/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>4311321
This is too /beg/ to go in /asg/ how the hell do i improve on the hair. I fucking hate doing anime hair.

>>4311321
Damn Redliner is badass AF, we need more folks like that around
I didn't even notice the mistakes

>>4311330
at least learn to flip your image first f am

>>4311321
the redliner did nothing wrong

I drew a bunny but I stuck it’s ass up in the air too much so I might go back and fix it. I really tried to get the shading plus local color but it’s messy.

>>4311321
Can someone further explain the lighting errors in that image. The physics calculations are too big for my smooth brain.

>>4311340
I don't know how to man. I'm a phone poster and this is my first time posting a image in this thread pls send help

>>4311321
Isn't the general rule that if it looks right it is?
Who cares about anatomy, perspective and construction.
I'll tell you who doesn't care: literally everyone outside of this board.

>>4311373
>I'm a phone poster
How about you stop being a retard

>>4311374
having an attitude like this is exactly why you will ngmi

Just started the Bargue drawing course.
How accurately do I need to copy the plates before I can move on to the next one?

>>4311374
You will ngmi

any advice on how to get better at colouring?

>>4311374
You will make it, now that you know the truth.

>>4311377
Anon you're asking the impossible from me.

>>4311379
>Bargue
big oof chief

>>4311436
What's wrong with bargue?

>>4311374
Looks right to who? The average jerk off who has no understanding about art?
In that logic some of the beg shit that get posted here will be perfect because the average person will find no fault in them.

>>4311374
In general I agree with you. If it looks right it is right.
However.
Normies don't have the knowledge to consciously care about anatomy and perspective, but if you make bad enough mistakes in these areas (assuming you're trying to draw realistically or semi-realistically), it will make the picture look "no longer right" and people will immediately see that and they will care, even if they don't have the vicabulary to explain why.
On the other hand you have a lot of retards on boards like this who are eager to show off and hyper-analyze and nitpick every "mistake" in a drawing possible, even if the mistakes don't actually make the drawing look worse (in some cases they even make it look better). You can safely ignore these people.

monke

>>4311515
super weird but i really dig the rendering on the yellow sweater

could anyone throw some critique or advice for this? im planning to ditch using lines and shit for shadows cuz i cant achieve something that looks well with it

>>4311321
I have yet to grind anatomy, digital art and mindlessly doodling is so much more fun ;-; But I need to get better, drew this real quick, was fun

>>4311374
gmi

>>4311682
pose is stif and unexpressive

sense of anatomical form is weak

foreshortening is wrong
lines are scratchy and unconfident

no sense of lineweight

design is tacky and overwrought

detailing is sloppy

hands are too small

>>4311682
Is that a pollaxe or one of them gay keyblades?

>>4311768
okay but how do i change it and how did you come to those conclussions? design is how it's supposed to be
>>4311776
axe/staff thingy

>>4311374
NOOOOOOOOOOOO
YOU HAVE TO BUY MY COURSE, GOY.
OTHERWISE YOUR ART WILL LOOK LIKE SHIT

So what's a good way to learn the head/figure?
I have Loomis, Hampton's book and Constructive anatomy from Bridgman.

>>4311790
do gesture thumbnails to nail down the pose before you render

study anatomy

study perspective

practice clean linework

focus on defining large forms accurately before moving into details

study anatomy

i came to these conclusions because i'm better than you

>>4311794
probably loomis if you're a complete beginner

>>4311796
you must be really autistic to not trying to understand what i was saying and just jumping into your own conclusions but ok, you can jerk off to the thought that you are better than a hobbyist

>>4311805
oh God i'm COOOOOOOMMINNG

>>4311805
Don't bother replying to the crabs.
The only thing he was right about is the anatomy being a bit whatever, but really it doesn't bother me all that much.

>>4311321
Redliner is correct and that post was amazing. I'm curious though, is it OK to fuck up on anatomy sometimes? I mean maybe you want to see the ass and the face in one picture. Maybe not physically possible. But is there a way to bend the rules? Can you be an artist and fuck up anatomy in order to put your vision on canvas? And how do you do that without just being wrong? How do you make that distinction? I know this is not anatomically accurate but it's OK because...

