/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>4275542
don't forget to resize your images. we do not want pictures taking up half the page Thx

been drawing for only a few months, I think the main thing I struggle with is holding the same perspective on what I see while I'm drawing.

why does the ulna and radius have to make the arm so complicated

>>4275555
arm reinforcement :)

>>4275548
sorry bro i don't think we can help you if we can't even tell what that is

>>4275560
been studying arms now. breaking it into parts and numbers and repeating it till i can do it without book and with memory before i twist and turn it

been studying arms now. breaking it into parts and numbers and repeating it till i can do it without book and with memory before i twist and turn it

>>4274327
>>4274445
Don't ask about the green one

>>4274445
Now that I've seen your corrected version I can definitely tell that I was off. I probably wouldn't make the same mistakes on similar refs but I'm wondering how I can properly see the form of the ref in the first place

Dunno if I’m beginner. Been drawing seriously since middle school . Anyway, here are some Nep Iece doodles from Christmas lunch/dinner

>>4275595
Sure do love it when I flip pictures only for 4chan to flip it again

>>4275597

>>4275598

>>4275599
Do you really need construction lines for heads when you've been drawing for that long? I've seen some artist that don't even use them

did not get to practice as much as I wanted to considering it was christmas, managed to make this tonight though.

>>4275595
>>4275597
>>4275598
I'd say these are pretty soulful. However, I would still say your beginner. What you have definitely learned is expressions, but your skill isn't necessarily showing through these sketches. Regardless, good stuff man, keep it up

>>4275658

I practice everyday but why does it still feel like I'm not doing enough?

>>4275670
How many hours?

>>4275671
1 hour mostly
sometimes 30 mins
sometimes 2 hours

Tried to copy something for the first time. Many mistakes where made, I honestly do not understand how the hand ended up the way it did.
Original picture: https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/2581602

>>4275675
>pic very much related

>>4275655
>Do you really need construction lines for heads when you've been drawing for that long?
I try to loosen up from construction, but I depend on circles for the heads unless I want a face that's further from anatomical correctness. Gonna take a lot of studies before I move out of the habit

Is there anything that needs to be improved on? also any tips on shadows.

Has anyone else tried this method for drawing faces? I think I prefer it over the Loomis method personally
https://youtu.be/QBv5z0Y2odE

>>4275709
loosen up on those curves, you're still playing it safe with that method

>>4275709
Neat video. Tried it. Got distracted, but realized that straight loomis was putting me in the wrong mindset, even though it’s helpful. It like, made me forget the details of a fave. Though I have no place to talk about this as if I knew what I was doing. I feel like it’s talking to jazz musicians and I only know of sevenths and standard changes but I don’t know how to do it.

Peanut anon here again, This is my second drawing of patty and I'm Looking for critiques on this one, I know the lines aren't perfect and the eyes are just a tad bit off.

>>4274399
My 1st Drawing of Peppermint Patty
>>4274424
Thank you again anon for the tip (I took reference from your changes when I was just about finished with the other reference I was using)

>>4275330
p based
>>4275378
Eyeball is huge
>>4275385
You're putting sprinkles on a shit cake. Scrap it bud.
>>4275477
Very nice
>>4275548
Is it supposed to be a brain? That's not how brain creases work
>>4275575
v nice but forearm is too big relative to bi/tris
>>4275658
Feet are uneven and generally too small, shorten the arm a bit and make hands larger.
>>4275675
Practice anatomy
>>4275678
Keep up the practice & sketches. Work on the jaw

>>4275709
idiot

>playing videogames
>suddenly get the urge to draw
>made this
Gonna make it?

>>4275906
Draw every day for 2 more years and then we'll tell you if you have the potential to make it or not.

>>4275906
welcome, but also read the stiicky (weird proportions, gesture stiffer than dick on nofap)

How do you keep going if everything you do looks like absolute shit? I don't get how I am supposed to improve if I even fuck up the most simple of exercises. I unironically draw on the level of a 12 year old

>>4275916
What do you mean weird proportions?

