/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Why is the Reilly head so hard?
;_;

>>4301618
just use a ball with a cross on it

>>4301630
have any resources for studying this? or is in the basic mega link?

>>4301632
Drawing the head and hands by Andrew Loomis

What are some good perspective exercises? Something that gets me good at making floors, ceilings, and walls, and objects in relation to those.

what are some good perspective exercises for drawing the figure? I don't want to end up like peter han

>>4301618
>>4301619
>>4301632
>>4301661
>>4301736
>>4301798
>>4301615
ngmi

i'll start posting here from now on...
i'm trying to get better at sighting. right now i'm trying my hand at.. "blocking in"?
I'm not exactly sure about what I'm doing but I'll share what I have in a bit...

>>4301800
thanks pal.

Just made this, thoughts?

>>4301843
it's shit

>>4301846
Yeah, you're right.

>>4301843
hi sam, why aren't you on /pol/ today?

>>4301843
You completely ruined my visual library.

>>4301870
I'm not Sam

Sup friends, first time I've posted, because I've not really been confident enough to post at all. I whipped this one up to try and work on colors, but I really hate my lines. They're chicken scratchy, but even when I draw longer lines, they just look kinda soulless. No matter how hard I try to copy a style, it just goes back to this. Any books I might read on linework? I understand I need to do my fundies a lot more too, but I only started drawing about 4 months ago, and am only getting serious about it now.

Any tips would be greatly appreciated, though!

How do I have fun drawing?

>>4299555

Not him but what's even the point of these simplifications if you are already supposed to know the form of the head to apply it?
It seems to me that to actually learn how to draw heads (and everything else) you have to simply memorize how to draw heads from every angle which later will combine into a 3D understanding of the form on its own.

How to shading value control?

How do I become better at sighting and drawing difficult angles, like a large circle shaped object?

Nevermind the other details, I know what to practice there.

Made a visual for an explanation

How do I become better at sighting and drawing difficult angles, like a large circle shaped object?

Nevermind the other details, I know what to practice there.

Made a visual for an explanation.

any thoughts?

>>4301928
draw now think later

How long does it take for a sweaty keyboard to dry?

Pls crit me bros

>>4302021
I think you have the same problem I have at the moment - overreliance on contour

>>4302021
it looks traced

>>4302195
It's not. Spent a lot of time on that one tho

>>4302175
Work on the midsection, the butt, the face, the limbs, and the hair. The shading also looks odd.

>>4302112

how much are you sweating that you need to ask this?

Could you guys recommend any essential guides or videos for gesture drawing? or just any advice for it? I still have no fucking idea how to do it, I just keep drawing the contours and can't get the motion of poses.

Pose from imagination still stiff, but i feel like i improved a lot on thinking before i put anything, trying to bring myself to do more stuff from imagination using krenz simplified forms since i lack anatomy knowledge, and life drawing helped so much especially vilppu manual

>>4302134
finlay

>>4302254

>>4302021
How did you render her shoulder there?

>>4302326
thank you

Yeah,I think it's time to move on now.

>>4302357
ref

Would like some critique on my gesture drawings, im working on improving my linework, placement and confidence, I think I need to exaggerate them more.

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>>4302451
ref

>>4302441
ref

im going to share three dibujos i did last couple of months, i try to draw everyday but sometimes i really lack the creativity and inspo... nonetheless what should i look for to improve

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>>4302464

What are the fundamentals?

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>>4302465
Looks really good anon

>>4302472
Fuck You!

>>4302488
No fuck you /beg/ head.

>>4302500
Whats the purpose of these?

>>4302505
Getting used to using a drawing tablet, and having fun.

>>4301618
Stop using Reilly. It’s literally symbol drawing. Learn from literally any other artist that teaches the head as a 3D form and not a bunch of lines and crap.

>>4302337
I rendered everything with round smooth brush and round hard eraser

>>4301736
Drawing floors, ceilings, and walls. Start by drawing the room you're in, from different perspectives.

Obvious critique aside, this is a quite pleasant piece to look at.

When drawing from life should I just be trying to see the lines for what they are, like in the Picasso exercise, or should I be trying to break things down into simple shapes and use construction? or both?

Why exactly is this picture not allowed on a public forum and can someone help me get it sfw? I have several similar ones

How can I paint better?

Would like some critique on my gesture drawings, im working on improving my linework, placement and confidence, I think I need to exaggerate them more.

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>>4301615
How do you guys stop procrastinating and start drawing?

I've wasted so much time over my break when I promised myself that I would finally make art gains but now I'm down to my final week and haven't drawn shit.

Trying to draw cubes from a bottom perspective, keeps looking like a base and 2 walls unless I use extreme foreshortening, what gives

>>4302678
Yeah just exaggerate them more and try to work on your anatomy. Other than that you’re doing well

>>4302685
Just use the 5 minute rule. Try it for 5 minutes and see if you want to continue, which you likely will

>>4302713

search an image of a cube and compare to yours.

