/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

previous should be >>4368965

why was the last one nuked?

>>4374482
OP was propbably shitposting and got banned.

Can someone please post a step by step guide on (female)bodies and or good references. I can't do this on my own.

>>4374492
loomis.

>>4374496

I attempted gesture. Am i doing it right?

My first drawing at art school, never drew before. I redrew this cube several times for some reason and rushed in the end. Am I gonna make it?

Is "How to draw comics the Marvel way" any good?

There were like 30 posts with images, any drawings from asukafag?

>>4374566
In the /beg/ thread that was deleted? I didn't see any.

>>4374562
It’s pretty good. Grab a pdf of it online.

>>4374566
I was in the process of drawing next asuka and I got really really angry how shit it looked
I will not draw anything else until I become a master of human anatomy and now I will only do studies cause enough is enough the shame will stop

is there any hope for me lads

>>4374570
It got pruned just before I opened it

>>4374578
>shilling on a beg thread

>>4374574
>I will not draw anything else until I become a master of human anatomy
That's a bad route

>>4374578
why would you fully outline every muscle in the arm?

>>4374581
Not shilling, just too lazy to create separate no sig versions for situations like this.

>>4374584
Because I'm an idiot who needs to feel this shit.

>>4374578
It's technically competent but not particularly interesting. The knife looks silly. The whole figure is fairly unappealing, with the grossly exaggerated breasts and butt not making it attractive in the slightest. Like an unflattering caricature. The pose looks stilted, more like posing for a photo than a natural pose.

>>4374611
How would you fix it?

Also, it's a Genestealer Cult Magus figure from Warhammer 40, if you'd like to look up the "source material".

I'm trying to follow books but still can't fucking crack the code of the body. Ass.

>>4374639
Try this course if you're serious
https://www.udemy.com/share/101Xa6A0QYc1dTRXg=/

>>4374649
I would if I had the money

>mfw studying female figures from solo porn galleries

feedback on the lighting?

>>4374634
I looked it up, and it's definitely recognizable. I still think the knife looks silly, but I guess it's true to the source material.
Anyway, I'd start with a more realistically proportioned body. Less tits and ass, more ribcage and spine. For the pose, just try to think of something more dynamic. What is she doing? Addressing a gathering? Stabbing an imperial guardsman? Gloating? The one in the GW miniature is just walking, but that's a good start.
Sorry, I don't know if any of this is helpful. It's not really broken, I just don't like the style.

>>4374639
>>4374504
Better or worse

Best reference on how the forearm muscles transform with the twisting of the wrists?

>>4374781
anatomy for sculptors.

Is it true there is more than one way to do a gesture drawing?

>>4374839
no

>>4374839
yes don't listen to that guy

>>4374531
no lol

>>4374872
What did i do wrong? I tried following the vilppu drawing manual.

>>4374714
better, try sketching with a brush that has opacity

>>4374531
Imagine posting a 4 second doodle and not being able to tell why it's wrong

>>4374877
Idk, its so bad I wouldn't know where to begin. I feel like maybe you took the advice of drawing "s" shapes a little bit too literally.

>>4374878
I don't know how krita works, when I raise the size to make more opaque lines the roundcursor get's bigger and I can't do anything with it.

Trying to come up with poses from imagination after grinding figuary this month (almost) daily.

>>4374880
It was an attempt at gesture drawing. I’m brand new to this.

How many of you actually go out and make real life drawings?

>>4374575
No, you should never draw again. The next time you ever hold a pencil an evil wizard will cast a curse and make your hands fall off.

Thread full of crabs

>>4374881
Read the manual

>>4374881
doesnt krita have a big brush selection? select one with opacity

>>4374905
But all the big brushes have big cursors

>>4374879
The way vilppu did it was just a bunch of scribbles? Who should i listen to for gesture drawing?

>>4374909
Do hours and hours of gestures. I have done like a thousand of them and still don't know shit but the first ones and the last ones are miles apart.

>>4374531
Trying to create an abstract simplified representation of a figure is literally harder than just drawing the damn thing normally. So try that instead.

ugh

>>4374913
>>4374915
Here’s another attempt timed for 2 minutes. I just want to know if i’m getting the gist of gesture drawing.

