/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>4280910
is that a drug addict?

>>4280910

Why does she look like she's been doing meth, anon.

>>4280923
>>4280915
What a pathetic attempt at samefagging

>>4280934
seethe harder faggot

>>4280910
Might look better if she looked like she had eyes instead of a void

>>4280934
>Retarded /beg/

how long does it take to stop being dogshit at drawing?

>>4280948
fuggg forgot to attach the pic

>>4280949
when you stop drawing on toilet paper

My everything is shit and I want to give up. Even with references this is the best I can do. I've been drawing for a year now and nothing.

>>4280948
To long to focus on it so I'd recommend focusing on the process and avoid getting to caught up in the end goal because it will likely frustrate you endlessly.

>>4280968

I hope you don't give up, anon. Yes, there are always things that you can improve on, but drawing art well requires you to work on a number of things seemingly simultaneously before a picture becomes "good." You're upset because you've been drawing for a year and you're not more advanced in your opinion, and yet look at what you've done so far. No regular normie would be able to draw that.

Hey, I’m a very beginner artist. I understand it’s complete shit and I am quiet scare to show anything I do because it’s 4chan. But, I went to the big sticky and just attempted to the the Igor Stravinsky upside down exercise. Completely fucked up the proportions and shit so I stopped half way. I decided to just do the head upside down and got this beautiful masterpiece.

>>4280822
You are correct that the model was leaning her head back. But regardless the skull itself came out too small. Can't be bothered to fix it so I'll leave it for now.
>>4280932
What do yo mean?

>>4280968
>>4280972
Aye, look at mine. It’s god awful compared to yours. Keep it up, you can do it.

>>4280949
Literally just watch some anime and/or hentai and you'll improve anatomy dramatically. It still won't be good but it'll be 1000x better than what you have now.

>>4280972
But did you feel your brain switch into an observing mode? That's the point of the exercise. To rid yourself of drawing platonic ideas of things.

>>4280978
I actually do. I’ll give it another try and I’ll do the whole body.

>>4280968
Did you constantly draw for a year? If not your current progression is expected. From what I can see you lack the very basic fundamentals, so I doubt that you been practicing enough or at all.

Does anyone know of a better way to visualize drawing the z axis lines? I feel retarded but i seriously cannot grasp how tf you draw this axis

>>4280982
People tell me to practice my fundamentals, value, perspective, ect, but I never know how to practice efficiently. I have entire stacks of paper of drawing geometric shapes in perspective forms but when I try to apply it to a human figure It never looks right. Nothing I ever make looks proportional.

I have not been drawing super consistently. There will be times where I just stop because I feel like I'm not making progress only to start back up again. I guess that's part of the problem.

literally spent whole day drawing and came up with two sketches

it's not like I was struggling with motivation, I'm just the slowest fuck in the entire world

I've just recently taken up painting, what with access to an iPad and procreate. I've been posting (admittedly crappy) drawings from my phone for years, but now I'm looking to become more serious as an artist. I'd like some advice, as I'm sure I could use some improvement.

>>4281037
More shadows, it's flat, even though I see you tried to change values of some of the parts, it needs some dark contrast, like under the Right cymbal and between the high hat there needs to be a darker yellow almost black. Also drums have more knobs on them to tighten and tune. Don't be scared to put more paint on the canvas, I can still see the canvas and the strokes are blended together. Basically go over it all again and add some dark deep tones.

Just posting here because I'm very frustrated. I really hate my lines. No matter what I do I just dislike them. Everyone else has nice lines even if they're messy or not. Is it really the lines? Does it come naturally or what? Should I be actively working toward it? I'm not sure what to make out of this. I'm not even sure what I want anymore.

>>4281043
I'll take this all into consideration. Thank you very much.

>>4281044
I think you just need a thiccer and more varied stroke, like the ones on the bottom right's "lines" look dope.

>>4281044
>guys look at how bad I am please tell me I'm wrong

How do I practive perspective, and my other fundies then transfer that shit to figure drawing.

>>4281055

>>4281050
That's not really an aesthetic I like. Actually that's what I'm trying to avoid. I tend to use the whole dynamic range in a single stroke. I get the feeling people only press hard in very specific parts. Maybe it depends on the brush too. I don't know.

>>4281054
Why would I fish for for compliments in 4chan of all places, you mongoloid?

