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So this is the power of dynamic sketching?

>> No.4291276

>>4291257
no wonder that he always draws these weird looking characters, he can't draw human faces

>> No.4291281

>>4291257
i-is it just me or is the lightsaber a bit curved?

>> No.4291284

>>4291257
Fucking retard we literally just had thus thread, you TOOK the picture from it and made a whole new fucking shitpost thread go fuck yourself faggot post your work

>> No.4291293

>>4291284
hi peter, stop grinding boxes and start feeling the form.

>> No.4291297

>>4291293
Based and vilppupilled

>> No.4291334

>>4291293
pyw PUSSY

>> No.4291336
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4291336

>>4291281
You're right

>> No.4291344

>>4291334
i will once you post yours
>inb4 dwarf faced d y n a m i c sketch on toned paper

>> No.4291349

>>4291336
yikes

>> No.4291360

>>4291257
something is way off

it's like the arms/hands and the head don't belong to the same body or something

>> No.4291384
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4291384

>>4291284
here's my work pussy crab.
Now go ahead and post your 1 millionth free hand box.

>> No.4291386

>>4291257
this is literally shit m8

>> No.4291400

>>4291384

draw a face

>> No.4291406

>those eyes
>that nose
>those cheeks
>That chin
>The shape of the head
>Those tiny arms
>Those square lumps for hands
>That thumb
WTF

>> No.4291407

>>4291384
Hello Erik Gist, how are you?

>> No.4291409

>>4291384
Youre the fucking pussy crab faggot making shitty literal crab threads like this fucking moron

>> No.4291411

>>4291407
I'm good brah, just BTFOIN' dynamiclets.

>> No.4291421

>>4291411
>sperging out on 4chan throwing childish shitfits

Ill remember that name. Enjoy your reputation while it lasts ;)

>> No.4291433

>>4291421
You'll do nothing crab, just lemme see your d y n a m i c sketchbook so i can have a laugh

>> No.4291437

>>4291433
Ill just tell you to suck my cock instead. Slurp up faggot ;)

>> No.4291446

>>4291437
I'm not into incels, no one really is.
Now post your ebin cubes on toned paper or can i just see your work in /beg/??

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4291456

>>4291411
So that's still a WIP?
Thought you finished it as I saw it exhibited at the guillermo del toro ehibition in 2017?

It was good seeing you in the same Prokko video with Peter Han
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KBf6APoKEM

>> No.4291463

>>4291421
Lmao retard google who erik gist is
>>4291456 he's an actual pro, and wouldn't be shitposting on /ic/

>> No.4291472

>>4291463
This. y'all are dumbasses if you think this is really Erik.

>> No.4291479 [DELETED] 

>>4291463
I know.
Just wondering how far this guy will pretend.

>> No.4291482

>>4291456
Your pic is upside down dude

>> No.4291487
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4291487

>>4291463
I know.
I just wanted to see how far he'll pretend.

>> No.4291670

>>4291257

a stylistic choice is not an inability to draw something. you all are ngmi.

>> No.4291735

>>4291336
if he swinging the light saber it' fine

>> No.4291865

>>4291456
Looks shit

>> No.4291866

>>4291257
Oof

>> No.4291867

>>4291257
ya he sucks at drawing actual humans. Like some other guy said. His brain is on some dwarf shrooms.

>> No.4292054

>>4291670
>He draws retarded looking humans on purpose
ngmi

>> No.4292060

>>4291865
pyw

>> No.4292084

>>4291257
To be fair, that is kind of what Luke looks like.

>> No.4292226
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4292226

>>4291257
>>4291281
>lightsaber
Oh, I thought it was something else.

>> No.4292252

>>4292226
lol

>> No.4292333

>peter han
hack
>ruan jia
hack
>krenz
hack
>proko
hack
>marshall
ultra-hack
>vilppu
hack
>loomis
ultra-mega soulless hack

Who the fuck are we supposed to learn from ??

