/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Just be a neet lmao unless you're a pleb neurotypical

>>4306932
>#VisibleWomen
...but most artists are women.
The hashtag is for looking female artists in a field dominated by females...

I get the impression that anyone driven and smart enough to become successful in one advanced career has what it takes to excel at anything they put their mind to. Im not really successful in art or my career and i think the two are closely tied

>>4306932
>high art skill
>Neuro scientist
>can understands 3 languages
I dont know what kind of privilege these chink are getting from but nothing makes me more depressed is that someone else can be financially stable and enjoy drawing.
I dont care about anything else, I just want to be financially stable while still making art without a worry in my mind. Life is all about money and I hate it soo much

>>4306946
Shut up faggot lol

>>4306932
I worked a normal schedule that was horrible you cant do shit.
>2 hours spent going to and from work
>8 working
>1 lunch break if you have one
That already leaves you 13 hours.
Sleeping less than 6 hours on a regular basis will make you see and hear things so 7 hours of free time.

If you're going to do anything else at all like eating, showering, cleaning, smoking that cuts your entire free time to say 5 hours.

I was blessed to get a job in shifts.
>Haul airbus wheels and brakes for 24 hours
>Free for the next 72 hours

That's an absolutely blesses job, half of my colleagues run a small business with such free time.

>>4306946
It is good that people like you are suffering, you deserve it.

I just split my time so I will neither become an artist nor a researcher. I hope I can work in retail one day, might be too retarded for that too though.

>>4306932
>Any STEM here, do you think you'll make it while working full time?
I worked in tech for 10yrs, now I’m retired and draw whenever/whatever I want

I don’t need to make it anymore

>>4306932
I feel like as long as you aren't a brainlet and are making lots of money it doesn't really matter if you make it or not while working a full time STEM job.

>>4307013
What exactly do you draw now that you have acquired so much free time?

>>4306932
What is your idea of making it? I'm not trying to live some sort of double life where I'm actually a super famous artist by night. I just want to be good for me.

>>4306946
>he cowers before greatness
Typical beta reaction to übermensch.

I'd love to earn money through art though right now I make sure my life doesn't depend on it. I work as a webdev slave and I can get by financially but not enough to live comfortably.
Drawing is a nice way to get off of the computer and clear the head and recently I started taking it more serious as I got some interest from other people.
Just yesterday I was at a 2 life figure drawing sessions and drew figures for 6 hours in total just to get the experience under my belt and honestly it feels good to work so hard on it even if it doesn't bring me any financial gain. It gives my life a bit of purpose and a goal.
My goal for this year is to see if I can make a dollar off of it but I'm still figuring out which subjects and target audience I'm going to aim for. I know some people personally who might be interested to buy something.
Just need the confidence to push through and not give up.

>>4306932
I was working in a lab full time but barely had time to do art so I saved up and quit. Gonna work/study part time so I can work on art because life is short and I want to do what I enjoy.

>>4306932
>neuroscience
Please don't put this soft sub-field of biology in the same basket at us, superior hard science STEMchads engineers and physics majors.

>>4307002
>>4307029
/ic/ in a nutshell

Why you guys love capitalism so much?? Lol

>>4307055
Surviving as an artist would be hard under any other system as well unless you were one of the best in your country and already showed that potential as a small child.

>>4306932
There is no such thing. As a college student I will actively sabotage my grades to draw. I expect to die homeless or at best impoverished since I’m not fast enough to keep up with the best of the best industry artists. I’m completely fine with this, I just need a way to preserve my art somehow. Until then though I’ll just keep drawing

>>4307055
>>4307057
What a lot of famous artists in history have in common is that they often come from a well off background. And even if they wasn't that well off, one of their parents already came from an artistic background so their family would be more willing to support their artistic pursuits.

>>4307039
Are biology and/or chemistry true STEM fields? Not memeing, serious question.

>>4307074
Yes, they are STEM disciplines just as much as Physics and Engineering no matter what some random autist on 4chan says.

>>4307058

>>4307075
Cool. I've just heard the soft science arguement aimed at psychology before (which I kind of agree with), but never neuroscience. I can maybe see why, since it tries linking objective neural activity with subjective behaviors (similar to psychology). Biology and chemistry seem more objective to me.