>>4302755
did that but still can't really tell the difference

>>4302021
Her arms and shoulders are two sizes too large.
Get the larger masses of muscles right first before trying to draw a bunch of details. Drawing muscles with lines tend to overstate them, which is okay during the sketching phase for not during rendering.
If you insist on keeping linework in a full value range piece, it will look better if you redraw the lines at the end.

>>4302633

draw better

Can someone redline the arms and hands? I simply draw them... They look weird no matter what I do..

>>4302784

looks painful. she's supporting her weight on her left hand fingers.

>>4302787
can't draw the hands or the arms, help..

How the fuck do I draw ellipses. I've been doing this almost 2 years now and I still can't put down a circle. I can do other shapes in perspective fine but ellipses are seemingly impossible.
I thought if I just keep trying eventually it'd click but it hasn't and I'm clearly missing something but I don't know what. Everything people say to figure them out with doesn't actually give me any understanding of how to draw them. I can see that I'm doing them wrong and check to see that it's wrong but none of these help me with this. I can still produce work that looks "ok" but it takes in insane amount of time compared to what I should be able to do because I have to sit around working on shit over and over and anything with complex perspective that isn't just fucking cubes is seemingly impossible for me.

Please tell me one of you has the solution I'm missing this is legitimately bothering me and I don't understand how to fix this.

>>4301615
I don't draw much, I just like to doodle

>>4302842
Well good news, using cubes and squares you can draw basically any shape in perspective. Like in pic related, which I took from Scott Robertson's how to draw book.

>>4302842
pyw buddy

>>4302839

How the fuck do you get a story idea to draw a webcomic. I can't think of anything to write a whole comic about

>>4302881

Feedback please.

>>4302357
I like the way you drew clothes and folds, but it seems you get a bit lost with stomach and pubes. A sudden drop and loss of flow under the belly made it look a bit mutilated.
Here I tried to fix it. That's my two cents.

>>4301923
How are you not confident in posting on an anonymous website, you faggot? How sheltered do you have to be to be scared of posting a png picture on a forum?

>>4302936
not confident and very sheltered prolly, what answer are you expecting bc i dont understand (im not op btw)

>>4302466
The truth is that no one will tell you because no one really knows, but to keep up the facade of superiority everyone will pretend to know what it is. Loomis has no clothes.

>>4302938
I am aware. I just want to discourage that "long time lurker hehe.. please go easy on me I'm very shy :3" type of behavior. Just fucking post your work and say where you need critique.

>>4302942
Am OP by the way, I didn't ask for people to go easy on me, or allude to being shy or anything like that, and I asked for critique in areas that I thought I needed help in. Sorry if I came across like that, I just don't really talk to people that much. That said, any critique to offer?

I made this for /bant/ after not drawing for 4 months
thoughts?

First shot at stippling. Happy with the attempt. I really only started drawing a couple weeks ago. Loads better than anything else I've attempted so far.

This is not mine but how is it as a reference image?

>>4302966
Anything that looks like how you want to draw is a good reference for getting you to drawing like that.

If it doesn't look like what you want to produce then it's not good.

>>4302970
What I'm asking is how is the anatomy/perspective?

>>4302971
Stylized and extreme.

Look at the drawing, if it looks good to you and you want to emulate it then it's a good drawing to reference for you.

If you are looking to reference because you want to hit a pro level than reference pro level artists instead.

What do you draw to practice?

>>4302976
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cK9q7oeFRE58MVaSgUql662iGqCXC8Ah

hands i did today, some look worse than others because i get pulled away from drawing every so often having to do other stuff that i lose momentum a bit

>>4301923
i usually go watch speedpaints rather than books, find someone near trhe style you want
watching them creating helps a lot

First time trying Sculpy clay. I think I have some aptitude.

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>>4303010

please god help, whenever I try to draw from life or do exercises in books they turn out like this.I don't know what I'm doing.

>>4302919
Yeah that looks better, i think i see colors and tones where there aren't for some reason. It's also hard for me to soften the edges without making it muddy for some reason.

>>4303027
Is this from reference or imagination?

>>4303094
Reference, I am very new.

>>4301923
You're lacking line weight. Like lines with pressure/varying sizes. On paper, the equivalent would be a dip pen (I guess?) and on computer it depends on the software you use and tablet setting. I'm having trouble expressing the idea in english, sorry


Crossposting here from a different in case it goes faster here. Anyone got any good recommendation for video courses or books that covers character foreshortening? I'm "okay" when it comes to landscape/room perspectives but I have a damn hard time with characters. I did pic related and I redid the second panel (character) something like 6 times and even now I know it ain't right.

>>4302966
This has a lot of perspective issues, I wouldn’t use it.

>>4303099
Post ref then

>>4303099
From what I’m looking at you probably focused too heavily on the drawing and less on the subject. Try to focus a lot more on your reference to get every minute detail down and tweak your drawing after. It’s super obvious you drew what you think some parts of the elephant should look like as opposed to what is actually there

>>4301824
sorry, here's more of an attempt at sighting...

