/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>4346039
pyw

>>4346039
5 bucks tops. Not this one, I mean yours.

>>4346060
>xd

>>4346039
>I have the same skill level
sure you do kek.

Also, cost of artworks depends on the artist's notoriety. It's impossible to value artworks based on skill level.

>>4346039
>I have the same skill level
Then why post someone else's art and not your own?

>>4346039
400+ bucks

>>4346178
Because of dox

>>4346183
Really? The author clearly took a lot of time to do this and it is a well made piece but 400 bucks seems too much. Maybe I just don't know much about selling art but I would say 100-150 dollars for an a quality print

>>4346194
>100-150

I'm sorry anon, but you clearly don't know what are you talking about, have you ever bought art before, have you ever worked on a commission before?

>>4346206
I haven't. How do you value a piece?

>>4346039
>but I have the same skill level
I sincerely doubt that. fFar of being doxed is such a bullshit excuse, when you can just post ANY random work you've made that doesn't have any watermark or signature that would indicate that's it's you.

Also no one would even give a shit, as much as you'd love to think so.

Dfer rendering is weird, i do like his sketches though

>>4346039
>im not the artist btw, but I have the same skill level
actually gotta back that up friend

>>4346194
>why not 100?
simple math. how many hours do you think it took the artist to draw that? let's say he's super fast and it took 5 hours. that's an hourly wage of 20 dollars. he might as well flip burgers. just because you are poor doesn't mean everyone else wants to be

>>4346211
>How do you value a piece?
I already fucking told you, you absolute brainlet.
>>4346133

But don't even try, you seem too stupid to be able to sell art for a living.

>>4346039
ITT: Retards who think that your prices are determined by how good you are, or by how long it took you to make something.

Your work is worth however much value it generates for the client. This same work could generate $200 in a private commission, or $500 as a private commission, or $2,000 as the key art for an large marketing promo, or $800 as artwork for a trading card game, etc. etc. A piece like this could cost wildly different amounts depending on who it's for and how it's used, even if the workload is exactly the same. How your work is used is much more important than how it's made.

>>4346039
>>draws kids
YIKES

>>4346039
>I have the same skill level

sure you do

>>4347270
pedophobes are not allowed on this website

>>4346424
If you are good you can charge a higher price, "muh popularity determines the price" is a meme in your head that you adopted to cope with your feeling of inferiority, Sad!.

>>4346039
>but I have the same skill level

Ii doubt it op

>>4347293
>If you are good you can charge a higher price
and
>Your work is worth however much value it generates for the client.
effectively mean the same thing when applied to the market, you fucking retard.

300-400$ in my case

>>4347293
>"muh popularity determines the price" is a meme in your head
At no point in my post did I even come close to expressing this. Nice reading comprehension, you stupid fucking retard.

>>4347557
>effectively mean the same thing
No, no it doesn't. Again - who it's for and how it's used are the main factors in determining how much you can charge for your work, and the main reason why a single illustration could generate wildly different amounts of money despite being the same amount of work. All commissioned work should be negotiated and quoted on a project-by-project basis with consideration to who is commissioning the work and how it is going to be used.

520-900$

>>4347293
>"muh popularity determines the price" is a meme in your head that you adopted to cope with your feeling of inferiority, Sad!
Nope, it's simply the truth. Demand creates the price. If you are in demand, you can charge more, and vice versa.
It's the simplest and most common marketing concept in general. And it applies to selling art as well.
If you think differently, you are a brainlet. Sorry anon.

>>4347868
>Demand creates the price

and demand is created by virtue of you being good, if you are shit the chances of you landing demand is close to nil, just end yourself you literal brainlet.

>>4347873
Demand is not created only by your skill level. It's acombination of thing. From my personal experience the most important factor is exposure. Then followed by skill.
Important question. Do you work as a freelance artist for a living? I do.

>>4346188
Then post something you haven't posted anywhere else.
Also, it's pretty stupid to fear doxxing on /ic/ of all places.

>>4347842
>No, no it doesn't.
It's the same function on the basis that "good" is relative and applies to the many factors that can determine what your value is to someone looking to pay for your work. Regardless of the commissioner/client or the project, if they are coming to you for your work then that means that you are "good". If the work is for a bigger project and they have come to you, then that means that you are "good" enough for the client in question to have designated an entire part of a budget for you. Even more so for a private commission, the artist has all the negotiating power because of everything that comes from being seen as "good".

Of course you don't want to gouge the shit out of anyone for your services and adjust accordingly like you're saying, but that also plays into being a perceived as a "good" artist worth someone's money. My point was that >>4347293 is a fucking retarded faggot for using such a broad word.

>>4347893
>Even more so for a private commission, the artist has all the negotiating power because of everything that comes from being seen as "good".
>My point was that >>4347293 is a fucking retarded faggot for using such a broad word.
We're definitely in agreement here.

>>4347875
>exposure
This. IMO - the 2 most important qualities that I see successful artist possess are the fact that they have a unique style prevalent through a strong, cohesive portfolio, and the fact they know how to generate proper exposure for themselves. An extremely skilled artist who does nothing to promote themselves or practice their entrepreneurial skills will be far, far behind an amateur artist who knows how to hustle and self promote themselves to potential clients. There are so many more important factors that will influence one's success than just being "good",

>>4347875
this anon is right
>pic related

>>4347919
Still not worth it but cmon at least post a finished draft fucks sake

>>4347919
>>4347922
dont het me wrong. i love his stuff but
even if milesdf is a great artist, he couldn't afford to set his prices so high if there was no demand (if he just started his very first furry account last week, lets say)

>>4347923
Yeah he's been in the fandom since 06. If he didn't have success by now I'd be surprised

>>4347933
It's just weird to me that he's the only one I've seen with prices like these
The next tier down I've seen is like $400 for a finished painting by some other artist. Weird how noone is selling anything between say 600-2000 unless it's an animation. It just jumps to 5k for this one dude.
Only bigger thing I've seen is dragon adopts selling for 6-12k but then again scalies are to furries what weebs are to normies

>>4347968
Because they are money laundering, dude is russian and shady as fuck.

>>4347922
god how horrible. more crutches than brushstrokes

>>4347922
>>4347923
Is Miles, the ilya kuvshinov of the furry fandom?

>>4347997
pyw and I will tell you

>>4347974
source?

>>4348187
do you really need a source for something so obvious? is not a secret anymore.

>>4348768
its never been a secret, if you know what I mean

>>4346188
why do people say this? i've posted my work here, as well as the insta i post that work to, no one has even attempted to "dox" me.

>>4347968
>dragons make even more money than furries
If I'm gonna sell my soul for coomshit I don't care about, might as well go with what pays the most, thanks for the info anon!

>>4349777
You are frogposter, you don't even draw, and if you do you are way too dumb to make anything worth paying for.

>>4347677
>>4346183
where do you people get clients

>>4346188
Dude, nobody here gives a shit who your are whether your Jimmy Smith who lives in Florida with his mom or if your a gay California money laundering fag.

>>4349924
I do. I want to laugh at him.

Op doesn't post because he's afraid of being doxed
Implying that his work is so well know that everyone will recognize him, but doesn't know how much to ask for a commission...