>>4281055
>try to draw a girl seen from above
>realize you dont know shit about perspective
>study perspective
>draw that girl again but using your new skills this time

applies to all other fundies

>>4281044
Actually nevermind. I'll just rationalize it by blaming my four inches tablet.

found a cute ref that I couldn't do justice

>>4281075
she looks looks sexy. keep going

>>4281094
the ref yeah

>>4281096
here's the full pic, she was on quickposes

>>4280910
Yo bitch got aids.

>>4281044
Take your attention whoring to another general, dare.

>>4281075
the drawing isn't bad bro. just cuz you're a /beg/ doesn't mean you have to be self-deprecating all the fucking time. keep going.

>>4280880
Way better, very consistent, maybe the head is a little big, but you are going to the right direction.

>>4281044
try reducing minimum line size to 0%

>>4281103
What gave it away? The incessant whining? I haven't posted here in weeks. I can't post anywhere, can I? Anyway you're right.

>>4281110
It was always at 0. What do you mean?

>>4281114
they don't taper off very sharply, maybe try making your pen "harder"

>>4281044
look at art with lines you like. try to emulate it. if it works, good. if not, repeat. Done

>>4281116
I only used two kinds of brushes, a hard round and this. Does it look off?

>>4281062
>>4281067
Not to be rude, but again, I get "study perspective" but I don't know what I'm supposed to do. I study single point perspective. Duel point. I draw shapes in perspective, bit I guess I'm a brainlet.

looking at that info graphic, I draw a shape and then put the figure inside of it?

>>4281062
nice graphic but its hard to understand for some reason. maybe its the foreign language on it. not sure. care to learn japanese for us, anon?

something about this feels weird, any critiques would be great

I drew a self portrait am I good yet?

>>4280976
horrible advice, pyw

>>4281044
I tried tracing over one of your drawings with focus on line quality and readability. Tried to go by the following rules with the time I had:
1. connect lines properly
2. be careful with arbitrary changes in line density/thickness. Look at favorite artists who use similar brushes. You can also try something like the CSP flat brush (maybe fiddle with pressure sensitivity), it's what I used here. I often use it because I like working on only 1 layer all the way while slowly sculpting out lines
3. if in doubt, don't add extra lines to define muscles etc, especially if you're drawing girls. That's not to say that you can't have a bunch of lines, but when you do that the difficulty level goes up a lot and you must know anatomy and volumes really well (I don't so I took it easy in my version)

Is drawing anime faces with realistic proportions a bad idea?

>>4281172
Depends on how "anime face" you get. Take a look at Ergo Proxy's character designs, then compare it to Cowboy Bebop's character designs.

>>4281176
I see, looks like im sticking to unrealistic

>>4280949
You have cute hands. Got kik?

>>4281044
I used to hate my lines too,
tried many configurations, and even stopped
drawing for months because of that,
but at the end was lack of motivation to draw, to make something look
finished and fancy, I think that's your problem too,
pick a piece and polish it and you may end up liking it.

>>4280974
>What do yo mean?
The, for the lack of a better word, pixely looking kind of lines? I just like the look of it.

I need serious advice from all knowledgeable artist's. I want to improve on the volume of my forms in the z-axis, like sculpting, and building 3-d, Trying to build volume in my forms.

Any advice from many of the many artist's here? Perhaps, I should do studies of masters? Or try studying still life smarter? Or artist's like sam neilson? Is there other artist's that does 3d-ish work like sam neilson's?

>>4281244
Sorry, forgot to resize. Gonna keep trying.
Really discouraged.

So obviously there's a lot of issues here, but let's focus on the eyes first. Why do they look so inhuman and flat? How do I make them look like actual eyes?

>>4281268
Son of a bitch I forgot to size it down, hold on I'll fix it don't bitch at me.

So obviously there's a lot of issues here, but let's focus on the eyes first. Why do they look so inhuman and flat? How do I make them look like actual eyes?

who are some artists that use loomis?

>>4281146
the visual balance is in the back of the figure, but the average location of the contact points of his legs is somewhere towards the front, making it look unbalanced as if he is about to fall backwards away from us

add more legs, i would say

disregard the qualities of individual features, their placement is the single most important thing for both crossing the uncanny valley and capturing likeness as well.

for the record, i think the eyes aren't bad, other than the slightly fuzzier eyebrow on one side and their general assymetry. also, some of what you disproportioned wasn't inherently wrong, for example my edit lost the wide and big chinned look of the guy, but generally i would suggest nailing down standard proportions and construction before delving into stylizations.

>>4281274
Mr. Loomis used Loomis.

>>4281294
Well the guy I was drawing has a big chin, although looking at it now it was a way too exaggerated in the original drawing. Do you know any exercises to practice symmetry?