>>4303121
and here's the ref i used

>>4302774
Whoa, thanks a ton for the feedback! I highly appreciate it!

>>4303107
Could you explain why?

Is the anatomy fucked up?

Hot Garbage

>>4303207
do you really need to ask?

>>4302955
A little bit too lewd for my liking, how much have you been drawing over the past 4 months?

>>4303231
yes

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>>4302465
ngl i really really liked the design but the bird general seems a little bit off compared to the mosquitoe and the cubberino, i realize its has more of a cartoonish look but thus being said you should look for consistency as youre capable of doing better anon

>>4303235
yes, try doing doing the same pose yourself. youre not going to be able to unless you dislocate your shoulder

Is this the book used to learn copying? It feels more like a collection of neat tips and tricks than a book teaching anything

Can someone, anyone, please tell me how I do shading/lighting on the figure from imagination?
>tfw 95% of all my drawings are lineart
>other 5% are renders of photostudies

How do i paint like this?

>>4303442
why did the idiot add that find edges filter at the end? total dick move

>>4303360
It is, do the exercises as you read it. If it isn't enough for you then I guess you can work with drawing on the right side of the brain alongside it, but I think Keys to Drawing is superior.

Ok, this time I tried to not think about the pose without thinking about what to do at all right when I am drawing It, so I decided to draw this Solid Snake looking ass climbing a ladder. How do I learn how to draw clothes?

>>4303465
Stop thinking of them as paint, and actual objects that lay over the skin, and have volume, and move with the body. The right, upraised arm, the sleeve would pull towards the shoulder more, and slack areas would have folds and wrinkles. Clothes are easy to study, they're all around us. Look how clothes move with the body, and change shape when the body does.

one step closer to being able to draw my dream waifu, im learning to draw wrinkly old naked men

>>4303476
This made me laugh idk why, good luck with your waifu anon.

>>4303233
I haven't drawn anything since september
The reason the skirt seems transparent is because I used shitty pencils that don't want to erase

>>4303105
looks tight. are you making a manga?

i want to git gud, tell me what to do. i'll do anything, draw 12h/day, post 100 pages of drawings/day, tryhard like an asian, etc.

wat do bros

>>4303572
you need to enjoy drawing and do it every single day, this is the recipe for success
(i know what im talking about because ive just drawn "4chan kirby" instead of practicing anatomy or doing anything productive)

>>4303572
>draw 12h/day,
fastest way to burn out

I've been drawing for 6+ years and I'm still so shit, i want to end it all.

https://imgur.com/a/cQZTD#

>>4303592
>https://imgur.com/a/cQZTD#
dude is this 4 real?

>>4303592
holy shit, imgur wants phone numbers for rego now? wtf.
well good luck not having that gallery viewable by anyone.

>>4303592
hello cWc how are you doing today?

>>4303592
If you actually sat down and decided that you wanted to learn how to draw, it wouldn't have taken 6+ years for you to figure out you were shit.
Stop with this fucking "I have been drawing for X years and I'm still shit" bullshit.
>And here's some Satania since I know it triggers you faggots.

>>4301615
I'm trying to use foreshortening to make the legs look farther away but they don't. They just look small. Any advice?

I've made a full drawing after a long time without drawing properly. I want to ask there is someway to get better with messy chicken lines? Does peter han line exercise and draw a box ghosting works? Also does the size of the paper influence your drawing, I always draw in A4 paper when it's difficult to draw the face/hands/feet properly because when I draw a full size figure it gets so small (like this drawing). And drawing digital is better because you have and infinite sized paper? Also copy another person artwork, like this one, is good to learning or it's better to only copy real people? Also I don't have a good camera/scanner, but this drawing looks good? I'm aware of the hands, feet and hair that didn't look good.

>>4303635
>to make the legs look farther away
In what way? Should they look further away because they are further away from the camera compared to the top of the body, or because one of the legs is bending backwards away from the camera?
The former wouldn't work here because you've positioned the camera so that the head and the legs are equally distanced from the camera. The latter wouldn't work because both legs appear to stand firmly on the ground.
Excuse the lack of correct terminology, but you should get the idea.

I’m making a comic, what are the pros and cons of black or gray gutters vs white gutters?

>>4303661
>black or gray gutters
Waste of ink, if you're not publishing digitally.

>>4303658
i tried to make it so you can see the top surface on every shape, top of the had top of the feet top of the chest. you're looking down at the gundam. which i just imagine floating in space. so its feet are further away from the camera because the viewer is above the head. the only thing you dont see the top of is one of the shoulders because it has to be angled that way for the arm to come forward.

>>4303661
Black gutters will show through on the other side of the page on most interior paper stock.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33033942677.html
Is this a decent set for a beginner to build off of?

>>4303668
>i tried to make it so you can see the top surface on every shape
The problem here is that you've made an attempt by drawing the head at that angle but then drew everything else as if the front of the figure is facing the camera, rather than the top.
>the only thing you dont see the top of is one of the shoulders because it has to be angled that way for the arm to come forward.
I assume you're talking about the left arm here. Why would that arm come "forward" if the camera is above, rather than in front of it?