>>4374920
Just trace over a god damned picture of Asuka already holy shit man. You are literally not on the right track at all. At least with tracing you might get a better idea of what you're supposed to do.

>>4374923
no I will never trace I will learn to draw the human body accuratly from imagination even if it takes 10 years

>>4374924
i was about say fuck furries, but after looking closely

BASED!

>>4374920
You're regressing bro. My advice, don't listen to any posts here that just boil down to 'it sucks' or 'I don't like it'. Listen to the real critiques and try to improve, but don't take all of the negative feedback to heart unless it has useful info, else you'll just keep going in circles. That being said, this looks really bad. Do you do fundies too or do you just sketch Asuka pics all day? It might be beneficial to just go back to the essentials for a while.

>>4374926
Maybe you misunderstood. Drawing from imagination is the goal you should have, definitely. But tracing can be a good learning tool. You can trace a few pictures and then do some from imagination. There's no harm in doing both.

>>4374926
You are a lazy piece of shit and you know exactly what you are doing
I cant force you to study real bodies but at least consider actually using refs of the girl so her face is recognizable

>>4374920
now you're just fucking with us.

>>4374932
>>4374933
>>4374936

I'm sorry guys I just really really can't draw from reference accurately
on a second thought I should probably trace

>>4374946
You need to be able to draw from reference before you start drawing from imagination. You're trying to skip too many steps.

>>4374949
ok ill try but it's pure suffering

>>4374932
How is tracing a good learning tool?

>>4374920
My advice would be to start taking it in steps. Finish this picture fully, compare it side by side your reference (and always use reference) There's a lot of videos out there that can explain how to portion the body into simple shapes and figures. Jumping right into details without the proper foundation will always lead to the same mistakes

>>4374957
Drawing from reference is harder in some ways than imagination at the beginning because you have a very exact standard you're trying to meet. There is a clear definition for what's a mistake and what's not. Whenever you draw from imagination and you make a midtake you can say, well maybe I meant it to be that way.
It will be hard but you have to do it. You will learn to draw appealing pictures by copying appealing pictures that others have made and internalizing their methods.

>>4374893
D:

>>4374961
>>4374963
ok guys
after punching the pillow 20 times I have calmed down

>>4374946
Stop listening to these retarded begs. You're working too hard on ONE thing. You're unable to see what's wrong. DRAW MORE SHIT.

Reading through Figure Drawing For All It's Worth. Am I going to also learn gesture through it, or do I also have to look at Vilppu video tutorials? I want to practice gesture but I just gotta know the basics of it of course.

What do you think guys, am I going to make it?

>>4374973
Hey I did that too, what are the odds

>>4374979
how tf do you see your own lines

>>4375007
I don't know, It hurts my eyes, but I like the lines.

>>4375007
He's a literal troll, ignore him.

>>4374907
IM NOT TELLING YOU TO USE A BIG BRUSH

USE ONE WITH OPACITY YOU FUCKIHNG RETARD IM DONE GIVING YOU ADVICE

>>4375021
>troll comes to /ic/, to practice drawing
>a troll isn't a anonymous gains goblin like you spreading disinformation

>>4375058
This guy is unfortunately a literal retard.

>>4374920
Gigachad asuka

study1

study2

>>4375075
>This guy is unfortunately a literal retard.
how am I retarded?

>>4375081
Do you ever post full drawings? I like your studies but I want to see what you can do with a complete piece.

>>4375087
You have no ability to think for yourself, and need to leech off others.

>>4375081
>>4375084
You don't need to clean your drawings so much.

>>4375095
>You have no ability to think for yourself, and need to leech off others.
What the fuck are you talking about? did you reply to the wrong person or something?

>>4374461
Would like some feedback. I’m not a coomer, just enjoy drawing the female body, especially asses.

>>4375096
The person that can't tell why shapes are important.

>>4375096
>>4375101
He came to /asg/ and needed to be spoonfed like a child.

>>4375101
>>4375105
You called me retarded for telling a guy to use a brush with opacity for sketching. Idk wtf you're even talking about now I think you're retarded.

>>4375110
I don't know why you're so angry, reread my message and calm down. It was obviously not aimed at you.

was fun.
was useful???

>>4375118
this guy is literally a fucking retard

>>4375125
If you weren't stalking me, I'd take you serious.