>> No.4292334

>>4292333
>vilppu
>hack
Kill yourself.

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4292336

>>4292333
hey don't shit on daddy vilppu

>> No.4292341

>>4292333
Hogarth

>> No.4292344
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4292344

>>4292333
old italian masters

>> No.4292361

>>4292344
this.
Basiclly the only non-hacks are old med and dutch masters.

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4292381

>>4292361
>>4292344
This, their old studies make great learning tools.

>> No.4292385

>>4292334
>>4292336
He is calling out the people who call literally every artist that ever lived a hack.

>> No.4292388

>>4291257
that looks more like a mentos and coke situation than a lightsabre

>> No.4292434
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4292434

>>4292344
old masters in general
Asaro head for example got invented 500 years ago

>> No.4292969

>>4291456
Is that an anime nose bleed?

>> No.4295863

>>4292434
But then some jewmerican turned it into plastic and sold it for 500 bucks a pop, so he literally invented it bucko

>> No.4295884

>>4291257
i knew peter han bullshit was a scam, been saying it from day one. granted, many anons saw through it too though. this is what he gets for calling loomis a meme in his discord to be honest

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4295897

>4295884

>> No.4295902

>>4295884
If you think "more Loomis" would fix the OP pic then you're delusional.

>> No.4295906

>>4295902
If you think it wouldn't, you're a fuck up that deserves to be as shitty at drawing as you are

>> No.4295908

>>4295902
ngmi

>> No.4295911

>>4295906
>>4295908
Redline it lol

>> No.4295947

>>4295911
pyw

>> No.4295971

>>4295884
He has a discord?

>> No.4295979

>>4295906
Loomis wouldn’t fix it, an underdrawing and reference would though.

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4295981

>>4295947
Ok sure. All my work from imagination is cringe DA uber /beg/ tier so not much point in posting it.
Now redline it.

>> No.4295986

>>4295979
>t. has no understanding of constructive drawing
lol what are you a ruan julia fan

>> No.4295991

>>4295986
Yes, construction involves doing an underdrawing but knowing peter Han, he probably didn’t use a pencil and had to work with his mistakes instead of being able to fix them.

>> No.4295992

>>4295986
Show me what mistakes in the drawing could have been fixed with better/more construction.

>> No.4296012

>>4292333
Why are each of these dudes hacks?!
I'm sorry but your post, to me, has no value unless you explain why.

>> No.4296422

>>4295981
if that is imagination , its pretty good

>> No.4296466

>>4296422
No it's a copy from reference lol, sorry if I wasn't clear. My post was to say that my imagination work is much worse than reference.

>> No.4296833

I'm starting to feel like Dynamic Sketching and DAB are /beg/ traps. Peter Han says in his Dynamic Bible book that he already knew how to draw by the time he took Dynamic Sketching in college, so he wasn't a /beg/ at that point. The DAB guy took Peter Han's class in person as a /beg/ and documented his journey and obsessed over those teachings to this day and his art still looks like hot garbage. I think this stuff with its obsession with drawing things perfectly the first time gives you a skewed view of how drawing works and is mainly beneficial if you want to work in that precise, no-underdrawing ink style that guys like Peter do. Figure drawing masters like Huston and Vilppu don't draw like this at all. Coincidentally, I've seen tons of people on /ic/ and related communities do DAB and DS and get basically nothing out of it but make massive gains when they go all-in on figure drawing.

>> No.4296847

>>4291257
lmao

i was going to make this thread last week, but i got sleepy and totally forgot.

>> No.4296860

>>4291293
his student, from drawabox, draws better than him

>> No.4296870 [DELETED] 

I dont get it. is she unerwater or what? also, those hands. Jesus chist Peter...

>> No.4296876

>>4291257
can't blame him
white people are just naturally ugly so it's hard to draw them

>> No.4296880

>>4296860
No, the guy from drawabox still can't draw
I bet he's still drawing his boxes in perspective

>> No.4296886 [DELETED] 

>>4296876
>white people
its an old asian jedi lady, underwater. asians are yelow not white or jewish

>> No.4296895
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4296895

>>4296860

>> No.4296924

>>4296833
This. Figure Drawing is the Key to everything.

