/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>4355539
>just from doing fan-art and nothing else
every trendhopper on twitter

>>4355539
thats basically your job as a commercial illustrator. the concept art department make the character design and you essentially make an appealing fanart to sell the character to the viewer

>>4355539
That's like almost every artist in artist alley

>>4355616
>thats basically your job as a commercial illustrator
No, it's not. Commercial illustration is a huge, board umbrella term for any illustration commissioned by business/corporate clients. Most business or corporation commissions are not related to popular IP's.

>>4355539
Yes, tons of artists do it, pinups of popular characters is a big moneymaker

>>4355539
Sakimichan

>>4355539
Doesn’t Sakimichan make like $10k a month off fanart? IDK but there are many fanart patreons making bank, but you have to make them ecchi.

Sakimichan, she makes like 45000k a day.

>>4356137
>45000k
She does not make $4,500,000 a day.

The shit that you morons say is truly astounding.

>>4356180

>>4355539

if you're an artist why would you want to just draw "fan art"?

>>4356180
Imagine don't understanding sarcasm.

>>4356130
She's making at least 43k on Patreon alone

>>4355539
TRICK QUESTION : making money of fanarts is dangerous because that's not your intellectual property.
>>4355616
F A Nart. That's different.
>>4356101
>>4356130
Heyyy that's right : how has she not gotten a lawsuit after her yet? Is it fair use?
>>4356323
Yjay's how you filter the creative artists from the rest : they draw because they want to express what's inside their mind.

>>4356362
>Heyyy that's right : how has she not gotten a lawsuit after her yet? Is it fair use?
It's just speculation, but notice how she moved away from Disney fan art and started producing anime-themed trash instead?

>>4356371
...Seems very plausible to me.
One thing is for sure : if she gets sued, A LOT of deviantart/tumblr/etc people might start to flee like the apocalypse was happening that day. I'd be really curious to watch that if it happens.

>>4355539
Fan art is one of the things that drives me to create art though. But it wouldn't creativity fulfill me personally. I want to learn art and create fanart so I guess it's a balance. If I only made fanart for pateron money I'd go insane especially if it was just porn. Nothing wrong with that but I would hate it.

Hey, someone else who's making Sekiro art :)

this person just draws link

>>4356488
This makes me physically uncomfortable

>>4356362
>Is it fair use?
Yes it's parody.
Same as the entire doujin industry in Japan with multiple published magazines in japan selling porn art with copyrighted characters.

>>4356650
your welcome
this piece I didn't particularly like because of that fact but her other artwork is better. I liked the smooth colors in this one but that's it

I have a lot of experience regarding the legality of fan art.

>>4356662
>Yes it's parody.
No, it's not a parody. Sakimi's work doesn't even come close to meeting the definition of 'parody'. You cannot create work that infringes on a copyrighted IP and magically claim 'PaRoDy!' and suddenly make things okay. Parody is a specific legal defense that contributes towards making a fair use argument (which is difficult to do), not some surface level excuse to protect blatantly infringing work. You claim 'parody' as a defense in court, not elsewhere. If Sakimi was taken to court and her defense was just 'duhhh it's just a parody!', then she would be blown the fuck out.

>>4356362
>how has she not gotten a lawsuit after her yet
She hasn't gotten a lawsuit because most of the time these things are resolved not with a lawsuit, but rather the copyright holder issuing a DMCA takedown to the hosting website. If she hasn't already been issued these in the past, then it's because whoever is responsible for issuing DMCA takedowns for a particular IP may simply not be aware of her infringing work. Either that, or they have decided not to pursue it quite yet. If an IP did want to take action against her, they could issue DMCA takedowns to Patreon and Patreon would be force to remove her Patreon post, and Sakimi would have to refrain from creating work related to that IP. If Sakimi kept getting enough DMCA takedown warnings from copyright holders, then Patreon would need to consider booting her from the platform.

Of course, when issued a DMCA warning, you can fight back. You can say, "No - don't take my work down. It doesn't infringe on X companies IP." THEN things could escalate to a lawsuit, where the fan artist with be unequivocally blown the fuck out in court.

>>4356720
>then she would be blown the fuck out.
Somehow that never happened.
Neither to her, not to entire publications selling printed magazines and artbooks for money.

>>4356726
>>4356720
Sakimichan has her lawyers who have already made negotiations with Disney and she's working within the guidelines they set for her. It's ridiculous to think that she's been flying under their radar for so long with no consequences

>>4356726
>Somehow that never happened.
As mentioned, it's because the copyright holders decided not to, for one reason or another. Plenty of people get away with it because it flies under the radar. Or maybe the holder is holding back from pursuing it for the time being***. Or maybe they don't want the bad rep of going after a particular project. Or maybe they don't care, and they enjoy the free advertisement.

My point was not so much that it's likely Sakimi is going to get in trouble - my point is that if the copyright holder wanted to, then they COULD take action and she could get into trouble, and she would have a poor legal defense to protect her.

***A good example of this is Nintendo. Nintendo, despite their tough nature on fan projects, have been well known to be relaxed on enforcing IP protection regarding fan art. For example, their lax nature was one of the reasons you might see so much Nintendo fan art on t-shirt websites, like Redbubble, Etsy, etc. Nintendo was considered "safe" for years and years because they never did anything about it. For reasons unknown, they recently dropped the hammer and issued mass takedowns on many of these sites. Folks entire accounts are getting wiped because they had so much Nintendo fan art and now it's all gone overnight. A lesson learned: just because you got away with something for a long time, doesn't mean that it's somehow okay or 'safe'.

>>4356726
Do you know how much shit nintendo would get for suing a 13 year old for drawing kirby fanart?

I know some people who do this but they won't tell me how.

>>4356775
Idk but they should do it.

Bundy would stop buying it and it would be good justice and show all the asshole fan artists they don't fuck around.

>>4355539
>survive
>artist

>>4358604
nah

>>4356720
Sashimi chan made a fuckton of money making nudes of protected IPs.
And she's known but there is nobody that tried to take her down, how come?
To simplify it:
>The nudes she can get shit for
>but they're not visible or available for the public
>if by any chance she would get dragged in court she could simply say:
>"i'm not getting paid to make this works, i'm receiving donations through patreon and drawing stuff like that out of my own volition or as community requests"
in short
>she's not selling copyrighted work
>she's just drawing stuff and people have the ability to donate to her which they do
OR
no copyright holder tried anything because they'd upset a lot of normies
and they don't want to get cancelled because they protected what's rightfully theirs
it's the current year
coomers control everything

>>4359859
>it's the current year
>coomers control everything
Well clearly they're not strong enough because video games have been the same as they always have been.

>>4359860
thats a good one

>>4355539
Depends on if people like your style. There are a lot of people who earn thousands through their patreons. Often the ones that overrender everything to shit.
But people seem to like it, just like people are easily impressed by photorealism in videogames.

>>4359860
>Well clearly they're not strong enough because video games have been the same as they always have been

You either have brain problems, shit taste or haven't been paying attention to the modern industry, you know shit's fucked when even Nintendo is jewing it up.