>>4307057
Sure, but you'd have a safety net through which you could realistically live your life on an entry level position, have free time and dedicate your mind to art without fear of falling into homelessness.
I don't know where you live but on most big cities where i live it is hard to earn a wage that affords you your own place and lets u with enough time to practice.

>>4306946
absolutely pathetic weakness, sort yourself out fool

>>4307066
This, or they had the right connections that the parents could dump their kid to train with an already established artist, since the education system like it is now didn't always exist it could happen that a young child be educated in art full time by helping out in an atelier. Something that doesn't really happen nowadays.

>>4306932
I'm a former STEM and work in consultancy which requires me to travel evry week.

I've built a habbit of drawing every night. My gains aren't as good as i want being self taught. I dion't have any guidence besides looking up things i want to improve on.

The doctor just picked up drawing because she's so bored off her head getting 100 patients mondays to fridays. I think they get more free time every time they get promoted or they are really competent at their fields.

>>4307098
Most STEM related jobs provide workers with amples amount of free time.
It's not like working at Starbucks where you're essentially required to work 100hrs a week or else you get fired.

>>4306932
T A L E N T
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>>4306932
stem here, working as a full time ITfag. You'll find time to draw if you're really passionate about it. I cant guarantee drawing on weekdays but I make sure I alot a few hours of drawing time on weekends

>>4307088
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>>4307098
>>4307102
If you guys look at her deviantart gallery you can see that she's probably been drawing for at least 15 years or more. Pic related is from 2009 and it's still better than at least 99% of /ic/.

What I notice with a lot of stem students or people with stem careers who happen to be good artists is that they made a lot of their gains when they was still in high school. Most high school students have more free time and less responsibilities compared to when they become working adults.

>>4307118
>2009
>both her and I were in HS at the time
>still can't draw anything even remotely like that
hahahah are you fucking kidding me??? This girl could draw like this as a fucking HS student?

hahahah Ok, this has convinced me to finally give up art for good hahahaha

Im so done with this shit. Not going to bother wasting my fucking time with this bullshit any more.

>>4307055
I don't love capitalism but any system where people like you can survive is a shit system

>>4306932
lmao
just proves once and for all that talent is real

>>4307121
I have no idea what age she is. I guess though she might have been high school to college age. I tried to see if her blog might have had any information about her age but too much shit to shift through

But luckily I did find this great faq page where she answers the most common questions like what brushes she uses, how to use references, etc. In chinese but understandable with google translate

http://janemere.blog126.fc2blog.us/blog-category-7.html

Now if you want an artist that got good in high school that makes you want to kill yourself because of how much of a failure you are, look at pic related. One of my favorite artists.

https://twitter.com/pix_bun/status/1148716853537017856

>>4307121
>hahahah Ok, this has convinced me to finally give up art for good hahahaha
Wait, do you not enjoy art at all?

>>4307143
Idc anymore dude.

I'll never be a good artist or a researcher or anything important in life and seeing these people just effortlessly break through every glass ceiling just makes me want to violently murder them.
>>4307146
Nope.
Not anymore. It's not fun to do and I even like drawing anymore tbqhfam

>>4307130
Deflection

>>4307121
>>4307149
Shut up faggot lol

>>4307149
>just effortlessly break through every glass ceiling
>effortlessly

You don't know that. If anything, you have the wrong idea of how much effort is required and you think you put in the same (or more) effort than these people while it probably isn't the case.
Just keep drawing and keep looking for opportunities to improve your situation.

>>4307153
Face it nigger you don't have a job and suck at art because you are a shit human being with shit genes and born wrong.

The fact you are pathetic and miserable isn't because everybody else around you is bad but because you alone are bad. While the happy and successful people are happy because they are good.

I could easily tell by the fact other people's well being makes you feel bad, that's a suppressed internal knowledge of inferiority that hurts you.

>>4307160
ok retard

>>4307158
I'll kill you

>>4307149
>just makes me want to violently murder them.