>> No.4296931 [DELETED] 

>>4296924
its like a poetry

>> No.4296941

>>4296860
no he definitively does not but that's a massive red flag for peter han's teachings if his most "famous" student is total dogshit
look at a teacher like bridgman whose most famous student was fucking loomis, it's a world of difference

>> No.4296947

>>4296941
don't forget Rockwell, Frazetta, and literally every professional artist today. Not everyone learned from Loomis, but you can pretty much guarantee every serious artist has a Bridgman book.

>> No.4296953

>>4296947
i'm talking about direct students, did rockwell study directly under bridgman? i just know that loomis did. at any rate the point remains the same.

>> No.4296956

>>4296953
Yeah, I know Rockwell studied under Bridgman directly, as did a bunch of other Golden Age illustrators.

>> No.4296957

>>4296941
>>4296895
>>4296880
lmao

okay okay, i was wrong, goddaaaaam

>> No.4296967

>>4296895
>pls kill me

>> No.4296989

>>4296895
>thoose trees
>that composition
>that lack of emotions

I think some people just have no imagination at all.

>> No.4296990

>>4296895
The ironic thing is that it doesn't even have the sense of 3D depth that perspective is supposed to help you with the most.

>> No.4296993

>>4296895
THIS is what a lack of talent actually looks like. Anyone can grind long enough to get out of /beg/. But not everyone has a soul.

>> No.4297009

>>4296993
Could you use more ambigious nonsense /beg/ bullshit buzzwords in your next comment? Fuck you and thanks pal.

>> No.4297015

>>4296993
He doesnt seem to be out of /beg/, theres no gesture on his pic, and damn theres some fucking beast in there, si many thing could have been done, use the mane, the flow of the paws, even the saliva drops, assign some emotional weight to the lion, make it look powerful, but no, all looks stiff, disproportionate, and just plain ugly, the pic itself looks like painted with shit and piss.

>> No.4297018
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>>4296895
god the drawabox dude is just so bad. picrel the figure lesson from before he deleted it. literally like >>4296880 said, he just draws these boxes and shit his whole life and attempts a real illustration from time to time but fails. drawabox is a trap for begs, i realized it a long time ago. how can he not see his drawings suck i have no idea.
honestly i see it with a lot of popular teachers online - sinix and sycra are the same, theyve been drawing for god knows how long and still can draw one thing and their portfolios are hot mess. and yet all of them have their crazy fans that will defend them no matter what because they got basically scammed by them.
as for peter: im not convinced the OP is that bad, i think the face design is just unappealing, but i havent seen anybody explain whats wrong with the anatomy or technique. still, he just rarely draws faces and this is the result.
i think the main problem with all these drawabox and dynamic sketching crap is that it convinces people to treat drawing like science. you have to do this first, then that, etc. while good artists just keep doodling and drawing whatever they fucking like and they progress with time.

>> No.4297029

>>4297018
sinix is legit tho, just lazy

>> No.4297032

>>4297018
>those figures and """"gesture"""
WAKE ME UUP

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4297036

>>4297029
for the level he claims he's at and with that concept art course he sells for 650$ im sure he could do better

>> No.4297050

>>4297036
Not bad really, nothing impressive though, but I think you can use the principles he teaches for your advantage, like the force drawing guy, he doesnt do much art beside teaching but his students usually do awesome shit with the principles he teaches, like TB Choi.

>> No.4297057

>>4297018
His faces are like the meme of "la creatura" but drawn unironically, totally hideous and void of any appeal.