I tried drawing a closeup of link (from zelda 1) using the magic candle

Fuck shit piss.

>>4281361
60 second gestures

>>4281363
A pose from imagination and some extras

>>4281365
And something I started tonight

>>4280968
>>4280982
So based on this drawing, what are my biggest problems and how should I focus on them.

What do I need to focus on practicing. Is there anything I'm doing correctly?

>>4281368
>Transformers, Robots in disguise!

How many years of experience did you have when you bought your first real tablet?

>>4281391
What do you consider "real"?

>>4281391
zero

>>4281400
Something you can actually use. I have a cheap wacom bamboo from 15 years ago but I don't really us it aside for signing stuff. What appears on screen is very jittery and not smooth. Maybe it's just that I'm using the wrong software with it though.

>>4281405
I'm considering buying a real tablet with zero experience right now.

>>4281406
>>4281402
Why are you on /ic/ if you've never drawn? That's what you mean by zero right?

>>4281409
I didn't just buy the tablet

>>4281109
thanks! again, appreciate your feedback.

>>4281409
I've pretty much only done a bit of pixel art. This was my first landscape attempt.

>>4280972
Hey good work anon. I was the opposite, did the whole body but ran out of time on the head. Still was kinda impressed how well it turned out

>>4281368
unironically kys

First attempt at both painting and shading. Definitely uncanny looking (something about the nose or eyes?), and I was lazy on the hair, but if you squint hard enough it almost looks decent

>>4281436
What a mean hateful comment what would even prompt such a-..... Nvm I fully agree unironically kys.

>>4281128
The character should appear as if it's stuck onto the sphere, while still retaining depth.

>>4281368
Looks nice. Keep it up, anon.

>>4281157
I see now. Thank you for taking the time to do this.

>>4281522
That's not uncanny valley,. Uncanny valley is where everything is supposedly right but the expression doesn't feel human like.
Flip the canvas if you want to see how others see it.

>>4281522
I’m sorry to tell you bro, that doesn’t look anything close to decent. Read keys to drawing

Can I get some feedback on my rough sketch before I start painting?

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Is the anatomy correct? The legs seem a little bit off

>>4281522
The forehead makes up 1/3rd of the face

>>4281592
you're right, legs too short and perspective is off

>>4281565
I'd sugest you find another way to stylize noses and mouths. It's looking pretty creepy desu.
If you're aiming for anime, look at some pixiv artists and see what they're doing. If you want something more western, try looking at norasuko stuff.
Other than that, it's looking good

Can someone redline this trash?

>>4281598
I’d honestly recommend you just start copying loomis heads from every angle (at least 50) then superimposing them on real photographs before trying to draw your own

>>4281596
Thanks! I’m trying to make it semi realistic but still somewhat anime and the nose is giving me some trouble. I hope I’ll figure it out during the rendering stage.

How do people work through studying drawing when they first learn to draw?
I know I need to learn construction before I can produce anything but drawing the same shapes over and over makes it hard to keep motivated.

I tried drawing from my shoulder and rotating the paper to get more comfortable like I was told to but these still look like shit, what am I doing wrong?

>>4281668
>what am I doing wrong
Not enough.

>>4280907
I drew my frenchie.

>>4281598
Apply boxes to your drawings.

>>4281604
>>4281676
Thanks

I'm trying to learn how to add characters to an environment. Any advice or good tutorials I can look at?

>>4281692
https://youtu.be/upxBGNcryRs

Destroy me.

>>4281739
Die pedo freak

>>4281369
It's okay anon take a deep breath. You need to focus your practice more. Drawing aimlessly is causing you to progress retardedly slow. Next time you are practicing and not drawing you need to put your all into that particular field for a few pages. For example: "I'm bad at people." Solution: Do pages of JUST GESTURE. Really focus on the forms and put your all behind each one. BE DELIBERATE. Then you move onto another field you aren't very good add.
"I'm bad at construction." Solution: Work ONLY ON CONSTRUCTION for a few pages.

