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What is /ALT/?
If you're looking for a place to post your cartooning then you've found the right general. This is /ic/s 1st and only merged hub where both Eastern and Western stylization can coexist peacefully, hence the double title. However, by community demand and long history, this is favorably an Anime general.
>Rules & Guidelines
(1) Any form of cartooning is welcome; so submit and receive feedback from others. (2) Please resize your images before posting. (3) Share your knowledge and (4) Remember to not be afraid of asking for critique. Most importantly I encourage you to keep discussion at a civil level, but you're more than welcome to share your opinions.
>I came for anime. Why does the image OP say cartoons general?
To distinguish from the anime study thread (janitor supported). Please post your studies there and personal work goes here.
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>Community Resources
Hitokaku Index
>http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~zm5s-nkmr/
List of active livestreams
>Use twitch #art
>yoshikadu2011 https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUx5dpO6d5gQ4KWNPc24CKw
FellowBro's Book Collection
>http://mediafire.com/?i44dwzkf9j9n8
Tutorial & Reference Collection
>http://pinterest.com/characterdesigh/
Japanese Tutorials & Documentary
>http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?id=59317 (0033)
>http://iradukai.com/
References
>http://www.onairvideo.com/croquis-cafe-photos2.html
>http://www.eggazyoutatsu.net/eng/atarichan.html
>http://senshistock.com/sketch/

>> No.4356552
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4356552

Finished.

>> No.4356568
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anon, can you help me to identify the artist of this picture pls?

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>>4356552
nice, I like the linework and shading. Looks p cool

used >>4337572 's concept as a reference. drawing the gun was fucking difficult

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>> No.4356646
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Progress update on this piece. I'll fix the legs tomorrow.

>> No.4356658

>>4356646
Her mouth is a little too wide and her right hand seems a little large
Other than that its alright

>> No.4356659

>>4356646
i don't like your style but I wish I had a command over figures and anatomy like you so that sataniachad doesn't scream at me

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>>4356659
>sataniachad

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>> No.4356698

>>4356690
Very nice

>> No.4356703

>>4356659
Dont mind him, hes just a shitposter. Unless he posts his work and it's actually good, then you should take his input into consideration. But we all know that's not going to happen.

>> No.4356751
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4356751

Me and my friend stayed in McDonald’s for like 2 hours to draw, I don’t like her face and the anatomy’s wonky but I’ll be more aware next time.

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>> No.4356771

>>4356760
inb4 he starts samefagging again.
Fuck off, go shill elsewhere and stop spamming the /alt/ threads

>> No.4356773

>>4356760
>mobileposter
Every time

>> No.4356780

>>4356771
>>4356773
Rent free

>> No.4356781

>>4356582
This looks like a screenshot from a Studio Ghibli film, nice work.

>> No.4356785

>>4356780
>Rent free
>When he keeps attention whoring
lol

>> No.4356794
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Screen print

>> No.4356801

>>4356760
Link to vid

>> No.4356814
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>> No.4356879

>>4356794
it's nice but you should put less details in the face

>> No.4356882
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>> No.4356886

>>4356751
>McDonald’s
>friends
Don’t get fat

I like the face, you’re like a wizard with that pen

>> No.4356891
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Thoughts on improving the silhouette? I want to start of tomorrow morning strong.

>> No.4356896

>>4356751
This nigga is drawing boobies in public.

>> No.4356909

>>4356882
really great water lighting, motion, and cute girl

>> No.4357113

>>4356882
Awkward right arm.

>> No.4357120

>>4356882
It's nice to see you doing more ambitious pieces, good stuff, and very pretty colors

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>>4356751
>Drawing nudes in public

>> No.4357164
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>>4356896
>>4357134
>being scared of drawing tiddie in public

>> No.4357165

>>4356896
>>4357134
Pathetic. Sataniachad would approve of this.

>> No.4357169

>>4356781
Thanks, anon.

>> No.4357212

fuck you arknigs

>> No.4357215 [DELETED] 

Why is a thread for alternative artand alternative stylization full of anime?

Just about every fucking other thread is about that.

>> No.4357217
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4357217

I'm trying to get better at stylizing and dynamic poses, anyone have any artist/manga recommendations I could study?
Especially if it has good visual effects.

>> No.4357219

>>4357217
This is looking really good but you might want to work on those legs

>> No.4357220

>>4357215
just go to /draw/

>> No.4357223

>>4357215
Because long ago, anime used to be the only thing around, but western stylized artists complained that they didn't get any rep, so OP put them together to please them.

>> No.4357224 [DELETED] 

>>4357220
But I want to see alternative art and stylization.

