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4290209 No.4290209 [Reply] [Original]

>tfw no one likes or retweets your new artwork

>> No.4290210

pyw

>> No.4290212

>>4290209
>check deviantart
>oh boy feedback!!!
>60 people gave you llama
>no favorites
>no watchers

>> No.4290216

what does your work look like

>> No.4290232

>>4290209
you wanna know why?
bacause you are a fucking crybaby and that attitude creates low tier art. grow a fucking spine and you will solve all your problems, faggot.

now stop opening retarded threads, you absolute waste of air.

>> No.4290241

>>4290232

I don't get it though. Someone with a crayon doodle or an obvious screencap can get 50 likes but I post something and it gets no attention on instagram. How the fuck do people get any kind of likes on instagram? Am I just not using tags correctly?

>> No.4290243

>>4290241
you are probably just shit. that's also the reason you are afraid of posting your art right now.
you don't just lack a spine, you also lack skills.

>> No.4290245

>>4290241
Post
Your
Work

99.9% chance no one likes you because it's shit, boring or both

>> No.4290252

>>4290245
>>4290243

Okay I get it you buttsniffers. I'm just highly misunderstood not a boring person.

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4290269

>It's another one of this threads
>"Why don't people cater to my every desire WTF FOLLOW ME AND LIKE MY STUFF AN DONATE TO MY PATREON!!"
>doesn't post his work
>obviously doesn't try to get better
>being this far up your own ass
>some other worse than /beg/ will post the same thread in a few days because 80% of this board suffer from
>"im-the-only-real-people-in-this-world-and-everyone-exists-solely-to-fulfill-my-desires-syndrome"
>tfw they will never stop shitting up the board
To any Anon thinking they matter:
You don't. Get good. Post your work and ask questions in the appropriate threads. Stop shitting up the board with your victim complex.

>> No.4290274

>>4290252
just post your work, anon. if your too scared to show people your art then you'll never succeed.

>> No.4290506

>>4290252
thanks for proving my point
>you are probably just shit. that's also the reason you are afraid of posting your art right now.

>> No.4290532

>>4290241
Post at high traffic times. 8 pm on Sunday will get no engagement. Also use tags with varying popularity (ie. some, 10k posts, 100k, 1m,). If you only use hashtags with 4million posts you stand no chance of competing with the top ones. There's less activity on smaller tags but that makes it easier to get noticed. You need a consistent style in order for people to follow you. Im going to decide in 1 second of looking at your page whether Im going to follow you or not.

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4290534

>Never use tags or give a tittle, just upload untitled and restrict anyone from adding tags
>Delete requirement tags to upload after submitting
>Still manage to get a bookmark, views and a follow

>> No.4290541

>>4290532
Okay. I've been using generic tags like "anime girl" and "eating" maybe thats why I haven't been getting anyone to notice me?
>>4290274
No you guys will just rip it apart even though I'm guaranteed better than you.

>> No.4290543

>>4290209
post links, i'll like and rt :3

>> No.4290564

>>4290541
lmao post your work kiddo
also, even bigger retards are the ones unironically giving """advice""" eventhough op is a piece of shit

>> No.4290572

>>4290541
I can assure you that you aren't better than me. I have 60k followers on twitter.
Now post your work, let me laugh, you spineless bitch.

>> No.4290695

>>4290541
post your work
>>4290572
now you also post your work

>> No.4290708

>>4290241
Step one: abandon shame and dignity and just spam the absolute fuck out of tags
Step two: follow and like artwork by people at your skill level or below. the most low effort way to wind up on people's radars.
Step three: if you're not socially inept and the above isn't enough for you, leave comments and try to make friends at/below your skill level. butter people up and they'll return the favor, especially if you're slightly better than them and they feel flattered.
Boom that's how 14 year olds doing procreate doodles of dragons are btfoing your oil paint master studies

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4290886

>>4290708
based and sociopathicpilled

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4290901

>>4290252

its ok me too thats why ill draw porn for the likes occasionally

but i still follow the weirdo's with zero likes

>> No.4291105

>>4290232
Not OP but I'm a huge crybaby and my art is dope as fuck

>> No.4291112
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4291112

>>4290269
Well?

>> No.4291124

Man I wish I would get hate towards my drawings. It's always indifference.

>> No.4291130
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4291130

>>4290209
I made a drawing today that I expected to get absolutely no likes, since it was a personal picture and I tagged it poorly, but it got two likes on Tumblr. So I'm happy.
>inb4 pyw / the pic in question
Gladly.

>> No.4291134

>>4291130
That's awesome man. That'd give me nightmares.

>> No.4291159

>>4291112
>Doesn't afraid of anything

I see why you don't have any likes or retweets.

>> No.4291166
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4291166

Alright lads. Post 'em.

>> No.4291169

>>4291166
people still use deviant art? In 2020?

>> No.4291193

>>4291112
You sure that's yours?

>> No.4291207

>>4291169
Explain why they should not use dA in 2020.