I'm breaking this up into another paragraph because this is worth emphasizing. It is better to focus on a few drawings then to just scribble to fill up a page quota. Simultaneously this will burn you out if you keep it up too long. Solution: Do some deliberate practice (Search that term in Bing), take a break and draw something fun after a few pages. I like drawing dumb shit like political cartoons during the apocalypse or drawing weird H.P. Lovecraft nonsense.
In Conclusion: Practice, Draw something fun, Practice. YOU GOT THIS :)

>>4281666
You don't need to learn construction before producing "real" work. You don't have to bind yourself to atomized routines. You can draw whatever you feel like and use that as your tool for understanding whatever concept, including construction. Try imagining a scene/character that you've always wanted to draw and spend a few nights drawing it to the best of your ability, with construction. Feel free to keep refs (fav artists' works, photos etc) open and constantly refer to them while working. It will be shit but it doesn't matter, you gained a ton of exp and can reflect on the mistakes made. This process of critical thinking is your key to improvement.

(You can do isolated exercises but don't do them just because you're "supposed to")

>>4280996
I try to think of line graphs. Left to Right is X, Up and Down is Y, Height is Z.

>>4281692
Loomis fun with a pencil and manga ‘all about perspective volume 4’ is what helped me.

>>4281368
You had me impressed until you drew a r34 plane. Fuck you

>>4281740

>>4281244
>>4281250
Hey anon, relax man. Lemme critique this then give you some advice.

Critique:
-It's very hard to tell how close your lines are without the reference. I don't know if that block has worn edges or if you can't make a straight line to save your life.
-Secondly, the bottom left corner you smudged the lines over on each other and makes the planes appear off.
- The light looks like it's coming from the top left, as indicated by the shadows on the ground, yet the "background shadow" is directly behind.

Advice/How to study:
- Take a break. Don't draw for at least 2 or 3 days
- When you do end your break, find an artist you love and just copy a work by them that you enjoy. Give yourself a project that you like and enjoy doing.
- I harp on this a lot but studying to death is how you kill an artist. So take a breather, do a fun project, honestly maybe even 2 projects and then go back to studying.

>>4281758
Telling someone to not draw for a day is bad advice desu. It’s so easy to just stop. I agree with taking a break but he should use it to draw fun things, not avoid drawing entirely

>>4281670
I think this is cute as shit and you should do a full drawing. Only thing I can really bash is the eyes are pointing the wrong way.

>>4281762
I understand that opinion, I don't mean to be rude but I don't think everyone will. Plus he said he's discouraged so I think a break isn't bad.

So what does icy think of my gesture drawing and what do I need to work on?

>>4281769
FUCK, forgot pic

>>4281745
>Practice, Draw something fun, Practice.
QFT. Bouncing back and forth between study and using your studies to have fun is the best way to keep art enjoyable.

>>4281772
What does QFT stand for?

>>4281765
Thank you, I might try to do a full drawing of him but it will be pretty tough because I've only been drawing floating heads until now (Loomis).

And his eyes are like that on purpose. My frenchie has strabismus (eyes pointing in two different directions).

>>4281776
lmao frenchies are retarded and I love it

>>4281770
try making action lines and spheres/shapes that denote the head/hands/feet first before drawing only a contour

>>4281751
>>4281717
My mind is actually blown looking at these. Thanks loads. I'm gonna give me drawing another try using the grids.

Does my loomis construction have problems? Im trying to use anime proportions btw

I think it's funny that the intermediate threads died because people are afraid to ever admit they aren't /beg/ anymore. But then again they didn't have a real purpose anyway.

>>4281888

>>4281888
I think the bigger problem was that 50% of the posts were autistic screeching and telling people to go to beg.

>>4281888
whats wrong with that? The board is slow anyway so it's not really a problem.

>>4281913
I mean a lot of the /int/ post there were actually /beg/ tier.

>>4281150
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

What's the hard round in Krita? Basic-1 with size:pressure?

I tried drawing my sleeping bf. How'd I do?

>>4281871
>anime proportions btw
Don't try stylized stuff until you actuall know how to construct a head. You're still drawing flat.

back with another perspective bg from last thread, improvements?

>>4281240
I draw the entire figure using a pencil and trace the important lines with a regular pen tool. Didn't use any special techniques.

>>4281948
Il keep grinding fwap i guess, also what part of it is flat? The whole thing or the feature proportions,etc

>>4281871
maybe this could help? i dont mean that you should draw boxes to draw a head, i mean you should visualize the planes like that while you draw

>>4281273
The right eye is decent but the left one doesn't have any detail around it and it's perspective is flawed. The left brow is also fucked. This won't fix the drawing, but add a white dot on the pupil, it really makes a difference.

>>4282020
By left I mean our left and the guy's right. Also based choice with the ref.

>>4281361
Pointless
>>4281363
Awful
>>4281365
Decent.

Stop brainlessly filling up pages anon.

>>4281522

>>4282012
Thank you, I think understand what your saying, which is to think of it like a 3d object.