>>4311826
sure, i mostly lurk and i'm trying to find new stuff to understand so you know he got me

>>4311831
Look at any of the $30k+ patreon artists, their anatomy is all over the place but literally no one cares except us.
You should study anatomy, but you should never make it the most important thing in your drawings unless you're doing drawings for a medical book or something.
Always choose aesthetics over realism.

Im utterly confused as to how someone manages to render like this. I assume it's a mix of photobashing and painting right?

Vilppu attempts #2
ignore the nonsensical shading

>>4311850
>vilppu attempts

sure

>>4311849
99% photobashing

been a while since I've posted, hey bros. same anon who did the luchador girl a while back

>>4311761
eyes are uneven, try doing your T next time. neck is a tad thin, there's not much chin, etc. good effort though!

>>4311515
apart from some of your edges I really like this. naisu

>>4311382
fun taste, think about your shapes more when shading. other than that, just draw more

>>4311330
hair too stiff, doesn't take into account the form underneath

>>4311851
I'm starting small, with simple characters that have elements that can transfer to more complex characters (Adorabat's wing, for example. Also Adorabat has very subtle hips so that's a challenge)

>>4311515
Blog?

>>4311790
He can't tell you how he came to those conclusions because everyone on this board just says random shit and has no reasoning for any of it.

>>4311515
my space?

>>4311321
How do I know were to place the right shoulder and arm when constructing this, is there a simple strategy you can memorize?

>>4311851
here's some actual vilppu attempts then

My gestures always come out with wonk proportions, do i just grind until i get it right or is there something i should do to fix it?

I think I'm improving at three-quarter but my profile faces are fucked. (Frontal is a bit too easy which is why I don't really practice those.)
I'm holding off on features and focusing more on proportions now.
Any crit?

>>4311914
practice more

>>4311932
>Gives vain advice like “just practice more” and never actually critiques the other persons art
Yikes

>>4311932
> practice more

Oh really?

>>4311330
Draw B I G G E R

>>4311934
to be fair to him i didn't post a picture of my shit, and i asked whether my problem would go away with practice or if I needed to do something more to fix it

>>4311515
Get out of /beg/, you’re not a beginner

>>4311942
It took like 100-200 different gestures until I finally "got" gestures

failure motivates me to improve

>>4311930
For profile views, the basic structure of the front of the face isn’t concave. It’s a straight line, and some features like the nose jut outward.

>>4312009
>>4312013
I hope you'll improve your reading and resizing images skill

>>4312024
at least try to draw a real man

Daily reminder that /beg/ (actually /ic/ in general) is a beg trap and you should get out of here while you still can.
Literally anywhere is better than here.
The only usefull things here on /ic/ are the books thread and the video course threads to download free art shit.
That's it. Everything else here is garbage meant to confuse new artists.
Crabs aren't the odd ones out, we are. This is their habitat. We don't belong here.
Get out now.

>>4311374
Exactly what I was thinking while I was reading through that OP image.

People on this board love to shit on Sakimi-chan or whoever the fuck artist and nitpick the smallest things. I can't, for the life of me, understand why they do this but it really is just people on this board that do this.

>>4311374
difference between using this as an excuse for your mistakes and breaking the rules with purpose to achieve a desired effect

Why my hands and footies look bad.

>>4312093
You literally can't tell the difference between someone who just goes by what looks good or someone who knows all their fundies but "breaks the rules".
Huh, interesting how that works.
Turns out we humans tend to agree about what looks good and what doesn't, no matter how much knowledge of art you have.
If the OP pic was done according to the red liner, it would be worse despite being technically more accurate.

>>4312101
you're literally wrong

>>4312105
no u

>>4312100
It doesn’t seem like you broke up the hand into enough basic shapes to get your end result

I've gotta say, drawing with my shoulder and learning pen sensitivity is a fucking BITCH. I feel like a caveman banging rocks together for the first time.

If someone had told me that circles and lines could be this frustrating I'd have laughed at them

I know this is bad but I can't really identify what it is. I keep doing Loomis and need go a bit off the sketch head reference because I think I do them wrong. I'll post my loomis too. I feel the jaw is too big?

>>4312101
This. Seeing the face looking back at the viewer. makes for a better picture even though it's not realistic.

>>4312128

>>4312044

>>4312115
>how beg do you have to be to find drawing circles hard

>>4312141
Drawing a circle that looks like one smooth line and not a egg, potato, or looped string?

Yea it's pretty fucking hard m8

>>4312143
If your beg as hell then yeah.

