/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Guess I start. I want to update my price sheet for the new year.

Shot: Half
Tier: Clean Inks

Last thread:

Render, Medium Long Shot: $200-$350
Projected Full Body Price: $250-$300

Full Inks, Portrait: $80-$150
Projected Full Body Price: $400-500 (?)

>>4273576
I'd rather pay you to stop shoving your shit everywhere.

YCH

Line art $500-$800
Some colour $1200-$1600

Shill me out boys, i really need some shekles boys.
will be reposted on the hour every hour till you pay me.

I want to draw dynamic figures like Steve Huston and plain air urban scapes like Bill Wray.
But hell how can anyone make any money doing shit like that while being unknown?
How much would your average coomer pay for more drawings like this?

>>4273758
>Steve Huston
look m8, 0% nudity, no hyper cock edit, no mega cum, like what are you selling here.
This is pretty much christian porn.
either draw porn or draw the interesting stuff you want to draw.

The cactus took actual effort.
This one was just some casual scribbles and took about an hour.
Do you think I can sell under an alias to furry degenerate and make cash with out it eating away at my soul?

>>4273764
Furries are the modern day kings of the Venice merchant guilds, if you want that sweet cum money you need to step your game up. like you need to hit some real levels of degeneracy.
get to this point then we can talk.

>>4273764
also the dragon girl looks 110% better than the cactus. so like stick to your guns man.

>>4273754
Line art $6,000,000
Some colour: $your foreskin

Oi vey, pay up goy.

>>4273771
angel dust nooo

This was my first commission from a couple of days ago, I charged 30$ per character.
I'm not sure I have a big enough following to charge more, but how much do you think this is worth?

>>4273754
Is this because white box is anti-porn?

>>4273827
$45 per character at least.

>>4273771
Why is the anus and jizz fully rendered but everything else is just cel-shading?

>>4273853
focus on the money man, no one is paying to see your OC, just give them the fuck holes they want to see.
in hyper detail, covered in every bodily fluid.

are these prices competitive enough?

>>4273888
Lmao what the fuck dude

>>4273836
it's because he's a mega faggot

>>4273888
flat coloring with no shading? are you literally charging $50 for using the paint bucket tool on a 1 to 5 dollar lineart?

>>4273888
Are you for real?

I charged $10 for this.

>>4273908
yeah i use msp and i dont know how to color, dont want people to actually pick the color option

>>4273576
>>4273754
that's like 15 bucks doodles anon, if any

>>4273853
>cel-shading
yikes gotta stop abusing those meme words for stuff it has no relevancy to

>>4273916
Then just dont offer a color option einstein

>>4273918
That one was billed for $42. When I referred to a fully inked portrait, this was appraised.

>>4273947
Coomer shit= $20

>>4273947
At least 40$ depending on how much time it took. Don't listen to retards that look down anime.

>>4273576
>>4273936
Clear examples of more is less. Learn some line economy already, dumbass.

>>4273916
you are an insult to ms paint artists

>>4273912
Update: The artist that commed this just sent another $10 to my Paypal and said "Merry Christmas"
So I guess I got paid $20 for this?

>>4273470
Is Ko-Fi okay to use for tips for drawing smut?

>>4273771

>>4274214
Fuck no, are you retarded? Look at the rules on a site first.

>>4273576
The colored parts looks awful but I love everything else

Lads?
How do I start doing commission? Where did you lads find all these people who would pay for your art from?

>>4274476
Different anon, but how do they know if i'm doing nsfw or not

>>4274525
Essentially this, isn't Ko-Fi just a tipping service, also, I've seen other smut makers use Ko-Fi.

I stopped taking comms a few months ago, this was a gift I painted for someone. I used to charge $18 for a full body image with color but I never draw proper backgrounds.

>>4275104
I'd say that's worth six dollars
>>4273947
Four dollars
>>4273936
Ten dollars
>>4273912
Two dollars
>>4273888
All of those are worth four bucks altogether
>>4273827
Sixty Dollars
>>4273758
fifty cents
>>4273764
Three dollars
>>4273576
>w/o blush
Fifteen bucks
>w/ blush
Two dollars

>>4275130
damn, making it as an artist is hard

>>4274251
inside you, my nut will bust

>>4273947
Let me commission you lad

>>4275104
Didn't know zun did commissions.