>>4281938
he looks like a brainlet but otherwise not bad

>>4281938
do his head really go in at the top like dat

>>4282032
>Stop brainlessly filling up pages anon.
Not him, but there is value in grinding gesture until you know the gist

>>4282098
No I'm just very /beg/ tier. Is it that noticable?

>>4282032
How should I go about practicing construction then? I figured just drawing tubes from imagination would be the best way to go about it.
>>4281541
thx

>>4281750
I'm not really sure what you mean

how do i know the exact spot where green pole goes through the ceiling?

>>4281938
Doesn't look like anything to me.

Hey I got a call back from a job interview today. I think I start next week. Now I just gotta pass the bar exam this time.


Also I drew a thing.

>>4282155
Fix that borked ass perspective first.

>>4282191
Shit drawing, stop blogging and good luck with the job.

>>4282198
<3

>>4282191
>draw a box in perspective
>draw the face while completely disregarding that perspective

been grindin figures for about 7-8 months now, have yet to do dedicated studies on individual body parts/faces/hands yet eek.
first time posting anything ive done, probably should have gotten critique sooner cuz i definitely must have picked up some bad habits.

most of these r 1 minute gestures because thats all ive been doing in this sketchbook, but i have some more in-depth construction type stuff in my other books

>>4281692
I retried the composition twice after using the tutorial. kind big pic sorry

>>4280907

>>4282317
>>4282317
1.pls learn to resize
2. looks nice, but dont forget to make sure EVERYTHING follows perspective lines. backpack on ground looks fucked up and doesnt fit with the rest of the perspective on the middle picture.
3. in the first picture, book girl's legs look really off. use a reference please.
keep going anon, other than a few things it looks cool to me. 2 picture best

>>4282231
Some of these are pretty good but if you want some actual critique you should probably post something you worked longer on.

>>4282155
Draw a straight line from one side of the roof to the other at the distance you want the pole to be.
Where the line intersects the pole is where it hits the roof.
Do the same for the floor to know where the pole should stop.

>>4282155
yur perspective janky. im bad with words but this should make sense

>>4282439
thanks bro

>>4280907
can anyone help me with this pose?

>>4280910
I like your art but what kind of public are you trying to appeal to with the style you have for drawing faces? It doesn't look good imo.

>>4280907
can anyone help me with this pose?

>>4282231
I did exactly what you did for 60 days straight for about 3-5 hours (exact time that my pencil was touching the paper) every single day.

You honestly don't get much out of just grinding figures. Go to the Video Course Threads we have here and get some of the Figure Drawing courses. It shouldn't really take you an entire year just to get the level that you are at right now, to be honest.

i am literally begging you all to resize your pictures. its not fun to look at when its poster size but restricted to a computer screen.

>>4280907
can anyone have me with this pose?

>>4282527
thanks for resize. im pretty inexperienced so it mostly looks good to me, however theres something bugging about the position of her right arm and hand. my right. and also the neck? for a more realistic drawing the neck looks really small. its really just the right arm.
ok i got it. it looks like the upper arm is tucked back but the forearm is able to reach the knee in that pose. the upper arm should come forward some more so it looks less odd

>>4282527
oh. and also the heel. Looks Sharp......yeah but nice construction anon :) keep going

>>4282527
I'll have you in any pose :)

>>4281871
if you're going to make that many contours so close together, then draw larger to get a better sense of form so they all arent so similar in shape

Trying to the 20 hand poses anon advised me to do

>>4282617

>>4282614
Yeah il do that next time

Just got a Cintiq 16 with Clip Studio Paint, here's my first try:

Waiting to dry since I cant use the hairdryer at this hour. Just thought I'd share progress and welcome feedback. Am i going about lighting from the left correctly?

hey so how do I make this look better?

>>4282793
Finish the BG and pokeball. Also blog?

>>4282357
could i get some crit please before i ink? my biggest problem i think is that the forearms are too long. any suggestions how to fix that that doesnt involve moving the handlebar nor the rider? i thought i could foreshorten in perspective but it didnt work. also i know her calf muscle is wrong i fixed that after i uploaded.

I remember once in aco they had a “rule 63 yourself” thread. I did me in April O’Neil’s outfit. Got bored and did it again. Also did Slave Leia.

>>4282805

will using something like lazy nezumi cripple me?

bedman from guiltygear

>>4282793
fuck your drawing is making me want to learn how to draw in a lewd fashion

>>4282793
The background ...