>> No.4291209

>>4291207
Not that Anon, but you could argue that DA is the facebook of art socials

>> No.4291222

>>4291112
You're leaning hard on that soggy pen. I see a face and then a mess.

>> No.4291230
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4291230

>>4291193
It's mine.
Reworking it in with GIMP at the moment

>> No.4291235

>>4291230
Maybe you should really stop making this threads.

>> No.4291246

>>4291235
But I'm not OP, lol
I just came to this thread because I have the same problems.
I've learned a tiny bit from the posts so far, but goddamn, this board is full of crawfish

>> No.4291258

>>4290212
>get favourites and comments on DA
>check their profile
>draw ponies and sonic
>almost all of their favourites are shit

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4291260

>>4291246
>talking real shit is crabbing
fuckin normies holy shit

>> No.4291304

>>4291230
Oh it's not a pen but a pencil. Try another pass and making that second or third drawing your final piece and not your first finish.

>> No.4291367

>>4291258
The worst one of all is
>someone favorites your work
>check their profile
>in less than 1 minute they already have 20 favorites buried on top of your art meaning they possibly couldn't consume your work
>see their comment box
>spam of "thanks for the fav ^___^"

>> No.4291410

>>4291304
Thank you for actual advice, anon. It's just a sketch, but I'm currently working on it.
>>4291260
>real shit
post your art then

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4291500

>>4291410
>hurr pyw durr
im not the one bitching and crying about likes

>> No.4291506

>>4291500
uhm yikes

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4291526

>>4291500
>bbcchan study

>> No.4291532

>>4290209
I'll lick your cunny and comfort you, anon

>> No.4291550

>>4291500
studies aren't considered your own actual work, anon. it's a lot easier to make a good looking study than your own stuff.

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4291585

>>4291500
>bbchan study

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4291651

>average 20 likes/5 rts
>make one post that gets 500 likes/200 rts
>everything posted afterwards goes back to 20 likes/5 rts

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4291680

>>4291651
Fuck i know this feel

>> No.4291683

>>4290695
>now you also post your work
I'm not the one crying like a pussy. I don't have to prove anything to anyone. I'm comfy af.

>> No.4291684

>>4290708
>>4290886
Except you need none of that if you are a good artist with a fast turnaround.

>> No.4291686

>>4291105
Sure it is kek.
That's why you just posted it, right.
lmao

>> No.4291688

>>4291112
Haha, yeah no, this is utter shit lol.

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4291703

>>4290210
FPBP

>> No.4291939
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4291939

>>4291506
>>4291526
>>4291550
>>4291585
>don't ptw
>foaming this hard
>this never fails
>every
>fucking
>time
>mfw crab soup
this is hilarious
at least i put out something i made with my own hands even when i didn't have to
now go make threads and turn this board into /r9k/ but for art faggots
i want to feel sorry for myself and blame others instead of drawing when i wake up

>> No.4291967

>>4291939
StudiesAreNotYourOwnWork

>> No.4291972

>>4291939
>melting down this hard
yikes

>> No.4291978

>>4291159
hownew.ru

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4291979

>considered 10k+ as a post doing well
>recently been hitting 30k to even 50k
>feel too much pressure to keep up these numbers

>> No.4291981

>>4291979
pyw
and dont make up a shitty excuse not to, especially after posting that humblebrag

>> No.4291982

>>4291979
The only numbers that should concern you are the ones on your bank account.

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4291985

>>4291967
So is everything you draw if it already exists in one shape or another
Don't you get it how im mirroring your behavior or do you need a scientific paper on how you retards are huge fucking faggots?
>>4291972
ok fellow real human

>> No.4291992

>>4291981
Nay
I will say I am still pretty much /beg/ however

>> No.4291993

>>4291985
>IM NOT MAD IM NOT MAD IM NOT MAD

no amount of smiling images will make the pain go away honeybuns

>> No.4291994

>>4291992
pyw cunt
are you that 16 year old who got big because people have shit taste and like little fucking round head neon cartoon garbage

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4291995

>>4291993
hello schizophrenia

>> No.4292008

>>4291683
Ok pussy pyw.

>> No.4292012

>>4291994
Lead by example dipshit.

>> No.4292021

>>4290209
Ditto, but I'm a garbage artist that rarely posts. It's kind of expected.

>> No.4292089

>>4292021
Admitting your own fault? pyw so i can feel better about myself

>> No.4292106

>>4291112
Wow anon I can barely see whats what. So much clutter. Is it fantasy? Sci-fi? Is he a knight or a stormtrooper? No wonder you dont get any likes

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4292122

>decide to start posting on dA too
>post most of the old work
>very few favorites or even times the pieces were seen
>have one favorite on the old mermay pic with like fish-like monster mermaids
>this guy left comment too
>"I LOVE the look of the arm membranes & webbed fingers!! Cool tails, too!!"
>decide to check out his page
>it's all naked women with gills, fins, membranes etc.
>existence was a mistake

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4292130

>someone favorites your work
>look at their profile
>1000000000 "favorites"

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4292155

>>4292122
Dude that's the same guy that gave me my one and only comment I ever got, also on a mermaid. Fucking kek.