>>4273764
money yes, soul no.
currency was never directly exchangeable for spiritual well being so give it a go anyway

>>4274515
coomershit is the clearest way in if you want to turn a 'quick' profit

>>4273470

>>4276807
I want the top picture more way more than that boring bottom shit too, seethe more.

>>4276798
>ywn be a cool alcoholic composer who draws little girls in big hats

>>4276807
I love this image so much.

>>4273576
>>4273936
>>4273947
>>4275104

I like those

>>4273470
Is that the irishman?

>>4273931
alright how about now

>>4279715
just edit it out. it sticks out like a sore thumb on the sheet and makes it look uglier in general

>>4279715
I say keep it but with an even more outrageous price

>>4275104
18 sounds reasonable personally I'd pay up to 25 I think

>>4274515
Ryonafags and gurokeks are usually in desperate need of artists willing to do their degeneracy

>>4279715
Make it 6,000,000. Just for fun.

I've gotten comissions before never charged above 40, pic related wasn't comissoned but someone paid me to use it in a king james bible they're trying to get published with amature artists.

>>4281691
Yea but how many coms do you get? That's what matters.

>>4281697
I get a few when I open them on twitter. There's a guy who always gets a guro pic done from me and usually pays 100 bucks despite me charging less, not that I'd ever complain about that.

>>4281691
I've seen your work around anon. I can tell you work hard on your stuff, 40-50 sounds about right for the amount of time you probably put into it. If you used colors I'd pay for your work. Still like I said in the draw thread work on textures, shit throws me off, some people may not mind it but alot of people will just move on.

How much did the guy pay for that pic?

>>4281708
I only asked for 5 bucks and he could do whatever he wants, I couldn't care less what people do with my posts for the most part. Art is meant to be shared. Guy wouldn't have even needed to pay me lol.

>>4281713
>not charging
Based and brokepilled

>>4281691
If you did animus with details like that you'd get more commissions.

>>4281718
>>4281722
I just do art for fun for the most part tho. I couldn't care less about becoming pro or making bank off it.

I'd much rather do what I like than trend hop and coom all the time for followers I like doing storybook stuff, classic scenes and parodies. No real market for that tho so I just deal with it.

I used to do shitty animus but pretty much grew out of it.

>>4281737
>hobbyist
Stop taking commissions for people who WANT to make ot you fuck!

>>4281737
>I'd much rather do what I like than trend hop and coom all the time for followers
Sadly it doesn't work that way anon. You have to trendhop to get anywhere.

>>4281737
Good for being a hobbyist, anon, but if you want to go pro or make a living with art, then you’ll have to trend hop.

>>4281743
Dumb frogposter.

>>4281713
So I can repost your work on pornhub?

>>4273470

I'm planning to finally start doing comms as soon as possible.
Is 70-80usd per character too Dunning–Kruger?

>>4281783
>that angle on the benis
looks like it's going to break
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penile_fracture

>>4281713
then why post it here? this thread is obviously an attention whore trap, we all already knew there weren't going to be answers made by people that would actually pay money for anything, but even still at least keep up the guise that money was the ultimate objective. you know, because that was the topic, instead of this humblebragging

>>4281784
Make it 100.

Christmas gift for a friend, was thinking ~$70

>>4281807
100 for anime symbols is a bit extreme

>>4281836
Coomer shit and it looks good too, that why I priced it like that.

>>4281836
https://twitter.com/K_Pring654/status/1188436976086601729

>>4281851
inflating your price because of name brand, wow im impressed
next youll tell me milesdj work is actually worth $8000

>>4281868
Someone's work is worth the exact amount people are willing to pay for it. People buy K_Pring and miles stuff. Your personal opinion doesn't really mean anything

>>4281824
seems fine, but i think you missed put shadows in the hair, and that make the head looks a little off.
Remember the time you use to make it

>>4281931
MOTHERFU-

thanks, literally just noticed that

I was asking for $80 for pic related plus a followup picture. Was it worth it or did I accidentally rip off my commissioner?

>>4281997
The other pic

>>4281997
how long did it take you?

>>4282014
About 15 hours

>>4282062
80 ÷ 15 = $5.33
You ripped yourself off anon, good job!