>>4275926
Just accept that everything you make will look like trash for a long time before you start seeing improvements.
Every good artist made a whole bunch of shitty drawings before they got where they are.

>>4275926
That's just part of the process I'm afraid. Anybody of age who has a desire to gain any semblance of proficiency is going to become frustrated when their skillset doesn't match up with their vision. All you can do is accept that you will absolutely fail and you will keep failing and take every failure as growth. Don't get caught up in the end of the journey because that's many thousands of hours away.
To end it on a positive note though I can say from personal experience that it becomes more enjoyable to study over time even if you have not yet reached your end goals yet.

>>4275929
yeah but most of them were kids when right? I didnt mind when my drawings were shit when I was a kid.

>>4275930

Alright thanks, I hope i will improve... Im not good at anything because I dont have discipline.

>>4275709
woah I just tried this method and it actually really helped me

>>4275927
kinda got that space marine look

is 250 boxes actually something that'll help me improve or a huge waste of time?

>>4275943
yes

>>4275943
maybe

>>4275943
It's an arbitrary number but doing at least 250 certainly can't hurt you.

>>4275943
Big waste of time

>>4275943
important for stuff like perspective. trust me it will help.

>>4275906
try gesture drawing, your figure is too symmetrical

>>4275154
>This does require the canvas itself be a good replica of your reference canvas. You can do this manually by getting the angle of the diagonal first, then drawing the canvas box to fit.
I don't really understand what you mean by this. Can you explain?

>drawing boxes is more fun than faces

I hate this

>>4275995
Why do you think bob ross only ever did landscapes?

>>4276005

>>4275723
Update after sleeping for 4 hours

>>4276013

>>4275694
Hey anon Happy New Year! You've got cool designs to work from but don't forget to be original.
Critique:
- Work on line confidence, you chicken scratch to much. Check out dynamic sketching by Peter Han on YouTube and do those exercises whenever you can.
- Study deer and deer anatomy.
- Don't draw on lined paper
- When crosshatching, start by drawing everything, EVERYTHING in one direction and angle then move on for darkening.
How to study:
- Do Peter Han home work at least 3 times
- Do a few pages of deer gestures

Links for studying:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgDNDOKnArk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHoqh27vQRw

The reason you shouldn't use lined paper is a matter of pride. That took you time to do and you should respect yourself and your art by doing it on clean paper.

>>4275856
You have some nice lines anon. This picture seems to be a bit small for my eyes, but thanks for resizing.
Critique:
- Decent at line confidence
- Faces are what you need to grind on
- Hands are hard and you hid one of them
- Looks like more than just a gesture so it needs shading
How to study:
- Do like 6-7 pages of gestures
- Do a few pages of hands
- Study heads, study skulls. Draw a few pages of heads. Check the sticky for Loomis heads.

Have a happy new year anon.
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Is it a mark of improvement that you are able to draw more than 1 full-figure drawing in a single day?

Is it a good idea you commit yourself in a schedule in which you draw whatever you like and then practice drawing fundamentals and shapes and vice-versa?

We are doing this.
We are MAKING IT HAPPEN!!!

>>4276071
This sounds dumb, but any mark of improvement, is improvement. Your second figure may not be any better than the first, but the fact is that you now have the endurance to do two.


Yes, it is good to build a habit for the parts of a hobby that you have to "practice", making it a ritual and second nature.

>>4276079
christmas is officially RUINED

>>4276043
What I love about this, is that you clearly love drawing and are having fun. DO NOT stop having fun and drawing fun shit.
Critique:
- The enthusiasm is awesome! You are still a beginner though and it shows through.
- Your lines lack confidence and purpose. I say this a lot "blah blah blah line confidence." You also have a purpose problem. Purpose means you put that line in that spot at that length at that angle on purpose. You have lines aimlessly running to connect faces.
- You also chicken scratch several times for basic lines
- Some of your gestures are quite good. The ones that use the least amount of lines and the curvy ones show you see motion.
- Your faces need a lot of practice.
How to study:
- Check out dynamic sketching by Peter Han on YouTube and do those exercises whenever you can.
- Keep grinding gestures. Do the equivalent of 8 pages of gesture.
- Read Loomis head and hands (see beginner books). Do 3 pages of heads
-Practice line economy. Line economy is using the least amount of lines to show the most amount of something. Pick a few gestures and AFTER you've gotten better at line confidence try and draw them in a set amount of lines.