>> No.4357230

>>4357224
There's also cartooning and more graphic or abstract illustration styles in these threads though.

>> No.4357246
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4357246

busy constantly now that im getting commissions, I'm not complaining but it would also be nice to have some time to draw for myself

>> No.4357247 [DELETED] 

>>4357230
Where?

>> No.4357249

>>4357215
>>4357224
>>4357247
Draw in the style you want to see and post your drawings

>> No.4357250

>>4356909
Thanks

>>4357113
Yeah, it looked better in the rough sketch

>>4357120
Thanks, drawing porn was a big crutch for me so I have to actually start learning how to draw well to make up for it.

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i wanted to try something with more color, some pop

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4357272

There were a good handful in the last thread I saw but this one just got started. What about this >>4356794 though?
And look, here's one more for you.

>> No.4357330
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I tried to fix the lines and knee, I also added a flag

>> No.4357341

>>4357330
Is she supposed to be an amputee?

>> No.4357356

>>4357341
no, when I made the gesture I imagined the leg flexed with the other leg covering the foot

>> No.4357392

>>4357219
Thanks anon, I'll keep that in mind as I continue.

>> No.4357444

There was an artist here years ago that would draw Kamille Bidan a lot with blues lines, does anyone know who that was?

>> No.4357459

>>4357217
Make the left transforming arm bigger like 1.5-2 times. As in just more of it.

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*sluuurp*

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This is my first time doing literally anything with color and it is incredibly petrifying

What think of this thing I did?

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4357496

is this helpful excercise? i struggled placing human when i made comic so i'm gonna make stuff like this sometimes

>> No.4357500

>>4357492
the drawing is nice but youre not doing much with colour, try doing a piece where you colour everything and with shadows/lights using colours

>> No.4357505

>>4357246
Pretty slick, what's your blog?

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4357530

Gonna preface this by saying that I ain't even mad, but I found a fanart on Twitter that looks kinda like a fanart I did just a week before.

Do you guys think it's a little inspired by mine? even if it is it's different enough that it's not really a copy.

But still... feeling like they saw mine first.

>> No.4357542

>>4357530
I hope this is a joke

>> No.4357545

>>4357542
It's not, I'm serious.

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>>4356539
Not super happy with it, but I like the face and spent way too much time on the chainmail, so here it is.

>> No.4357554

>>4357530
No

>> No.4357560

>>4357545
Well I don't see it. Both of you use very basic poses with semi-animeish disneyish styles to create drawings based on a very short teaser. Of course they would look kinda similar. Never mind that the palette and lighting are very different.

>> No.4357567

>>4357530
her hands look like you forgot to shade them

>> No.4357569

>>4357560
>>4357554
The reason I see it is just the placement of the characters, the book, and the time it was made (one week after mine)

Obviously they are very skilled and aren't trying to copy, but sometimes you see something and make something similar without realising it.

Tbh I just saw it on pinterest a few days ago and thought it looked similar, but since I drew the picture of course I'd be sensitive to it.

I kinda like theirs better too. based nips.

>> No.4357571

>>4357217
Naruto

>> No.4357601
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hi

>> No.4357637
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4357637

Hey guys its been about 6 months since I drew last and forever since I posted last. Go ahead and let me know what I fucked up please. Hope you all have been well.

>> No.4357642

>>4357637
Blog?

>> No.4357649

>>4357642
The closest I have is a twitter. @explosive_art

>> No.4357652
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(sorry for my english) hi guys!, 1 week ago i started the "Effective Art Study Guide", i proposed myself to improve the way i draw heads and start doing lineart, yesterday i was told to draw a head from memory and looking foward to improve so please tell me how could improve my drawings and what is wrong in my drawing :)

>> No.4357653

>>4357637
Body and pose are pretty good besides the tits being a little to high up and the knee being a bit bigger then usual. The head and neck position is super fucked up. If I had my tablet with me I would redline it, but basically, you would make the neck longer and bring the head and neck position a little forward.

>> No.4357654

>>4357649
I remember you. You've gotten a lot better. I wonder if the same applies to your rendering.

>> No.4357658

>>4357653
Point taken, I will play with it tomorrow I am going to bed now. Thank you.

>> No.4357661

>>4357654
We'll see. I haven't drawn anything since August 2018 so I am hoping that I have stayed about the same and not regressed too much. Before I stopped I was grinding a lot of studies but mostly focused on drawing and not so much rendering.

>> No.4357665

>>4357658
np anon. Your pretty good. Do your best tomorrow.

>> No.4357669

>>4357665
Thank you very much, will do! Goodnight.