>>4312101
maybe you can't

Focusing on figure drawing atm. Any advice?

>>4312149
I once saw a drawing demonstration from an animator at Disney, he was teaching how to draw different characters. As he began he drew a circle, and the whole room were impressed with how well executed it was. How many thousands of circles had this man drawn throughout his lifetime? To all of us it seemed flawless. His only acknowledgement of the circle was 'It's not perfect, but I suppose it will do.'

If even the masters at Disney have trouble drawing circles, I'm going to guess some shitter on /beg/ is probably just over confident.

anyone know if UCF has a good studio art program

>>4312205
Go back to drawing circles anon.

>>4311321
Took a better photo and resized

drawing a perfect circle is hard not just for /beg/

anyone telling you otherwise is crabbing u

>>4312204
>>4312216
ref

>>4312128
>>4312134
Next time don’t half ass the construction and actually follow your construction lines.

guys, working through loomis now. how do i split my practice in terms of working from loomis ref. vs from imagination? 50:50? or should i be doing mostly from ref in the beginning? (about halfway through fun with a pencil, just started drawing bodies)

>>4311368
you just needed to look up a couple bunny pics first, you symbol drew most of mr hops here.

>>4311903
concentrate on measurements next go, your drawing his belly and torso thinker than it is, and some of the limbs are different sizes

>>4312216
try drawing on a tilted surface or tilting the paper up to check it, it looks like you distorted the proportions because you didn't do that, also measure body parts by comparing them to others body parts, the left and right arm are different sizes.

>>4312287
Am I at least doing the VIlppu method for gesture correctly?

>>4312283
50:50 is fine, some people would say mostly ref but don’t force yourself if you get tired of too much studying. Fun with a pencil isn’t mandatory, feel free to move to the figure drawing book.

>>4312289
eh, you look like your doing construction more than gestures. I don't know much of Vilppu, but gestures are loose loose, loose to the point where you almost don't give a damn about results. In school to train us they'ed give us 15, 30 secs to put as much detail as possible. Don't concentrate on making your studies perfect just do more of them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pa_2rL1K1mg

>>4312319
i'm actually enjoying copying from ref a lot. will try get my imagination numbers up

>>4312289
>>4312333
this is what a gesture drawing is

>>4312351

>>4312339

you wont enjoy things so much when you struggle to recall anything from those ref "copying" because you didn't actually "study" it.

focus study then try to recall what you learned from that study by drawing from memory. do it about 10 to 20 times, the more the better but personally 20 times is enough for me to recall some things. that way whenever you draw from imagination you won't waste time trying to find a ref.

Thoughts?
legal thoughts, thank you.

>>4312351

that not gesture dumbfuck do you even understand the meaning of the word?

>>4312355
lips are too pronounced, right arm looks smaller than the left, just shading the whole nose doesn't look right

>>4312386

>watch that Proko vid on drawing heads with Loomis method
>he says you need to draw a real circle that's the same width and height
>try to draw circles for hours
>still can't get one even close to right
I already give up

>>4312355
Every day at the gym is trap day for him,
you've got a boy haircut on a girls face on the neck and shoulders of a man and a boys body

>>4312214
good one

>>4312394
>lips are too pronounced
i like it
>right arm looks smaller than the left
oops, forgot to compare the arms
> just shading the whole nose doesn't look right
tumblr nose. wanted to make it as gay as possible.
>>4312411
I'm more used to drawing muscly dudes, so i completely forgot about those traps.

>>4312249
Not that guy,
Thank you. I've had problems with the side cut off of the sphere. This is helpful.

Can someone give their opinion/any criticism on this? I want to try and go for a bold kind of style, reminiscent to Mike Mignola's work.

Wow, this place is more toxic than /pol/ and /b/ combined. GJ on being losers.

Is anyone capable of actual criticism? Telling someone they're a beginner/trash is not criticism it's trolling. Point out the flaw AND the solution, and try to do it without being a total fucking incel.

Also, proportion is relative. Stop using perfect human anatomy as your guide to every single drawing, it's probably why YOU aren't an artist either.

>>4312024
no

>>4312486
are you this guy, anon?
>>4312109
Just wondering

>>4312491
n-no

>>4311864
>>4311885
@nicodicodingo on twitter/fb/insta

>>4312492
well if you are, just want to say you're better than 90% of us /beg/tards here...