>>4303682
>as if the front of the figure is facing the camera, rather than the top.
Interpret this as "as if the camera was facing the front, rather than the top of the figure".

>>4301824
I'd say you're on the right track. Your understand of figure is really good, your shading is spot on I'd say at this point just keep practicing because your fundamentals are strong

>>4301843
colors are nice, but I don't understand what your trying to convey. A sleazy dirty fat monster man is the vibe i'm getting

>>4301923
I wouldn't call your lines chicken scratch they reminded me of early 70's manga. Try using thicker lines as outlines and keep your detail lines small, see how it feels.

>>4302007
if your doing still life, look at the object from many angles. get above it, below it, even take pictures for reference. seeing it from many views will help you cultivate it all into one. If you aren't doing still life, start doing still life

>>4302021
Strong fundamentals, your creasing in the clothes is spot on. make them fight

>>4302175
again strong fundamentals, work on your finer details. Instead of full bodies do some entire pages of just legs/hands/butts ect. you're gonna do amazing

>>4302263
I don't know what you were at before but I disagree that you lack anatomy knowledge this is great I can visualize the tendons in her body just from how well you've done the figure. great pose just off the top of your head too dude, well done

>>4302357
damn homie, idk what other I can say than well done. the only way i could find flaws is by being super nit picky and I aint into that. 10/10 cute tummy

>>4302440
>>4302441
gesture wise, you're on the right track. the way they are moving I can tell they are happy, dancing, fluid in their movement. I want to see your facial expression and finer details

>>4302451
how long have you been drawing? It looks nice. The face is stiff, but you did a good job showing dimension in the body and clothes with your shading. Keep drawing front facing like this just remember the face is 3D too, make the bridge of that nose stand out ect

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>>4302465
I fucking love animals so warriors. I always wanted to draw a frog/toad samurai smoking a long pipe but I'm shit at drawing that, YOU FUCKIN TOTALLY SHOULD. Great work man.

>>4302500
this is fun and terrifying. Make more, i wanna see

>>4302620
camel toe, visible nips ect are why id imagine desu senpai

>>4302633
All form of art art intertwined, with doing life like people you'll need strong fundamentals. practice basic figure sketching, draw many many faces from many angles, use lots of guiding lines, practice practice practice. If this is some of your first painting, well done!

>>4302713
one of the things that really helps us identify the placement of an object or our perspective of the object as we see as the viewer is lighting. Where your light source is coming from and how it hits the object decides where we stand as the viewer and how we are going to see it. start shading these cubes and im sure you'll see it a lot clearer friend

>>4302852
doodling is a gateway drug to art. A mouth in an eye with a man crawling out, very spooky. we think in similar ways. you should get some fine point markers/pens and try drawing things with bold lines id like to see that

>>4302900
what feedback would you like friend?

>>4302955
anime face fundamentals, check
feels really stiff though probably because she has no palms. detail work is your next assignment friend

>>4302962
you're fucking on point my guy, I like your ink spots too. they have personality. would love to see a whole piece from you like this

>>4303001
absolutely great hands my man. I 'm gonna save this to help me better my own hands in the future, thanks for your help <3

>>4303009
>>4303010
>>4303013
You've got talent! please post updates on this. will you be painting these too?

>>4303027
hey dude, ease up on yourself yeah? Looking at this I immediately know what it is. Your job to show me something and help me identify what it is, you accomplished. Practice! your doing good!

>>4303207
Yeah it's pretty rough homie. In general, it feels really stiff. the joints feel locked especially the back leg. the left arm is completely locked, the elbow is almost double jointed. Bend those noodles man.

>>4303216
I completely disagree. Whats your medium? I like the idea, a giant tower surrounded by clouds. Menacing. We are standing on the grass looking up in awe yeah? I want to see you try this again. Try working in more layers

>>4303442
Paint like YOU, not anyone else <3

>>4303465
Clothes sit ATOP the body. the human body and clothes are separate objects. Throw some clothes on your floor and draw them. than draw nude figures. Also draw pictures of people standing at like a T pose wearing XXL shirts so you can get an understanding of how clothes sit on people

>>4303476
wow, I fuckin love your style. it's surreal and comical. Draw a comic!

>>4303592
it seems like you've been doodling for 6 years, and trying to draw OTHER peoples styles. Find your style my friend, its in there

>>4303596
wonderful, I want to see a cleaned up version

>>4303635
perspective, lean the upper body forward

>>4303650
A lot of people who draw this manga style have the same issue. your bodys look 3D and have depth but your face and hands are flat. Draw real human bodys in motion and not. Draw lots of hands and faces so your 2D waifus look like they wanna come into the 3D world. This is a cute drawing all things considered

>>4301923
Holy shit, still here?

Now that I've reviewed everything in this thread, HELLO! First time posting. I've been drawing most of my life but this Christmas I've decided to go after a dream and start oil painting.