>> No.4357670

>>4356582
we wuz one handed warriors!

>> No.4357672

>>4357246
lmao wtf.

>> No.4357674
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4357674

I have been trying to find a good way to colour digitally that is not just using flat colours but I feel like I fell into a trap that makes my art look like it was posted on DA 10 years ago (aside from the fact that I literally made Death Note fanart). Also should I keep the lines visible in the finished piece?

>> No.4357675

>>4357637
back of the skull looks too shallow, unless thats part of your character's design, and hands need more practice

>> No.4357680

>>4357674
I don't think the colors are your only problem

>> No.4357687

>>4357652
join dad

>> No.4357690

>>4357530
did you used a reference? if not then probably

>> No.4357693

>>4356760
Based nessie that's why she is my fav artist from here

>> No.4357695

>>4357601
good for what they are, though not a fan of the 1 consistent pixel brushes. they scream, i undo and erase all my lines until i fine that perfect shape. i used to draw like this, but now i moved to building up my lines, which gives better lines and looks more natural.

>> No.4357710

>>4357680
Go on

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>>4357690
I did not use a reference, just finished a sketch i had done earlier.

>> No.4357720
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4357720

not sure about the colors yet

>>4357710
sure, your colors could be better, but i think your issue really is the drawing underneath
i know ryuk has some wacky anatomy, but as an example the hand that rests on the ground looks like it has a broken wrist
you put a lot of folds at the arm, yet don't continue throughout the drawing with the same level of detail
the book in his hand looks very round as well
the eyes look like you put some googly eyes onto the drawing and the mouth doesnt read like it's wrapping around his face, but is just glued onto a 2d plane

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4357722

Thank you for the feedback from the previous thread
an anon mentioned the legs being an issue so i looked into it a little
another anon said that the left eye was a little bit weird so i did my best at it as well

If somebody else sees anything a little off , let me know. I plan to render it soon so it's best if i modify stuff now

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>> No.4357943

>>4357674
study colours of artists you like

>> No.4357947

>>4357722
its too rough to be able to say much else

>> No.4357969

>>4357720
You're right, I guess I was so bent on doing the colours I neglected the actual drawing. That's a valuable lesso, thank you for the crit.

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made some jiangshi inspired girl

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>> No.4358280
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>> No.4358444
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if i tidy this shit up, you think i can sell this + other busts on fiverr or something?

>> No.4358453

>>4358444
sure but make it cuter

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>>4358453
got'cha.

>> No.4358491

>>4358489
nice try but no

>> No.4358496

>>4358491
Darn, I only do shit

>> No.4358499

>>4358496
it'd be ok if that was supposed to be a grown up version of grani or something, but she's supposed to be small and cute, it doesnt really feel like you tried to draw her character, but some older woman cosplaying as her

>> No.4358509

>>4358499
Old people gotta have the love too
jk I'll soften the face up a lot more and fix it up, ty for the help

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4358521

They might have seen the reflection of his scope lens

>> No.4358522

>>4357505
Twitter.com/Smutbrush

its all porn for now

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>>4358558

>> No.4358687

>>4358558
Dont you have your own contamination thread that was also created by you

>> No.4358692

>>4356582
Like the background especially.

>> No.4358701

>>4356760
>posts art on the internet anonymously for everyone to see and critique to their liking
>NOOOOOO YOU CAN'T DO THAT YOU CANT MAKE A VIDEO OF MY ART NOOO I DIDN'T CONSENT

what is fair use

>> No.4358708

>>4358701
>what is spamming the threads with your shitty yt "art review" channel
i can understand once or twice, but not every fucking thread

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>>4358499
ok better or nah?

>> No.4358752

>>4358708
>get free good crit
>not even thankful
NGMI every single one of you.

>> No.4358764

>>4358752
>good crit
LMAO

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>>4357722
I feel like her face is just generally off. Eyes too close together, cheeks and jaw too wide, mouth doesn't really convey an expression.

>> No.4358769

>>4358745
try reducing the midface

>> No.4358773

>>4358769
Shit u right
i'm going right Persona like

>> No.4358786

>>4358773
you're not even close to soejima's or kaneko's skill and appeal

>> No.4358789

>>4358786
Yea ik, never said I was

>> No.4358821

>>4356698
Let's see Paul Allan's card

>> No.4358829

>>4358558
You need 5000 iq to understand this

>> No.4358895

>>4358692
I appreciate that, anon.

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>>4358821

>> No.4358962

>>4358786
What are the full names of those artists?

>> No.4358964

>>4358962
They're both persona artists, just search persona after.

>> No.4358965

>>4358964
Alright I'll try that. Thanks.