>>4312490
ok yea my bad, been drawing too many anime girls

I think I screwed the perspective on this but I'm not entirely sure how. Would someone more experienced be willing to help me out?

Eyes

>>4311321
Hi, anons. How am I coming along?

I know I have a lot to work on, but it's always how stiff my poses look that bugs me the most. Anyone have any good suggestions for improving specifically form?

yo! today i drew shaq!

>>4312735
ref

Haven't uploaded my drawings here in a few days (I had to take a few days off).

I've realised now that my brush size is a bit big so I have scaled it down and now I'm trying to replicate the Peanuts style a bit more.

The top is drawings is from a few days ago and the bottom is today/yesterday any form of critique is welcome.

>>4311321
New to drawing, well this is my first time trying to draw "seriously". And by that I mean the first time I'm trying to use references, since the people I make come out as deformed noodle beings.

I don't have a drawing table or anything so I use SAI's line tool for my lineart.

Are there any tips I could use to improve this? Should I feel guilty about deforming, rotating, and re-purposing body references to give me the base of my people?

>>4312763
People don't sit like that.

>>4312599
Try not using a solid line under the eye ball. You've got a Racoon eye thing going.

>>4312482
don't concentrait on style in the beg stages. If you do want to be more like him study dramatic lighting and look at how he abstracts the shadows.
The characters very flat, it looks like a character from Hazben Hotel, mostly due to you only shading the outsides of the form. Kudos on actually drawing hands.

>>4312627
When you get a pose, find reference for it.
It looks like your twisting bodies to show the parts you want to show, like the girls head is in profile pointing down, but her back is camera facing arch forward. The guys arms are flat on his sides while handing something over.
Act out these positions when you sketch them in, if they physically feel awkward they'll look awkward.
for a more dramatic pose, either have a seem that requires it, ie action scene, or change the "camera" placement to an odd angle.

>>4312735
Don't draw teeth as individual objects even though they are. look at your ref's middle teeth, see how in the middle they blend together, you have to imply lines not draw solid ones.

>>4312924
ah... thank you. I really should have picked that up.

>>4312763
if you want to draw, you can't go around the noodle beings, you have to go through them.

I think the ass is supposed to be pressed against this kind of bench? Her torso would be hunch over because of the lack of back support.

Which Bridgman book is better for the figure/head?
Bridman's Complete Guide to Drawing from Life or Constructive Anatomy?

>>4312924
Usually I'd say that too but in anons pic it's not a bother at all

>>4312973
A L L O F T H E M but the most complete one is this one

>>4311369
It's coomer art, the background only have to be vaguely related to the light situation on the figure. Clarity on the naughty bits (i.e. the focal points) trumps realism.

I feel I can't push any further than this in terms of rendering because I don't understand the further complexity of forms. Is it a good time to study facial anatomy? If so, where do I even start?

Any criticism is also very accepted

Hope the subject is clear enough.
First time I play around with charcoals, I was expecting much worse.
Have I graduated from /beg/ yet?

>>4313096
nice rendering, what was your process on this? I suck ass at trying to refine details

>>4313106
why is she so smug bros

>>4313110
Because she's a smartass and it' leviOsa, not leviosAR!

>>4313107
thanks :)
I do a line art with 'landmarks' I find useful on the face then begin painting on a layer below, when I'm confident enough I merge both layers and continue from there, though I do get lost a bit after a while

really the secret for me is rendering from a distance and never zooming in the picture

>>4313028
>most complete one is this one
which one?

>>4313106
Not even being a perfect photocopier graduates you from /beg/. pyw from imagination.

>>4313162
let the mother fucker practice line and rendering you crab

>>4313171
He's the one who asked unprompted if he graduated from /beg/. Graduating is not a quick process, it takes years.
Fwiw it's a decent drawing.

Thoughts? Im worling on improving my figure drawings and construction. Will post ref.

>>4313187
ref

>>4313187
Well are you going to post the ref or not dickweed?

>>4313189
whats with the hostility and impatience, can't you wait a min? is that too hard?

>>4312938
Yeah my perspective is bit fucked. I was trying to base the bench off the ones they got round here.

But oh well I'm committed now and will just give up, like I always do, if I start ragging on it.

Thoughts? Working improving on figure snd construction, I realized its a bit stiff compared to the ref.