My drawings are always of monsters, creatures, distorted bodies, horror-esqe blah blah. This is my first oil painting. What do you think of it? Does it make you think anything? do you like/hate my style? lets talk art

>>4303745
full painting

>>4303745
you are too nice, i suggest you leave this board there is nothing here but agony and despair. best of luck with your art anon, enthusiasm pays off!

Am I doing anything right?

>>4303767
i really suggest trying out using a larger brush and less values so it looks less streaky

>>4303767
Is she Jewish?

>>4303767
Jew nose

Is there any sort of placement test for drawing?

>>4303592
More like you put like 100 hours in over a 6 year period.

competitive drawing ladder when?

>>4303592
Holy shit you're retarded.

>>4303592
Thanks for resetting my visual library, asshole!

>>4303728
I'm trying to get some feedback on proportions and form. (Im the guy who drew the pencil picture of the lady facing away leaning on the chair).

>>4303767
I feel like the way her neck connects to her shoulders is off, but I could be full of shit.

>>4303592
nice progress

I've been doing figure drawings from croquis cafe videos for about two months and now I got myself Loomis' figure drawing book. Am I supposed to stay at the proportions and perspective lessons for a while and learn them really good (draw them all many times)? Does it pick up?

>>4303360
Yes it teaches you how to draw from life better. I’ve only done one exercise so far but I’m loving it, I highly recommend it.

what should i fix before moving forward with the details?
>inb4 everything

>>4304133
Your lines need a bit more confidence (they seem wobbly), anatomy is overall messed up with the limbs and all, and proportions aren’t there. I would do more figure drawing if I were you or read a book about it a bit more

>>4303602
right click. inspect. right click in tiny box. reload

>>4304145
>anatomy is overall messed up with the limbs and all, and proportions aren’t there
Could you expand on this part more? Redline would also be greatly appreciated.
Btw proportions are purposefully exaggerated (not saying this justifies a shitty drawing, just letting you know)

>>4303701
From the dirty fat sleazy monster dude.
It's a low angle of my face with another edited selfie with my hair in the way of my facial features overlayed. I have trouble sleeping and typically have extremely suicidal thoughts and I feel weak, and it makes me feel dead. So I made it sort of a claustrophobic distorted close up of a corpse and the colors and spattered pixels over it are like flutterings of hope since I'm feeling more hopeful lately.

Also here's another drawing I did last night.

>>4304192
It's shit. Use more construction

>>4301824
u clearly dont like drawing fingers but u shud always spend extra time drawing the things you hate otherwise u wont improve

>>4304204
What the fuck is he going to construct?

>>4301923
forget everything u know about drawing go to ctrlpaint.com or similar website watch every vid and follow along the exercises otherwise u wont improve

Is talent real? Can someone with no God given artistic ability really become a skilled artist?

>>4304291
I've watched it happen, so yes. Think of talent as just a head-start on the studying. If you don't have it then you just need to work to catch up.

>>4304295
I want to see examples of some no talent loser becoming great

>>4304295
Talent is not a head-start, it's a speed boost. You'll never catch up to talented people.

>>4304304
Ngmi attitude. That's why you're here and not improving at all.

>>4303767
The jew nose

I should die for being so shit

>>4304307
I don't care because I'm talented.

>>4304334
post your work then pussy

another bad one

>>4304333
>>4304347
why do you post your trash then instead of becoming better?

>>4304349
I want to kill myself and being humiliated will drive me to it more

While my overall anatomy needs to improve, I feel my arms/hands need to be worked on more. I can keep practicing but Is there some practices I can do specifically to improve my arms or is it just keep drawing from life and seeing how arms fold and move? Also, for construction, do I need to have a skeleton drawn really well, or just so that *I* know where things go?

>>4304360
Never polish a turd, Focus more time studying/drawing anatomy rather than rendering.

>>4304284
What is construction?

>>4304379
>Never polish a turd
pyw, I think this advice is retarded.

>>4304398
prove it

>>4304390
Building up a drawing with basic shapes first rather than arbitrarily starting at some random point--which is what printers do.

>>4304379
Hmm, that's true, but I thought that it looked pretty good once I was done that I might as well give it the color. Plus, don't I learn to color as well when I do so? Not that it was very good, but the idea is there

>>4302451
Eyes should be in the center of the head

I tried again. I think this one is better.

>>4304501
Fuckin hell only I had attached a picture.

>>4304463
Color comes after value studies

How does /beg/ feel about references? I hear people like Ethan really push using references for literally everything but it sounds so hollow to me.

Working on more deliberate value placement.

>>4304555
Fucking retard

>>4304556
Double retard

>>4304192
Get over yourself

>>4304558
Looks like we got a triple

I've been experimenting with different art styles, my goal is to find a simple but cute style so it's not too hard to draw but still looks good... opinions on this?

>>4304564
Brb, kms.

>>4304565

keep experimenting or you can learn fundamentals and have more control in finding style. you can easily copy style and adjust it as you like if you have good basic fundamentals.