>>4282062
that's below minimum wage, fren. he ripped you off

>>4282084
>>4282085
He actually tipped me another $80, so I he saved me from my own stupidity. I'm still an idiot though

>>4282089
that's fine, probably he feels that the thing was worth more money too.
Remember that those kind of works are more complex in general because people tend to demand more things that can push you out of your comfort zone, they demand certain specifics things that have to be in the image, certain places, certain expressions, etc, etc. So of course that demand more effort to you than a simple character in a simple pose or with no background.
You should put more money in those commissions, or define lines that are ok with your effort, for example adding some money per character, for backgrounds, for draw objetcs, and all that shit, because all those shits count.
I can guess for example that the guy specified that you have to put the clothes lying on the floor plus the pokeballs around, and an open pokeball.

>>4281997
This worth more than 80, you are a dumbass anon.

>>4282245
not him but, how much exactly would you pay for it?

>>4282245
>>4282084
>>4282062

>>4282187
Your guess is correct, though he was happy with the picture without the things like the pokeball or the clothes. He actually paid the whole 160 bucks right after picking the poses he wanted and I was the one who kept asking if he would like anything else added as I worked on the picture and then pushing myself out of my comfort zone, because I'm not used to putting this many things in a single picture.

I suppose that the tip was a good motivation to put more work on it, but when I look back to it, in my own opinion I wouldn't be sure that it's actually worth more than $100. Mainly because I still doubt my skill and I'm not even sure if I'm out of /beg/-tier yet

>>4282270
Where do you find these people who are willing to pay so much? How big is your following?

>>4282296
I guess I just got lucky. I have 109 followers on furaffinty, around 80 on Inkbunny and around 50 on Twitter, and most of my commission works are from YCHs. I can count the custom commissions that I've done with just one hand.

For what it's worth, I try to be legitimately friendly to my customers, and that seems to help too

>>4282250
Around 120-130.

>>4282270
You are advanced beg, so you could consider yourself out of reach for most of begs, you are already making money, think of this, earning money is hard, most furries have low income job, do you think people would waste their hard earned job on crappy art? I draw as well, i'm also a furry, and your work is good enough, you can surely get better, but the little details like the pokeballs makes a lot of difference, it shows you care for your customers, and that would build you a loyal fanbase in the future, just keep the way you are doing things, keep polite, avoid spergos who want you to work for pennies, and I wish you the best.

t. Other inkbunny fag

>>4282310
That's insane, I guess I severely undercharged on mine. I try to be friendly to anyone who talks to me as well, though I'm kind of psychologically stuck in the mindset that charging someone lots of money is dishonest/unfriendly behavior, so I was half relying on the dude to offer to pay extra or tip or something.

In the end I suppose it's better to just charge as much as you can, it's kind of galling but I'm realising there are people who'd gladly pay the extra cost. Maybe it's just a matter of who your customers happen to be. To be honest when you posted your pic I expected /ic/ to rip it apart, maybe this place has conditioned me to think I need to be michelangelo before I'm allowed to charge significant amounts

>>4282338
If you draw the 27377383 generic anime girl is all lost for you anon, customers don't want to buy souless shit, soul is always over technicall skill, the pic of the furfag who sole for 180 it has soul, I would pay him for his work, I would not play for beg shit and stuff looking manequin people done in designdoll and traced over.

>>4282349
I am >>4273827
I enjoy drawing what I draw, I just figured I don't have enough technical skill to warrant a high price regardless of soul, but I'm coming to understand it's a bit more nuanced than that

>>4281743
maybe if they were good enough they wouldnt have to complain about hobbyists

>>4282362
You have more than enough soul to start charging, start believing on yourself, if you keep thinking you are not prepares other person with enough determination and maybe less skills will come and "steal" your possible customers, after all the replacement rate in furry art is high as fuck on beg/intermediate.

>>4282349
>Found the furfag
Fuck off delusional fuck.

>>4282324
I hadn't thought about it like that, thanks Anon! May 2020 bring you many followers and gains

>>4282338
>>4282362
Seeing the stuff that you make, I believe that you could actually be charging more than me if we were to draw similar pictures, and I'd have charged the same per character as you did.
I'm actually on the same mindset as you where I feel shitty if I think that I'm charging too much for what I do, but I managed to somewhat solve that by setting a price sheet. If I stick to that then I feel that the deals that I make are fair since the customer will know what they're walking into (I'll have to work it over for the next year to make the prices a bit more fair for myself). See how far you can push them (within reason) and ignore the people who complain about prices

>>4281691
Nice, you should charge a bit more and do colors instead of all linework, followed you on twitter a while ago and love your work.
>>4281743
Git gud, hobbyists tend to make it more often than tryhards.