You know what?
I got a Masters on Aerospace Engineering on a merit based scholarship for free just because im smart like that.

And It was relatively effortless, passed exams like veni vidi vici, i wasn't frantically studying the night before that.

And I'm from a rather poor family, my only privilege is genetic.
You should rather violently kill yourself it's not my fault I'm born better than you.
Well I'm probably whiter.

>>4307167
What's your address?
Dead serious.
We'll see how smart you are when I shove a pack of pencils into your skull.

>>4307170
He's too smart for a brainlet like you to kill.
He's probably more muscular and has faster reflexes since he's geneticaly gifted, is more imaginative and can adapt faster to new situations.

>>4307170
Based and redpilled, this is the truth of this world
You could be the lowest scum on earth and still destroy the life of talented and hard working people just like that if you're willing to go through. What's stopping some seething NGMI from stabbing kim jung gi in the back at his next open panel? nothing.

this world is so unfair, scary

>>4307177
Fucking pussy.
Complete pussy.
Won't even post his address.

>>4307149
Maybe you just suck

>>4307161
First off, not >>4306946

Actually, your argument falls apart because of this, because it’s entirely based off of a persona you’ve constructed of a person based off of >>4306946, who brings up legitimate critique of capitalism and the ambience it established in the minds of Americans especially artists. You’d probably know, but either you rationalize capitalism or you really have never struggled with anything, ever

>the happy and successful people are happy because they are good.
hahahah, holy fuck you are a riot. Dumb fucking chink. Go fall in an escalator, yeah?

>>4307210
>who brings up legitimate critique of capitalism

Excuse me?
He's just whining about being a jealous loser faggot.

How is somebody being talented and successful a critique of capitalism?
You should be glad that at least somebody is doing great.

Well i know that the jealous losers would rather drag the great people to GULAGs together to be relieved "finally nobody is doing better than i do".

Which is why I think capitalism isn't hardcore enough. All these softie sadety nets for the losers just prolong their misery.
We need the kind of capitalism where the faggots like that die in a ditch, rather than lingering about.

>>4306942
shut the fucking up incel scumfuck

>>4307121
>>4307149
then stfu already and quit already jesus fucking christ noone wants to throw a pity party for you

>>4307243
>responding to a post like 3 hrs old
cringe

>>4307121
just get off the internet and enjoy life retard

>>4306932
well if i can stop browsing this shithole and start reading books and start drawing then yeah i can manage, but i only plan it to be a hobby nothing more nothing less

>>4306932
Software engineer here, on my 30s working full time. Have been drawing for a year give or take but my art is still bad. When I get home I have a meal, take a 2 hour nap, wake up and draw until wee hours in the morning then I sleep for 4 hours and go back to work.

>>4307190
I'll post my adress if you post your work, i want to see what lackluster shit is tormenting your existence so much lmao

>>4307245
seethe have sex and dilate discord tranny /pol/tard

>>4307058
BASADO

>>4306932
Why a college educated adult working a skilled academic job would paint such obnoxious childish bullshit?
Art is flatline dead, I suppose.

All you whiny, jealous shitbags need a beating

>>4307143
ipod commercials really evolved

>>4307328
Because they haven't had the life sucked out of them like you.

>>4306942
most neuroscientists aren't though you fucking tard

>>4307055
>implying the other option is good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX9FgvXZXZ8
pic related is their budget btw. face it commies are all retards who tend to do more harm than the "good" the preach just look at the Jonestown Massacre; some faggot managed to convince 900 people in his small town to commit sudoku via cyanide because he's a loony (ironically the faggot shot himself rather than drink the kool-aid because he pussied out after seeing people die slow painful deaths from it). oh and he killed the kids first and recorded their cries via radio.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5KllZIh2Vo

fuck retards and fuck commies

>>4307551
based schizo

If you cut out watching movies/tv shows and playing vidya, you 'll have plenty of time
I took a break after college and now I'm focusing on grindinga, so that I can do mostly finished shit once i'm back in grad school

>>4306932
I draw at work all the time. Must of the day I'm on the phone not listening to the customer. I put them on hold constantly and draw Loomis mannequins. Great for you if you have a way that doesn't involve a full time job but I didn't have that option. It doesn't matter though. I draw more now than I did when I was unemployed.