>> No.4358968

>>4358962
Kazuma Kaneko and Shigenori Soejima.

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>tfw my visual library gets reset

>> No.4358971

>>4356882
long legs

>> No.4358985

>>4357496
I dont think that jesuschristing in the middle of a room would do you any good.

>> No.4358989

>>4357530
>Some guy on /d/ request something and I draw it
>Weeks later some Japanese artist does the same picture just flipped horizontally and with better technical quality all around
>Its alright since the main character I put was heavily referenced from a time forgotten douji and the original idea was from some random /d/ anon
I dont even know who is copying who anymore

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>>4357550

>> No.4359026

>>4358968
Oh sweet thank you! Much appreciated.

>> No.4359089
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>>4358769
how's this looking?

>> No.4359104

>>4359089
a little

>> No.4359108

>>4359104
Down a bit more?

>> No.4359142
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>> No.4359157

>>4359142
la goblina...

>> No.4359163

>>4358752
>free good crit
>half of his videos are just him laughing uncontrollably at some poor sops art
>"okay so you wanna try to do this... but make it... not bad : )"

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4359170

>>4359089
im not sure who this character is, but i think the nose and chin make her look more like a man. if you want to make her more feminine i'd change those two first

>> No.4359172

>>4359170
Fairs, I'll fix those up, thanks though

>> No.4359174

>>4359108
its a little better, try doing some more until youre happy, compare to the official artist/artists you like

>> No.4359185

>>4359174
I just noticed I made her eyes too big for the face shape, but I've readjusted her nose and chin like >>4359170 said.

A lot of the artists I like are mostly League splash artists, or who do realistic stuff with lots of detail lol.

I'll just end up working on it more until I'm satisfied.

Ty for your help though

>> No.4359211

>>4359142
This pose doesn't make much sense. She's supposed to be standing on her right leg, right? If so then it should be straighter to show that it is bearing her weight.

>> No.4359260

Any of you know good places to get poses of people holding weapons, like lances?

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>>4356886
Dw anon we only bought a slushie and small fries to share lmao, thank you!
>>4356896
>>4357134
>>4357164
Funnily enough we bumped into quite a few friends (and strangers) who complimented my art without being weird about the boobs, except one guy who said “well I wouldn’t wank to it”

I did this as a little draft sketch for a piece I wanna do when I have time

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It's not a penis... just phallic

>> No.4359417

>>4358558
based

>> No.4359444
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4359444

Doing some mood drawings/really rough key poses for a project. Can't help but feel they can be pushed further but idk how

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4359450

>>4359444
And the turnaround of the girl, just cus

>> No.4359487

>>4357601
super cute

>> No.4359541

>>4359487
super generic

>> No.4359542

>>4359163
> have you tried, you know, not being bad?

>> No.4359548
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>>4359542
i want to say i have, but i still am bad, so clearly i wasnt really trying

>> No.4359553
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I tried

>> No.4359569
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endless studies

>> No.4359615

>>4359553
Not perfect, but I like it. Is she from something or just a random thing you drew or an OC or what?

>> No.4359620

>>4359615
From a show, yeah. I like working with warm colors and needed the painting practice.

>> No.4359625
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4359625

how's it looking guys

>> No.4359627

>>4359625
progressive

>> No.4359633

>>4359627
what did he mean by this

>> No.4359661

>>4359620
...There's a show about thicc demon girls? Name?

>> No.4359663

>>4359625
Something about the way her shirt drapes reads weird to me. I think it's because the little 'plump' of it hanging on the right of the image is about the same size as the part that plumps out because of her boob on the left. Unless both sides are just because the shirt plumps out naturally and she has no tits at all, in which case ignore me.

>> No.4359668

>>4359661
Hekapoo from Star vs the forces of evil
The first 3 seasons were alright, but if you just wanna coom it's probably not worth watching

>> No.4359670

>>4359625
Bluepilled.

>> No.4359672

>>4357356
I know you know you can convey that better.

>> No.4359681

>>4359444
My nigga Zachfag

>> No.4359682

>>4359663
Wow nice catch! I can definitely see what you’re saying, I’m realizing now that I didn’t convey the shirt folds all that well, so I’ll definitely rework this in the morning. While she is on the smaller side, it still looks weird doesn’t it? I’m indecisive on the bust size tho, so maybe that’ll change as well lmaooo. Thank you for your time and replying honestly :)

>> No.4359769

>>4359675
Could you guys help me out?

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>>4359769
I dont know of any books specifically but a good reference always helps

>> No.4359789

>>4359783
Would you say in relation to the arm, the shin and femur are about 2/2.5 inches longer than the forearm and humerus?