>>4282387
Seethe more weebfaggot, you will never earn money from you waifus ; )

bitch from beg board. not a commission, but gift and most recent piece. i would price this at about $25. what u think ic

>>4282455
Sounds about right, has soul.

>>4282455
Love this, nice attention to detail in the reflected light off link's eyes and the moon's brow. This is definitely more than 25, I'm not sure though since it's SFW and I don't know the market for that.
Keep practising your painting and you will be very good eventually. More detailed backgrounds and more variation in color beyond just one for shadow and one for lit surfaces would look better though. That latter point ties into having a deeper understanding of values and how surfaces are affected by various light sources. You could have made the snow on the ground a lot darker, which would have made the foreground pop and it would make sense since there's not really a light source powerful enough to light the entire landscape to that extent (perhaps it would be more comfy as well).

>>4282501
thanks much. i will have to learn lighting better. darken my values.. and maybe draw porn for coomers. imagine selling my soul to horny people. Closer than i think

>>4282526
Hey, it ain't that bad. From my experience, it's easier to deal with/interact with people commissioning porn and
they understandd better the value of your art than people who are solely interested in SFW art

>>4282455
yeah i agree that is worth more than $25, is all demand in the end so at least think in the time you take to do it as a base price, then add value according to the demand.

>>4282455
If I cared about Zelda I'd probably pay up to 45 for that. Really cute and [soul].

>>4282562
will do. thas business.

>>4282557
maybe someday i will draw for coomers. gotta learn how to draw penis and vagina though

>>4282565
aw haha thanx :)

Hey boys, I am new here. I charged 1700€ for this one. Give me your honest opinions, please.

>>4282669
lol I can just take a photo of a deer for free idiot

>>4282678
>seething with envy

>>4282678
I am afraid, that you are the one who is an idiot if you are willing to do it for free. Photography is also a form of art, young man.

Damn if you all are getting comms i don't know why i keep waiting to get better

>>4282693
pyw

>>4282678
The envy is big in this one, the painting is not even "hyperalism", keep on your manga retard kun, you don't know shit about anything else.

>>4282669
If this was on oil and canvas, I'd say 2000 burger bucks
Digitally, I'd 200 burger bucks

>>4282957
>200 bucks only because is done digitally

I agree the price should drop, but not that much, is that anon can get the same quality digitally it should charge way more than 200.

>>4282669
If it had neon fur and a huge dick, I'd say 2000 burger bucks
Otherwise, I'd 200 burger bucks

>>4273888
This is ridiculously underpriced. Should ask for at least ten times more.

>>4282964
funny that you mentioned that because I am planning to create an account on Furaffinity and start to paint these funny naked furry avatars digitally. I am thinking of charging from 400 to 800USD per piece.

>>4273576
Hey didn't i see this picture in narmak's discord server?

>>4276807
Misleading image. Dont fall for it.

>>4283145
This.

>>4276807

The vast majority of porn artists, I including furries, make less than the bottom 10% of concept artists in the industry (who's wages come to about $22k annually). Average for the industry is around $49k-63k with benefits. Upper echelon (10%), around $101k. Some too tier artists have managed to secure income close to $200k That's not even getting into the rapid rise of indie comics (with books earning upwards to $100k to even a million from crowdfunding campaigns) and the resurgence of interest in 2D animation, both professionally and indie, thanks to the success of Klaus.

>>4282731
Anon is right about the furry shit one.

>>4283328
wow, I am not sayin he is wrong, I just want to see his work and put a price on it to help him.

You guys should try to Vickrey auction your commissions if you get more requests than you can handle
https://kevinlynagh.com/notes/pricing-niche-products/

Tier: Pencils
Shot: Full-body (Front, Side, and Back)

>>4284247
Work on your proportions more.

>>4284247
Dude, her femur is too long.

>>4284261
>>4284283
Better?

>>4284247
Nice turnaround

>>4284326
Now looks better, keep the good job anon.

>>4284326
Is she supposed to be swaying like she had a rod up her ass?

>>4276807
This hit so close to home. Thanks for making me feel miserable

>>4282959
the difference is one of a kind vs something that could easily be reproduced at full quality, that someone would likely get for free (see; the very image this conversation is about. fullsize, free)

>>4283351
Legit keyboards hold their value. Bought a topre back in 2012, it's worth more now than when i bought it.