>>4313193
Heres ref

>>4313192
start drawing boxes and geometric objects in space and in relation to one another

trust me, there's no other way to get started on art

Any suggestions for a video course from >>4289889 to start out with?

>>4313194
Why does Proko only get ugly Jews to model for him

>tried to focus on negative space more than the easy smudge render way.
fucking impossible. Contour drawing is hundred times harder than realistic rendering.

>>4313106
double the contrast and we will talk

>tfw keep switching between books, Loomis, Hampton, Vilppu, etc.
I'm sick of it, I'll stick with this one now.

>>4311321
Stared at this too long now. Anyone could give me some feedback, would be appreciated.

>>4313327
she should get better lips

>>4313327
she couldn't have gotten better lips

>>4313288
Thank you for the feedback, I'll work on that!

>>4312249
I'm the guy, thanks.

>>4311321
any way to improve my shading? or is it good enough?

>>4313280
That's a fat ass wrist bro

>>4313327
Entirely indifferent to her lips.

Where to find reference of hands holding objects like guns, books, pens, phones, etc. ؟

>>4313443
Use a reference, 1000x use a reference
Then, stop using a thick black border around everything, only use a black border for the sketch layer.

>>4313467
slightly less deformed

I missed drawing on paper bros. I wish I had Ctrl Z and resize options here.

Legs are too small and anatomy us fucked but whatever.

>>4313600

seal the undo's on digital and you can draw just as well on paper.

>>4313600
Yeah use visual measuring and plumb lines and you don't need to worry about not having resize and Ctrl+z

I tried really hard and spent quite some time on this one, yet his dick looks weird (I wouldn't just Google "child penis", so I had to use simply "small penis" and I dont think it made the cut), the body also looks floppy and ridiculously wrong, even when I did use reference. Also not satisfied with the background, the only thing I did like about this one piece was the lighting, and even then, I didn't put the shadows or finish lighting the face. What can I do to improve?

How do I do smooth gradients in digital? I can do it with the proko pencil brush (left), but you can see on the right that whenever I try to gradually go from dark to light it has that gross overlapping look

>>4312229
you have to remember that a person is an object in 3d space. dont just copy the ref. try to understand whats going on.

>>4312469
STOP the excuses!!!! just work on your shortcomings. NO EXCUSES

>>4313096
proko unironically. also when you do studies, try to imagine (and draw) the underlying structure. think about what muscles, bones youre drawing the skin over

>>4313106
you lack in every fundamental area (value, structure, proportion etc)

>>4313327
severe case of symbol drawing. not crabbing. theres a guide about this in the sticky

>>4313681
Read on how to use Opacity and Flow correctly.

>>4312216
I polished a turd. But I do think it's better.

>>4313738

>>4313738
The tibia shouldn't be longer than the femur, pimp. By lifting the right leg from the original you made the legs look very uneven, of course theres other issues but the legs proportion are the main problem.

>>4313688
but i did

>>4313793
You need to work harder and actually fix the problems we've been pointing out because otherwise you're just n g m i

>>4313798
but i did

>>4313784
Is it not bigger because it's closer to the camera? That's not a rhetorical question. I'm started to doubt my observational skills. Ref >>4312229

robot concept

Arms are black magic to me

>>4312735
>>4312736
>>4312735
>>4312736
Honestly we should probably just have a Shaq general thread.

>>4313819
that would be so epic

>>4313819
nice work on the shaq too!

>>4313805
Nope, I think you're getting confused because she's wearing heels, you're seeing longer a tibia but it's actually longer/different position feet. If you can't see it it would be a good idea to pick up a ruler and measure the bones yourself.

>>4313836
thanks. i got excited so i morphed our shaqs together.

Done from references, looking for input on proportions, and other crit.

>>4313857
here is my shaq

attended a model drawing class

>>4313928
here is my shag fren, i did the best i could

I don't really like my stuff anymore

Am I /int/ yet?

>>4313973

hand guy from the other day, how's this? doing a bunch of hands each day

>>4313977
neat-o

My lines aren't moving or drawing where I wanted them to be; I want to draw a circular line but out comes something closer to oval, is this just a case of not drawing enough?

>>4314012
See the line in your head before you draw it.

>>4313977
It's real nice, especially how the countour lines give everything really solid shapes.

The lack of countour lining on the shirt makes it look weird tho.