>>4375081
>>4375084

how do you do these?
do you get a ref like a photo and draw it and then draw the muscles and bones based on sth liek Hampton?

>>4375127
When you say "this guy is a literal retard" its assumed you're referring to the person who you're replying to

Oh jeez, this isn't something to read on my work break, is it? I feel like I'm just reading words and not really getting it. I get that it's important, and I need to learn, but fuck man, shit sucks

>>4375135
Clearly it's that way over text for some people.

>>4375141
that sounds boring, im glad i never readed loomis and still figure out all that shit with boxes

I'm quitting. I'm 23, I've been studying for 3 years and I can't even draw a decent face. I think I'm actually getting worse with time. Hope you make it guys

>>4374920
I think you should go back to drawing Vivec, that was actually going pretty well.

>>4375152
Good luck to you and whatever else you do too anon

>>4375092
nope. not yet.
>>4375095
I don't clean my drawings much.
>>4375134
most of those studies are from imagination. I'll just go through proko and anatomy for sculptors or stuff on sketchfab.

>>4375152
I don't believe that you've been studying for 3 years.

>>4375154
I hope I get better luck with just writing, other than this I have nothing else going on in life

trying to learn how to paint faces, any tips? i especially need help on eyes/lips, i think my noses arent too shabby

>>4375156
why?

>>4375165
because there's no way one can study faces for 3 years and not draw a decent face.

>>4375159
and yeah, i know the face is super creepy and exaggerated, i was going off of pure imagination without any sketching, so the skull is definitely fucked up

>>4375167
He didn't say he studied only faces for 3 years, only that he studied for 3 years. There's a difference.

>>4375159
asukaposter?

>>4375169
Why mention studying for 3 years and then talk about not being able to draw a decent faces?

I refuse to believe anon was studying landscapes for 3 years and is disappointed that he can't draw faces.

>>4375167
I didn't study only faces in this 3 years, mostly full figure but even on that I'm not good. Regardless as I said I think I'm getting worse in the last months, so I used to draw better faces

>>4375171
nope, whos that

>>4375172
You would be surprised at the kind of logic that happens when you've been drawing for longer than a typical /beg/.

>>4375168
then don't do that. it looks like a potato.

>>4375168
if you can't draw a decent face, you an't paint one anon

>>4375099
RESIZE YOUR IMAGES.

Anyway, your anatomy is completely fucked. That's fine, everyone makes mistakes. Use a ref next time.
If you already have a ref, compare your image to it and it should be fairly obvious what you did wrong.

>>4375191
yeah true, ill start with a sketch the next time

>>4375197
diagnosis: 50 skulls, 50 loomis heads.

>>4375173
>>4375165
>>4375152
pyw?

>>4375215
will do (◍•ᴗ•◍)

>>4375152
No one cares, retard.

>>4375152
I care.

>>4375196
No ref, I like drawing from imagination to train my visualization skills, but I understand what you mean. Here’s another one.

>>4375227
ref 1

>>4375227
ref 2

>>4375205

>>4375228
Use a ref in your next image

How do I know if im beg

>>4375234
>>4375228
why are you posting fucking sketches you fucking imbecile, inb4 OP

>>4375251
if you have to ask, you're beg

>>4375255
im trying to draw from reference as instructed what do you mean

>>4375215
you dont know what the word diagnosis means.

>>4375234
finish something, kurwa

>>4375215
Embarrassing

>>4375255
Sketches actually teach you things. Finishes are useless.

>>4375261
lmao i just realized that.

>>4375169
>>4375167
>>4375217
females are somewhat decent but I don't know what the fuck to do with males, the eyes in particular are giving me hell.
Sorry for the shitty collage btw

>>4375257
did i said drawing from ref it's bad?, posting a sketch it's pointless because it's so messy that theres barely anything to point out to give any kind of feedback for all we can tell you could be absolute garbage or actually good you are just posting for the sake of it.

>>4375228
like this guy at least here you can tell clearly what's his problems are, but with your shit theres nothing just a waste of post

>>4375234
I like it

>>4374575
I think there is definitely a lot of potential I would just try not to smudge the pencil to make shading.

I get a feeling something is off..