>> No.4297067

>>4297018
>overweight
looks like a polio striken hunchback orc

>> No.4297081

>>4295863
what a chad

>> No.4297083

I think theres a disconnection in the brain of the people like the draw a box guy, they can learn what a fundamental is, like why contrast is important, but can't implement it to their own work, don't know why that may happen, but I have seen it many times, thats why they can "teach", because they can preach in a convincing way that to the ears of begs sound like if it's coming from the mouth of a pro, don't want to sound like an asshole but it may be low IQ, i'm not saying you need to be Einstein to draw, but most real artist are smart people, and the really really good ones, like Michelangello, Milt Khal, Bernini, Bouguerau surely had an IQ higher than the average, just look at their musician counterparts, Mozart, Vivaldi, Pergolesie, thoose guys had IQ over 140.

>> No.4297091

>>4297018
Looking at his art, I feel like I'm on-par with this motherfucker and that means I know he isn't a very good artist.

>> No.4297100

>>4297083
i think the case with these people is that they were struggling with their skills a lot and "discovered" something that they thought was so important and lifechanging that they immediately had to start telling other people about it and teaching everyone and just repeating it over and over, but they dont develop any other skill

>> No.4297112

>>4297083
I think it is just a natural progression to want to tell others about stuff that you suddenly understand the importance of even if you cant implement it well.
Thats basically half of my posts here, tell people about good books/videos/techniques because i know they are good from other peoples work but cant implement it as well as they do.

But the big different is that Im not trying to make a fucking career out of my /beg/ drawings and charging people to see secondhand and second rate teaching material that I learned from a better source.

>> No.4297113

>>4297029
fucking loling @ ur bginner eyes

>> No.4297118

>>4297113
pyw

>> No.4297201 [DELETED] 

>>4297118
he is right you know

>> No.4297213

>no work posted
lmao typical

>> No.4297236

>>4297018

there was a time when I was really impressed by those portrait drawings.

>> No.4297242

>>4292054

>dont even know what a retard actually looks like

waste of space.

>> No.4297253

>>4297242
that luke does look FAS'd

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4297257

>>4296895
can't believe i thought this guy was impressive

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>>4297050
>tb choi
it disturbs me that shes fucking cute. why does god curse us with no talent and no looks?

>> No.4297296

You need taste to ever make a good drawing. Fundamentals are important to a point but taste filters that raw material into something aesthetic and designed. I'm not talking about "good" taste either, but any kind of taste. Any aesthetic filter whatsoever, a general direction you envision for your art. If you never develop any taste, you'll make unappealing or else forgettable garbage forever no matter whatever. It's a feeling of spinning your wheels.
The mistake beginners make is: I'll grind it out for a year or two until I git gud, then I'll get serious about it. I'll start making art when I'm good.
Three to five years go quickly by and it didn't quite work out as planned. What went wrong? Was it lack of talent, IQ? I'd say in many cases, it's that taste and standards were never cultivated. Studying was done, but art wasn't made (often enough). Don't wait on making art.

>> No.4297301 [DELETED] 

>>4297268
cute twins

>> No.4297314

>>4297268
I love her
>tfw she drew a condom next to a smily face holding a needle
>comments called it harmful art she had to apologize

I fucking hate sjw/cancel culture

>> No.4297322

>>4297314
god thats fucking funny. it's too bad good artists get surrounded by those faggots

>> No.4297348

>>4297314
Fuck, this retards knows no limits, everything offends them, TB mostly does funny silly art, why they have to be this way? I'm suprised they havent sperged about her drawing people with guns.

>> No.4297363 [DELETED] 

>>4297314
why did she even apologize? bad move in the long run

>> No.4297378

>>4297363
Because she is specially akward af, if you watch his streams she literally sweats dorkiness, usually people like that choose to apologize, on the other end of the spectrum you have people like Istebrak who tells others to literally "fuck off if you don't like this shit", they still retain their following mass, I think having the freedom to flip millenials pretty much worths a few thousands suscribers less.

>> No.4297426

>>4297378
i wish i could lick istebraks curry pussy

>> No.4297446

>>4297426
She is pretty based, but not really cute, I pass, also a one trick pony of a teacher, TB choi can even animate.