>>4306946
Usually they just had very strict/wealthy parents who paid for their tuition in multiple useful skills. It's possible to learn a new skill as an adult, but if you are an unskilled fuck at 20, you're never going to master multiple languages + art + feild of work.

Just face it that some people were fortunate enough to have high level tuition and discipline at a young age (her) and some people were young enough to have a fun and free childhood of drawing dinosaurs, playing vidya and watching cartoons (us). The trade off is that we will struggle more in adulthood.

>>4307238
lol
Why do you feel threatened?
All I did was point out a contradiction.

>>4307496
But the hashtag is for artists, not neuroscientists you dummy.

lol no need to feel threatened.

>>4307055
they think they are the boot and not the ant

>>4306932
I'm a licensed multidisciplinary engineer, not really trying to make it as in have art be my career, but I think I still make some decent art gains doing focused studying as often as I can (maybe 20 hours a week?). One of my college professors (thermodynamics) was a pretty well established erotic artist.

>>4307210
>who brings up legitimate critique of capitalism
All "critique" of capitalism is just retards bitching about not being as rich as some wealthy fuck.
Granted, it's not a perfect system, but it's the only one that works (unlike communism, which doesn't work at all).

CREATIVITY

IS

LACKING

I work 4 on 4 off, 12 hour days, two days then two nights.

It's tough, but my work has a bit if downtime so I doodle whenever I can in my notebook and hit up youtube or twitch streams and tutorials while on company time.

Then when I'm at home I pop on my tablet and do real practice.

Its rough some weeks, my job can be physically demanding and high adrenaline so I'm not always in the mood to sketch but I guess it beats working a 9-5 and being emotionally drained all the time.

>>4307685
Nice blogposting, faggot.

>>4307693
He answered the question are you retarded?

i'm fucked

>>4306932
No, cause my hobby is also my career. Haa

>>4307693
Gomen gomen, please forgive me I'll never post again
>>4307699
I'm surprised I didnt get yelled at for reddit spacing

>>4307055
Because capitalism is what makes art thrive as business. You have to make a painting someone actually wants to buy to make money, how tf do you make a profit in any other system? Sure there’s the intrinsic love of just making stuff but..
>yfw when you receive your government mandated and regulated abstract moose shit on canvas

>>4307699
>>4307723
It's still blogposting, and blogposting is cancer, faggot.

>>4306932
it's over

>>4307685
>I work 4 on 4 off, 12 hour days
For me, this is the ideal schedule for both productivity at work and at home when I'm trying to draw. When I went from something similar to this to 8 hours 5 days a week I pretty much completely dropped drawing for a few months before I figured out good time management.

>>4307019
Turns out I only feel like drawing robots and girls.

I save money by drawing pictures as gifts now

>>4307608
jesus reading this post reminded me just how fucking good my childhood was
thanks

>>4306946
>can understand 3 languages
>anything impressive about that
kek

I'm STEM with a 40 hour week job doing CAD.
I dont really think I'll make it in the art world, but that's okay because I just like drawing.

>>4307804
>capitalism makes art thrive
lol no, by definition capitalism only cares about maximum divident for the least ammount of resources or effort possible, that's the reason the calarts style is so prominent right now, why you get low quality materials in your processed food, the reason abstract art is in galleries, the reason holliwood would rather make 40 remakes instead of venturing to do something good, in fact, there are studies that imply the hunt for money actually hinders the creativity and enjoyment of any given task used to get it.

>>4306946
You know what to do if you want to balance it out.

>>4307608
Hands off, undisciplined parents are the worst thing you can do to a child right after being outright abusive/negligent.
'Oh he likes video games. Good, as long as I buy him a new one every now and again he'll leave me alone and do that every day from the moment he wakes up to the moment he goes to sleep for the next decade of his life developing no skills or interests along the way.'

>>4308073
let me guess you understand 3 languages of neighbouring countries that share a common language family.

>>4308196
Nop
Polish, English, French. 3 languages is pretty standard, unless you're an Amerifag that is...

