/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Some of them did, also define old masters.

>>4358350
>“…I never spent much time thinking about others’ art. I felt that if I wanted to become something, then I had to go after nature with all my interest and energy, seek what I loved about it, and desire to steal its secret and beauty. I was entitled to become as great as anyone else, and in that branch of art so commanded by me, watercolour painting, I considered myself to have already surpassed all predecessors and contemporaries…”
Anders Zorn

>>4358350
it was a job

>>4358378
What a chad.

>>4358378
Based as fuck..

>>4358378
chad quote but I am not a fan of the painting style where you just smudge shit up to omit the details.

>>4358350
Probably. They worked towards that goal after all.
I think one can be aware of their level of skill while still having humility, though, so that doesn't necessarily mean they were arrogant. Humble and self aware people tend to be the greatest at what they do, I think.

>>4358498
>muh details
Get some fucking taste.

They definitely had intense rivalries and grudges.

Probably something like film directors today.
>some guys just do TV and commercials for a paycheck and don't have a ton of ego about it
>guys like Spielberg with impeccable technique and all the best assignments who draw tons of sour grapes for being "soulless" "schmaltzy" "overrated" etc
>guys who are underrated but doing their own thing really well and will be remembered long after they're gone

>>4358579
>muh broad strokes

get some fucking skill.

Most of them were celebrated by the public, their peers and the critics at the time they were active, so they must have heard.

>>4358350
Michelangelo said to da Vinci that he's /beg/ trash to his face
He never recovered from it

>>4359864
Savage.

>>4358498
its the whole point of it, create an illusion of detail with as few expressive brush strokes as possible

>>4358378
based and redpilled

>>4358498
it's more interesting to see a scene of real life depicted in terms of the strokes that an artist's hand is able to produce e.g. broad strokes.
if you want detail you can buy a camera

>>4359864
i thought raphael was the one that hated everyone. i hate that new incarnations of the show keep changing the dynamic between which turtles are the edgy ones.

>>4359956
>if you want detail you can buy a camera

ngmi

>>4359554

if you gonna talk about skill you gotta post your work.

>>4359907

I like it. its just implying and the human brain fills in the gap.

>>4359864
where can i see more stuff like this? the life of old masters or stories

>>4359864
Kino.

>>4359864
Hurts cause it's true, Leonardo was famous for not finishing things.

>>4359962
Boomer jokes lol

>>4359864

>>4360364
No surprise that da Vinci also hated on sculptors

>>4359864
I fucking hate Michelangelo. He was such an artist douche. His shit is only famous because he crafted these bullshit stories around it
>I don’t want to do this pope commission
>I ALMOST went blind working on this bible comic on the ceiling
>nobody likes my cartoony bible manga, but it’s muh style
>my mom died young so I can only carve sexy young Mary statues
>I think Florence is the best so I graffitied my home town on her tits
>I carved David without using refs
>someone challenged me to pyw so I defaced a building with a shit post carving of his face

>>4358350
Hokusai thinks himself as just beginning to be a good (not great!) artist at 70.

All I have produced before the age of seventy is not worth taking into account. At seventy-three I have learned a little about the real structure of nature, of animals, plants, trees, birds, fishes and insects. In consequence when I am eighty, I shall have made still more progress. At ninety I shall penetrate the mystery of things; at one hundred I shall certainly have reached a marvelous stage; and when I am a hundred and ten, everything I do, be it a dot or a line, will be alive. I beg those who live as long as I to see if I do not keep my word. Written at the age of seventy five by me, once Hokusai, today Gwakyo Rojin, the old man mad about drawing.

>>4360489
>someone challenged me to pyw so I defaced a building with a shit post carving of his face
>nobody likes my cartoony bible manga, but it’s muh style
based

>>4360476
>>4360364
I never knew Leonardo da Vinci was this cringe

>>4360490
whois cutting onions here?

>>4360490
>died at 89
he was so close...

>>4360489
>Hating someone who mastered their craft
LOL

>>4358353
I'm not your dictionary. Fuck off.

>>4359956
Can a camera bring out otherworldly, futuristic and imaginative forms of life?

>>4360476
>>4359864
They would have both posted on /ic/

>>4360476
LMAO da Vinci would have been a digitalfag in this age and would shit on all tradfags messing with paint or eraser dust.

>>4360648
hating the person isn't the same as hating the artist

>>4360476
>Da Vinci baiting this hard even before the internet
that man was truly a master of every art

>>4358498
>where you just smudge shit up to omit the details.
lmao
Let me guess. "airbrushed to the side of a truck" is more your style?

>>4358350
>>4359864
>>4360476
Oddly enough the russians were known as fototracers back then. One of them had a huge fucking meltdown when someone called him out on daguerreotyping literally everything so he could trace it at home in his studio.

>>4358378
>surpassed all predecessors and contemporaries…”

Not even close.

Edwin Landseer has painted some of the best animals and human heads I've even seen in galleries, yet he went through a period of great depression.
He was such a massive brain that he could draw two different pictures at the same time, one with each hand, when challenged.
http://gurneyjourney.blogspot.com/2015/06/sir-edwin-landseers-feats-of-skill.html

>>4360476
This reads like a shitpost, lmao!

Yes

>>4360476
Holy based

The old masters were never good.

>>4359864
>>4360476
>Michelangelo was 23 years younger than Leonardo

Fellas imagine someone younger than you calling you out like this. How would you feel?

>>4358498
tastelet

>>4360489
leonardo pls go and stay go

>>4359864
Jesus, Michelangelo was fucking autistic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kNfvMwhRUE