>> No.4359800

>>4359789
On average, yeah
Don't get too caught up with being exact though, sometimes it's best to feel your way around.

>> No.4359802

>>4359800
I appreciate the help. Have a nice day.

>> No.4359850

anyone know where i could get good refs of clothes in action/casual movements and stuff? most fashion shots are in really specific poses

>> No.4359916

>>4359444
The gesture is quite stiff. Try to take more inspiration from cartoons from 90s (and older), the bodies often behave similar to fluids when animated. Also, try simplifying. Her hair will be very complicated to animate/draw in motion due to the amount of strands. It helps to study art from really good cartoons like Ren and Stimpy and then drawing from imagination to find your comfortable style. This way your art will be "resembling" in a good way but never seen as a copy

>> No.4359919

>>4359553
Blog????

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>> No.4360044

>>4359919
https://twitter.com/hayabusart

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>> No.4360294

>>4359444
>>4359450
you fucking retard you have learned nothing

>> No.4360399
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>ever since I took the hampton pill I'm starting to dislike anime and stylization in general
>new goal of just becoming a fucking da vinci
can i be saved

>> No.4360401
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>>4360294
I literally have no idea why but I feel I can do okay form and such when drawing other characters or studying other styles. This other thing I did a while ago isn't perfect but its a lot better than whenever I try to draw something original. Almost as if I forget to add form, proper anatomy etc. in my own art.

>> No.4360413

>>4360399
Yeah, you’ll realize you can never achieve it and go back to drawing anime.

>> No.4360414

>>4360401
you will learn literally 0 if you continue to draw shitty abstract cartoons instead of realistic humans first

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>>4356539
update from previous thread

>> No.4360510

>>4360276
>>4360478
give blog plz

>> No.4360513

>>4360481
Dang, this is cool.
What program are you using?

>> No.4360530

>>4360478
wew lad

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4360550

anything needing sorting out before i continue with it?

>> No.4360579

>>4357330
Cute, blog?

>> No.4360588

>>4360550
There's too little space in between the eyes that makes me want to punch her in the face
Chin is still too big

>> No.4360598

How am I suppose to find my style?

>> No.4360604

>>4360598
First stop being a beginner.

>> No.4360605

>>4360588
Oki, tyvm

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I have no idea what happened but I just let my hands draw while the brain was away and it's kinda fun.

>> No.4360623

>>4360413
True. the question is what does this all mean

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>>4360588
is the face still too punchable?
i moved both of the eyes more inward and ive shortened and rounded the chin

>> No.4360674

>>4360654
If you're still looking at league artists, look at some of the younger characters, copying someone like Ashe/fiora doesn't really work for her

>> No.4360676

>>4360654
not him but the nostril looks kinda flared. Minor issue but i'd guess it would change the expression a lot, other than that cool design

>> No.4360687

>>4360674
Oh yeah, I'll do some comparisons in a bit, just taking a break playing some MHW

Idk if it's just because I'm making her eyes too big and putting them in the wrong place or if it's how the cheek shapes into the chin, but will have a look around

again, tyvm for your help, appreciate it

>>4360676
Fk, it's how I painted it, I'll make the nostril smaller in a sec, thank you though

>> No.4360713

>>4360611
ay lmao

>> No.4360758

>>4360623
It's a false sense of confidence that you think you're the best and know it all, but really everyone went down the same path too in their search of knowledge.

>> No.4360762

>>4360758
>you think you're the best and know it all
never said that, just that my goals have shifted

>> No.4360778

>>4360513
Clip Studio, thanks mang

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>>4360674
>>4360676
Ok so I ended up like grabbing Ahri/Lux/Sona/Ashe/Xayah's splashes and just played around with how they looked.

The main issues I noticed were the Cheek to Chin curve being way too fat and slimmed that down with help from the Ahri splash, I might soften up the chin at the bottom.

Played around with the nose like >>4360687
said and fixed(?) the nostril. Used multiple splashes to get an understanding of the shape, might need a touch up.

Eyes were way too fuckin big so I went for a smaller eye shape, but need to fix the shape on the left (our right) as it's too round at the top. (Right eyebrow need to be lowered too whoops).

I think it's going somewhere now? I prefer this to the last one I posted. Just lots of touch ups atm and rearranging but I'll fix it.

>>4360778
Is Clip Studio nice to use? I've considered using it, but I've been using Photoshop for years so idk how I'll feel about it.

>> No.4360845

>>4360037
Great job, nice expressive hand.