>>4282669


fucking hell

I don't even know how to price it

It's a masterpiece

>>4282669

How long did that take you to do?

>>4281691

£40!?

Dude you were robbed

>>4281999

I find that to be an abomination

with that skill

why

>>4281824

That's porn

you are a brilliant artist, amazing

but that's porn

>>4281743
Ok retard, if you keep voing and don't care what other people do or think and just improve you'll get noticed eventually, it took kjg years to make it, rome wasn't built in a day. Like I said I couldn't care less about becoming pro. Just draw coomer shit and trend hop if you want temporary followers instwad of reeeeing at randos like me online who got paid for doing my own thing.
>>4281747
>>4281761
Yea I know but trends are boring to me, I enjoy storybooks and like to draw them so I do, I don't get many likes or followers ( only around 1,000 on twitter ) I'd rather have fun than have artwork feel like a chore for ( yous ) and clout.
>>4281771
Lol do it faggot.
>>4282434
I'd rather not charge much because like I said I do it for fun, aslong as some sperg doesn't add a sig or water mark to my posts people can do whatever they want
>>4284989
See above, it's not about money with me.

>>4285112
That's kinda a based response anon, post blog? You seem chill.

The only advice I can give you on your artwork is to chill on those details. I've seen your work in the draw threads and that shit is a bit much.

>>4285112
>only 1,000
That's not too shabby for a non-trend hopper.

>>4282669
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosa_Bonheur

>>4285168
yes, its a reproduction.

>>4285177
I mean, its a study. its not perfect.

>>4273764
You got a blog? What resources did you use to learn?

>>4285195
Alligatarz on Newgrounds. Most of the stuff there is sheit tho.

As for resources nothing special.
Loomis, Hampton, Huston, the usual goys you see talked about on /ic/.
One big resource I think is indispensable is the Watt’s atelier.
Listening to Jeff Watt’s commentary on George Leonard’s book “Mastery” is must for any who wants to study art.

>>4281784
yes 70-80 is the perfect range I find people are willing to pay. charge 30 extra for detailed backgrounds.

>>4283171
The 2D animation thing will die by next year, if Disney doesnt care, it aint happening

>>4276807
>>4281784
>>4273947

Yeah, draw nsfw for easy commision bucks, too bad you will be blacklisted from getting actual professional jobs in the industry

Coomers always loss

>>4286691
Pros are usually giant faggots tho, self publishing can go along way

Shot: Full-body
Tier: Clean Inks

>>4282455
>bitch from beg board

>>4282455
Defenitely more tban 25. Remember underpricing hurts not only you but every other artist

>>4286685
Cool, i'll try annoucing it for 75 then

This guy opened six commission slots an hour ago and they were full in 11 minutes, so he must be doing something right.

>>4284996
..yes? You don't gift all your bros porn?

these threads are always the same it’s either
>NOOO DONT CHARGE LOW YOURE GOING TO MAKE ME HAVE TO CHARGE LESS TO COMPETE
or
>lol your art is worth a buck fitty because I want (you)s

>>4273888
Nigga. That one on the bottom left. Shit looks like he broke his legs and bouta fall on his face.

>>4287382
Looks appealing to me, specially the lower row, the painted 225 bucks one looks cool, see anon appealing is always the key, if you have appealing and s decent skill level you will never have empty commission slots.

>>4287382
because he's a furry artist

I'm looking for someone to make a commission, is there any good website out there to quickly browse through artists who are open to commission, see their work, and price?

I don't want to waste hours browsing through shitty DeviantArt content.

>>4289404
typically you'd have a few favorite artists whose styles you like and think would suit your purposes

>>4289404
Me. See my instagram @manuelfarias04 and email me if you are interested

what price?

>>4273470
doing my first payed comission
he asked for a drawing of the pokemon claydol with no other specifications, even after I asked him.

thinking a 1080p or higher background, a short animated avatar, and a very simple banner that should take me max 30 minutes.

since this will be my first payed comission I don't really know what to price it at, and I don't really know if I'm doing the right thing since he said the equivalent of "I want product... use your imagination though lol"

>>4273936
This is nice. Much better than your usual lifeless girls.

>>4273470
These are the three tiers I'll be putting on my commission sheet. Colored sketch, colored lineart, and complex colored lineart. Someone told me I should charge $15, $30, and $75 respectively, does /ic/ agree?