>> No.4292173

>>4290252

>>4290243
Did not say anything about you being boring

>>4290245
He said that your artwork is most probably boring not that you are most probably boring as a person

>> No.4292182

>>4291112
Its decent to good in terms of technical skill but the armour thing is too cluttered and makes it hard to look at
You need to work on simplfing that armour.

1.Its too complex
2.The compexity of the armour is jarring in comparison to the more anime like face

>> No.4292311

>>4290209
Do you actually interact with anyone? Have you commented on or drawn art for other artists? Do you just post the picture or do you include any text or message along with it?

You can't ignore the "social" part of social media unless you're extremely good.

>> No.4292317

>>4290209
This board really is full of crabs, huh? Only ever ask for people to pyw just to tell them they’re not that good or just terrible.
I’m not saying you should praise everything, but it’s embarrassing how often people leap to accentuate the negative as if they know any better.
We are all trash here. We can at least clean up the way we act.

>> No.4292319

>>4292317
But then i won't feel better than anyone else and can't drown my crippling insecurity.
Jokes aside, i fully agree with you, but it's really asking too much from the creatures here.

>> No.4292343

>>4292317
at last you see the flaw in having a skill oriented board where nobody is required to have a portfolio, so you dont know who is actually giving good advice. go ahead, peruse /ic/ and count the images you actually like (that obviously arent famous works). our most active thread is /beg/, and you know of course thats not a bad thing thats not what im saying. but then everyone is spitting out knowitall "critique" and pretending they were better, it doesnt add up. on any other site if an mspaint diaperfur gave me advice, that he cannot backup in his own works, i could disregard it because he proved he didnt know what he was talking about. i realized this not too long ago, great board for a start but not for breaking plateaus. in fact, i dont remember ever seeing critique on this board, everyone including me is so fucking scared of posting their work since they just get attacked and nitpicked rather than redlined. really need to look for something better

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4292368

>>4292343
>everyone including me is so fucking scared of posting their work since they just get attacked and nitpicked rather than redlined
No one even reply when i post my work

>> No.4292376

>>4292368
It’s the best way of knowing you’re mediocre, if anything. Not good enough to knock down a peg and not bad enough to laugh at.
I say this, because I’m usually in the same place.

>> No.4292400

>>4292343
>everyone including me is so fucking scared of posting their work since they just get attacked and nitpicked rather than redlined. really need to look for something better

Lets be the change we want to see

>> No.4292459

>>4292400
>be Anon
>pyw
>get helpful advice
>actual critique
>YOU SAID A BAD WORD I DONT LIKE U MUST BE CRABB U JUST JELOUAS PYW
>no wonder everyone just doesn't give a shit anymore
You can't have a less toxic environment with this many retards still roaming around
Anons tried countless times
it's futile

>> No.4292508

>>4292459
Excuses excuses. Look at most of the “crits” anons give. Do you really think they ever tried being constructive? I doubt it. The board has a toxic culture. Be honest about it.

>> No.4292515

>>4292459
I posted my work here numerous times and each time I legit btfo everyone and was accused of tracing. I don't need to prove anything to any of you losers here.

>> No.4292525

>>4292343
>scared of posting their work since they just get attacked and nitpicked rather than redlined.
Why are you afraid of posting your material? Are you that attached to your work that it would devastate you if somebody made a negative remark? If that's the case you are hindering yourself from improving, what you're really afraid of is failure and fear is a mind killer. You're never going to perfect the craft, if everyone was so bent on being perfect they'll never finish a piece and it would put them in a rut. Perfection hinders progress you will never be perfect so expect to fail and learn from it you only truly fail if you continue doing the same mistakes.

>> No.4292527

>>4291112
>>4291230
Link the tweet when you're done

>> No.4292528

>>4292459
Whenever someone gives helpful critiques and/or redlines there are a ton of positive responses, even if there is someone shitting on them I think that's enough incentive. Someone who gave me a paintover once told me that the positive responses and gratitude are the sole reason why he does these.

>> No.4292536

>>4292528
Basically. Anyone here is more than happy to get constructive criticism. It’s just most of what you get here is unhelpful snark and crabbery.

>> No.4292545

>>4292525
>projecting
i am scared but i have posted several times, i want to improve and know i am in danger of getting comfortable. its never been productive though, even though i spend hours on my post alone to keep it meaningful, looking for the right words and questions to things im specifically unsure about. and rather i get responses for things that will obviously get better with time like linework (without even mentioning a strategy to mend it), or given blanket bullshit like 'looks weird'. the last time i posted was bookwork and the only critique i got was "looks stupid lole use refs" and so i posted my refs, from the book, and was called defensive and 'muh style' repeated for 2 days from 3 different posters

>> No.4292550

>>4292545
I understand the anxiety of posting work to /ic/ too, I've has my fair share of verbal thrashings here. Find a discord community instead, you'll usually find better feedback in those. I think the las discord has probably given the best crit of anywhere, but there are other decent ones too, most are better than /ic/ itself.