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4360892

>>4360804
out of those xayah is probably closer to what you want to copy, seperate the eyes more, smaller chin etc, maybe even look at zoe

>> No.4360909

how do I adjust the image thumbnail on Twitter?
It shows you a given crop while you write your post, but once you submit it the crop changes entirely

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>> No.4360927

>>4360892
Yeah atm it looks like its a lot of smaller changes but I'll work on it a lot more, idk how far i wanna go in terms of refixing it but i'll get there eventually

atm i'm feeling like i'm ngmi lol

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>> No.4360994

>>4360932
>>4360931
Dope. Is that a Fisher in the corner?

>> No.4361057

>>4357722
You've made some great improvements! Her left arm is far too long still though so I'd shorten it

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>>4360994
Thanks, nah it’s just a simple character I’ve dubbed “Beanhead”. I use him for practice cause he’s easy to draw.

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>>4361082

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>>4361082

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thoughts on linework so far?

>>4359007
I find this oddly beautiful. Do you have a blog?

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>>4360804
The eyes are too close together, pull them apart

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>>4361191
something like this yeah

>> No.4361214

>>4360931
>>4360932
>>4361082
blog?

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wip

>> No.4361496

>>4360399
until you realize you cant and go back to stylizion only to realize THEN that good cartooning and anime is hard

>> No.4361514

>>4361496
Yeah you're right. Why don't we have any davincis or michaelangelos anymore, were they a once in a million years kind of deal?

>> No.4361550

>>4361485
Torso looks to long.
Also doesn't look like Conan at all. I don't think at any point in his life Conan would strike a pose like this.

>> No.4361551

>>4361485
Twink Conan

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>> No.4361580

>>4361485
john red conan

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>> No.4361617

>>4361568
What does it smell like underneath a pair of huge boobies like that bros

>> No.4361627

>>4361617
bags of sand

>> No.4361685

>>4361627
I believe you because I'm a virgin!

>> No.4361694

These damn Amawus posting their shit everywhere.

>> No.4361740

Just call it an Anime thread.

There is no alternative art in here.

>> No.4361743

>>4358701
It's not fair use If you don't have the copyright to it.

If you don't know that I don't even know what to say.

>> No.4361782

i'm just waiting for /ourchink/ to shit on /alt/ again

>> No.4361784

>>4361782
nice samefagging happyboy

>> No.4361791

>>4361740
Post some then, little cunt.

>> No.4361799

>>4361784
stop replying to yourself

>> No.4361820 [DELETED] 

>>4361568

pickle juice and mayonnaise

>> No.4361843

>>4361740
There's no anime here either, retard

>> No.4361845

>>4358444
>>4358489
>>4358745
>>4359089
>>4359170
>>4360550
>>4360654
>>4360804
Can you not

>> No.4361878

>>4361845
why the fuck you include me in there

>> No.4361906

>>4361845
based

>> No.4361907

>>4361845
Yeah I can I'm actually getting critique and helpful advice here

Don't be a little bitch

>> No.4361936

>>4361845
based based based

>> No.4361941

>>4359142
Okay, so her left heel is raised, which makes the back of her heel nearly horizontal, makes sense. However her right foot is place on the ground, yet the back of her heel is also horizontal, making it look broken.

>> No.4361954

>>4361845
Based
>>4361907
Cringe

>> No.4361991

>>4361906
>>4361936
>>4361954
Seething mad and ngmi

>> No.4362420

>>4361991
No you're just fucking annoying posting your picture again, and again, and again.

>> No.4362480

>>4362420
Uh, not sure who you're responding to there, but I'm only posting to get critique and feedback, like it says in the rules. I value feedback/critique, so why not.

You don't have to get so mad about it, man.

>> No.4362563

>>4360804
stop going over the same fucking piece and move on already you dipshit. It's finished. Move on to the next thing. You're polishing a turd at this point.

>> No.4362577

>>4362563
It's not turd polishing they're experimenting with different forms and proportions to find which is more appealing but of course you wouldn't know this because you don't actually draw and you saw someone else shitposting using the term turd polishing and now you think its cute to go around using a term you know fuck all about.

>> No.4362597

>>4362577
polishing a turd is when the basic stuff looks like shit but you still keep going with it. He's made like 6 different iterations of the same face and learned nothing from doing it. He could've drawn six different heads and learned so much more instead. He's being an indecisive bitch and you're supporting him. Post your work faggot.