>>4375291
use a ref please

I've started painting this (by the way the stuff in pencil is not shading it's just mapping where I want to put certain paints.) Its the Interrupted Sleep by Francois Boucher

>>4375291
Everything

>>4375275
>I've been studying for years!
>posts a bunch of failed stylized shit
Study real life, anon. It's not just a meme.

>starting digital
>confidence in self goes completely down the drain

>>4375312
real life study might be arguably good but definitely not necessary

>>4375321
>when you neglect drawing boxes

>>4375321
Try using a brush that allows for soft opaque lines with low pressure. That way you can make soft sketchy exploratory lines.

>>4375323
believing dumb shit like this is how you stay /beg/ forever

>>4375312
I did and keep studying from real life. These are just things I drew for fun

>>4375326
what did anon mean by this?

>>4375330
Post real life studies then.

>>4375328
you can't refute my point and you know it anon, real life study isn't as great as you want others to believe, not saying it's bad but not a must and even optional.

>>4375234

ehhh
where can I learn how to color shade and render

>>4375354
did you use yourself as reference?

>>4375359
this
>>4375354
most of your drawnings have that manface

>>4375359
Now I'm interested. We need to know.

>>4374524

why?

>>4375359
>>4375365
>>4375373
no guys omg I like girls with sharp features

>>4375353
Show me one decent artist that has never studied from real life.

>>4375124
far better than drawing on paper!
one can flip the image to see mistakes, fully erase instantly - line it up with the reference to compare,, trace and draw construction lines on reference,
pen / surface only needs small amount of pressure for RSI
No need to waste paper or carry it around all day with embarrasing lewd drawings on!
No mess accumulating on the floor by shitty drawings.
is this the patrician drawing medium?

>>4375392
is this a self portrait?

>>4375392
also don't forget being able to use perspective grids underneath,
printout ellipse guides, background references - all kinds of shit, and tell me what medium could draft compositions as fast as mine? AND MOVE ELEMENTS AROUND ON TOP OF EACHOTHER explore colorschemes - all kinds of shit.
Is using this medium the essence of making it?

What's more difficult the hands or the body?

>>4375425
the hands are a part of the body so yes both

How do I into drawing mecha and mechanical things /ic?

>>4375440
Use a ruler.

one from imagination before sleep

>>4375467
How do you ever sleep when you have fiendish terrors like that roaming in your mind?

dropping off my dwarf slayer, i copied the really ugly one that comes up in google images.

keep drawing lads

Is Draw a Box not good after lesson 2? I hear Dynamic Sketching is better but not on why it is a a better course than Draw a Box. Plus the end results for Dynamic Sketching look expert-like.

tried to adjust the wings and tail like anons pointed out

>>4375532
It's been a while since I did it, so I don't know exactly what lesson 2 is now, but when I did do it. It was just as good as Dynamic Sketching. DAB is more focused on practicing I would say though. DS has this presentation aspect to it.

>>4375075
>>4375016
who made this?

>>4375251

>>4375542
I did obviously, look at the filename.

>>4375553
make the background grey or something i can't see a thing

>>4375562
Why's there so many old men here?

>>4375572
more like you or your monitor is fucked

>>4375562
>>4375542
this ADHD schizo has been drawing the same exact things for 8 months, and will chimp out any time you said things xhe (yes it's a tranny too lmao) dislikes.
The e x a c t same gray barely visible sketches since 2018. what the fuck.

So I did some sketches of the skeleton guy from Figure Drawing For All It's Worth. Is it supposed to replace my skeleton from befor? Like, when I draw humans and do construction, I should be drawing this guy now? The rightmost one is my simplistic one I do right now

More watercolor practice. Heres hoping it's correctly oriented

Drew Hanako Kun, most of my pencils are broken or lost sadly

>>4375592

>>4375581
Why are you letting such an inferior being live inside your head?

>>4375594
Ya phone posting is pretty gay. I've cropped to size and rotated for orientation. Not sure what else I can do short of using a PC to post. I'm too casual for that.

>>4375467
Eesh, anon

Practice while smoking weed, not even joking or memeing. Your visualization and concentration skills go through the roof when you are high. I’d say it advances at least a couple of months of skill level when you do it.

One more from imagination. WIP.

>>4374461
Will tracing over lots and lots of images help me at all?