>>4308236
It's not standard at all, 2 is standard. Tons of people dabled in some language for a bit and then say they speak 3 languages, but almost nobody actually does.

>>4308192
I don't even want to imagine how good I could be now, if I actually had parents which gave me a good education. My mother basically never taught me anything.

>>4306932

Some weeks I work upwards of 80 hours and still find time to practice. I don't dick around with games, TV or booze though. On night shifts I just bring my iPad and work ~8 hours straight

>>4308121
Then please explain you can walk into an art supply store, buy whatever quality paint or medium you use and can make a piece of art with it. By no means am I saying art is only made for money but blaming a system that makes materials easier to come by to ultimately make more work is dense. It’s not capitalism that decides what art is popular. It’s marketing that makes people susceptible to buying baseless pieces by stupid fucks who can network well.
And if that’s too hard understand than use this analogy;
>You think Michelangelo made all the famous art in chapels and cathedrals because it was intrinsic? Or do you think a motherfucker had to eat and bills to pay?
Go back to class in your biased university to earn your art opinion paper that mom and dad paid for.

>>4306946
A underground Indonesian peasant can enjoy drawing in a daily basis how can't you

>>4306932
Does anybody remember the last year when there was a bunch of these hashtag for artists from different walks of life? I remember looking at the average quality when the major artists had their own and found it completely lackluster when compared to the average non-major artist during the STEM artist hashtag. I always found interesting, that.

>>4308359
STEM graduates are high iq while artistic types are bottom of the barrel edgelords who manage to be humorless at the same time lmao. Useless potheads that are only taught how to justify their shit work

>>4308236
>Not knowing Chinese, the most business wanted language
cringe

>>4308417
Despite the alphabet and tonality of it, Chinese and English are basically the same language. They've already got a head start. Though knowing Chinese brings the worst drawback imaginable: Having to deal with Chinese.

>>4308460
Tbh for english speakers Chinese is pretty straightforward once you get past the hurdles that are characters and tones. SVO sentence strictures, no genders, or conjugations, it's really not that bad once you get into it.

>>4307804
It's the
>Consumer argument
By this logic art should be anime and porn, because those are the "art" that actually makes money. Many artists that don't want to fall into the degeneracy will be demoralized and forced to give up
>"What is the point in creating something that will not be seen or outright ignored because it isn't [insert current popular consumer product here]?"
Capitalism allows you to capitalize on what you can offer, but the system has been twisted and molded into a living hell by psychopaths and those who enabled them because money.
Everything is marketing, nothing is genuine.
Look at /ic/ and how much expression most works have here:
>Basically none
It's all bland crap that is supposed to be consumed in an instance only to jump off to the next one.
Many discussion on this board are
>How to social media
>how to do current trend
>how to earn money
>crabbing
>porn
What we have isn't even Capitalism anymore.
It's the final form of it.
An abomination so great nobody even wants to fathom what it would be like to do art for its own sake.
If you want money so desperately, get a regular job.
And yes, Art can thrive as a business, but only as that and if you're willing to sell your soul and humanity.
Enjoy your fried McAnime, lardass

>>4308349
I'm not against capitalism as a whole, but you are confusing an economic system with the simple concept of of availability, just because you inject money mindlessly into an idea it won't be a guaranty of quality or creatibity, returning to your example, do you think michael angelo became good because of money, or was the money that came to michael angelo because he was good enough to attract the attention of the pope.

>>4306932
>pick complicated degree
>brag about it for the next 40 years

why do people do this

>>4308543
>mentions fact about herself on her profile
>brag
This is more of a personal interpretation don't you think?

>>4307257
I hate everything.
Including dumbfucks like you

>>4307829
Just skip past it you fucking neanderthal

>>4306932
>Any STEM here, do you think you'll make it while working full time?
You said that we are talking about hobby here, what is the criteria of "making it"?
I, personally, enjoy getting good with each passing month (because I'm completely new to this), and I'm pretty happy with this arrangement.

>>4307102
You must be 18 to post

>>4307170
>violent good for nothing

>>4308349
>marketing
That's what capitalism does, creating social trends and commodifying them to profit from it. Who do you think is doing the marketing? The capitalists.