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>>4362597

>> No.4362603
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here we go

>> No.4362606

>>4362599
3/10 go back to anatomy fundies
Nice hatsune miku hair faggot, ya scream originality. That whole head is fucking broken, all the features on it are condensed into 1/3rd of it. Too big. Fingers too fat and too small, right hand is broken. There's no flow to it and it runs at a tangent to the chair, which doesn't match the perspective of the ground plane either. You've indicated a tit but made her flat chested, sick one drop kick. The legs read like shit. She ain't even sitting on the chair, she's half stuck through it. Belly button is too low, broken hips and the legs don't read as 3d at all. Clean linework ain't gonna save your ass from these shitty flaws. Hope you didn't take that sketch any further.

>> No.4362609

>>4362599
Oh god no, it’s mikufag.

>> No.4362614

>>4362606
You sound like you know your shit, please redline.

>> No.4362620

>>4362614
I'm not gonna redline because it'll achieve nothing. Just do more studies from life fag

>> No.4362622

>>4362614
No one is gonna redline your degenerate shit, faggot.

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>>4362599
the best artist in IC without a doubt

>> No.4362627

>>4362620
So you replied with an analytical post detailing all the flaws so you can backpedal and say it'll achieve nothing with an ambiguous reply to just study more from life. Why even bother replying at all? You are the poster child of what's wrong with /ic/.

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Holy fuck the lighting for this fence is absolutely screwing me over. Am I doing this right? I have no idea what to do. Sorry, no bounce lighting yet since this rim light is the current main focus.

>> No.4362633

>>4362624
Not while Im here
Mikufag is a chump

>> No.4362637

>>4362627
Critique was still given, dumbass.

>> No.4362640

>>4362637
Redline it or shut your fucking muzzle, canid

>> No.4362642

>>4362637
and you've just basically said that same critique was useless and to just study more from life.

>> No.4362652

>>4362633
p2w then

>> No.4362657

>>4361514
that kind of art is just not needed anymore
we have other impressive artists today

>> No.4362658

>>4362563
>>4362597
Sorry you feel that way. I wasn't being indecisive about the face; I knew it looked wrong, but I wanted advice and help to assist me with what I can do to fix it.

Reworking the face, I realised how wrong a lot of the face looked. The angle was completely wrong, I made the eyes way too big and positioned them incorrectly, the cheek to jawline was so bad, especially for a female face, fixing the nose's shape and position to make it more feminine too. I kept uploading them just to get more outsider opinions, along with what I could use to help build up my knowledge.

You're right that I could have done 6 more faces in the time I reworked that one, but I'd rather finish off this turd rather than stop it there and jump to something else. I ended up running before I was walking, which sucks, but I know for sure that I'm gonna get into doing some studies to help better myself.

Thanks for what you said though, everything helps, no matter how or what. Hopefully you're doing well in whatever you're studying or working on too.

>> No.4362664

>>4362658
the face was fine you just needed to make the chin more soft and pull the big eyes apart
sometimes its better to just walk away from an artwork and come back later instead of listening to a shit load of garbage advice

>> No.4362667

>>4362658
Don't bother trying to apologize and be in good terms with these cocksuckers, as you've just saw they're nothing but flamming faggots that deserve nothing but contempt. Take the advice you receive here with a grain of salt.

>> No.4362669

>>4362652
I got nothing to post atm but Ill whip something up to thrash you when I get home

>> No.4362672

>>4362669
Don't bother, they're not the same person you initially replied to we're not here to have a dick measuring contest I only post work when someone just happens to ask.

>> No.4362674

>>4362632
draw the wiring as metal....
reflect your light on the side the metal is facing, not on both sides that aren’t even a part of the wires...
draw the wires as cylinders, they’re flat as fuck because you’re using one color and nothing else to show that there’s depth

>> No.4362680

>>4362672
i am the same anon and until he proves me wrong Mikufag is still the best artist in IC.

>> No.4362682

>>4356751
YOU, FRIEND, I'VE BEEN SEARCHING FOR YOU. Anon, those shadows and the lips, how do you make those with a pen? Love your stuff, keep it up

>> No.4362693

>>4362664
Yeah, I don't know why I thought that massive chin was okay and the cross-eyed look was good, haha. I always take all critique/advice into consideration, but I was leaving and coming back to the face, a lot of it irked me so I wanted to continue fixing it.

>>4362667
I know that I'm not gonna please everyone here, might as well keep up the mannerisms. I always do though, but it's nice to hear lots of outsider critique and advice, I've always been like it.

Thank you guys though, appreciate it.

>> No.4362699

>>4362674
Okay, I'll try to improve on that. But how about the fence shadows that are on the character? Does it look correct?

>> No.4362721

>>4361144
Thank you anon, I just have an Instagram at @mpitchkites. If you happen to have any crits I would appreciate your comments, since I'm relatively new to watercolors and playing with a new style as well, so I'm not quite sure what I'm doing, lol.

