/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>4333743
he's dead, no one cares.

>>4333745
A lot of people care.

>>4333743
Yes.
But let's be honest, most of the other modern and contemporary artists are memes too.

>>4333743
Were any of the "No Wave" artists any good?

There are so many books and videos about his art and why it's important/good or whatever. why did you come here? We don't need more redundant threads. Fuck off

>>4333945
>reading a book about the most subjective matter of all times
if the art doesn't speak for itself then it's trash

>>4333945
>There are so many books and videos about art. why does anyone come here?
If you don't want to talk about art fuck off.

>>4333945
Then what are we supposed to discuss here if not art my good sir?

>>4333743
yes

>>4333945
N

>>4333931
there's some gold in the more illustration oriented modern artists, I'd say

>>4333743
This looks like the type of stuff I drew inside the covers of my books in highschool

>>4334003
Illustration, since it has a purpose, can't fall as low as art for art.

>>4334115
Are you saying that art if its not made for illustration purposes, has no purpose?

>>4334126
I'm saying it can have no purpose. Basquiat's paintings, or pic related for another example, are not useful (anymore) as objects.

Except of course for wealth hoarding, but that's unrelated to the art and that's contemptible and thus it can't help in maintaining any level of quality.

his paintings are better than anything anyone from this board made

>>4334277
> I'm saying it can have no purpose

Wrong, it does have purpose the purpose is to generate an emotion or be aesthetically pleasing.

>>4334888
>the purpose is to generate an emotion or be aesthetically pleasing.
A lot of art has been made with no effort towards either goal.

Pic related. A famous leftist artist once noticed that he had no contact with the people. So he decided to go to them instead of waiting for them to come into galleries and museums : he put this painting in a car factory's refectory, and went there incognito. The workers laughed at the painting and the misshapen characters at first, then ignored it. The artist saw that his would be comrades didn't understand his art and became sad.
Did he adapt his art afterwards to actually generate the emotions that he wanted, or to please these people's aesthetic tastes ? Did he thereafter attempt to produce a different kind of art, that attained these purposes ?

Nope.

>>4335367
just because hes not successful doesnt mean that wasnt the goal so

>>4335382
It's not that he was not successful, it's that he didn't try.
He didn't ask himself "how can I create emotions ?" and aimed to get better at that. If you don't work towards a purpose you don't have that purpose.

>>4335429
[citation needed]

>>4335434
At the time when the refectory story took place, he had been a painter for more than 40 years. And during all these years he had not realized that his art did not touch the common man. The only possible explanation is that the common man's feelings were not part of his work.

>>4335456
okay so he was making art that he liked that didnt have mass appeal who cares this isnt some hard point youre making, im sure he liked his own work and thought it was beautiful or it evoked emotion in him or else he wouldnt have been a painter for 40 years

(((is there more to it)))

>>4334883
Yes, at least they're not d*gital

>>4333964
>>4333989
"does anyone else agree with me that this is shit"
is not really a discussion.

>>4335465
My point is that when your art is made to please a small clique of people that care not for any practical use (like producing emotions) of your art, then there is no quality control, and you will tend to make useless pretentious garbage.

>>4333743
Whoever keeps making these Basquiat threads, please fuck off.

Right place, right time
He was in NYC in the 80's selling his work and happened to luck out and get noticed by some people in the art scene, including Andy Warhol, at a time when they were looking for the next new and unique modern artist.