>>4308359
Survivorship bias
stemfags are smart enough to realize if they suck at something, the ones who are good at art flaunt it and the ones who aren't either don't post or give up and focus on what they're good at- STEM
meanwhile many more artists/art majors posts on twitter so you're gonna see a lot of garbage

>>4306946
God you guys are fucking insufferable, art is a hobby for some of us, not everyone is trying to make it. Isn’t ur fault we have actual careers to tend too

>>4306932
>Cognitive neuroscience researcher?
More like sleep study employee. lol

>>4307170
lmao. are you mad?

>>4308805
exactly. her entire post is braggadocios. she's probably not very attractive. masculine accolades won't make you any prettier.

>>4306932
of course she's japanese lol

>>4306932
Recently "retired" engineer here; I lived at with my folks and saved every penny for a few years.

I went to an arts high school, did drugs and bummed around for a few years in my 20s, self-taught myself math thru diffy qs, got an EE degree/internship/job, and just quit.

I got gud while I was in school now I'm starting to show and sell oil paintings. I intend to get a part time job, barista or something, so that I can smooth out the income variation and get some social face time. While I was working EE I got at least 30 minutes a day in, before work, of gesture drawing.

There are sacrifices and weeks of suicidal ideation.

Do not mistake simple for easy.

>>4307013
>>4307020
>>4307033
>>4307257
>>4307962
>>4306945
>>4308766
These are fine ideas. Also all this capitalist bullshit is lol af. I know a lot of bad, but productive, artists in more socialist countries that are chill af. I know a lot of quality artists, that are productive, in the US that freak out about bills ALL OF THE TIME.

>>4308930
so when you say retirement do you mean you worked as an engineer for +30 years and then you got your pension or what? are you happy about the things you did? would you do these things the same way if given the oportunity to start over?

>>4306946
>tfw come into thread
>actually kind of angry at all the information in here
Yeah, fuck talent.

>>4306942
>>4307238
>>4307496
reminder that being female is like having every stat in an RPG maxxed out except INT which is permanently at zero. females in the 21st century are more privileged than anyone else has ever been, even kings.

>>4308982
go back to >>>rk9 you incel

>>4308983
not incel, prostitution is legal here.

>>4308984
I don't care about your time as the town bicycle femboy

>>4308985
foid cope.

>>4308986
dilate

>getting bootyblasted whenever a female artist is better and more successful than you
Cope

>>4308989
there's no point getting mad about it because, even if they get technically skilled, they almost never (99.99%) capitalize and exploit their ability to make an amount of money proportionate to their talent. just look at the list of highest paid artists in the world to see what i mean. it's probably because capitalism is inherently masculine and if you aren't entrepreneurial and dominant you will get crushed.
"the world's most artistically talented woman is no more of a threat to me than the most artistically talented termite..."

>>4308992
I don't think female artists are going to be a threat to you if you aren't good enough to be a pro artist at all, anon.

>>4307058
I guess this is just our path. We should be Van Goghs.
>implying anyone cares about a no name cute anime girl artist

>>4308996
no need to get so personal darling

>>4309006
>No rebuttal
lol

>>4306932
Ye-yeah she draws really good b-but...is it interesting? I mean her artstyle is some random anime chara on top of classicalish painting clothes. I dont feel like it's saying anything, it does not express

>>4309029
Stop stuttering faggot.

>>4306932
CompSci student, Study and Lectures from 9:00-17:00
Exercise before 9
Drawing 21:00 - 0:00
Entertainment and Motivation: Music

>>4309037
Yes sir

>>4308992
While you were typing this Sakimichan was making 600k.

>>4306932
You don't. Who NEET here?

>>4308196
Nah I only speak 2, though you can bring it up to 3 by monolingual Anglo standards.

Any Yuroistan country where people speak 2 languages other than English will have a large portion of people speaking 3 languages, and if there's any immigration it's quite common to speak 4 or 5. Basically you have people learning one or two foreign languages at home, both local languages and English, plus some that learn another language or two for other reasons.

