/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>4328395
good doggy!

tier list gonna suck

>>4328395
blessed dog

if it's not good we must all band together and beat the list maker to death

>>4328400
this anon will be >skipped

Tipsys lists suck and mines are better.

>>4328403
the tribunal will decide their fate

The community here seems to be struggling. Not much interaction between users on the website. Are people waiting for some feature to be added on the website or a certain amount of active users to start doing anything outside of submissions? The official discord is also not active because hardly anyone knows about it at all or how to get in. I'm not expecting mid 2000s ConceptArt forum levels of community but there is a difference between an art community and some people who just upload art on a website.

>>4328409
>hes not in the secret active dad server

>>4328409
If you are not page 1 your opinion is discarded

>>4328395
very high effort op pic good job

>>4328409
we're all autistic, we communicate with each other through silent understanding

>>4328409
Were just not invited to the super secret dad society

I tried to make each tier fair and easy to understand. If you need them explained anyway, I'll do my best to provide in another post.
higher res here: https://imgur.com/a/Cy3ZxrT

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ANTICIPATED FAQ:

>Is this based on one image?
No. I take into account each lasso's recent posts as a whole.

>If you picked <submission_A> instead of <submission_B> for <lasso>, they would have been placed better!
Please refer to above answer.

>What are you basing this on? Style? Composition? Biased opinion?
Each placement is based on that lasso's strong suit.
ie. anime-posters will be judged based mostly on their character drawings. environment-chads will be judged mostly on their enviro pieces. furries on their gay shit, etc etc.

I have a comfortable idea of most lassos' strong suits. For those I'm unfamiliar with, I spent a little longer skimming their gallery.

>What are the "+" tiers? Why is there no B+ or C+?
The +'s are my "in-between" tiers.
ie. Lassos in A+ are more skilled than A, but don't quite yet match S.

>Skipped/Where's <lasso_name_here>?
I'm sorry anon. There are just so many names. If I did not include a well-known lasso, it's likely because they haven't submitted enough recent work for me to place them fairly. I also just might have missed some on accident. Apologies, but I'm only one person.

>>4328409
everyone at a certain skill level gets a message inviting them into the club. havent got one yet? keep practicing friend :)

>>4328415
REEE

>>4328409

Extremely legitimate concern!
And that is going to be one of the goals of the site redesign.


>>4328421

also this list is already bullshit because you put me, 51ip, mehmeh, and subu on the same tier, and those three guys are infinitely more skilled then i am at the present moment
moreover, subu did the hard red-lines that lead to the final picture you assigned for me. D might be more appropriate, D+ if generous. flattered, though.

>>4328421
awful

>>4328421
>arma the tracer over purin, meru and kazoo
>oneiro on the same field as naf
>banana in the same rank as tsflipp and subu

This is a shit list.

>>4328421

brother, I don't agree with this list and I need you to divulge your DAD account profile so adequate context can be provided unless you are in fact, tipsy

>>4328426
You've been saying the site would get an overhaul for the past 6 months now.

>>4328421
!!!! I forgot an important point:

Lack of consistency may have been why you were placed in a lower tier, despite the skill shown in the example image used to represent your name.

>>4328421
Hahahaha why do people always place me so high bahaha you don't even know I'm bad

>>4328433

i mean it's going to get one
just a matter of when i finish it

>>4328436
>just a matter of when i finish it

So another 6 month wait.

>>4328428
>arma the tracer
w-wha-nani?

>>4328437

Sure, maybe.

>>4328439
>he doesn't know
anon, I'm so sorry

>>4328421
>grigri on B, same tier as kringle, sugoi, tang and FUCKING INNO
>inno even being tier B
>nyroc, 51ip and mysticlog, etc under grigri

>>4328421
this is an awful tierlist. There are far superior artists in the same tier as me and
>oneironaut 3 tiers above sugoi+others
???

>>4328435
Im going to fuck jinx in her plump asshole

>>4328421
I'm flattered, but I think I should've been placed lower

>>4328421
you overranked people that just spam photostudies btw

>>4328421
>falling for the oneironaut meme

>>4328421
>Tier D
welp, what can I do to improve? I know that taking notes of your mistakes and studying on said flaws is one way but I don’t feel like that’s enough and I sorta want to get to Gabe tier before I die

>>4328440
Followed by delays I presume?

>>4328448
fucking this

>>4328421
This list is even worse than the last one.

>>4328451

yup yup yup!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eo3jslsZ1vo

>>4328454
ETA 2025

>>4328428
>banana, 51ip, mehmeh, subu
banana has shown significant improvement on environment, perspective, and anatomy. he gets to sit with the big kids. i won't have any sass. (also see answer for >naf)

>arma
they trace? ive seen much of their work before and haven't noticed this. please provide proof

>meru & kazoo
they've been showing steady improvement, but lack the consistency to place higher

>naf
he deserves a tier all his own, but i wanted to make as few tiers as possible for this.