As for your own line art: the way your lines are describing the form of her body immediately gives me a sense of volume and weight in the breasts, thighs, and upper arms, and the bodily proportions in general look accurate. Upon closer inspection, however, I am seeing many asymmetries. Her left shoulder protrudes upwardly too far, and her right wing looks smaller than her left wing. Likewise her boobs look misaligned and sized differently. The hands look flat and not clearly defined, suggesting that you have not studied hands enough. But I do get the impression that you understand proportion and form well enough that you are not far off from correcting the problems I've mentioned. Your line quality is very clean and allows the forms to read clearly, and this is a major advantage. Finally there is a thematic clarity as well--the mushrooms, wings, and flowers in her hair clearly communicate the genre of your piece. Personally I have difficulty with making the underlying theme of my work clear since I have the unfortunate habit of over-rendering everything and forgetting what the purpose of the illustration is, so the clarity of the theme is an important and oft-overlooked strength. Keep going my friend, do not give up. Do you have a blog?

>> No.4362740

>>4356896
this nigga is a girl

>> No.4362747

>>4362699
eh, i would worry less about the fencing shadows and more about how youre using the same color and value to indicate lighting for everything within the painting. cloth shouldnt have the same reflectivity as hair, and the color and material of the clothing should have at least some influence over how the light should be reflecting to the viewer.

>> No.4362817

>>4362740
I know, still a nigga.

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>>4362627
>>4362642
cant fix stupid

mikufag has been drawing the exact same fucking way for fucking aeons, its impossible they havent been told their flaws in crits already
if they want to improve at this point they have to actually start trying to fix their own shit

>> No.4362860

>>4362657
what do you mean by "needed"? And what do you find impressive today? Just curious

>> No.4362864

>>4362856
Thank you for pointing out the obvious and reaffirming what everyone already knows, here's your (you).

>> No.4363010

>>4357695
Other anon but im in the same proces you describe, did you do any studies on building up your lines, if so did you make any discoveries?

>> No.4363014

>>4359569
Good shit man been following you on twitter, really painful seeing such a good artist with so little following for real. But keep it up bro you inspire

>> No.4363071

>>4357489
this needs more dynamic line weight, also there a lot of detail where it's not necessary (face and hair of the small character, drawing each noodle going into the mouth of the big character, details of the wooden table), so there is no clear focus point. The airbrushy steam effect and shading does not work at all with the rest of the piece and makes it look worse. Finally, the hand patting the big char's head is broken

>> No.4363119

>>4360478
dude plz blog

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>> No.4363177

>>4363014
Thanks, I’m glad I can inspire someone. I’m not really concerned about having lots of followers

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Got a little too fast and loose on these studies

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>>4363119
>>4360510
Just a heads up, it's more porn and kink stuff than mecha stuff but I'm @tangdraws on twitter, hf, other places

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01

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Foreign armies know well to plan their campaigns in tandem with the Draag beasts migration.

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>>4363291
I used refs for the heads, then made up the bodies. Probably need to practice more spandex and spider cum shots

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x-posted to beg thread as well, but this seems decently alt

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crossposted to beg thread but this also seems decently /alt/

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>>4356539
Did a sprite redraw. Were there ever any threads for these? It's pretty fun.

>> No.4363456

>>4363439
dope

>> No.4363461

>>4357530
I'd argue that neither of these are original since they're both just Zelda fanart

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trying to get out of the coom mindset

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>> No.4363580

>>4363558
bruh what is this view

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>>4363580
I'll leave that to the imagination

>> No.4363619

>>4363558
So you gonna give us your blog or nah

>> No.4363631

>>4363619
sure, why not.
I barely post on it though.
https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/41627045

>> No.4363644

>>4362658
anon, you brainlet. Understand this: All advice is not good advice. On /ic/ you will only get swamped with advice from 30 different faggots telling you to do 60 different things. You will never find satisfaction in reworking the phase constantly, and anons will tell you to change it based on their personal preference. Learn when to call a drawing done and walk away from it. If there are flaws in your work, recognise them for what they are and resolve to apply it to your next piece rather than polishing the turd that you have.

>> No.4363645

>>4363631
>blog
nevermind

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>>4363603
oh my

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>>4363645
take what you can get little man

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>>4363631

>> No.4363663

Someone make a new thread

>> No.4363708

New thread
>>4363707
>>4363707
>>4363707

>> No.4364077

>>4362682
Anon you are too kind to me :'] I wish I could give advice but because I draw based off of intuition it's hard to describe without being redundant. Thank you though <3

>> No.4364894

>>4364077
Please anon