>> No.4292551

>>4292122
Oh shit, I know that guy too, he also commented on my mermaid pic. At he seemed to commission lots of artists to illustrate mermaids lol

>> No.4292552

>>4291684
keep dreaming

>> No.4292564

>>4292545
>>4292550
>Anxiety
>On a wonderful world of an anonymous blue bear inflation fan club & fedora tipping enthusiasts.
You're actually validating the safespaces, the special snowflakes, and the tumblr arguments. It's no wonder this board is chock full of either limp dicked effeminate soibois or cunts on their time of the month with sand in their baginas. You wonder why we're always so "crabby" all the time? Because I just provided you with a well thought out reply and an analysis identifying your issue and how to possibly handle it and you faggots reply with this bullshit.

This is why nobody goes out their way to provide feedback anymore it is all moot.

>> No.4292569

>>4292564
What the fuck have i been saying
>>4292459

>> No.4292573

>>4292552
Speaking from experience.

I'm not gonna post my work, GTFO.

>> No.4292587

>>4290212
>check Twitter
>4 new notifications
>'In case you missed Anon's tweet'
I'll give this website one more month max.

>> No.4292588

>>4292564
Dude, if they don’t take the criticism well, that’s their problem.
Doesn’t mean being constructive should go out the window.
You aren’t being oppressed by their reactions to legit feedback.

>> No.4292591

>>4292564
>anonymous
>posting your work
contradictory, which is exactly why i get anxious posting mine, because i know the most virile, actually anonymous, shitposters will respond, trying to make a fool out of me, playing against me. i dont want to be tied to that, anytime i post my work i feel like i need to spend hours on each post wording it right so people wont just purposefully misinterpret me. during which time im not drawing. even right now im worried im being such a faggot people might even have a profile on me and might give me a wacky name to blindly namecall random autists who might share my opinion, and judge me the next time i try to post my works

account sites arent anonymous so this is still a pproblem. but the person critiquing also isnt anonymous so they too filter themselves which keeps me from making as big a fool of myself. or thats the idea, again i dont use anything else but i think i should for art at least

>> No.4292603

>Post work
>"it is bad"
>Ask for elaboration
>No response, or get told I'm retarded
I think it's kind of silly to pretend there is not any issue with the critique usually presented on /ic/. There are many thin skinned people who lash out to mild criticism, but there are more who give unhelpful or crabby feedback. It's so ingrained into /ic/'s culture at this point I think if you don't want to deal with useless feedback, you might as well just stop posting your work here, as I doubt the culture will change radically any time soon.

>> No.4292613

>>4292591
i fully understand that feeling
i once posted my work, got bullied by everyone, got other anons pretending to be me, others anon painted over my work still making fun of me
i deleted all my stuff everywhere and then i start seeing artwork that looks awfully familiar to the one i posted
hell, there was even a guy who outright traced my shit not even a week ago
i despise this place

>> No.4292619

>>4292591
I can see where you’re coming from, a little. On the times that I’ve posted my work, anons have actually insulted me when thinking they were talking to someone else. People here develop reputations.

That said, don’t be too nervous about posting on account sites. If you act polite, no one’s going to come at you. Same for here, if you act right.

>> No.4292620

if you can't average at least 500 likes for coomer anime titty artwork, you're still bad

>> No.4292631

>>4292620
Or in need of better promotion.

>> No.4292680

>>4290209
>he draws for likes
Yikes

>> No.4292752

>>4292376
>It’s the best way of knowing you’re mediocre,
I don't agree with this. I've seen a handful of posters with creative potential that get zero feedback, sometimes maybe 1 reply.

I see many posters drawing trendy or fetish stuff get more feedback.

>> No.4292776

I've noticed the things I force never get as much attention.
The flowing 3 hour rkgk gets 400+ likes
The 3 days 'try hard' image with multiple corrections gets 200.

Going back and correcting a mistake just makes the picture more rigid. Without fail, it feels like.
Gonna start a new rule. Either I go with the very first thing I draw, or nothing at all.

>> No.4292829

>>4292776
>Either I go with the very first thing I draw
You should always do that unless you have a very clear image in your head about what you really want on paper
Don't get fixated on farming likes though
it only kills the creative drive

>> No.4292850

>>4292089
I have very little that isn't content-banned here.

>> No.4292863

>>4292587
uncheck all push notifcations in settings. Except for DMs and new followers, if you perfer to see those.
I havent got one of those "look what you missed" notifcations since.

>> No.4293094

>>4292863
Does this also block like and RT notifications? Because right now I'm not big enough to not care about single likes and RTs. But I'll definitely keep this in mind once I'm at constant double or even triple digit interactions.

>> No.4293101

>>4292619
For fuck sakes just post your work nobody gives a shit about you or whether or not you hurt someone else's fee-fee's. Unless you are a high profile that has a job at a reputable studio and posting here may compromise your position because somebody may recognize you from your workflow that is understandable but I doubt you are working for Universal Studies or Disney. Nobody has a reputation here, we're all supposed to be Anonymous and the only faggots that throw names out there are those who are trying to socialize instead which is pathetic considering there's a plethora of other sites that caters to their attention depravity.

