that they cost almost 3$ per pen? Alaska? I can get a pack of 4 for less than 5$.

>>4384278
I'd first recommend literally upscaling the head. Just grab the head and hair and make it a few times bigger, unless you intended it to look like that
>>4384280
and do what this anon says, he beat me while I was typing that jej

>>4383555
>>4383390
I actually like the first face more. Yeah, it's less anime and more cartoony but it works. The only thing you need to do to a first image is to make eyes pop a little more and it will be pretty good.

>>4384284
I intented to make the head look a bit smaller since it make her look like a big gurl

I wanted to make a cool back pose, but I have no freaking way of making it look interesting. The 2nd one isn't what I wanted but I dig it more.

>>4384197
Thanks senpai.

its so weird to know you tried and it still sucks. usually it sucks because i didnt try. this time i zoomed in real close, flipped the canvas a few times, i traced the ref to figure out the loomis head proportions, but yea it still looks way off.

Coloring is kinda fun but this will probably be better than whatever final rendering I'll come up with

Feeling lazy

Done it in 3 hours.. I hate it..

>>4384441
Why do you post your lazy, oversized doodling here then? Fuck off.

>>4384524
Post work

>>4384533
No he's absolutely correct. What sort of critique are you looking for? Lazy artwork gets lazy critique.

>>4384023
western consumer art is fucking cringe

>>4384554
and hard work get's no critique in /beg/

Any critiques for the rendering I just did? Something seems off in the chin.

>>4384511
the body looks pretty good except for the foot and her neck. face is the problem. i think her nose is too high and i understand what you were going for with the lower lid but it makes her look old. anyway, reminded me of this picture, maybe itll make a good ref for you.

How much of this book do I actually need to read? Do I have to actually read the weird pseudoscience stuff to find out what the exercises are or are they very clear and separate from the rest?

>>4384853
Someone is gonna say " do the exercising anon, ngmi ngmi "

The book is just trash, move on to this book called keys to drawing

>>4384191
use a ref

>>4384289
anon, it is not reading like that at all.

>>4382154

hrgtnzai dont like this painting i did
teeenkittywhy
hrgtnzaim going to drop pipe drain unblocker liquid on it
hrgtnzaits not bad its about depression
hrgtnzadepression so hard that
hrgtnzaa plant a seed
hrgtnzaa housplant a tree
hrgtnzawould get tired of sunlight
hrgtnzaso there is black rain
hrgtnzaim going to drop unblocking liquid on it
hrgtnzayou use this chemical
hrgtnzaon your toilet or drain unblocked
hrgtnzain your house
hrgtnzai shouldnt have said this
hrgtnzabut here goes...
hrgtnzasorry
teeenkittywhat for?? may not need omg
hrgtnzado you know what happened?
hrgtnzai cant believe it
hrgtnzai painted over my painting with toilet clearner
hrgtnzai thought it would dissolved into nothing
hrgtnzalike gray and melt
hrgtnzaand?
hrgtnzait went white and gray
hrgtnzaand
hrgtnzain 2 minutes
hrgtnzait went back into EXACTLY what it was
hrgtnzathe FUCKING SAME
hrgtnzai wanted to destroy it and nothing happened
hrgtnzai think its a good lesson
hrgtnzayou cant undo past mistake in life ever
hrgtnzanow my house smells like a swimming pool
hrgtnzaim going to open a window
teeenkittymaybe it's a sign that destroying is a bad idea?

>>4382143
He's implying that modern art trade is a money laundering scheme. He's probably wrong, but it isn't an unreasonable assumption to make when looking at it.

>>4385585
Did Skynet go self aware?

I been thinking about outlining my future drawings in pen since the smearing gets annoying. Should I or is there anything I can place under my hand to stop the smearing.

Also any critique of this drawing(most recent one).

>>4381034
I've only got into drawing very recently.
I've been doing Loomis to learn construction and am enjoying it so far.
How to I add facial features?

What do you goons think?

>>4386426
>>How to I add facial features?
Use a pencil?

>>4386768
>4032x3024
Do you think this is some kind of game?

>>4387004
>the absolute state of this shitty board

>>4387004

>>4386426
Read Drawing The Head And Hands and watch Proko vids on facial features.

How does this look? What are some of the problems with it?

>>4387215
Not enough T&A

>>4387215
symbolism, muddy colors, 0 edge control.
Resize pick before post ffs