>>4375610
take a screenshot of your screen almost every phone if not all have that shit samsungs/sony are usually pressing home and volume up or down

>>4375617

>>4375617
NO mostly no if you do a bunch of studies of an image and it still doesn't look right THEN and OLLNLY THEN is tracing a good idea to finally figure out what the fuck you did wrong

>>4375616

loomis and noses

>>4375641
>/beg/

>>4375641
Do you redraw each head next to each other or copy paste layers? And what CSP brush are you using?

>>4374461
How could I do this better

>>4375646
Fuck off, crab. Those are good studies

>>4375641
what is your end goal?

>>4375658
He was implying that the poster is beyond /beg/ you clown. What would be the point of directing someone in /beg/ to /beg/?

>>4375652
Or I guess my question is really does this still look flat or like symbol drawing? I'm doing my best to "feel the forms" and make it look 3d

>>4375652
By actually learning anatomy, yikes.

>>4375652
watch Vilppu's video about cylinder form

>>4375669
You're feeling too many of the forms, just feel the big ones. Overall not bad.

>>4375630
Yeah I always start with the screencap. Didnt crop this one all of the way down to 1:1 and it seemed to work on the other thread

>>4374813
is this from a book?

Loomis study

>>4375716
yes, anatomy for sculptors

>>4375354
i like it. make more.

How do I practice line weight?

>>4375804
By drawing

>>4375806
Not helpful

>>4375808
If you drew, you would understand that you already use lines and line weight. But since you don't, you came here to ask.

>>4375811
Stop replying to me if you don't know how either, you're shitting up the thread.

>>4374461
Any good advice for digital coloring and painting? I feel like my process is absolute shit. Sketch > Lineart 1 > Vector Linart > Mask Layer > Base colors > Shade + Lights > Airbrush touchups on wherever. I did this with reference but anatomy still ain't my strong suit for sure.

Using CSP currently any advice/criticism?

why do my lines look like absolute dogshit

>>4375841
You don't draw them with consistent weight.

>>4375818
study the planes of the head and body

>>4375847
What can I do or practice that will make it much better

>>4375880
Thinking about the pressure you put on your hand when drawing.

>>4375880
Just. Draw.

>>4375641

don't you think it's about time to create art?

>>4375141
You won't really learn it unless you try to draw what he talks about.

>>4375381
Check out David Goujard. Maybe it will help.

>>4375588
Yes. Or something like this. But I should say you need more time with cylinders, boxes, cones and other simple forms placing and intersecting them in perspective.

>>4374575
>draw the tits
>realize you are not good enough to draw them yet so you erase them but leave enough trace of it to suggest that you think you have made a good contour

I have been there.

>>4375897
I figure I got maybe 6 more months of studying before that.

>>4375929
Based.

>>4375897
>thinking he's even close to ready
lmao

>>4375929
I don't know how anyone "figures" how much longer they have desu. You're at a level to start making art either way

>>4375929

well, up to you. I think you're already good enough and need to start practicing imagination drawings. it's different from copying plates.

>>4375938
>thinking he's even close to ready

you would know don't you?

>looks at work

heh.

>>4375929
bro youve got loomis down if you make anything please post on beg

>>4375929
>Inb4 he becomes another proko.

>>4376072
If all you do is keep living in fear, you'll never improve.

I know it's "the master, not the tool", but what brushes does everyone use? I've been wanting to start seriously grinding again but my current settings are completely fucked for some reason.
(Bonus points for SAI or Photoshop)

Tried drawing a face that isn't anime for the first time

>>4374461
Just starting out in digital. Im finding shading to be very difficult. Whats the best way to approach it in photoshop?

>>4376120
the stahlhelm is a much weirder shape than whats depicted

>>4376120
There's a few things to consider when shading a smooth and shiny surface. I suggest looking up high quality references and trying to emulate exactly what you see when it comes to where the light is coming from and where the darkest areas are

>>4376138
Thanks, but when it says "blur that crap" whats the best way to go about doing it in photoshop?

>>4375641
Nice, how long have you been drawing for?

Her twintails looks off, the relationship head/shoulders looks weird and not sure how to fix it, her hands looks flat.. Why I'm even trying anons?