>> No.4293130

>>4293101
Dude I've seen people here who post anonymously get called out by name.

Also, I think you meant to reply to the other anon.

>> No.4293152

>>4293130
They get called out by name because they've unfortunately amassed a following of fanboys. I should have phrased it that nobody here is trying to build a reputation. The point i'm trying to get across is if someone asks you to post work don't be afraid to do it at least you'll show that you're not just here to shitpost and maybe you'll learn something new and get a critique on the spot by doing so.

But if you have bouts of anxiety and start literally shaking at the thought of posting your work here just what the fuck are you doing here to begin with?

>> No.4293203

>>4293152
there are good resources and you can ask questions that sometimes get answers. i find that far more successful than posting work and then asking questions, because people seem to just look at an image and then type the first thought that comes to their mind which is rarely productive

>> No.4293900

>>4291112
I see you have a lot of potential. But there's so much that makes this appear weak. Make sure people can mostly "get it" at a glance. Keep in mind people are probably scrolling and glancing at your tiny thumbnail. Make it readable quickly.
A few bright colors might help. Maybe some planes of dark shading to show the form of the complex armor, since it's the hardest part to understand. Having the original pencil drawing is something i only understood by reading this thread, so it makes no sense as a compositional element and just further confuses me.
Due to the nature of social media, you really want to communicate a "the point" quickly. The viewer needs to glance at your work and within seconds get: a mood, something of a "story" (who is this? What am I seeing? Can I tell what the backstory is?), and a general composition that is appealing.

>> No.4294106

>>4290209
>not much traffic whenever I post new drawings
>decided to stop entirely because there's no point
>after a month one of the 5 guys who always like and RT my drawings asks when I will post new stuff
Strange feel.

>> No.4294882

>>4294106
You have loyal followers, no matter how few there may be.
It's from there that something greater emerges. Give it time. Don't give up.

>> No.4294942

>>4290209
Not even one like on IG, social media just suck.

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>>4290209
>People do like your work.
>There's no bridge to the artists you like unless you're direct about it.

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>>4294971
>Follow an artist you like
>Leave some nice comments on their art
>They follow you pack and start talking to you
Don't be shy, anon.

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>mutual unfollows you and then blocks you two weeks later

>> No.4295472

>>4291985
how do you not see the difference between a study and actually creating something

>> No.4295474

>>4291112
How does one avoid making their shit look so cluttered and indecipherable? I haven't run into the issue yet, but I never want to.

>> No.4295487
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4295487

>social media

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>>4290245
>>4290269

Ok so I'm not Op but I been wondering this for quite a while, it's my art unappealing, boring or ugly? This is what my Instagram feed looks like, I know I still have a lot to learn but I've seen people with a similar skill level to mine get a lot of attention and feedback and meanwhile on Twitter I'm absolutely ignored and on Instagram the post that has most likes is the one of the redhead girl with 53 likes. Do I need to do more interesting stuff, more variety in themes and style, get better technique or am I just unlucky?

>> No.4295524

>>4290209
>post something in newgrounds
>post something else in newgrounds and check the previous drawing
>2 starts out of 5
its fine, im not expecting a 5 out of 5 or 4 out of 5, but you know, some feedback could be useful.

>> No.4295695

>>4295505
your style is passable for instagram. definitely add more tags or better yet start drawing fan art.

>> No.4295723

>>4295505
The most interesting pieces are your more stylized pieces (in my opinion anyway) - the portraits just look like studies and you still need to improve a lot.

>> No.4296224
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4296224

>>4295524
at least you're getting votes
>post on ng
>totally ignored
>go to new art
>everything clicked off except E
>f5 the shit out of it
>see my shit being there for 5 whole minutes
>other worse than beg fanart gets posted
>ok
>titties get posted
>sometimes full A or M but rated E
>1846384 views within a second
>46846346 favorites
>6/5 for some mspaint shit
>report it because obviously abusing ratings and the slow system
>report it because it has links to nsfw
>give 1 star
>sometimes it stays on forever sometimes it gets fixed
>mfw i hope i get some faggots banned
use the right tags and ratings instead of going full sociopath to get famous with your anime titties you fucking degenerate

>> No.4296238

>be in community discord
>post fanart
>no comments at all
>literally anybody else posts anything
>instant dick sucking

>> No.4296723

>>4295505
>semi realistic portraits and anime
What you're probably doing wrong is not marketing yourself enough.
Normies usually love this bland consumer crap.
>Do I need to do more interesting stuff, more variety in themes and style, get better technique or am I just unlucky?
Spam your socials everywhere, comments on other people's stuff and like everything.
Just do a sociopath and you're good.
But this is basically your max skill level if you choose not to apply yourself but focus on socials.
I can tell that your Gengar is your only original piece, if even.