>oneiro [S -> B]
okay this one i fucked up. im sorry, i must have mistaken them for someone else and not skimmed their gallery. as list-maker i demote oneiro to Tier B

>>4328448
like who?

>>4328448
This point reminds me of how non-artists see art, they will think you are a genius pro if you show a hyper-realistic reference study, and severely underestimate the difficulty of sketching a character from imagination

>>4328460
>they trace? ive seen much of their work before and haven't noticed this. please provide proof

You must be new here. Seriously.

>>4328460
I demote you from list-maker to latrine cleaner, I promote myself to boss of this gym

>>4328460
>>meru & kazoo
>they've been showing steady improvement, but lack the consistency to place higher
you're definitely new

dont worry guys im redoing his tier list gimme 15 min

>>4328460
arma traces over anime 3D models.

>>4328460
You write like a tierwunner.

>>4328409
This, website aside if no one puts into discussion and critiques then what's the point? Concept Art forums didn't magically happen out of nowhere. Almost none of those users were professionals at the time either so lack of skill is not a good excuse.

>>4328471
yay

>>4328460

> banana has shown significant improvement on environment, perspective, and anatomy. he gets to sit with the big kids. i won't have any sass. (also see answer for >naf)

PFFF WHAT
i take your point on the perspective but i struggle like hell with environments and i literally just began anatomy studies
every "clean figure" i've drawn for the most part was aggressively referenced or i had someone better than me red line it, with exception to the human in my dadsona which was just me but shittily drawn

>>4328474
The point is to draw art daily
FAGGOT

>>4328476

Don't be like that banana you improved tremendously and deserve your rank. Hell, I would put you up 2 more tiers. Keep going, I'm rooting for you and hope you make it in the hole to freedom in 5 years or less!

>>4328421

This tierlist is even worse then the two from the previous thread. Good job wasting your time.

>>4328421
Does the order matter for each tier

>>4328460
you fucked up with inno too, to be honest, because you probably judged him on his ability to draw a fucking face, instead of his ability as a concept / character artist or 3d artist
you absolute twat

>>4328481
Now you're just fucking around

>>4328479
Stay mad

>>4328421
>jason and grigri that high
must’ve been made by a discord circlejerker

>>4328489

I wouldn't joke about that? Hopefully you make it in sooner.

So....

Who made the tier list?

>>4328421
I'd move these

>DOWN 1 - Santi, potatoesspaghetti, dreamworldnetizen, the1banana, vani, grigri
>UP 1 - fujo, nessie, ativor, purin

Some other people like professor sugoi and kringlefkr could be moved up but they're not very consistent and their level fluctuates too much

>>4328444
>>4328448
>>4328482
People always rank tierlists by what they themselves value. Some people care about purely imagination, construction etc where people like naf and ativor would be high, others care about color and painted stuff so would put purin, nemori etc higher.
Tierlists are retarded.

>>4328491
that's a weak and nonsensical response, you get an F for faggot

>>4328421
Everyone calling this shit but it’s just one person’s opinion, which is not objectively shit.
If you are adept enough at judging yours and others’ work you can start to see someone’s bias and take what you want from their opinion as you weigh it against their bias.
I think this tierlist maker definitely just favors painterly/soulful artists over more technical ones.

>>4328421
Yeah this is really bad

dont know whats so great about naf, hes a 5/10 at most. ive seen better on /dad/. cute that he won a literal who contest tho.

the floodgates has been opened, you can either lie down and accept this list as gospel or stand up and fight with your own list... the choice is yours

>>4328492
?
Grigri’s behavior may come off as that but I wouldn’t consider the official DAD Discord a circlejerk and Jason isn’t even in the server last I checked, but the non art + site related channels are a bit unnecessary

>>4328505
NAF is only "good" because the bar is pretty bad on /dad/ to begin with. There are a lot of Vietnamese/Filipino artists that are relatively unknown that have just as good art as he does.

>start reading names from the top
>not in S or A. No problem
>keep going
>not in B... or C, start sweating
>get to D... hands trembling uncontrollably
>why go on
>eyes slowly track down to F
>oh my god
>skipped

>>4328421
>skipped
thank goodness

>>4328509
las discord, silly
The fact that sugarbeetles is there despite not having posted in weeks is also a sign

>>4328442
did grigri make the list?

>>4328515
Oh, didn’t know about that since I’ve heard the /las/ one is mostly cancer.