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4297681

>>4297446
that little sandniglet is cute as fuck

>> No.4297692

>>4297681
didnt knew she was a weeb

>> No.4297719
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4297719

>>4291257
how the fuck do you retards take this guy seriously ahahahahahahah

>> No.4297727

>>4297719
Post your dwarves

>> No.4297852

>>4296466
ngmi

>> No.4297946

>>4296993
ngmi

>> No.4298306

>>4297719
This one's not bad, but if i saw this posted on /ic/ i'd probably tell him hey "you should practice, use reference for that angle, feel the form, loomis, etc."

And then if he revealed himself as a teacher, I'd be like "yikes."

>> No.4298335

>>4297719
The point of the art is to give you perspective that perspective doesn't matter, it's pure genius.

>> No.4298392

Eeh dynamic sketching one is okay.
Helps beginners to draw nice lines and understand the basics before getting depeer into perspective, form, etc.

>> No.4298394

>>4297719
>the feet
lololololo

>> No.4298398

>>4297719
If you just saw this in a comic book somewhere and you weren't trying to hyper-analyze it for "mistakes", you'd think it was sick. The only problem with this at all is that MAYBE the composition/pose is a little stiff, something that "hurr more Loomis" and "hurr more constuction" is unlikely to help with.

>> No.4298410

>>4298398
>The only problem with this at all is that MAYBE the composition/pose is a little stiff
Retard. The perspective, which is supposedly han's strong point, is atrocious.
Composition, gesture and design are awful but expected from him.

>> No.4298411

>>4298398
No, the perspective is literally fucked up.

>> No.4298432

>>4298410
>>4298411
Does the picture look bad? Not, "do I THINK it's bad because of theory XYZ about how drawings are supposed to look", but, "does it actually LOOK bad"?

>> No.4298435

>>4298432
Yes, it looks like shit.

>> No.4298442

>>4298435
Well then you're just retarded, and I hope Peter Han continues to have a successful career while you make angry posts on /ic/ about how much more skilled and successful artists than you need to grind fundies.

>> No.4298443

>>4298432
Are you retarded?
Bad perspective, composition and gesture are the reasons why it looks bad, it's not a theory about how it should look.
Maybe it looks good to your /beg/ eyes.

>> No.4298455

>>4298443
most peoples eyes ARE beg tier tho!

>> No.4298465

>>4298443
>>4298455
pyw. :^)
You can even play on easy mode, you can post work from reference if you want.

>> No.4298482

>>4298432
>>4298465
the state of this board

>> No.4298485

>>4298482
I already posted my work up there >>4295981
And not a single person shitting on Han in this thread has posted their fucking work yet.
No one responded to my request to redline the OP either. If you're so much better than this professional then prove it with SOMETHING other than words.

>> No.4298488

>>4297719

i've never understood why his book gets shilled, his stuff is slightly above mediocre at best, i have none of his images saved as inspo

>> No.4298501

>>4298485
>No one responded to my request to redline the OP either.
There's nothing to redline because it looks like shit.

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>>4291257

>> No.4298520

>>4298485
I'm not sure how you could look at your own work and think "yeah, my opinion is valid".
It's the sort of naivete that's just kinda cute, but impossible to take seriously because your skill level is so far below anything that's relevant that you can just hope that you learn a thing or two in a decade.

>> No.4298523

>>4298520
Post your work.
Or redline any of Han's pieces in the thread.
One or the other.

>> No.4298529

>>4298518
kek

>> No.4298532

>>4295981
The ribs jump out at me. Too spaced out or not enough or something.

>> No.4298561

>>4298518
Already better than the original

>> No.4298563

>>4298532
You're right, there's not enough on the bottom skeleton. I just drew in a few and moved on without shooting for perfect accuracy to the reference. I think the ribs that are there look decent though. (The rib cage on the top skeleton on the other hand is completely trashed).