>>4304555
>>4304564
Please no quadruple retard

>>4304531

you need ref because you still don't have information to extract from your brain whenever you need it. how to get more information in your "visual library"? do studies.

if you're stuck on anything use ref. you can use tons of it but NEVER neglect doing studies. much better to pull information from "visual library/memory than to do a search. Relying on ref because it's easier just to search an image is a really bad habit and in the end heavily relying on it doesn't feel you accomplish anything. at least for me that's how it feels.

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>>4304600
ref

>>4304514
I see. So for now, I will focus more on anatomy and figure than coloring. Or at least, maybe not color all of them every time.

>>4304600

>>4303001
I should have waited to upload the full page, going to post todays hands

>>4304648

>>4303743
Yeah

>>4304286
>>4303105
>>4303701
Thanks so much for the tips, I think I'll try do exercises with lines and painting first and then come back to figures once I've reached an understanding of the pressure etc.

watch this /beg/'s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzwB6d6zPNo

3-4 hours into my first dedicated painting after finally getting my babby technique down, going to texture my skin's shitty mutt complexion last. Reference is a hand mirror I keep looking over at (sketch layer hidden)

>>4304723
>>4304723
wtf kind of disgusting fat ugly animal is that fucking thing supposed to be?

>>4303739
>4303216
I am using watercolor.Having a tough time to grasp perception.Any tips?Thanks for the feedback too

>>4304828
Your mom

>>4304600

do another pass on top

>>4304886
basic line work really, like using 3 line perspective to set up where we would be standing vs the tower like pic related. also, just practice ya know?

>>4304899
First thing you need to do is draw a horizon line. Then, for two point perspective, you need to put two dots (vanishing points) spaced apart from one another on the horizon. All horizontal tangent lines should trace back to one of these two dots. For three point perspective, put a third vanishing point in the sky in between the two horizontal vanishing points. All vertical lines will trace back to this third vp.

>>4304360
The colors you choose look great! However, the line work is very poor. The lines are very jagged at points and looks very inconsistent. I would recommend practicing on drawing smoother lines.
there's a part in the drawing where parts of the women's thigh just warps around the hand. It all looks very strange.
I can see a lot of potential and you remind me of when I was younger! Just keep drawing what you love and I'm sure you'll improve.

Is working on individual body parts or the whole body better?

>>4304917
The linework is cleaner without color, but I just don't know yet how to manipulate layers just yet so I can color within the lines instead of accidentally taking chunks out of them. I also have to do the naked version since the clothed version is a mess because I forget what layer I'm on and might color half on one layer, the other on the other layer, etc. Also, thanks, I appreciate that comment!

>>4304583
Can you explain to me how to exactly do a "study" I hear it thrown around a lot but don't know what it truly means.

>>4304573
Post your work

>>4304648
>>4304649
How do you construct them?

have being like 8 months or more since the last time I did a drawing, and I told myself, I will get back and do better right now.
And decided to just do something simple, do a drawing based on thouse word challenges...
But suddently... I cant draw anaything.
I start doing some lines, trying to put an outline, but suddently notice that it suck or is ugly or I dont like it, and erase the damn thing.
That would not be a problem, except I think I have done it like 5 times, and have nothing.
I dont plan to post it anywere, so there should not be presure on it looking ugly....
But Im just erasing the damn thing...
What you recommend to get lose after so long... this is so weird.

>>4303099
read this
>>4303360
and also drawing on the right side of the brain especially. do the exercises EXACTLY as it tells you to with the viewfinder and everything. made mega newbie gains doing still lifes with that.

here's my progress report guys
left: from reference in late nov (the begginner picasso upside down exercise)
mid: from ref late dec (constructing animals draw a box)
right: from ref today (downloading loomis heads into my brain)
kind of cheating with flat 'side on' stuff here sorry. were gonna make it.

>>4305076
of course i fail to attach image

>>4303701
I love you bro

So the very earliest stuff to learn before perspective/figures are drawabox and peter hans sketching class yes?
Tried drawing heads but drawing circles is difficult at this level

>>4305082
I love you too man <3

>>4305077
absolutely love your style

Drew this yesterday. Not entirely shaded, but I would like thoughts on the perspective/anatomy.

>>4305261
amazing! did you draw line art than paint or is this all from paint? its really cool

>>4305268
thats a fucking frog homie, i can feel how slimey he is just by looking at him. well done

>>4305073
C'mon, don't let a shit drawing define you anon. You shouldn't erase if you don't like so you can check later what were your mistakes and you don't need to let the drawing define you, it's the opposite. Also you can try to listen to some music that inspire you and drawing something just for fun, even if it's ugly, and don't pressure yourself. Remember that little kids are always happy drawing, even if it's shit.