>>4328505
If 10/10 would be a world class artist like KJG then yeah, but this is a place for people who are still learning art so what do you expect. He's just one of the top students in class, not a professor

>>4328513
skippedchads rise up

>>4328505
he can draw figures with a 1px brush with no ref, that's something ic autistically loves
normies will always love someone like loish or sakimichan more because pretty colors and omg that cute girl is literally me

ran out of time but this is where i got off edits so far.
I don't really agree with ranking off of consistency because people have complicated lives. If you wanted to look at consistency I would be looking at the persons social media.
If your gallery is just full of photocopy/photostudy stuff and almost no creative work, or feels very stiff because of that you got dropped a bit.

I am def biased towards being able to make an appealing image over everything else, or just stronger sketching/designing ability.

>>4328505
Name everyone who's better than naf on dad.

>>4328434
Kind of a retarded move tbqh. You're putting people with a lot of skill ike Bezdommy, Saucy, and 51ip under people who put out weak works consistently.
Honestly the images you chose kind of give me the impression you are pretty new to Dad, combined with not knowing Oneironaut only does studies

>>4328530
>he can draw figures with a 1px brush with no ref, that's something ic autistically loves
literal shit taste. i remember when i thought 1pix brushes were cool too.

>>4328471
you better not just be saying that and actually deliver. i keep begging for these lists to be a collaborative effort, but all you do is post and leave.

>>4328484
no

>>4328472
give me proof. is he not adding anything new or of value to the 3d model he draws over? his linework suggests he has some confidence in perspective and anatomy.

>>4328470
they will stay where they are

>>4328488
inno is one i struggled with. i must have gone back through his gallery three times. the feedback solidifies my doubts. i will re-place him.
>judged on his ability to draw a face
wrong. that is not where inno's strengths lie.

>>4328492
i struggled to place girgri like i did with inno. i will re-place them both. jason stays.

>>4328497
santi stays. the rest are negotiable

>>4328499
>favors painterly/soulful artists over more technical ones
studies-heavy galleries were tough to place. i assume we all want to be able to draw from imagination, so i tried judging based on creative pieces. studies were counted too, they just hold far less weight.

>>4328532
Just stop, it's still bad.

>>4328532
>>4328534
oh, drop oneironaut to B if everything in his gallery is studies, i assumed a fair bit of it was original

>>4328537
ok santi

>>4328532

>dtierdaddy not in tier d
It's what he wants :^)

>>4328541
Ah so it was him all along.

>>4328535
most people here focus way too heavily on anatomy
what happens in a couple of years when you can draw a perfectly accurate figure, but they're still just standing there without any clothes, not doing anything, not even shaded let alone painted

>>4328532
>oneironaut still S
All opinions disqualified

same tier as fujo btw

>>4328532

coombrain spotted

>>4328550
Amended them to b friend :)

>>4328546
iirc santi started on an unironic more thorough list but it only has two people on it
Somehow I doubt he'd make one this bad

>>4328532
I love how you can always tell how experienced someone is based on where they put Finlay. Finlay's work is semi-abstracy but there's incredibly strong foundation underneath it, which I think someone with a bit more experience can immidiately spot. Inno lower than Aruvee, Subu and Vusta is ridiculous. Bez should also be higher. The fact that Grigri and Bez are in the same rank is lulzy.

>>4328530
Don't forget that the number of DADs who actually can complete a fully fleshed out, finished comic chapter can be counted on one hand. Many have tried, many have failed miserably

love me some tierlists

tierlists were a mistake

>>4328421
IM A B TIER

IM SO HAPPY MAN I FINALLY ESCAPED TIER 1

I am neutral on the subject of tierlists

>>4328532
>subu moved up two tiers
what the fuck lol

>>4328560
>who actually can complete a fully fleshed out, finished comic chapter
you forgot to add "in a month", because that's honestly the most impressive part about this

>>4328557
finlay has work to do in regards to making his stuff more approachable but i def dig his stuff. his perspective is pretty solid from what I know.
Inno is putting out a lot of creative/design work but needs to work more on foundational drawing stuff

>>4328553
I raised up people who can draw figures interacting in environments with decent lighting, which tends to be porn lol

>>4328567
subu is suburashi right? I've seen some good stuff on discord, he seems to be improving fast

>>4328567
Subu is incredibly weak fundamentally. At least his colors aren't that bad.

>>4328564
wtf whys sugoi n bezdommy in the same tier as me this is retarded

>>4328567
Subu's placement is actually another good way of judging how good these tierlists are, because Subu can do pretty colors that makes art looks good on a surface level, but his character art skills and fundies in general are incredibly weak

>>4328571
>New
>Browses the /las/ discord
>Values painting over other things
I'm 90% sure this is TEETH

>>4328568
Yea I was thinking about that while writing it, but then it occurred to me that even if you gave most of us an entire year we couldn't do it, it takes skill in a large number of different things. After trying to do it I gained some serious respect for comic makers

>>4328571
>subu is suburashi right
no subu is subu on discord

>>4328421
>skipped despite posting 11 times this season

>>4328578
Who's ready for comic month 2, electric boogaloo?