>> No.4296992

>>4295695
>your style is passable for instagram
Does this mean that I'm bad for anything else or what?
>definitely add more tags or better yet start drawing fan art.
I think I add a lot of tags, going to add more next time and I already do some fan art but I'll try to do more in the future, thanks.

>>4295723
>the portraits just look like studies and you still need to improve a lot
The acrylic one was a light study, the watercolor ones are gifts for my friends, it would help a lot if you pointed out in which things do I need to improve but thanks anyway.

>>4296723
>But this is basically your max skill level if you choose not to apply yourself but focus on socials
I did art mostly as a hobby before, but I'm trying to get more serious in the past few years, I'm starting to learn perspective for interiors, landscapes and how to do proper backgrounds. I'm going to learn 2D/3D animation and Illustration at college this year.


>I can tell that your Gengar is your only original piece, if even.
What do you mean by that? All of the other post are from imagination if that's what you are trying to point out, some more heavily referenced than others but still from imagination. The only ones that are a direct copy from photographs are the watercolor portraits of my friends (except the backgrounds that's why they look like shit).

>> No.4297078

>>4294882
I gave it more than half a year of actively posting, posting at the right times and drawing more relevant stuff. How much longer do I have to wait for something to happen?

>> No.4297094

>>4297078
>6 months
years probably
Don't think you're gonna be forever famous overnight
And even if you get overnight success, it's just one day
You should nurture whatever bond you have gotten so it can grow into something bigger

>> No.4298389

>>4297094
>years probably
I've been posting my art for 3 years. I tried to tryhard my way into relevancy for 6 months without much effect.
>Don't think you're gonna be forever famous overnight
I don't expect to become some famous artist that everyone in the art scene knows off in a couple of days. I don't even aspire to become that famous at all. But it'd be nice if I could reach more people.
>You should nurture whatever bond you have gotten so it can grow into something bigger
This may sound kinda shitty of me now, but I feel like the majority of those people support me because I frequently draw their direct requests on stream or on my site.
Maybe I'll just find some really obscure fetish or fandom with only one or two big dedicated artist around and gather a bulk of followers from drawing that stuff.

>> No.4298557

>>4298389
You draw nsfw? Then the story is different.
Maybe what you lack is in your work, i assume.
Something that makes your picture stand out from the rest.
I'd say post your work but what have you been overall and specifically doing that it isn't working despite your efforts?

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>>4290209
what a delusional thread lmao.
Did y'all think you will get social media points just because you draw? people don't give a fuck about how much time you spend practicing or studying from books lmao
all they care is good art or at least appealing but you lack that, go ahead and continue to pander a bunch of anons who don't even draw, push your art to more "realistic" proportions instead of something appealing and left art in a year, you waste your time the way you want.

>> No.4299202

>>4292515
Not trying to shit on you anon but mind posting your work?

>> No.4299223

>>4293101
Your a fucking idiot if you think people that post here consistently don't get dedicated shitposters. I've seen about 3 other artist outside the big name pornfags that where better then most, run off because they had dedicated shitposters always following them.

If your not doing cutesy anime shit, it always seems to attract retards with too much time on their hands. This place is a shithole that attracts the dregs of society, your an idiot if you think your able to form any meaningful, positive community long term. All it takes is one retard with too much time on his hands.

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4299227

>tfw you don't even like your own art

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4299238

>>4290209
>tfw around people at your skill level.
>tfw all of them but you rarely or never draw.

>> No.4299632

>>4294942
It's more likely that your art sucks.

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>>4290209

>> No.4301772

>>4292130
man i fucking hate these

>> No.4301773

ngmi

>> No.4302602
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4302602

>>4292603
>>Post work
>>"it is bad"
>>Ask for elaboration
>>No response, or get told I'm retarded
If valid, means you need all-around improvement

>> No.4302613

>>4302602
More like most anons on /ic/ have no idea what they're talking about

>> No.4304851

>>4290209
>only 6 followers
>no fucking idea what I'm doing wrong

>> No.4305130

>>4304851
pyw I'll tell you whats wrong :)

>> No.4305187

>>4302613
What a non-statement and a half.
>if valid

>> No.4305516

>>4291367
Or their art is all stolen. That being said, I've had a few cases where they actually leave comments but I don't really know what to do beyond this.

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4305759

>>4305130
Pls bully me

>> No.4305767

>>4290209
>using Twitter to post art
I hope misfortune comes to you or anyone else who does this.

>> No.4305768

>>4305767
>anyone else who does this.
You mean almost every artist nowadays?
I'm not happy about it either, but Twitter is where the audience is.

>> No.4305788

>>4290209
Post your work senpai I'm sure it's nice

>> No.4305795

>>4291112
Looks cool senpai. Keep it up !

>> No.4306229

>>4305759
boring
not particularly bad, but doesn't have much going for it either

>> No.4306272

>>4292122
I love dA autists. They're batshit but harmless.

>> No.4306284

>>4306229
>boring
Any tips on how to make it more interesting?