Also the space in between the ring and middle finger looks too big? Wide? Just something's up there

>>4314030
the lack of shirt contours gives negative space, and the hand is perspective and very close to camera

god i hate working with larger pieces because i have to move away from my keyboard

>>4314009
>>4314030
th-thanks
>>4314038
I'm glad the perspective is noticeable

>>4314081
Maybe for the perspective to read better have the forearm angled upwards slightly more so you see it at a sharper angle

>>4314088
that's a good suggestion, thanks
also checked

How do you get over the shame of looking at references? For some reason I hate looking at them but whenever I do my art ends up way better, I think it's because I hate learning new things in art and prefer doing the same old shit. Also how do you motivate yourself to learn anatomy? It seems really boring

>>4314093
You absolutely NEED to use references for all of your work. Very very VERY few people can successfully not use reference and that's down to their mileage as artists.

>>4314154
Ty for telling me this...I didn’t know this and now I feel less bad about using them! :)

I can draw decently from the front and 3/4, even do some forshortening of the torso and and arms. But I got no clue how the back and ass work.

My main problem is that I do not know how to simplify it and then construct it, I understand where the spine is but I do not understand what the edges of the hips are doing (I do know they are tilted forward) or how to make the ribcage not look flat. Any advice?

>>4311321

>>4311321
I feel like the eyebrows are too high and the eyes slightly too big. If someone would take the line to redline, I'd appreciate it

How to fix this awkward puffy sleeve?

>>4314564
just make it less puffy

it also looks weird cause that ammo belt or whatever is cutting into the shoulder and floating

>>4311321
based redliner

>>4314558
>eyes slightly too big
Slightly you think? Did you do this out of imagination or reference? I'm not sure if you were going traditional or anime with this. Also I think it lacks construction.

>>4314558
Classic symbol drawing.
Eyeballs are not an almond-shaped 2D outline, they're spheres in a recessed socket.
Practice drawing individual facial features before you try to put them together into a portrait.

>>4314617
Oh shit I'm not Pp I forgot to take the name off from when I was trolling in the other thread

>>4314617
Hello Pp, how is your day?

>>4314614
referenced to a real person.
>it lacks construction
absolutly
>>4314617
I know that, its just hard to draw it. I should practise it on its own indeed. Thank you. I take that the standard route would be proko/Loomis?

>>4314623
L O O M I S
A common mistake I always see on this board about the people who rave about the Loomis is that they draw the exact same fucking head every time as if every human was symmetrical or had the exact same facial structure. Use the construction as a reference and not how it always should be.

>>4314642
yeah, I still need to buy Loomis' heads and hands if im being honest. I always hear that my faces are nightmare-inducing

Can anyone link a video about how to accurately draw what you see from a reference without fucking up proportions and position? Preferably someone who's not amateur or draws cartoon shit.

>>4312205
If you study the basics of perspective you'll understand that a circle is nothing but arcs described by a square and is actually easy to construct in any frame of reference

>>4313803
You're trash m8 stop acting like you're doing things purposefully for design instead of just not knowing what you're doing

>>4314564
Fix everything else before thinking about clothes like the extremely unnatural proportions and anatomy as well as the jank perspective

>>4314679
https://gumroad.com/l/accuracy

>>4314699
I'm a broke student so I can't pay for this, also don't want to be a bitch and get it for like 10$.
I'll save it though for when I have enough money to get it. Thanks!

made this lil thing earlier today, thoughts?

Practicing poses & male anatomy.
It is a pain in the ass to get things right

>>4314653
>buy
Please at least look at the sticky.

>>4314750
I dont know if you named this or not but id like to call her ngmi-chan and in the background there should /beg/ posters with no replies

>>4313327
Improvement, I hope.

Newbie to photoshop (and digital drawing in general) here. How can I improve my lights and shadows? They always look dirty and fake. Pic related

Can you critique my work?

>>4314816
numbers rapresent the steps i followed

>>4314813
stop using airbrush, thats gonna help for sure. theres a ton of tutorials on soft shading and rendering, even on pinterest. also consider changing your hues in light and shadows (picrel is an example)

>>4314816
same advice, dont use airbrush, also control your lineweight because the neck outline is thicker for no reason. watch some tutorials about cel shading im sure they gonna help you a lot

>>4314813
I like the base colour best, which I guess is not a good thing. It looks very plastic with shadows, and even more so when it's light. a bit like old CGI.