>>4374578
NOT /BEG/
go away!

what hand exercises/stretching should i do to avoid injuries? an infographic would be nice too

>>4376258
Does this look closer to what you're wanting anon?

>>4375354
Hi Asukaposter if you would like to learn rendering you will need to learn how light works. And then how Light affects 3D shapes here are some youtube vids to start you off.

Sycra's foundation of Light and shadow series
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0q-LZVFZuGE&list=PLV2X3tgajVlHkH3FHxm3rLZWqScFTRhtv

Marco Bucci's video on Light and Shadow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcCJ2CU-bFw

Painting with a light source by Istebrak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UydvG6Kf8bg

Hope these helped you. May Saint Jadwiga guide you Polfriend!

>>4374578
Hi Anon, you have a slight bit of pillow shading going on there at places, I would suggest trying to keep the light's direction consistent although I admit it is quite difficult on such a detailed figure.

I used the shadow between the head and the collar to establish the main light source as that seemed to be the most logical one on the picture.

>>4376368
Okay and here I tried to adjust the shadows and highlight spots to be a bit more consistent. I know the brushwork is ugly and messy compared to your polished version sorry about that I usually use soft brushes and you use a hard cell shaded style.
Hope this helped.

Anyone mind taking a look at these scribbles and telling me what I need to do?

>>4376386
try to do the construction OVER the reference considering perspective, landmarks etc., then draw the construction again from memory (no ref), trying to nail the perspective and landmarks. Keep it simple as those scribbles, and don't take more than 10 mins on the exercise. Repeat on other poses and try to learn the logic of the construction over time. The idea is that you become intuitive with it

First time attempting a more "real" rendering of the lighting on the background and the non realistic character, I did it as a gift and had more fun than I thought

>>4374513
not an expert at drawing from your head and your characters look more "characteristic" than my same face doodle-tier iterations for the most part but if i were you i would try getting most of the form on paper first with a loose gesture so its doesnt look like youre lego-blocking your forms together. you have a good eye so its working for the most part but the more you work from big the small the more natural and well-planned your drawing will come across, and i would also venture to say you will benefit from the experimentation offered by allowing yourself to get more loose and tap into your subconscious ability to describe the things you see in your minds-eye. KUTGW

>>4374921
you really just gotta go at it and scribble and let your instincts do the work. you're missing the point with these stale representations of what you're seeing. imagine someone has a gun to your head and told you to do the most descriptive drawing you can of a subject in in 30 seconds. go at it like your life depends on it not as if your mom is gonna put it on the fridge when you get home from school

>>4375095
>You don't need to clean your drawings so much.
dude i wasn't gonna say anything but your work is trash and you have no room to be telling anyone how they should be developing their workflow. get lost git gud and lurk moar faggot

>>4376368
>>4376370
Yeah, dat lighting makes much more sense and seems so obvious now that I look at it, why didn't I see it when I was drawing? Although, there some moments I'm not sure about, like left half of the right tiddy being completely covered in shadow.

Thanks for taking the time to show me.

>>4376557
Why will you not just learn how to draw anime faces?

>>4376563
I am more concerned about anatomy
and I don't draw anime man :( I dont want to

>>4376565
1) You're clearly not drawing anatomically accurate faces, you're doing stylized cartoon faces, which is fine, but yours are ugly. If you look at anime faces there are thousands of examples of how to draw appealing stylized faces.
2) Asuka is an anime character so I'm kind of confused when you say you want to draw Asuka but not anime.

>>4376575
ah anon it's kind of a gag at this point
once I learn how to draw, I will draw something else, other characters and things

>>4374461
about the right side of the brain book, im on the part where I should make a view finder, I already made the viewfinder but there's no instruction on how should i use it on the exercises

>>4376578
If you care about anatomical accuracy then don't draw stylized cartoon features, actually take the time to build a 3D nose, show the eye sockets receding, etc. Look at Hampton's simplified heads and copy how he does it.

>>4376562
>Although, there some moments I'm not sure about, like left half of the right tiddy being completely covered in shadow.
Yeah it is not easy, the more complex the lighting and the shapes are the more complicated it becomes to achieve a realistic look, that is the challenege of rendering. That is why a lot of artists simplify shadows and often even cheat a bit to make the picture read better.
Keep at it Anon!