>>4290104
>that anatomy
0 lmao, stop overrendering and actually learn how to draw

>>4290927
Pyw

>>4290673

Yeah, thats correct.

>>4290927
Pyw

>>4286691
Idk about that, Rebecca Sugar got a whole show because she drew Ed, Edd and Eddy porn

>>4287382
All in all pretty reasonable price for what you're getting too, you'd be hard pressed to get that quality for what he's asking anywhere else
Also doing furshit helps to get commissions,

eo

>>4291203
It wasn't "because". She had (((connections))) inside Cartoon Network and a relationship Ian Jones-Quartey, and Pendleton Ward (who has been outed as completely unprofessional who poorly manages his team by handing then completely creative control), and Alex Hirsch (who has been outed as a complete degenerate who cheats constantly and masturbates to pornography in the office, and puts his friends in high positions over those with merit) to get her on board Adventure Time as a "storyboard revisionist".

Her rise is the result of the animation industry's nepotism.

How much could i realistically charge for this?
I need to start making money with my art my wageslave lifestyle is literally killing me

>>4291517
I would personally probably pay $40 to 50 for it, maybe $60.

Started doing animu art, considering opening comms, idk what to charge for something like this

>>4282455
I love this.

>>4287382
That’s really cool. The 11 minutes then full thing.

>>4282669
Is this traditional? What resources did you study?

>>4291720
Not even for free, this can't get more hiddeous and generic.

>>4291208
Why she has the arms of a 90 yo?

>>4291517
$25

>>4291720
Dogshit

>>4291720
Niggah wtf

>>4291767
>>4291752
>>4291746
Post your work.

>>4291780
>you can't give an oppinion unless you pyw

Fuck off

>>4291782
I'm willing to bet he's better than you fags.

>>4291720
25 max

>>4282669
id say around 800.

>>4291791
as in usd

>>4291785
At polishing turds?

>>4291752
>>4291746
>>4291767
Thank you for being honest. I hope with time I can become less generic. This is only my 2nd anime piece, bc I only did alt styles for a while. Kinda miss doing it.
>>4291785
It's fine, Honesty is important for improvement

Itt: assholes lowballing things to passive aggressively tell you you suck

>>4291799
There weren’t really criticisms just crabbing.

>>4291810
Fair enough, but i'd rather get gud, I just take what I can get

>>4291811
You'll need to learn how to take genuine criticism especially from this heaping pile of a shit hole. You may have the coloring and rendering down to suffice coomers patronizing you however you lack form and the shape language necessary to pull off a stylized figure that is both fundamentally sound and pleasant to look at without going too much into detail throwing you into the uncanny valley.

As is, it is too western which is why you got those faggots reacting the way they were but if you're going for that western disney/anime mash up you've got to learn how to simplify forms while at the same time learning proper shape language that allows you to draw in an idealized manner. In order for you to do that, you must understand the ins and outs of a figure which means studying anatomy, form, proportion, bony landmarks, how form behaves when it is pinched, pulled, compressed, where muscles connect to and from and how they overlap each other which gives its distinctive looks and most importantly the gesture and natural rhythm which flows through a figure leaving behind a pattern that consist of S and C curves such as the Spine and knowing how to use the mechanics of foreshortening and overlapping forms such as T shapes and superimposed forms.

Fingers are atrocious, you have that annoying smile with piano teeth that screams a Rebecca Sugar influence, the shape of the head is a bean/anime hybrid which collides, ear placement is incorrect, you do not understand the abstraction of the nose behind the theoretical dot in anime noses for its tip, face is flat, eyes lack form, pectoral muscles are incorrect and not attached to the humerus, left hand is broken, belly button is disgusting, she has a belly bagina and the use of bold dark lines does not help in making it look more pleasant. Overall the entire figure is extremely unpleasant to look at because you have a flat western animu face slapped onto a 3dpigdisgusting swine that is disproportionate and stiff.

>>4291810
Now that’s what I call criticism.>>4291829

>>4291727
He has a really popular discord so that probably helped. I can only hope to one day get that many loyal followers

>>4291206
>you'd be hard pressed to get that quality for what he's asking anywhere else
I'm honestly interested where you're looking. I feel as though it's a bit on the high end. Maybe it's just that I selectively remember "extreme" cases where the art is obviously over or underpriced, but I think I've seen quite a significant number of artists with similar subject matter charging less for a lot more. I guess you could say the same for any artist though.
At the end of the day it's important to be able to assign as much value to your work as possible, which these threads don't really help you do.