>>4328576
>can do pretty colors that makes art looks good on a surface level, but his character art skills and fundies in general are incredibly weak
ohhhhh you have no idea how many people including me this describes, it hurts

Can someone explain to me why some mediocre artists get circlejerked? Is it just that the discord has bad taste? At least in the threads I see them called out for their lack of fundies/etc.

>>4328584
In the discord? It's just that they're friends, probably.
Also, give names.

>>4328584
discord has names attached to it

can't believe i'm postponing going to the gym because i want to monitor this thread a little more, post more lists, burn down gotham

>>4328584
Why do you think genius, when social aspect gets involved (chat/reputation), people naturally suck the dick of the people they like the most

>>4328576
>>4328572
>>4328580
color/appeal is a skillset. im not into animu stuff much though.

>>4328577
i value stronger dynamic sketching pretty highly, and yeah ability to make an image look finished probably goes into it

>>4328593
I hate this fucker, he never wants to take criticism.

>>4328584
In the discord you see everyone's work and see that they're working harder or making gains or whatever. I doubt most people check the submissions on the site, so if you're only on DAD people won't know you as well and will judge from just a handful of most recent posts.

>>4328593
So are you TEETH or not

>>4328595
Agree. I’ve seen Subu post in the /alt/ threads and while his coloring makes me jelly he seems to be a bit hostile, especially that one time he received a redline, but to be fair everybody in those threads seems to be incredibly bitter.

>>4328587
I've seen a lot of people call Teeth a literal god and stuff like that and really all he's been doing are studies of other artists. Other anons here share my opinion of Subu, and it felt weird to see DreamworldNetizen so high on the first tier list. These ones I guess are just the loudest though.

>>4328560
i read the comic its not that impressive lol...

>>4328597
no lol

>>4328604
whats impressive then

>>4328604
Are you naf himself trying to devalue your own credibility?

So... this is the power of tier lists...

>>4328604
post your username

>>4328604
I didn't mention anything about the quality, I said just being able to make a comic like that at all puts somebody high up out of all the users

>>4328603
I called him a god ironically only to feed his ego.

>>4328613
twentypai

>>4328602
I think he just has a bad idea of his skill level. Unironically he's got a bit of Dunning-Kruger going on. He used to do lots of fucky redlines and crits but would refuse anyone trying to tell him the flaws in his work.

>>4328567
So uh... subu remade that tierlist then?

>>4328603
I feel like netizen has a brain problem

>>4328421
why is silvermis in B rank?

>>4328577
i dont know who this is but you cant just accuse me of every being every single poster

>>4328614
>>4328604
The comic looks better than a lot published manga honestly

>>4328622
>t. naf

>>4328617
I require links to the redlines.

>>4328622
To be fair though, isn't most manga published weekly?

>>4328621
You are every single poster including me

>>4328628
b-banana?!

>>4328626
to be fair though, aren't most weekly published manga accompanied by a team ?

damn this is a cluster fuck im gonna make my own tierlist

reply to this post with ur username if u want to be ranked :))))))

thread is so spicy nobody'll notice this poll
https://strawpoll.com/arp9h574

>>4328632
Lilramune.

>>4328577
>>4328532
https://www.instagram.com/tayloreroseart/
this is was me btw (the edits) feel free to disregard opinion accordingly.

>>4328632
teeth

>>4328632
mathias

>>4328637
I like the guy riding a rat

>>4328632

wolf/ativor is really underrated gamer

>>4328637
how do we know this is actually you and not just you larping as somebody else? but if you’re legit
>having the guts to make a tierlist despite not even having an acc on the site
fuck right off

>>4328632
the1banana

>>4328650
https://dad.gallery/submissions/51628

Now that people are namedropping like mad I want to say the same thing about hoppy. His skills are unbalanced because he comfort zones really hard. You can see how wonky his figures are when he tries to go outside his zone.

>>4328650
It's potatoes_spaghetti you tard, their IG art is on Dad too. They made Plein air january

>>4328653
i sincerely don't understand why lilramune continues to stay in these threads

>>4328532
nice, agreed with a lot of my changes here >>4328497

>potato unironically raised himself a tier to A+
No I choose to believe he did it as a joke

>>4328641
you do know my name is ren rn on dad right

>>4328654
Sorry about that, I’m sorta tired and the namedropping and tierlists has gotten me a bit riled up, also
>tard
Rude. :^)

>>4328653

No, you're supposed to praise hoppy so he stays in his comfort zone. Don't make him actually try to improve please.