>>4282793
Not beg bro

>>4282793
do what the pros do and put in some random photo of the beach with a filter on it behind her

What do people mean when they say get out of my comfort zone? I only ever draw anime people (no strong jaws, nose, etc), should I start practice realism and backgrounds or something

we wuz spess muhreens

Whenever I'm drawing a 3/4 view of a face (which is usually the case), I can't figure out what their outer edge of their face/jaw is supposed to look like until I have all the facial features in. Should I be grinding loomis until I can get it on the first try without redrawing the outer edge of the face?
As it stands I just copy how someone else drew the face I roughly want to achieve, and use a different reference every time so I never settle on a single way of drawing faces.

>>4281685
Halp>>4281692

>>4281685
Help

More gestures.
I changed brush after half and the soldier was something I tried from my imagination

>>4281044
How the fuck are you learning this fast when you started in June

>>4283167
Try drawing more.

Warmed up with a few gestures.

>>4281044
stupid question, but how’d you study? any tips on taking notes?

>>4283238
ask someone who actually knows how to draw

Are there any good resources on how to colour your drawings with pencils? I've got a set of prismacolors but whenever I use them it all comes out looking scratchy and trash. I know I must be fucking something up but I just dunno what

>>4281128
im assuming you have a basic knowledge of how to connect primitive shapes to make a person so try something like this. Think about whatever complex group of shapes you want to draw (a person) within a bigger very simple shape, like a box or a sphere. It may be easier to start by drawing or marking some anchor parts, like the parts that are closest to the outside of the box. Treat it like a puzzle. If you're not sure where to put the next piece, measure halves/thirds/quarters of the box edges. You are basically taking the perspective of a box and slowly doing basic math to apply it to a person at an angle. To reiterate, having good knowledge of anatomy and (more importantly) proportions is pretty important to drawing people in perspective.

>>4283320
Oh yeah forgot to mention something that is probably obvious: a sphere is going to give you a distorted fisheye look, and a box is just going to be basically a slice of 1/2/3 point perspective.

Bout to read some of the study books, As an absolute beginner which book should I read first?

Key to drawing or Loomis? Perhaps you have another book to recommend.

(I want to learn how to draw cartoons/humans).

>>4283337
Also I don't get pic related, Do I just not read anything in the book except for the exercises or?

>>4283160
>soldier was something I tried from my imagination
It shows

Trying out watercolor after a very long time.Thoughts?

>>4281123
If you do want them to be finer overall try reducing the pressure sensitivity on your tablet software. And even if you want super thin lines, line weight still exists and you still have to pay attention to it, making fatter lines in some places for emphasis and not in others, which I think is more your problem as someone else mentioned.
Personally I don't really like the default clip studio brush lines either, they're extremely anime which you seem to like but they're also very "perfect" or lacking imperfections. Have you tried a pencil or textured brush?

any tips?

https://youtu.be/H6wl-EyhXl0


This fat man playing keys, I love him.

>>4283347
you'll know what that means if you start reading Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain. It talks a lot about shit that isn't important before it actually gets to the drawings.

>>4283382
I think your lineart should be darker

>>4282753
Thanks for the input, guys. After sleeping on it ive realized the front leg couldn't get so much light as the shade from the back leg would prevent that.
>>4283353
Resize your image. Also it looks like you started painting without a goal.

>>4283467
I did!!
i can never fix a goal to be honest

>>4283474
I'm pretty /beg/ myself, but from what i understand, a good painting has a good drawing underneath. If you dont have structure to follow you will end up with a painting that is not structurally sound. This painting shows you need to practice perspective and as you add more forms and structures value will play more of a role as well. Keep at it.

Yo, someone told me to come here and called me a faggot. I wanna know what u guys think, its far from finished

>>4283481
Alright man.Thanks

>>4283493
Go back to /alt/ faggot. This thread is only for beginners

>>4283493
>>4283518
Looks /beg/ to me. How do the legs attach to the body? Pose is stiff. Looks unfinished.

>>4280968
Grind moar you lazy faggot.

>>4280968
Draw more from observation and really think about your lines before you put them down. This image shows you have a basic understanding of forms and how to rotate them. It also shows you have some level of understanding value. It just looks like things are in the wrong place. Lines aren't careful and everything looks rushed and lazy. I mean, this is the "best you can do" but you aren't even staying in the lines when you color. You aren't following your lines when you ink.

My advice would be to practice lines and ellipses. Then go get a coloring book and just stay in the damn lines. Find an artist you like and get to tracing, taking care to draw as the artist would, flowing strokes and complete lines. None of the start/stoppy shit I see when you trace your own lines

How the fuck do I get better at head drawing/head constructing
Do I need to keep grinding Loomis?