>>4305073
I honestly believe you are thinking way to much. Art is fun, and mindless. I think you really respect art and want to be good at it which is where all of this burden of weight is coming from but whatever you do in life, you should enjoy first and foremost, and you don't sound very joyful my guy

>>4305268
>frogposters

I wasted 3 years on cel-shading and now, when I want to learn soft shading I have no idea what to do. This took me 1,5 hours just to copy in black and white because I couldn't replicate colors, what should I read or watch to at least understand what I'm doing

Anyone knows a career fit to become and illustrator or concept artist? I've been researching but the only thing that remotely shows up is fine arts but there seems to be more specialized careers, are there? Also pic related, besides some perspective issues, what is else there to fix?

>>4303592
wew lad

>>4305389
Charles bargue drawing course. Read everything and do at least 5 of each exercise. Also brush up on value structure.

>>4303592
'grats on achieving permanent /beg/ level my man

I just want to draw and improve but every time I open my sketchbook I lose all confidence, I start sketching random shit without sense with a pdf of a Loomis book in front of me and I feel like there's no redeeming qualities about and I'm never gonna get better, so crawling in my bed is probably what I'll done for the rest of my life
All do from imagination now is just Loomis heads of anime characters bland as background NPCs and stiff bodies built like legos with unnatural poses tought of at the moment when just one year ago I uselt to draw more military and medieval stuff
Any tips to get out of this hell? Not drawing in general, the way I just feel uncomfortable to do it.

>>4305448 Any tips to get out of this hell? Not drawing in general, the way I just feel uncomfortable to do it.
You have to draw, if you fell uncomfortable drawing from imagination just copy other artists work and do exercises. You'll never get better if you don't draw and you can't wait for the inspiration hits your in the head, you have to do it little by little everyday until it become a routine. I also like bobby chiu advice videos https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLeLw9TDyBUdWJuG8YqgWvW-UcW19_DSFq

Someone recommended I draw the Asaro head to learn the planes of the face, but I effed it up royally.

>>4305564
you know that you're supposed to draw the head in different perspectives dozens of time until you know them by heart, right?

>>4303001
>>4304648
>>4304649
These hands look like shit.

>>4305598
Post a picture of your face so I can tell how much of a shitface you are.

>>4305637
The hands are shit, that is a fact.

>>4305598
sorry, you're probably right

>>4305652
I know i’m right. Work on those hands because they’re shit.

>>4305564
It's time to give up anon...

First digital painting since 2014

>>4305653
it was like my 3rd time trying to draw hands okay

Some more gestures, how am I doing?

>>4304810
Guys, should I darken the right side of the face some more with a layer of low opacity black brushstrokes?

Thoughts on this sketch?

>>4305662
Are you drawing hookers?

>>4305660
Don't listen to the faggot those are pretty good hands specially for /beg/ although they can be improved they seem a little bit square on the back side, the nails seem to be off and the proportions of fingers in some look a bit unnatural but overall its pretty good.

>>4304899
Nice, now make it flow more than just straight lines. Think fish eye lense on a God eye view.

>>4305662
ref

>>4305672
still trying, just did the one a couple minutes ago

>>4305787
ref

>>4305309
maybe im just a little depressed, and got frustrated of having the level of a deviant art kid after 30 years of loving to draw. and i guess having huge time gaps of stopping drawing do not help

>>4305811
ref

>>4305787
>>4305791
compare the thumbnails, don't be afraid to have darker values

I might ngmi, but I'll still keep trying and do my best along the way, desu! Join me!

>>4305875
ref

>>4305686
the construction is there but proportion is off. ring finger is too skinny, and the length and thickness of each digit is inconsistent. pointer looks like a grape.thumb too skinny. you're on the right track though.

>>4305658

first digital? as in you've been doing trad all this time anon? or did you stop doing anything art related all this time?

if it's the latter...imagine what level you'll be at if you didn't stop practicing.

>>4305827
desu! desu!

>>4305903
I'll be worse?

>>4304565

trash

>>4305902
How are you doing these? Asaro head?

Thoughts?
Also, would you read a SoL comic about monsters?

>>4305875
For poses like these where the torso is coming forward, try to divide the hip and the chest into 2 boxes or cilinders to show their direction better.
Or you could add some cross contours to show the direction better.

And with this work of art I have officially surpassed beg

Farewell friends

>>4306095
That actually looks really good anon!
Blog?

>>4306095
karate muledick

>>4305995
I don't know what asaro head is so I'm gonna say no.

The direction my art has been going. How meta.

I drew this using an existing art piece as reference.

Roast Me, I am the same person that posted the monstrosity in the bottom right corner 5 months ago. Hope to make great gains in 5 more months. Maybe this could become the monstrosity that I put in the bottom corner of my future art

>Pinterest Link to original:
https://pin.it/2yvjxmhuh3ssuk

>>4306120
learn construction. peter han, dynamic bible.your drawing is flat, there's no perspective. and the shading is extremely messy. on the human face, you're symbol drawing and the construction is bad. do 100 loomis heads.

>>4306165
>too stupid to read
you might as well stop now because you clearly lack the intelligence to get anywhere in terms of art.
He said that drawing of the head was 5 months ago, there's literally no reason for you to critique that shit, it was just there to see the progress.
Also, nigger.