>>4328662
lmao

>>4328653
Eh when it comes to younger users like him, gri, jason, you kind of have to take their age into account. I definitely agree with criticisms about their art but at the same time the average user's age here is mid-20s, while their brains literally haven't fully developed yet.

>>4328655
>everyone is ramune, banana, and tipsy

>>4328668
Now this is lilramune

>>4328662
Based

>>4328674
wrong again you shizo

I miss Sharkvore and the other dead furrie dads :(

>>4328677
ok, ramune

>>4328663
don't give a shit teeth go back to guzzling the cum of eastern artists

Someone name drop me

>>4328662
its hard to rank this stuff cause you got people playing different games with art more or less. like people who are striving for good value and composition, compared to dudes who shoot for raw figure mastery.
compare: claire wendling to magi puig for instance
or kazuo oga to miyazaki
just different games

>>4328682
Me

>>4328682
mysticlog

>>4328682
alm0nde

>>4328668
lol hoppy is like 16 fuck off just let em draw whatever they want, they dont have to be trying to be the next KJG or whatever

>>4328681
im starting to genuinely wonder why u have a vendetta against me

>>4328683
Feels kinda weird that you raised yourself while also lowering Coin to below you. If anything I'd say that you two are probably at the same level.

If you submit to dad tomorrow you are a big gay

>>4328689
lowkey based

>>4328683
Yeah but what you are saying doesn't attend to the issue. How you are perceived by others is like being judged in a class. Whether your result was fair or not, you don't just get to decide you passed. Otherwise there is no reason to even go there, just sit in the mirror and masturbate

That is why you don't increase your own rank

>>4328682
ryanrabbat

>>4328689
Just go back to your studies, buddy. Grown ups are discussing.

>>4328699
how old are u

>>4328692
yeah i could agree with that, i haven't seen enough of their work but they have the confident color game going

>>4328695
if you lower people on a tier list you're effectively increasing your own rank, i think the only answer here would be to not rank yourself at all

>>4328700
25

*shits diaper*

>>4328708
whats ur username

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAYL5H46QnQ

>>4328711
sips

>>4328692
I think Coin definitely should be lowered, he has good colors but his drawing skills need work when you take time to look at the characters of his paintings

>>4328712
ok I lost it at the cell phone

>trying to tell an artist to not have a big ego

Am I the only one who unironically gets aroused by tierlists?

>>4328712
mother of nostalgia

>>4328721
Yeah not arguing that, just where they placed themselves in relation to coin felt kind of dunning-krugery

i know most of you just want to spit and snarl, but your feedback is making this out to be a collaborative effort. silly fools

>>4328421
TIER LIST VER 1.0.1 PATCH NOTES

>Added lassos
[A] Ren
[C] psychotoday
[F] Yukari Sensei

>Promoted
[A -> A+] Ativor
[B -> A] Inno, Saucy
[C -> B] Fujo, 51ip

>Demoted
[A <- B] potatoes-spaghetti
[B <- S] Oneironaut
[C <- B] Grigri, Silvemis

>>4328421
>oneironaut on S
>he doesn't know
HAHAHAHA

>>4328727
no wtf
why are my fetishes so weird

>>4328727
I get ironically aroused

>>4328727
No, I love them too, even though I never get ranked.

>>4328731
>demoted potatoes
justice has been dealt

>>4328731
please demote me

>>4328731
This is not much better

>>4328731
>coin s
>potato b
>dreamworld b
>51ip c

???

>>4328731
Okay Ren

potatoes, how could you....

>>4328731
You're overvaluing yourself, ren.

>>4328739
its cool i know where my strengths are at ;D

Is choob missing from these lists?

>>4328731
>Oneironaut
If you're gonna base this off original art, at least use something that's not just a copy

>>4328731
Where's my favorite daddy, defunct?

>>4328731
Wow it's still trash somehow

>>4328731
potato revealed themselves now u have to

>>4328731
Please stop copying anime girl portraits Teeth/Ren

>>4328753
>hiding hands and feet

JMGN SAVE US

>>4328731
you should put me in C that pic was heavily referenced from and much worse than a @jonpei pic
https://twitter.com/jonpei/status/1111695747672506369?s=20

>>4328744
>>4328747
>>4328759
i wouldnt put myself in same or higher tier than sugoi or finlay lol

>>4328532
Ngl I prefer this edit over the original
It reads to me like consistency/showing a base comfortableness and understanding in their work was a factor,
Which inevitably meant drawing skills was more valued. Probably why Inno is so low, same with painter dads.
Personally would also lower banana.

>>4328765
At least you're honest. You're redeemed

>>4328683
>>4328662
Your stuff always seems very messy and unfinished to me potatoes. Maybe you have clean well planned stuff elsewhere but if so I havent seen it

>>4328744
>>4328577
>>4328541
>>4328431
tfw you get to sit back unnoticed while anons scramble to name the tierlist-poster

>>4328581
i hope i was able to add you anon!