Bg was copypasted from the reference.

/draw/ and /alt/ told me to go here. Also, since I didn't see a webcomic thread around, has anyone here worked on one before or maybe even a serialized work? I have some questions mainly about getting started, I already have the main plot of the story and the characters on paper but for some reason I can't get the ball rolling.

>>4283662
Bruh that face... Oof

>>4283669
Messed big time with the eyes but my friend was squinting her eyes a little. Aside from that, what else should I improve upon?

>>4283685
the clothing looks very muddy

>>4282317
Is there a miniature black hole out of frame on that second panel?

>>4283493
Needs more contrast. Looks a bit washed out right now. You haven't used a wide value range

>>4283662
You shading with black wich is terrible way to do.
Go and study color theory.

>>4283518
Are we going to be doing this "Just because you can draw more then a stick figure doesn't mean your not beg anymore" discussion again? because that shit is kinda getting old.

>>4282527

Didnt quite end up where I wanted but learned a bit along the way. Please forgive the bland background.

>>4283493
Too sharp

>>4280907
Any suggestions for fixing the forearm length?

>>4283678
I love it

Here is the mandalorian helmet i drew . Any tips ?

Been practicing loomis but still not good at it quite yet so ive been thinking of practicing basic anatomy in between drawing heads, is this a bad idea?

>>4284046
I still can't understand why every one of your asuka attempts looks so absolutely sickening.

>>4284041
I would say it's generally good, if you have fun and absorb the info

>>4284046
Co jest ostatnie słowo?
Btw gmi

>>4284048
He let go after being called gmi or that he was improving a lot. It's called being delusional

>>4284050
Okay il try it out then, hopefully the heads will come with time

>>4284057
naga means naked

>>4284061
And don't forget to draw some complete characters/scenes where you tie everything together too, since that's presumably your end goal

>>4280907
trying an easier pose

>>4284072
Thanks for the advice, ill try it out once i get an okay grasp

>>4284065
Now i remember, the curse of being an American pole

>>4284060
>trying out different things is now being delusional
I thought experimentation was a big part of art.

>>4283830
I like it.
>>4283869
>Merc actually killing a Blazing enemy
yeah I dunno about that dude back to the drawing board

>>4284046

ok this is the last drawing of this year..

>>4284189
szczesliwego anonku

>>4284240
nazwajem

>>4284189
You da illist

>>4280907
Does anyone else have any trouble focusing on the artbook pdfs? I'm always finding myself being distracted whenever I sit down to draw as I'm viewing them on my phone.

Would the physical copies be better for my situation?

>>4284249
Are you drawing digital or physical?
If digital, do you have a second monitor to have a big ol copy of it on a screen? I think the problem is on your phone. It's tiny.


I have trouble jumping around in the books, so it's been fun doing model books where I get to scroll until one jumps out at me.

been drawing very casually since i suck at understanding perspective and shape but i managed to make this

>>4284254
I'm drawing physical, but I haven't really got the space to draw in front of my pc.

If the sceen size will help I'll go out and buy a clipboard if need be.
Thank you for the advice

pls help

>>4284391
His proportions are so off. Like even if it’s stylized it’s still wrong. His right arm is as long as his whole body.

League of Legends' Kog'Maw

>>4283972
Why bother drawing construction lines if you're just going to fuck them all up?

Just posting something for the sake of keeping at it.

jubeichan

>>4284465
the outstretched arm is a bit too long and the heads are a teeny bit too small, but its really nice in general. dont avoid hands and feet, be brave

>>4284470

>>4283972
No one has given any helpful advice so:

>better line quality
you have random open lines everywhere, not a problem when you start sketching but eventually you need to place solid clean lines instead
>line dependence
lines don't actually exist, they only are illusion between two different values. keep this in mind especially when drawing with pencil
>weak shading
don't shade like that. putting down even shade of tone doesn't take that long if you have softer pencil and just slide it slideaways. random scribbling as shading doesn't look good. Also keep in mind which direction you shade in, for example the visor should be shaded horizontally

rotate your pictures too, no one wants to crank their neck

>>4280907
Last of the year

>>4283382
The perspective was better in the sketch.

Rushed to draw this before the year ends. I like the face on the main dude, but I'll still be here by next December kek

fanart

Is it fine to copy artist work?
Everyday before i start my daily practice i warm up by copying vlippu manual for 1 hour, not just direct copying but constructing the figures he has using his method/technique.
Is this fine or a was of time?