>>4306165
The human face was an old image, However I will take the shading tips into consideration. Not to be smug but, please critique my current work and Roast Me.

>pic is my current human face

>>4306176
>Samefagging this hard.

>>4306165
>>4306180
lmao imagine getting this BTFO.
I know this is an anonymous board and all but still, that shit must be fucking embarrassing

>>4306177
Can you post one where you don't cover up most of the head?

Hows my construction? Am i doing it right?

>>4305662
You're doing okay

>>4306200
ref

>>4305676
Proko's got some good taste. fuckin hot model. You know what's weird though? if this were the sketch, not the ref, I would have said her right breast looks flat. I am tempted to photoshop it to look correct. I guess a little asymmetry is natural but it's just a weird angle.

>>4306204
It's because her right arm is up.
Any woman will have a smaller looking titty if she has one of her arms up.

>>4306177
Anon, I don't want to roast you because I don't want to discourage anyone from drawing but you need a lot of work. It doesn't look like you made any improvement it just looks like you hid the fucked up face with 5 pairs of sunglasses. You have a lot of work to do. And everything I said about the first sketch you posted is true of this one. You have to learn basic construction and perspective. And really if you're just starting out drawing probably the best first thing for you to learn to draw is the human head.

>>4306206
That's definitely part of it but I also think she's got a classic BLT if you know what I'm saying.
>bigger left tit

>>4306213
Maybe,
He'd have to post some more examples so we can truly come to a conclusion on this matter.

>>4306208
The roast me thing is just a samefagging sarcasm. The sunglasses is based on a reference, but I do sometimes have problems with drawing eyes, so maybe posting the sunglasses wasn't the best idea. Plus I got the perspective of the glasses wrong.I would post the reference but I can't seem to find it.

How are you meant to do gestures with males? They seem too blocky and straight to see those curves.

>>4306200
>Hows my construction? Am i doing it right?
Absolutely not.
I get the sense that you do not understand Form in the slightest.
too tired now to explain what you're supposed to be doing, so I'm just gonna throw some videos at you.

https://youtu.be/sOlwDL8HtT0
https://youtu.be/tsdkhQis34U
https://youtu.be/FF8XgTQmoPg
https://youtu.be/yqxPHew5bGQ

trying out some construction 1/3

2/3

3/3

>>4306215
I agree. Get on it Anon. We need moar.

What makes a good reference photo? Like these thumbnails are examples of what I like to use, but I just don't know what makes for good ones

>tfw ngmi

why is this /beg/? you guys are all way above my level.
What exercises should I be doing? I've tried doing that grid drawing for line confidence, and just attempting a lot of horizontal and vertical lines in general. And then I've done some guesture drawing. Is there a better exercise for line confidence? What other exercises do you guys recommend?

>>4306312
you don't necessarily need to follow all of these things but in general: lighting, pose, and perspective. frankly, youre just picking hot chicks. that doesn't matter. you don't want to use a picture taken from a weird angle when you're just learning. and especially bad lighting.

the point of the lightining is so you can do a value study. if you had to recreate the picture using only 5 shades of gray. so you want it clear, one light source. so that you can learn how shapes reflect light and create shadows. washed out or shadowey selfies are no good. also, i see way too often where people use pictures of these girls with no feet or hands, or the phone covering their face. pick a nice post so you can understand what their body is doing, so it has a nice flow, and so you can see all of it. and also, a lot of these selfies are sort of looking up at or down at the girls. that perspective is complicated and its just going to take away from the appeal of the drawings, as well as make it harder for you to learn proportion . you're gonna be confused why her legs are so short and end up drawing a dwarf and wonder why she doesn't look hot.

>>4306388
read the sticky
also pyw

>>4305246
thanks, motivates me anon! they're all from reference mind you so i don't know where my style starts and ends...

>>4306388
Try tracing over reference photos if you can, preferably with digital so you can quickly undo shitty strokes until the right one lands. After that, try sketching beside a reference, then sketching a reference you have to spend longer time looking away from

did pic related with the latter method for an ancient /soc/ thread before I realized my desk was making all my drawings disproportionately large at the top (lol)

>>4306388
don't be intimidated. drawabox has some stuff early on that will help with line confidence. ghosting lines is important for making clean lines so learn that especially. it's helpful to do some stuff with no pencil so you can't erase, felt liner only. forces you to become more efficient and get better with your linework
then you could take that and apply it by doing some still lifes which will help you learn how to xerox what you're looking at to some degree.

>>4306393
I see, okay. I try to vary my references and pick good ones. I know what you mean about weird angles with them facing up/down, or the face being covered. The more professional models tend to do, well, more professional full body shots that are more useful than the shadowy mirror selfies. I'm using /hr/ for the photoshoots that get posted there as well as following select models that post high quality poses

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdXQJS3Yv0Y

drawabox theme song

new
>>4306701


you fags couldn't make one? you lazy fucks

>>4302358
isn't this the girl on twitter who "banned" people from using her pics as art references?