>>4328771
Check their social media

>>4328752
yes. he didnt submit enough work recently to be placed

>>4328771
His level doesn't matter, just that he'd actually raise his own rating is fucked up

Imo potatoes is quite inconsistent, they have highs and lows. There's soul and some nice comps but needs more in fundies and selling a piece.

g word

>>4328779
Who cares at least he revealed himself

>>4328779
She's good at what she does but overvalues her skills at times. She's good at comps though.

Anyone else think Sugoi is an interesting case?
They produce very appealing finished work and have an excellent style, but there's something wonky, unconvincing about it.

>>4328776
I have, unless things are 3D it's like theyre just scribbling and throwing things around and hoping they work

>>4328792
No, you're right. She has this syndrome of always locking into the same perspective, and still struggles with it. It even shows in the faces.

TIER LISTS

yo what the fuck already 200+ posts

>>4328792
Their characters have that same glazed over dead doll eye look that kringle's characters do, I don't know exactly what causes it

>>4328801
it's comfort zone. All the colorkiddies do it.

>>4328792
>wonky, unconvincing
sugoi here. you p much hit the nail on the head

im still stuck in that awkward spot between successful stylization and stiff anatomy. slowing down my output recently hasn't helped at all either

Shut the fuck up already.

>>4328804
That's not it, too vague. It might be some fuckery going on with the reflections in the eyes and unfocused pupils or something

seethe

>>4328793
Huh

>>4328796
>>4328801
I'm thinking it's a stronger focus on 2d, so there's appeal on a shape level and on a surface anime level,
but with the slight rendering, the lack in 3d shows

>>4328804
>colorkiddies
Spoken like a true colorvirgin

>>4328806
sit your fuck down

>>4328754
low B tier

>>4328804
wtf is a colorkiddy

>>4328799
see >>4328797
also anonymous name shitposting drama too

>>4328805
Possibly just sketch more with 3d in mind, focus less on nice lines (as much as I like you lines and how you simplify things)

>>4328818

>>4328792
Something about the faces looks so very derpy. Same with subu faces

>>4328813
It's really just the eyes that bother me, can't put my finger on why

>>4328804
>unga bunga coloring BAD

>>4328805
Also push gesture, not necessarily anatomy imo

>>4328821
back to the study dungeon i guess

>>4328827
Naf doesn't color much and he's the best on the site. Maybe take some notes, colorkiddie.

>have effectively moved down over the last 3 tierlists despite drawing every day since before the 51ip one
welp might as well pack it in

Someone please mention me...

>>4328835
Shitpost about yourself. It's what I do.

>>4328832
hold up a second are you actually arguing using color in drawing is bad or are you arguing that you need to train monochrome first to better use color, like they did in ye olden days

>>4328832
>Meanwhile Papa and barkode both do heavy blockins and both have had 6 figure industry jobs

>>4328834
It's just subjective opinions by individuals
If it's any help, my subjective opinion is to HANG IN THERE ANON

>>4328818
literally any artist that isn't too pussy to render their work

>>4328801
kringles characters just dont have any noses

>>4328838
I'm not saying using color in drawing is bad, I'm saying using color to mask poor foundation is while being defensive over your frail ego.

>>4328818
It's someone who neglects other aspects because of rendering.

>>4328837
Lilramune?

>>4328849
>Thinking color and light aren't a foundation

>>4328851
No, I shitpost about hoppy.

>>4328849
You're not talking to the same person and you're speaking gibberish

>>4328851
banana

SEETHE

>>4328858
Ooof daddy, no more! I don't wanna see reality for what it is!

>colour vs drawing debate

Ok but who do you think is the most well rounded lasso?
Kazoo comes to mind for me

>>4328866
naf is better at coloring than most daddies that do nothing but paint

only 10 votes? we can do better than that!
https://strawpoll.com/arp9h574

>>4328866
Wolf is probably one of the best/most well rounded from what I've seen, they just rush their work a bit, so you gotta find their highlight reel stuff

>>4328866
Mathias

>>4328731
Papa if you do another revision please include me (paganini) thanks

>>4328872
Mathias is great too yee

>>4328868
Nafs colours are passable but fairly unappealing ngl
t. colourfag

>>4328866
Mathias and Sleepy

>>4328869
Fuck off florida bitch. We're doing a dad-exclusive discussion here.

>>4328870
Who's wolf? Post link/work?

>>4328877
I feel like sleepy neglects drawing a bit compared to her coloring skills but she's a fucking monster so it doesn't even matter.

>>4328866
justmegabenewell and miloyoyo are the only correct answers. Everyone else need not apply.