>>4376531
looks good, post ref please!

>>4376557
Check out those vids Asukaposter >>4376358

>>4376615
yes I saw them thanks you

>>4375641
good stuff brethren. drillers are killers

>>4376112
is this traced?

>>4376140
use the blur or smudge tool my brethren

>>4374461
why are yall faggots so obsessed with drawing humans
so fucking boring
where are the landscape artists?

>>4376892

because I want to draw fanart or porn for money :)

>>4376892
Landscapes are boring

>>4376386
Feel the form.

>>4376892
It's for the (you).
People here only know how to "critique" anatomy so unless it is a human you will receive no (you). I've also noticed there is a lot of focus on characters and no focus on composition. You'll find more landscape and better composition over in /trad/ but you get shit on for being a /beg/.

Why everything i make garbage

>>4376606
I used this pose from the book "drawing manga people and poses" by Ryo Hirata. Once you have that down you van have fun coming up with the clothes and features from imagination, for the background I color picked from a photo I took in a highway at a time of the day I liked and made big blobs with the brush, as for the lighting in the character I googled a shit ton of people in front of sunsets, just made it less red and more yellow to fit my backgroun. It worked but I found a drawing that will be very useful if you are trying to draw similar lighting conditions, Im going to find it and post it here as a reply

>>4376892
You have to go outside to draw landscapes. You can draw people from images.

>>4376904
are you saying that figures can't have compostion?

>>4376932
Real life and photos are the best reference but look at this, you can tell they did their homework and yoy can learn from it, in my case I had already done the skin in a different way but my hair improved by just looking at it, also the ambient light from the blue sky, I hope it helps you too!

>>4375467
hot

>>4376755
Why the ding dong would I trace if I was testing my observational skills

ok guys

is this better

>>4375497
the lines man!
stop
they're ugly, it's damaging your wrist and you won;t be able to impress cute girls with your shitty chickenscratching when it comes to traditional drawing
just take a few weeks to turn these 32874219748 lines into a single confident line - even if it is wobbly or whatever your images would look skillful and appealing

>>4375533
you need to stop drawing this, it's not helping you get better. and in terms of artistic merit it is pure trash,
If you're trying to make a piece, it's a good thing, but you need to have a composition and a story and interest and bring something new into the world : what you're drawing right now I could find dozens of on google images in 2 seconds for you to copy

>>4376967
can I get the ref pls?

>>4376977

>>4376972
waste
of
fucking
time

>>4376999
what why
I'm trying to learn anatomy, I use the books that were recommended

>>4376984
gracias

>>4377003
holy fuck asukafag you really have to learn to ignore crabs

>>4376972
Don't forget to add the cranium to the head.

>>4377020
Forgot to add to unironically study Loomis plates that feature the superior divided ball and plane method.

>>4376972
Yeah that's actually a lot better.
Ganbare, Asukafag.

>>4375533
also with your brushmarks STOP STOP STOP.
watch a good artist painting something, if you want texture add it in software.

>>4375533
>>4376974
Ignore this crab, it looks really good.

>>4377034
>giving recommendations on what I think is the best way for anon to get better
>crab
crab is someone trying to pull another down to stop them getting better and making it, I wouldn't bother replying if I didn't want him to succeed

>>4376972
I think the nose is a little off center but this face looks much more attractive than usual. Good work

>>4376936
No, I'm saying /beg/s seldom focus on composition of a scene.

>>4375880
Just draw with a brush with little to no variance in thickness, and make it on the thin side. How pretty your lines look is the least of your concern, you need to work on accuracy.

>>4375929
I agree with the other anons, if you actually understand construction you need to start building stuff from imagination to strengthen it.

>>4377106
Accuracy?

How can i make rendering look better

this piece speaks to me

>>4377158
what does it say

>>4377163
kill 'em all

new

>>4377184
>>4377184
>>4377184

>>4377185
Seriously? Even the previous /beg/ thread is still up. Past the bump limit, sure, but hanging on to page 10.

>>4376679
She looks like 37s crackhead.

Pic

>>4376756
ayo senpai why is the blur tool soooo weak in photoshop i set it to 100% and it barely gave a fuzz like wtf

>>4379335
This is very good, I love it, I'm a big Dragon Ball fan.