If you are going for plastic look it's alright, but looking at the character design feels it should be furry / fluffy.

>>4314808
Absolutely based although looks a little bug eyed, I also have some doubts about the hair volume looks like as if the girl had really thin hair but overall pretty clean work.

>>4314808
Her eyebrows are pretty high up. Other than that I really like it.

>>4314813
It's cute, but yeah the shading is not good at all. Try looking into cel shading?

>>4314822
Thanks, I'll look for some tutorials

>>4314826
Yes, it's supposed to have fur

>>4314822
>>4314816
>same advice, dont use airbrush, also control your lineweight because the neck outline is thicker for no reason. watch some tutorials about cel shading im

Thanks bro, but wtf is airbrush?

>>4314829
Thank you, maybe i'll try and lighten the eyes a bit so they aren't so dark.

I will work on improving the hair next.

>>4314830
Thank you. I will experiment a bit with the eyebrow position.

I don't want to draw realistic, I want to draw anime. Real life sucks.

>>4314846

>>4314838
airbrush = soft edge brush

>>4314841
Also add more volume to the (our) right side of her hair.

>>4314848
We live in a time close to the mass transferal of human consciousness to a digital medium, there's no point in looking at the ugly physical world when soon enough we will be looking at ourselves represented in the form of anime, a visual form sought after by great men for nearly 100 years now.

>>4314813
i dont know if you think this looks better but if you do heres what i did
- added core shadow and reflected light
- added blue color in reflected light
- added warm tones to highlights
- some subsurface scattering or whatever its called on the shadow edge
- didnt use airbrush, just a watercolor brush from csp

>>4314838
not that anon but airbrush is this very very soft brush that you cant make any hard edges with

>>4314849
ref?

>>4314880
>>4314824

>>4314849
kek

ehhhh more animu shit

>>4311321
Here are some pieces of my latest works, I'm starting to try to get "serious" with anatomy and failing to stop emiting an "anime" style on my art, but I find it really discouraging that I just stick with it unconsciously, also I've tried to switch to digital but I do not feel comfortable while doing the transition, any tips on this last one as well?|

>>4314771
books>pdf

>>4314683
but i did

>>4314955
I love the anime but specially the anime, if that is what you like doing then that's exactly what you should be drawing.
There's literally nothing wrong with a little realism with anime or realism and cartoons/comics but don't you ever do cartoonish anime that is the absolute bottom tier /beg/ shit.

An archangel Gabriel design. How is it?

I'm not happy with colour so probably gonna change that tommorw but I'm unsure what skin colour should be

>>4311831
There is this painter, famous, mind you. Whose name I can't remember, he used to paint these fat rich ladies laying and from behind, he has been studied quite often and the students have counted the vertebraes -or the estimation of them- and he always made more than there actually are.

Noone really noticed and if they did they didn't care. They paid him for his oil paintings and such.

So yeah, you can 'fuck up' anatomy, it's done very often.

And as anon said >>4311840
>you should never make it the most important thing in your drawings unless you're doing drawings for a medical book or something.

Thoughts on this profile?
The forehead came out smaller than intended, and the eyebrow is a bit off, but otherwise I’m proud of it
I used a reference, but it doesn’t line up with with many of the features

>>4312482
I really like this moth

would totally give a whole lamp

What are recommenced books on drawing feet? I know a bunch for hands, but none for feet.

>>4315133
i jerk off to feet

>>4314841
>>4314852
Blargh, I really have never practiced hair before. I feel like the fringe is pretty good, but I didn't really capture the rest.

What do you guys think?

>>4312081
But her art actually is really generic and boring with terrible anatomy when she gets lazy. Haven't you seen the one where she has six fingers on each hand?

>>4312101
But you can, if some beg thinks drawing really long and defined legs is stylish and good looking it usually turns out looking fucking awful. Someone who knows their fundies and the anatomy of the leg can do the same thing but with a vastly different result, because if wouldnt look like complete dog shit. Begs draw what they THINK will look good, not what will actually look good.

>>4315144
You need to be using blocks of tones, not lines, to convey hair. Look up Gurney's ribbon method.

Are there any books with simpler anatomy construction than Hampton? I just can't seem to do the shit that he does

>>4315176
Anatomy for sculptures is very simple to understand.

>>4315176
Anatomy for Sculptors.

>>4315164
Thanks, I will check it out tomorrow.