>>4328880
Ativor on dad, he is known as wolf on the Discord

>>4328877
How did I forgot about sleepy
Sleepy is queen

>>4328870
Ativor?

>>4328880
Ativor, go on Las discord and scroll through their scraps.

>go outside to do some plein air duck sketching
>no matter where I go to stand or sit the ducks find some piece of landscape to hide behind so that I can't draw anything

well fuck you too I didn't even really want to draw you...

>>4328885
Oh I like it.
They have the kind of style I want to read a comic in. Strong confident drawing.

>>4328879

Florida bitch?

>>4328834
you need to have some humor about it, it's like this: if you are rated low you have an excuse to look at everyone else and realize what they do good that you can learn from, it's like a free checkup to see what to practice. If you are ranked high you get big dick bonus boost. It's win/win. Except if you ignore all that and just say ''man fuck what you say I'm #1'' like a mama's boy, then you will not grow

i never knew /ic/ could be so active

>>4328421
>>4328731
>choosing my most embarrassing work
im flattered but thanks potato kun

>>4328900
That one isn't me, I did the edited version in between ;o

>>4328899
>42 posters
Figures.

>>4328898
Lol most tierlists are pretty bad, there is not a lot to learn from rankings most of the time

What’re your fetishes /dad/? We’re all anonymous here so there’s no shame in telling.

>>4328894
I warned them beforehand

Bully me!

>>4328906
glasses, hugging and hand holding

>>4328909
dare...

>>4328881
>I feel like sleepy neglects drawing a bit compared to her coloring skills
I see it the other way around, she's fucking strong drawer, just even better colourer

>but she's a fucking monster so it doesn't even matter.
True.

*burps*

>>4328905
It's too difficult to rate people cos everyone values different things. Like the industry color key guys like dice versus people like katsuya terada

>reached the bump limit in less than 3 hours
WHAT
THE
FUCK
DAD

>>4328919
Whatever, teeth.

>>4328924
Nop

chan is giving me paranoia
fuck you guys
see you never

>>4328924
I feel like "industry color key" isn't in Teeth's vocab

>>4328927
This gives me great pleasure

>>4328929
It's potato trying to justify his narcissism

>>4328922
the true power of tierlists has been beheld

>want to say my name to get anon comments
>but already know I'm not very good and need to work on everything and will just be slapped with "study anatomy"
>too shy to even get non-anonymous crits

>>4328934
I think I'm good at environments and terrible at anatomy. Maximum narcissism achieved :∆}

Say what you want about random drama.
I think these threads have been more active than they're ever been.

>>4328922
We must go even further beyond
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>let's post this tier li

I said shut the fuck up.

>>4328927

see you tomorrow

>>4328951
YOU shut the fuck up

>>4328951
NO

>>4328421
You are now on a zombie apocalypse team with your fellow tiermates. How do you fare?

>>4328955
me on the left

>>4328884
but they're dead

>>4328957
I just have a feeling Goblin would kills us all so not very good.

>>4328957
naf so i can use him as body armor

>>4328938
same

>>4328957
Tier F makes it through the power of pure soul

>>4328957
i kill myself

>>4328957
Tier B rise up

>>4328957
We use the furries as cannon fodder while the rest of us escape

>>4328957
We use the weebs as cannon fodder while the rest of us escape

>>4328957
Is being skipped a tier?

Should I rejoin DAD? Is it worth it?

Yesss, kill both of them

>>4328972
skipped dads are super zombies
everyone else skipped is a zombie
>the rest of the planet

>>4328974
No, begone foul demon!

>>4328974
Only if you're one of the posters everyone misses, otherwise you're an unwelcome presence.

How do I not get skipped next tier list?

Imagine repopulating the earth is just dads

>>4328983

Tie a noose, think about gains, then the rest will follow.

>>4328983
uhhhh draw art daily

>>4328984
the human race is doomed

>>4328983
stop losing your streak dummy

tierlist version 0.6.9

lots of horny dads today
really makes you think

>>4328996
Still bad

>>4328996
ok

here’s my tier list
tier 5+
me and the furryposters

tier 1
everybody else

remove me from this tier list shit you niggers.

>>4328996

so is that 3 distinct levels of Dick, or are they all counted on the same tier of "Dick"?

>>4328996
I feel like Inno and Bez should be A+ but other than that I think this is probably the best tier list this thread

>>4328997
I really love <INSERT_NAME>

>>4328996
Incredible workmanship, an excellent list mwah

>>4329004
you tell em tsflipp

>>4328996
Not so fast!

>>4328996
What the hell is vastian doing that high?

>>4328996
Am I the only one that doesn't think coin is that good, they can do enviro which means a lot but I find their stuff muddy and unappealing more than half the time.