>> No.4306306

>>4305759
I'd say there are three major areas you're lacking in, skill, intent, and polish. I feel you should try to think about all three of these areas to make art that will be appealing to the average person
Skill is self-explanatory. You need a decent understanding of art to make art people will like. You don't need to be a pro in every respect, but you need to hone in a few areas to make your intent shine through. For example, many cartoon artists focus on shape, gesture, and color with little knowledge of anatomy and are still able to make art that is appealing to many people through doing that.
Next is intent, which goes hand-in-hand with skill. You could call intent "style" or the "feeling" of a piece. You are drawing a witch, but what specific idea about this witch are we supposed to understand from this piece? Is she sweet and innocent? Is she mischievous? Is she lewd? Style plays a big part in intent, because style is the way in which the message of the piece is conveyed. For example, a witch drawn in a western rubberhose style would give a very different impression than a witch drawn in a moe anime style. You style is very important on social media, as it is what marks your work as yours, there are many good artists you are the only artist who draws just like *you,* so style is the reason many people will become interested in your work.
Polish is just being able to make works that look complete and presentable. Color works usually get more attention than uncolored sketches, for example. You don't need to go all-out on every piece, but you should get to a presentable level of quality for the majority of them. Try looking at other artists who you aim to be like to see how finished they try to make their work. In general, stuff like pencil sketches get a lot less attention. Even doing something like doing b/w inks would help make this piece more attractive to the average user.

>> No.4306313
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4306313

Hey I want critique too. Only get a couple of likes on each my pieces

>> No.4306340

>>4306284
for one, clean up your presentation.
dark flat photo makes it look very unappealing to look at.
try scanning and cleaning up your drawing before sharing. or at the very least take a better photo in a properly lit room.

>> No.4306343

>>4305767
so 80% of people?

>> No.4306466

>>4306313
Legit question: Are you 12 or do you have autism?

>> No.4306469

>>4290209
>tfw when your only social media presence is facebook and you have 50 friends

>> No.4306552

>>4306469
that's pretty comfy number tho.
you aren't bombarded by useless shit on your feed or constantly worrying about comparing likes

>> No.4306553

>>4306306
>>4306340
Thank you very much, I'll pay more attention to those.

>> No.4306838

>>4306466
No im 25

>> No.4306860

>>4306838
So you either have autism or some other major mental illness.

>> No.4306876

>>4306860

Mental illness is not a hinderance in art or design. Ir often enhances it even.

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4306878

>>4306876
Sure thing

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>>4306878
My stuff is cohesive and original at least. I have gotten compliments from regular people to art proffessors.

>> No.4306929
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>>4306884
Original doesn't equal good.
Seriously, looking at your stuff you'd think a kid made it.
It's not even worth the effort and backlash of telling a child his "art" is shit.
I get the feeling of being proud of your creations, but you can't just take a shit on the streets in front of everyone and complain when people avoid you or try to erase the memory of you from their minds.
One can't even properly criticize your stuff because i don't even know wtf i am looking at.
And i really don't believe you're baiting either.
This is legit autism.

>> No.4306930

>>4306884
stop making shitty sculptures and start drawing anon. I can already tell you aren't that good at drawing and if you don't want to be living with your parents at 30 I suggest you get crackin

>> No.4306948

>>4306929
>Seriously, looking at your stuff you'd think a kid made it.

>One can't even properly criticize your stuff because i don't even know wtf i am looking at.

I take those as a compliment thank you.

>I can already tell you aren't that good at drawing and if you don't want to be living with your parents at 30 I suggest you get crackin

So there is hope for me right? I suspected as much. I never tried practizing the fundementals, just do stuff as I go along. I should probably learn.

The Ideas are good, but I am too impatient.

>> No.4306953

>>4306884
From just a pure technical level this looks really bad. The paintjob is messy and uneven, and all the patterns are really sloppily done. I'm not a sculptor, but getting even paint was stuff I learned in HS art class, you really gotta push yourself more, and hold yourself to higher standards my man.

>> No.4306954

>>4306948
Forcing ignorance and taking a clear insult as a compliment does not make it no longer insulting, it just makes you willfully stupid

>> No.4306957

>>4306948
what do you expect if you never tried practicing? You're actually ngmi with that attitude. Start drawing now, and maybe in 10 years you'll make it.

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4306967

>>4306948
>Wants critique
>hurr im just gon b a stupid fag and make up excuses durr
I should stop interacting with beglets

>> No.4307052

>>4306967
Dude, the guy is literally mentally ill, don't put this on all /beg/s

>> No.4307071

>>4307052
You're right but it's most of the time with these people. You can only have so many mentally ill begs until you start to see a pattern.

>> No.4307073

>>4306876
>Mental illness is not a hinderance in art or design
hahahahahaha

>> No.4307094

>do a polished, full color illustration, spend 10+ hours on it
15 views, 0 likes

>post a 15-minute sketch
200 views, 30 likes

Sometimes I hate putting effort in things

>> No.4307131

Not op but, which platform can reach a bigger public, pixiv or dA?