>>4287044
Not trying to be a dick, but the tail looks like its lost a bunch of mass at the base.

Been hoping to get to a place where I can get commissions going.

>>4273470
how much should I price for each one of these individually?

>>4291829
Absoluetely nuked.

>>4295010
no ones knows if there is not reference art to evaluate

>>4273470

>>4297444
If you polished your fundamentals while keeping this aesthetics I think you could sell well for people like indie publishers, looks interesting to me, like old medieval stuff, even as it is it could work for metal bands, I can totally see this kind of art on a stoner Doom mental album cover

>>4297413
I don't have any current finished work, so here's the rough sketch thumbnails for the commission so far

>>4297485
The fuck is going on there?

>>4297488
sorry, image is upside down, was gonna delete

>>4297493
You should find a way to scan your work neatly or draw digitally before selling it online.

>>4297581
Yeah no shit, as I said before, these are rough thumbnails and will be digital.
C'mon, can you at least spit out a meme price?

>>4297701
Not the same anon, but you have to be stupid by asking a price based on scribbles, post a complete work you dumbass, people don't hire you based on your pencil and paper 2 min shit.

>>4297752
I am currently working on a paid commission and I don't know what to price it at, as I said before.
And, also said before, these are thumbnails, aka, me trying to figure out what it will look like, aka preplanning.
Either way, my "scribbles" got me a job, actually two, I have another commission after this one, also paid

>>4297798
Do you have any examples of finished work? That would be more helpful than wips. Also how large is the commission you're working on

>>4297460
thanks. I can already see ways to improve the fundamentals.
How do people advertise their art? Twitter?

>>4287382
>Sketch looks the same as "clean lines" for half the price
...what?

received a kit kat and a patty melt in return for this

This plus one with him cleaning a scar

>>4299194
Fuck this damn cellphone

>>4273827
$30 per character is reasonable, you could possibly get away with $40+ depending if you have a following

Do you guys really get money for this?

Aigh guys, how much for stuff like this?

>>4297444
I like the style a lot, I'll give you that...

>>4299422
A dollar...but even then I'd be getting ripped off

>>4299422
Thats not even your work, cocksucker

Price check for the new tier?

Shot: Fullbody + Extra Character (Companion, Mount)
Tier: Full Pencils (new tier)

>>4299219
Yes.

>>4290104
600usd.

>>4299756
remember to flip your canvas. the guy looks like he's about to fall backwards

also keep your hatching consistent, it's falling apart at the cat's shoulder + shaded leg especially

generally speaking how do people price work that has a human and say a dog? what’s the usual discrepancies?

i’ve never sold my work before and i have someone reaching out to commission a picture of him and his pet. i’ve never done animals before. here’s a wip, can you tell what kind of dog this is? i’m trying to practice so i can make the potential customer(s) happy.

>>4297394
30-45 USD at minimum, depending on how long this took. Really nice colours, btw!

>>4273470
I know i'm beg tier and have a long way to go but would anyone pay 15$ for this?

>>4276807
This is not even remotely true. I had no problem getting commissions with a No NSFW rule. Maybe actually work on improving your art instead of looking for shortcuts, lol...

>>4299858
I would pay 15$ for you to never draw anything like it again.

>>4273470
Did this free of charge for a friend. Regular pencil on paper.

Would anyone pay for stuff on this level?

>>4299936
No

>>4300028
Not enough skill? Not enough polish? Both?

>>4300042
both

>>4297394

Maybe separating the fingers a little more and giving more layer sensation in the clothing and I would pay $75 with no problem

>>4282455
It's a finished piece you could charge $90 for it, but not everyone would pay it since it's alternative

But I could see lots of people paying it too

>>4286389
>One big resource I think is indispensable is the Watt’s atelier.
>Listening to Jeff Watt’s commentary on George Leonard’s book “Mastery” is must for any who wants to study art.
Could you elaborate? Was that from one specific course, video etc?

>>4273888
You need to know that I laughed fucking hard at Bust Up

>All these $5 - $25 commissions
Where are you getting people to pay for these?

how much for linework like this?

>>4303203
that's actually very good, I would say $20- $25 each figure depending of the subject.

>>4303208
this is also considering you get a small market of people who like this artstyle

>>4302514
this, but $70+