>> No.4298578

can someone do a redline of perspective and anatomy pls?? because i dont know whats wrong with this drawing and i want to learn

>> No.4298581

>>4298578
There’s nothing really *wrong* as far as I can see, it’s just very visually unappealing, especially in the face

>> No.4298583

>>4291257
I’m a /beg/ and am using drawabox like a fag, does anyone have similar resources that are better?

>> No.4298605

>>4298583
just read "perspective made easy" and make sure you're not scribbling but using long confident lines, thats it. FZD on youtube has good videos about sketching and drawing, many people here recommend him and i also find his material useful. dont waste time on drawabox

>> No.4298607

>>4298605
Thanks a lot, will do. Yeah I was on his imposes lines exercise so I didn’t get too far. Most of his exercises looked boring as hell anyways

>> No.4298614

>>4298607
also i just want to say that you shouldnt feel like that book is the only right one and im telling you have to read this and nothing else Lol, any tutorial/book/whatever about basic perspective you like will be ok.
yeah the imposed lines are ok, just a warmup to make sure youre not scribbling. ellipses are also alright for the same reason. the rest isnt really worth it.

>> No.4298615

>>4298607
perspective made easy can be quite grindy aswell, but at least you aren't wasting your time

>> No.4298618

>>4298615
yes true, i think its also not worth it to go through every single page. as long as youre able to draw some basic forms in 1,2 and 3 point perspective and understand it you're ok. but thankfully at least its short and easy to understand.

>> No.4298626

>>4297719
Bro I draw like 4 sketches a day. You guys found 2 of his that you can even nitpick. You're criticizing him because he isn't a god who never makes mistakes. Usually when isee him sketch he just rushes threw it and stops after a few minutes. Lol the cope in this thread is unreal. Post your luke Skywalker. Post your worst drawing of the year. And don't give any context or show us some of your better work. You have to be out of your fucking minds. This whole thread ngmi

>> No.4298631

>>4298626
>Bro I draw like 4 sketches a day
ngmi

>> No.4298732

>>4298581
as far as I can see, you need some new "eyes"

>> No.4298740

>>4298732
Redline it or stfu.
Actually if you just say "I know it's wrong but I'm not good enough to correct it" then that's fine too, there's no shame in that. But some people in this thread are acting like there's OBVIOUS problems with the anatomy/perspective and then refusing to say what they are, which is retarded.
Fwiw, the biggest problem with the Luke drawing is that the face is ugly, especially around the lips, but other than that it's fine.

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>>4298740
Here, redline this.

>> No.4298752

>>4298740
>But some people in this thread are acting like there's OBVIOUS

because it is, but when it comes to blind-ass beginners like you, there's no limit to the stupid shit people who can't draw and consequently can't SEE say, so it's better to just point out that you're a blind fucking beginner than it is to try waste our time trying to actually teach your dumb ass

hopefully you remember this in a decade or two when you're wondering why you're so shit at everything you've attempted to do artistically and wonder what the secret is that everybody else that is learning faster than you has tapped into

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>>4298741
>>4298752
but you can back it up what you say with a redline?

>> No.4298758

>>4298752
Show me the mistakes you see.

>> No.4298760

>>4296895
>chill Arab tending to his berries
>a literal box as a weapon
Based

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It isn't just that Luke's face is "ugly." Well, most of Han's work is ugly imo, but it's not because he simply likes to ugly subjects like dwarves and monsters which then bleed into his other subjects. It's that he doesn't simplify very well and he renders everything with the texture of a ratty old coat. Every imagination drawing is overloaded with detail and hatching that don't appear to describe the material or the form they're applied to. His referenced drawings actually look pretty good.
It makes sense that he'd struggle with this. Inking straight is hard, from imagination doubly so. Not many can do it well, it really should take years of dedicated practice to do even semi-competently. But it looks like he never really did that, not to the standard of KJG and Kopinski (who still mostly sketches in pencil by the way). Everything's always from the hip because he's drawing straight to ink in front of a crowd. And this is supposed to be inherently impressive. It's impressive when KJG does it because KJG draws really fucking good. I say draw in the way that produces the best result. The result is what matters, process is just showmanship. Not many can run with KJG of course, but if he didn't try so hard to be him, he wouldn't be compared to him.
If you ever look at his life and photo-referenced drawings, they're much better because duh it's better, he used a reference and took his time with it. He should do much more of that kind of thing but I realize he's making a career out of the showy stuff and nobody will care or notice outside of some 4chan degenerates with too much time on their hands.