>>4308982
>implying females have STR

lmao

>>4308196
>trying to look superior while not being able to speak more than 3 languages
The absolute state of anglotards and amerifags

>>4309277
>the one exception that proves the rule
no female artist making hundreds of millions.

>>4307710
BASED

>>4306932
Why do women love getting these kind of random jobs?
I'm over here deciding whether to join the Marines or work for McDonalds and these females are so privileged that they can pursue a random ass field like this.
>wOmEn R oPrEsT

>>4306932
Software engineer and average drawing skills. I often doodle at work, helps the problem solving. Drawing is just my hobby, helps me unwind after too much logic and too many meetings.

expression/soulfags are retarded.

>>4310046
She got her neuroscience job because she’s a woman?

>>4310046
if you didn't study don't whine you fucking retard

> OP asks about how do you find/manage time to juggle art and work
> people argue about everything but what OP asked
guy what the fuck

>>4310203
guys*
fuck i cant type

>>4310154
Privaleged

>>4308805
hah based

>>4310203
>>4310206
Retard

>>4310154
thread
>>4310207
cope more ngmi crab

>>4307121
AUTOFILTERED

>>4307261
You can! What is that mental barrier the majority here always carry?!
>I'm stuck on 4chain
>I'll never get good
>I'll never find a gf
Guess what, if you really think that, you're correct. You won't.

>>4308930
fuck being an artist in the states lol, we've all seen your healthcare costs

>>4308817
You sound like a woman holy shit.

>>4307710
Shut up, Mag.gif

>>4307829
Have you ever considered that perhaps, YOU are cancer?

>>4310124
Same. When I'm programming my brain is working at 110% capacity. It's like I'm lifting weights. But when I'm drawing, I can cut back to like 20-30% brain usage.

>>4307551
>the only other option is communism
Reminder that the National Socialist economy was a miracle and that was before any spoils of war.

>>4311260
Have fun convincing normal people that it's better to segregate everyone into nations of single races.

>>4311282
You mean how everyone on earth used to think a hundred years back?

>>4311329
Yeah but the modern person has a hard time understanding how a simple, yet controversial, solution could fix such a simple, yet convoluted, problem. There's lots of misunderstandings and misconceptions along the way.

>>4306932
Programming student here. Yup definitely. No point in life if I won't do it.

Well, it's not like I'm seeking money for my art anyway. More like I just want to draw comics with it, and let people enjoy them.

>>4306946
scientists usually have to work temporary jobs. And well if they can't find a contract, they're unemployed.
It makes sense to pick up a freelance hobby as a second leg to stand on

>>4311260
It really wasn't and they were headed toward bankruptcy fast. The only way out was plundering their first invaded territories. And even with that they barely maintained their economy. Also the whole country was doing 60h work week.

But hey let's not expect channers to have any understanding of history. Better praise those nazis amiright ?

>>4306932
by not having a career

neet for life

>>4306932
I negotiated a part time position after working full time and building trust with my employer. Still get benefits too. If you're willing to give up some money for passion (provided its enough to pay the bills and save a little) then go for it. Learn to ignore the rat race and advertising. I live in an apartment complex full of people who make 1/2 - 1/3 than I do.
This board would be kinda of nice if I could mute IPs.

>>4306932
Not STEM but in the financial sector with a 9-to-5 with 45 minutes travel each way. It can be done, you just have to get use to managing your time nearly flawlessly. If you're not good at it, then you may have to sacrifice social life, etc.

I haven't made it yet, but I'm getting there. I have a decent following in a niche subject (not nsfw). Would love to make art my full time but it's unlikely unless I can sell out and make those big Sakimichan-bucks

>>4313111
Yes, the victors of war always immediately cease their previous production of war propaganda and write the most accurate histories of their enemies

>>4313926
>write the most accurate histories of their enemies
This.
Gonna bet in another timeline out there where Axis Powers won, the Holocaust would be magically blamed to either Russians or Americans, for random reasons.

>>4306946
I'm a neuroscientist and get paid fuck all. Don't worry about it.

My career is art related but it's shallow commercial bullshit and having to draw fucking hibiscus because some braindead forecasting moron decided that tropical prints are going to be hot this year really gets old