>>4284658
waste*

>>4284658
Fine and a good idea. Perhaps even Based and/or Red/VilppuPilled.

is 20yo too late to learn to draw?
Will i ever be good enough to make the illustrations of my own books?
Also, should i loomis or is it a bad idea?

Help im trying desperately to learn how to paint skin but i just cant do it. Im trying to kind of emulate Sinix's style of painting but i dont know how or where to start.

>>4284804
HUE SHIFT

>>4284804
DARKER VALUES but seriously at least adjust hues in shadows

>>4284804
You're jumping on rendering(coloring/shading) stage way too early. Try constructing the head first.
Google ''Rileys method face'', those are the planes of the head. Study and try to understand it.
Now You should come back to this picture and construct the head sketch, with faces, as shown on rileys head. Just fill them with flat color, remember how light would interact with the faces and color shadows/highlights according to that.
Correctly built head with meh rendering will always look better than polished turd that has huge anatomical flaw

thank you! I have been working on rendering heads lately. What would you say the biggest issue with the head there is, and is Rileys method more effective than loomis?

>>4284812
thank you! I have been working on rendering heads lately. What would you say the biggest issue with the head there is, and is Rileys method more effective than loomis?

also sorry im new to the site and i didnt properly reply

>>4284810
I do understand hue shifts and I try really hard to work them into my art but it just never looks right, its very frustrating. Do you have any tips or resources for learning how to add them to a piece?

>>4284823
Try harder, there’s fuck all value and hue difference between the light and dark in your image. Open up the ‘curve adjustment’ panel in photoshop and start there. If your darks are on a seperate layer hit command+m or maybe command+u to bring up the hueshift thing. Press colorise if it does fuck all.

>>4284716
No you need to be a be at the peak intelligence age of 9 to maximize the speed of your learning. But for real there is plenty of time as long as you work hard. Just realize that it is something that takes thousands of hours to get a high degree of mastery of.

>>4284830
does this count? this is probably my best attempt so far at hue shifting

>>4284860
No

>>4284860

>>4284860
>>4284879

i know the hand is unfinished but this study of another artist's painting is just very taxing, and i'm tired and probably never going to touch this again. oh well.

>>4284879
>>4284882
thank you!

>>4283337
Been getting into the book, It's pretty decent so far but as a beginner should my drawings look this... Basic? do I need to put more time into my drawings or do I continue further into the book?

I've been spend around 10-20 Minutes each exercise.

How important is knowing how to draw the skull? Do I need to memorize every bone or just the regular contorn?

>>4284994
You're still symbol drawing. You need to read books on how to stop symbol drawing first.

>>4284998
To be honest I didn't really work hard on the eyes but I did use construction on the pepper, Does The book "Keys to drawing" explain on how to stop symbol drawing?.

>>4285007
Pic related.
The author rambles on and on about pseudo science shit but the exercises are really good at breaking symbol drawing.
Hell the entire book is more or less about that.

>>4285021
Alright guess I'll switch to this book, I skiped a few pages into "Keys to drawing" and I haven't really found anything that helpful to me just yet.

>>4285025
Keys to Drawing is great, even better than the book i recommended, but KtD already assumes you are familiar with the concept of symbol drawing and how to avoid it.
Right Side of the Brain, despite its flaws, focuses completely on erasing symbol drawing.

>>4285021
Both of these books seem a bit complicated, I read a bit of Loomis Fun with a Pencil and I find it really easy to understand but I need to get past symbol drawing first...

Wouldn't practising Perception and Construction get rid of symbol drawing or do I really have to read both books?

>>4284994
I tried using only construction on this cat, Am I getting anywhere with this?

(Not complaining about Construction, just my art).

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>>4285118
>>4285118
>>4285118

>>4285007
>>4285115
Why use construction when sight drawing? I only use construction when doing cartoons from imagination.

>>4285145
Because doing construction when drawing from a ref will make it easier to draw it from imagination later.
Think about it, what would be easier to draw from imagination? A cat, or a combination of cilinders and spheres that will resemble a cat?
People often overestimate their ability to draw something from imagination, so it's generally a good practice to break stuff down into simple forms even when drawing from ref.

>>4284994
>>4285115
The fuck do you want us to tell you with your literal 1 minute sketches? Stop blogging and just draw and read the book.

>>4280907
Any tips?

I'm going to assume i'm /beg/

>>4287478
These are just quick warm up sketches I did this morning btw