>> No.4299271

>>4298848
>Complains that his drawings look ratty >posts two examples of drawings of rats.
Seriously, could you be more retarded?

>> No.4299307

>>4298757
>>4298758
can you guys seriously not tell if a box is in proper perspective
that's how basic bitch the things ur asking are

>> No.4299312

>>4299307
Then redline it. If it's as simple as a box being out of perspective then correct the drawing.

>> No.4299318

>>4299271
The two on the right aren’t Peter Hans’. Far right is Karl Kopinski don't know about the middle though

>> No.4299322

>>4299318
The center one is definitely Kim Jung Gi

>> No.4299342

>>4296895
What video is this from?

>> No.4299353

>>4299342
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDGDctRqFXs

>> No.4299419

>>4291456
Is your name Joe by any chance?

>> No.4299463

>>4299419
No I just got it from his twitter.

>> No.4299477

>>4299463
Ok, you could have just said yes to boost my self esteem :-(

>> No.4299488

>>4296833
So should I just stop Dynamic Sketching then? I'm like a literal beginner never drawn in my life and I wanted to do that because it's something structured to follow instead of doing things more aimlessly. I dunno I feel of learn better with structure but now I'm having second thoughts about it after reading your post.

>> No.4299520

>>4299271
I thought it was obvious the right two weren't Peter Han's drawings. They're some of the most recent pieces on KJG and Kopinski's Instagram and are better than anything Peter Han's got up. The point of the comparison is to show how those two especially KJG are better at simplifying and describing form than Han. Top row is 3 values, bottom row is black & white. Though even Kopinksi tends to get nutty with details but he straight up draws better, the details aren't just random strokes of hatching and ugly little blotches. Also "ratty" doesn't literally mean "like a rat."

>> No.4299613

>>4299488
Do whatever makes you draw, if a structured course helps you then do it. The beginning weeks that make you draw lines, circles, then basic forms was very helpful for me since those are things that can be applied to every single drawing but the rest is optional.

>> No.4299774 [DELETED] 

>>4297426
Based.

>> No.4299775

>>4291257
It's like they say: artists can either draw humans only, or everything but humans.

>> No.4299824

>>4297363
Because she is female. Women are more sensitive to peer pressure than men on average.

>> No.4299828

A lot of his stuff looks weird. But I was impressed with this demonstration. Not that the end result is amazing or anything, but he draws with a lot of confidence

>> No.4299829

>>4299828
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-8ED4DW6A0

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I looked at his instagram. He is a bit all over the place. Sometimes his works look like they're from some random anon in a draw thread

>> No.4300258

>>4299830
i think he might just have shit taste.

>> No.4300315

>>4299488
hey allow yourself o use some intuition in this process. if you feel like you arent making any progress and a course is frustrating, stop doing it. if you feel like youre improving, good, dont rely on 4chan for making important decisions for you. i think good advice here is to remember to draw something "yours" inbetween lessons, so anime girls or whatever you like, to check whether the course has been helpful at all, you know what i mean. because if you just grind the course nonstop then you will end up with a stack of papers filled with lines and drawings on insects, but you wont have drawn stuff you like in the past 3 months, and thats not good!

