/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>4276180
You're not supposed to copy you're supposed yo understand

>>4276181
you're basically symbol drawing

Not before eating your veggies anon

>>>/beg/

>Loomis meme

>>4276181
Copying is understanding.

>>4276181
>implying you're not literally copying everything you learn
Nigger, copying is all we do, that's how we go forward.
No need to reinvent the wheel if you can just copy the blueprint and create as many wheels as you want.

>>4276181
Copying this proportions chart was so helpful when I was starting out wtf.

>>4276399
The ability to copy lines and measure angles does not mean you understand what you are drawing.

You don’t understand what you are drawing until you can turn that object around in your head and draw it from any angle from your imagination. This is what understanding is.

>>4276613
The fastest way to learn anything is to simply put it on paper over and over again.
Whether it's drawing or writing, you can remember stuff better if you're actively engaged in it.
For instance, you can read as many anatomy books as you want, you might remember the name of some muscles, but won't have a clue how to draw them from any angle.
You have to copy stuff before you can really understand stuff, if you think you understand something without copying it first, you probably don't understand it at all.

>>4276613
He has a better understanding now that he’s drawn the zero proportions of the human figure. Which is an important exercise for drawing from imagination as well as drawing the figure from life...

>>4276613
You don't know what you're talking about

>>4277010
>>4276622
i've seen people post their hundreds of loomis studies then the moment they draw something from imagination it looks like a lumpy turd. not saying that copying that stuff is bad but beginners shouldn't get stuck down that hole

>>4276180
Its a start. Like the other assholes in this thread have pointed out, try to focus on STUDYING form, instead of copying.

This guy is correct >>4276181
I'm ashamed /ic/ is filled with so many brainlets.

>>4276397
>>4276344
>>4276399
>>4277010
Retards like you are the reason why this board skill level is so fucking low. So many fucking /begs/ in this shithole thanks to you fucks.

>>4276180
can you draw this figure at a 45° angle? With bent knees? raised arms?

Animation is unironically a good way to reinforce anatomy studies.

>>4276344
It's literal fucking fact that many of the great masters copied at one point or another in their careers. No, they didn't depend on it - although some think that some did more than others with some clever use of optics and light - but it's not going to flush all skills down the drain. Shit, many people "copy" bargue plates all the time to enhance understanding.

Learn a fucking thing or two. You're no Da Vinci or Michelangelo, cuck.

pyw

>>4279061
What are you talking about? I’m all for master studies, it’s one of the best exercises to becoming proficient.

>>4278721
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>>4277016
This is not the thread for drawing from imagination. Drawing from imagination is a culmination of knowledge from years of study and practice. All you people want to do is draw from imagination but yet you put no effort into what matters which is academic studies, at the the end of the day the client only cares about the end result and not the process. I’m not against drawing from imagination to see what you really understand but if you’re talking about it like it’s the highest form of art then you need to check your priorities.

>>4279271
Spoken as someone who never has drawn from imagination.

>>4279305
Well I mean, Peter Han talks about doing endless amount of life drawing and getting “accuracy” with in your drawings. He doesn’t just draw from imagination nor would he be able to if he didn’t do his copious amount of studies, both from life and masters. You will rarely if ever get any form of accuracy if you haven’t previously studied what you’re drawing.

>>4279271
>like it’s the highest form of art then you need to check your priorities

But it IS when it comes to actual commissions. When you get asked to draw, lets say, "a stealth fantasy female character lit from above wearing specific clothing and surrounded by an environment designed already by someone else from the studio", refs won't save you. You will never find a set of refs 100% accurate for such kind of illustration. Drawing from and without refs should be studied simultaneously, neglecting either one will have really bad consequences. This board is notorious for creating artists that spend 3 years of their lifes doing ref studies without creating a single original portfolio piece.

>>4279341
also

>>4279341
Like I said I’m not against drawing from imagination, but most people doing commissions will use references to do the best they can and students when starting out don’t have the knowledge on both subjects and fundamentals so they can’t really fix up multiple references and make it work. Much of what is said in art is highly contradictory, what a student of 3 years needs to hear will be vastly different from what the new student needs to hear. Drawing upon your knowledge (imagination) is important for all drawing, it’s not the most important, it’s just a part of the process. If you’re just getting into drawing the proportions of the figure then you shouldn’t be told to add complexities like rotating the figure and drawing your reference from different angles. Why do you think I said master studies are important? It’s so you can draw upon knowledge and use it in your own drawing. There are very few people who only draw from imagination, if any but a lot of people who praise drawing from imagination on ic, over exaggerate the skill and give far less attention to what’s really important in the beginning which is training your eye and hand dexterity.

>only few months on fundies
>already can draw from imagination

feels good to no be a brainlet

>tfw you went backwards on your skills after 4 years of break from drawings that you are ashamed to post even in /beg/
holy shit guys feels bad, i actually fell for the loomis meme and im gonna look through the sticky

>>4279367
Everyone can draw from imagination, brainlet-san.