How can I improve my lines? I’m working with only pen tool and I don’t allow myself erase or undo. I’ve been doing this for a week or so but I don’t think my lines have gotten much better.

>>4313327
flip the image to see it with a fresh pair of eyes

>>4315180
>>4315183
Thanks

>>4314872

that filename...

subsurface scattering on that kind of surface. that face plane. dafuck?

>>4315336
i said i didnt know if it looked better so either post actual fix or fuck off

>>4314872
The word you're looking for is reflected light. Also, it looks better except I'd have either ignored or severely toned down the light that's on the mouth, because it's in so much shadow. Even if you'd realistically see some light bounce there, actually putting it into a painting can muddle up the forms too much, and is mostly better off left out or left as a very subtle change. And if I didn't ignore it completely, I'd have rendered it along with the forms instead of throwing a block of light down on the whole mouth area.

Otherwise I think it's more pleasing to look at with the rest of the changes.

how can I digitally render something similar to this old Disney movie background? Any tutorial or specific brushes to use? I have no clue where to start, help.

please critique

I know her arm is broken

>>4315398

SOUL

>>4315398
>>4315405
Another finished piece

I'm >>4314813

>>4314872
>>4315336
>>4315373
Thanks for all your observations, right now I'm googling what all those terms mean because honestly, I'm lost.

>>4315450
no worries buddy you can look up any values tutorial on youtube and they will explain all of these terms, marco bucci explains it well in his series if i recall correctly

>>4315454
Thanks man, I've been drawing for so long yet I'd never bothered to learn such basic things.

>>4311321
>>4311321
I was trying to draw the headphones girl from the chilled cow youtube channel but I didn't leave myself enough room so I just said fuck it and drew the room itself instead. I have to be honest, when I use a ruler it doesn't even feel like I'm drawing anymore. It feels like anyone could do this. I'm left asking myself how is this even art? So either I draw in correct perspective but it feels soulless or I try to free hand and it looks like a 5 year old made it. Being talentless sucks.

I'm practicing foreshortening, This is killing me

Why is this so fucking hard bros?

Getting the general colours down I can at least do, even if I'm pretty sure I'm making bad choices with what they should be, but putting in the actual details of veins, fur, skin folds - how the fuck do I even begin? You can see my abortive attempts over on the right arm and they look like burn scars more than anything.

>>4315620
loomis

>>4315623

Welp, when the work you're doing on a picture is making it look worse, not better, I think it's time to take a break.

Anyone got any good resources for learning how to do... whatever I'm doing?

I feel like I'm not really creating the effect that I want. I'm spamming the shit out of the blur blend tool and I don't want to be doing that - I want to be able to create gradients myself. I'm also not really sure about how to pick out details like bone ridges and stuff well.

>>4315585
do the coil method

>>4315585
My top tip for foreshortening is to use the transform tool to scale the bodyparts closer bigger until they look about the right size, and then redraw over the top if necessary.

t. cheater

How do I draw faces better?

>>4315697
https://www.ctrlpaint.com/digital-painting-101/blending-paint

how is this looking boah's
I've never done a landscape before
and I know nothing about horses

>>4315476
This doesn't look to be in correct perspective.

Hello everyone I have a question Is the midtone the same as base color or local color ???! And how should I find the midtone

a bit rough but I've been doing drawabox all day and feel like this is decent. I need to work on my lines but in terms if actual perspective how fucked am I?

>>4315758
A post for ants.

>>4315758
woah shit that is poopoo quality sorry for the huge filesize.

>>4315766
Do one using the whole sheet of paper instead on these thumbnails and upload that.

>>4315793
I stopped drawing for the day because I ran out of paper lol.
I'll grab some tomorrow and I'll draw it in the next thread if this one isnt up by then.

I;m losing my fucking mind

>>4311321
I am really struggling with digital painting. I gave up on this a while ago and have since improved in other areas but I am still completely lost in painting. What do I do?

new
>>4316059

>>4315766
would you get a pencil and a ruler... christ this is messy

>>4315733
/int/

>>4315734
Where

i'm new here.
should i use the sticky if i want to get started, or is the sticky outdated.
what other resources should i look for?

>>4315144

Hey guys, I just drew this and am looking for feedback. Particularly on proportions. Also I'd really appreciate some help with the hand, it doesn't feel right but I don't know how to fix it.