>>4328996
nice

>>4329004
add this guy to the list twice

>>4328996
these tiers are very rude

>>4329016
He's good just needs to draw more to hit s tier

>>4328421
>not skipped
w-what the heck
now i have to start drawing again to escape tier hell??

>>4329009
---e

>me when shitposting itts

my favorite part is the A+ spelling fAggo+

>>4329026
your name?

>>4329030
Dare

>>4328996
I would possibly raise subu and sugarbeetle but this overall is a Good Tierlist

>>4329031
No you're not, she doesn't post itt.

heh, lilramune's still here

No I'm not here. *runs away*

>>4329035
he's training so that one day he can become illastrat

>>4329037
forGIbb mEE

>>4329041
*walks back in to kick you in the nuts*
*runs back out*

>>4329041
he's doing a pretty good job

>>4328637
sorry potatoes but your work is not at all pleasing to look at and takes less skill than you imagine. every piece is a filthy mess that reeks of a pretentious aura.

>>4329005
Theyre the same there's no point in dividing them

>>4329053
; D

>>4329041
>illastrat
>not Mikufag

>>4329060
Those 2 are still better than the1suicidal.

>>4329053
That's too harsh, all he's guilty of is having an overinflated ego. It's quite rare actually, usually people underestimate themselves rather than overestimate

>>4329064
actually this is wrong, the vast majority of people overestimate themselves by a ridiculous margin. like those studies where something like 80% of people think they drive better than 50% of drivers

>>4329064
I think my self assessment is I tend to be really lazy with my work. I have a few areas I know I'm solid on and that's about it.

>>4329064
tv showed me otherwise

>>4329064
Would you rather be cursed with over or underestimating yourself?

>>4329079
I think it doesn't matter as long as you have goals in mind that you're still wanting to climb to achieve. There's a sweet spot for sure but leaning on confidence tends to be rewarded

>>4329079
If you underestimate yourself you will succeed as a happy surprise, if you try at all that is. If you overestimate yourself you will fail catastrophically and make it very hard for yourself to improve, but you may not even notice it because you're the best go you

>>4329089
There's a difference between being (over)confident and thinking your work is perfect

>>4329079
People hate people who think they're better than they actually are, so I'd rather think I'm worse

I know exactly what my level is, but isn't that what everyone thinks about themselves?

>>4329093
what's the difference

>>4329097
Former is cocky latter thinks they have nothing to work on and there work is untapped perfection

>>4328996
tfw haven't been moved in any of the list

cooom

>>4329100
The latter describes being cocky

(Over/under)confident list when?

>>4329101
Same

>>4329110
too hard

>>4329110
x axis = ability
y axis = confidence

>>4329116
Just make a challenge where everyone tries to rank themselves and then we can make the list from that

>>4329120
that's illegal

>>4329109
I think a cocky person can still think their work is below frazetta, Mullins, etc. It's a spectrum

Imagine being in a room trying to sort a tierlist with dads except it’s irl.
How many physical altercations would there be
I for one would walk out within 5minutes for sure

>>4329124
It'd be awkward af

>>4329124
It would get physical real fast

>>4329124

most of these pussies wouldn't say half the shit they type to my face irl to my monstrous 5'6 220lb frame

Where’s all the rats?

>>4329123
yea but when the only people that they are below are untouchable godlike masters, for all practical purposes it's the same

>>4329135
there are loads of rats, dad's crawling with them

>>4329124
imagine getting physical with a dad

>>4329135
I was drawing mine but then I stopped because my lord Satan ordered me to make 419 shitposts

>>4329136
Nah I disagree because it would imply the person still is striving to improve (unless they see those people as unattainable savants etc)
Kind of just semantics tho

>>4328996
>>4328731
>skipped
ok

Since making tierlists is hard list 5 daddies that you think are strong and 5 that you think they need to work harder.

>>4329141
based stan

>>4329145
yah it's fine what you say makes sense

>>4329124
DAD meetup when?

>>4329147
dad 1
dad 2
dad 3
dad 4
dad 5

dad 6
dad 7
dad 8
dad 9
dad 10

>>4329124

>>4329154
>>4329140

>>4329164
>tfw will finally be the last artist standing

>>4329147
>strong tier
everyone else
>need to work harder tier
me

>>4329141
Get back to work I need more rats

>>4328996
>filename
(you)

>>4329180
OK thank you Satan

>>4329004
Go back to sending lewds to young girls, shitstain

>>4328996
what if she's already dead

>>4329195
i'm sorry dad

>>4328731 (One)
>>4328996 (Two)
Which tier list is better
https://www.strawpoll.me/19304965

>>4329214
Neither, Potato's was better

>>4329223
ok patata

>>4328731
>>4328996
>triple skipped
I'm going to draw so much that you'll have no choice but to recognize me!

>>4329223
>>4329226
nop i am potat