>> No.4307135

>>4307131
depends on what type of art you do.
The obvious answer of course is: why not use both?

>> No.4307169

>>4290209
i have a different problem. people see my art but they NEVER follow me.
my last post had 200 rts and almost 1000 likes but just one person followed.
what do?

>> No.4307171

>>4306967
>>4307052
>>4307071
>>4307073

Yes, I am mentally ill. But not autism. It's social anxiety. I have failed at life, and live in social country in Europe where I live in supervised living.

The things from preventing to killing myself is that several people, including professionals, teachers and other authorities (tbf social workers like a painting therapist) told that I have a creative talent.

These few likes I get on Instagram and my unstable mentally ill GF are the only thing in my life right now.

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4307179

>>4307171

I have been way too modest my whole life, that's why my therapist that I should stand up for my shit for my own health, That's why I acted this way.

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4307181

more of my stuff

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4307182

>>4307181

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>>4307182

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>>4307184

>> No.4307187

>>4307094
>he draws for likes

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>>4307185

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>>4307192
so that is the last one...

sorry for my....

AUTSIM?!?!?!?

bwahahahahah

https://www.instagram.com/afoch_design/

>> No.4307196

>>4307184
this one looks pretty cool

>> No.4307201
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4307201

>>4307196
thanks...this cute little creature I am pretty proud of.

>> No.4307306

Unless your art is already of a certain quality it'll be hard to capture peoples' attention with generic pin up work. Make your work memorable and interesting to look at, comics are the easiest way at making people look at your work for more than a second.

>> No.4307313

>>4307201
it's cute anon, keep going.

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4307336

>tfw no social media so no one retweeting my artwork isn't an issue

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4307345

>mfw no one likes or retweets YOUR new artwork

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4307875

>>4307171
>>4307171
>muh soshial ansiateh
>luk @ me and how much of a victim i am
>my art is not shit cuz ppl told me its not why are you critiquing me i asked for praise and not for how to get better
if i had a quarter every time some retard on this fucking board wrote this shit, i'd be a fucking billionaire by now
I can play that card too but i'd rather kill myself than try to get pity from other Anons as an excuse as to why my work is garbage
you asked for critique you got it
now you fucked this up too
not even luck will help you now, you pathetic retard
gtfo my board

>> No.4307879

>>4307875
can someone explain why the shadow on her nose looks so weird? If this wasn't professional work I'd say it's wrong.

>> No.4307881

>>4307879
think about how light from different directions may affect the facial features and then give me an answer

>> No.4307954

>>4307881
Is the answer that there are two light sources, one from below and slightly left and one from the top, slightly more left?

>> No.4307986

>>4307169
you may need to be more consistent (quality and content-wise) for a while with what you post. people may like the work but check your gallery and see that your other posts aren't similar or of the same interest. either that, or they are "following" you vicariously through the people who are actually following you who retweet your stuff fairly consistently, and so have no need to follow you directly.

>> No.4308081

>>4307181
Schönes Bild! Ich mag das.

>> No.4308102

>>4308081
>Ich mag das.
Not a very smooth sentence mister foreigner, you'd rather say something like "Gefällt mir" or if you want the same structure "Ich mag es"(still sounds a bit weird but not as much)

>> No.4308133

>>4307954
left side slightly from below
imagine it like a flashlight for "dramatic lighting"
The image implies that she is looking down on a person from above,
Sure there are inconsistencies regarding how real light would behave but it's an artistic expression and the combination with the art style more than anything else

>> No.4308142

>>4308133
Hm the tilted-down head makes a bit more sense, but I still don't really see how the nose shadow can be like this. I guess I'm just not there yet.

>> No.4308152

>>4308102
Bin kein Ausländer, hab nur auch Autismus ;3

>> No.4308195

>>4308142
Its not the head that's tilted down, its the pov.
If you don't understand it, try replicating it yourself in front of a mirror.

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4308221

>>4308195
If you are talking about the pov then I am back at square one, I already knew that part. After doing this, I feel like an absolute beginner again.

>> No.4308265 [DELETED] 

>>4290532
I wonder,what do is a high traffic time for your time zone(and what is your time zone)

>> No.4308267

>>4290532
I wonder,what would you consider an high traffic time for your time zone(and what is your time zone?)

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4308268

>>4308221
Well then, how should that shadow look like?
But keep in mind the art style and the context and the emotion it tries to convey
If we were going to nitpick everything to be realistic, there are other parts wich are also left out or shaded incorrectly like the neck, hair and forehead.
The light source comes from a different angle than the pov
cheeks are shaded as circles
and anime noses are simply triangles
hope pic related makes sense

>> No.4308286

>>4308268
The shaded as triangles part definitely helps, but the nostrils are still a bit off, right? Thanks a lot for the help btw.

>> No.4308308

>>4308286
yeah, nostrils seem a bit off but it won't bother unless you're picking this apart like right now
It works as a still image, like in the case of comics, but not as a standalone artwork.
No problem, i always help those who want to learn

>> No.4309269

>>4290541
>tags: me eating anime girls
based