>>4299830
yeah hes not very good with painting unfortunately.

my general consensus is that peter isnt a hack; if anything, he lacks in some areas like appeal or dynamism. but im not blind and i cannot deny he has good skills in other areas. >>4299829 i think its a good drawing, especially that its imaginative and done with no sketch. hes also a nice helpful guy, ive met him once and hes relly not cocky at all. i am *not* claiming hes super amazing and you all are absolutely wrong, i just think its a big stretch to call him a scam or a bad artist.

i think its healthy to approach his course loosely and just not go full grinding autismo on it, dont rely on it to make you a master, this is what dude from drawabox did and we see the results. generally the problem here is people rely on courses too much and really trust the advertisement, and end up disappointed and feeling scammed.

>> No.4300319

Peter is technically very skilled but he lacks taste.
Nothing that drawing cute anime girls for a few months can't fix.

>> No.4300328

>>4300319
fucked up meatfaces and curved lightsabers are pretty much the opposite of being technically skilled

>> No.4300332

>>4299830
I’ve heard peter say he doesn’t work on anything for much longer than an hour which is extremely limiting for how far you can really take a piece with painting.

>> No.4300439

>>4300332
>he doesn’t work on anything for much longer than an hour

I can't imagine the levels of soullessness one has to reach in order to not lose yourself for hours in the creative process. Specially when you are as skilled as peter is.
sad

>> No.4300494

>>4292969
jej

>> No.4300499

>>4300439
He does what he loves, which is to sketch.

>> No.4300504

>>4300315
>i think its healthy to approach his course loosely and just not go full grinding autismo on it
I agree. Also you don't have to love someone's art work to be able to learn from them. KJG is an amazing artist but his course is many leagues below what Han teaches. KJG isn't very good at explaining anything at all beyond "just draw boxes brah" whereas Han is very articulate and he's capable of breaking down every step in the process in a digestible way so even a beginner can understand what he's doing, how he's doing it and how they can go about doing it themselves.

>> No.4300797

>>4300319
>Nothing that drawing cute anime girls for a few months can't fix.
tell me which How To Draw Manga book i should get

>> No.4300802

>>4300797
>tell me which How To Draw Manga book i should get
Aren't those considered pretty bad?
Just pick up a bunch of japanese books that look interesting to you from the anime study general and translate them using https://translate.yandex.com/ocr

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>>4299353
>I used to look up to this guy and his teachings

>> No.4300922

>>4300894
>looking up to Peter Han for poorfags

>> No.4303219

>>4291257
Soul

>> No.4303627

>>4291257
Charles Bronson as a Jedi

>> No.4303762

Peter is not a character artist, but draftsman. He said so on his twitch. I find his livestream very helpful

>> No.4303776

>>4303762
Why are you applying game production terminology to drawing?

>> No.4303950

>>4303762
>He said so on his twitch

1. that's fucking retarded reasoning
2. believing his bullshit is also fucking retarded
3. anon, I hate to break it to you, but you may be...

>> No.4303970

>>4291257
show us the result of your power of whatever method you believe in

>> No.4304004

>>4298432
>>4298442
yes dumbass it looks bad, everything looks like it's in a different perspective. I'm not saying he's a bad artist or teacher, but that's objectively a bad piece, and you have shitty noob taste.

>> No.4304052

>>4304004
Pyw or redline it. Be the first person in this 200 post thread to do one of those two things. So far no one has been brave enough.

>> No.4304053

>>4304052
be more fallacious oh wait you can't lol

>> No.4304060

>>4304053
In 200 posts none of the people shitting on Han have offered any drawings, just words. How can people not see the absurdity of this.
This board is fucking garbage.

>> No.4304065

>>4299477
I only tell the truth my son

>> No.4304077

>>4291384
Fucking pussy hiding behind artists who you'll never even reach 1/30th of.

>> No.4304082

>>4304060
in 200 posts one person (1) person who was defending peter han posted their own work and it was hard to take anybody defending han afterwards due to how fucking /beg/ that person was lol seethe

>> No.4304086

>>4292333
Are you unable to think for yourself? Come on man, exercise some autonomy.

>> No.4304096

>>4304082
If you have so much knowledge that you can obviously see why Han is bad then why are you afraid to post your own work?