Links for studying:
https://youtu.be/wgDNDOKnArk

> Beginner essentials
https://mega.nz/#F!sSYAxKqb!f2gWy-eQZJNvRfiUTu1ASA
See https://pastebin.com/riFtG6n0 for details

Hope that helped anon!

>>4276079
Make it full justification broski. Also your tenses jump around. Also you forgot a period at the end. And whats with the y's in that font?

>>4276086
Yeah, I know, it's currently a WIP. English is not my native language, also. I'm going to improve it before posting on pixiv.

>>4276083
Thanks anon! I appreciate the fleshed out feedback. I'll watch that and practice what you mentioned. Doodling got me through law school. Ha. I'm gonna save your post in a txt file.

>>4276079
>>4276082
How old are you retards

Ok finished product what's good and what's bad. I think I need to seriously work on composition.

>>4276108
have you tried bending your left hand fingers like that?
Also I like the colors.

>>4276090
>Twas the night before Christmas, and all through the house, not a creature was stirring, she even slaughtered the mouse. With a big meat mallet, and breasts popping out, she would come down the chimney, murdering about. With her fur and her feathers and her cute little nose, the screams of her victims is all that she knows. She's pure in a sense, but don't be too prudish, she'll drink up your blood and say thank you, she's ruthless. As I'm writing this now, in my other hand is my cock, because now I just wait for her biological clock. Mount me and scratch me, there's no need to rush, because whenever I think of her I start to bust. She would beat me and bruise me, but I am not bothered, because even if I'm dead, my children she'll father. And As I lay down, on this Christmas eve, I hear the family next door starting to grieve. Their tears bring me joy, and I hope she brings me a gift, because my johnny is hard, just thinking about her clit.

>>4276108
>I think I need to seriously work on composition.
Remove the gridlines for starters.

>>4275542

>>4276108
It's like your hard lines want to be at the front, but you keep putting shading and shit over them. Make a choice. Keep the lines, or don't, but if you do, keep them crisp. Also as far as composition, it's just that top like... inch or so that has a grid that throws it all off. If you have extra legs or the bottom half of alakazam, just shift it all down to where the blob thing's arm hits the very top.

>Beginner thread on /ic/
>Actual beginner works

WTF even /ic/

>>4276119
s-sorry f-for not taking doodling s-seriously until now anon.

>>4276079
>>4276108
>>4276115
>>4276119
Wait a fucking moment this is not the /beg/ that i know and love

>>4276132
begtard

la creatura de los hilos

How long does it take to get actually good ?
It makes me so happy to see quality art and its really frustrating to not be able to recreate that feeling with my own art
and whenever I'm kinnnda proud of something I'm the only one to like it
How long do I have to wait ?
Been drawing on and off for 4 month

>>4276139
https://vimeo.com/85040589

You'll never be as big as your pump.

>>4276139
>Been drawing on and off for 4 month
Draw for a few more years.
Don't get complacent and stangate into a shitty artstyle that you convince yourself is good (I'm talking about coomer/fetish/anime shit). Always practice the fundamentals and always critize yourself.
Remember - creating 'art' or having a vision is your last priority until you actually get good.

i drew this for someoen for christmas, what think?

obviously it wouldnt be the final linework or whatever I mean as the foundation for a finished drawing

would love some critic o w o

>>4276179
Clumsy but cute.

>>4276179
garbage

>>4276190
I think you need to explain why in order for it to be a critique

>>4276179
Should have written out the text! It's casual, so the font should match it. Give it some more soul. It's cute. Perspective is a bit weird, like I get that you did it that way to show off what was in the back but the wall line should be quite a bit lower.
>>4276182
The eyes are kinda large. Also your shadows are way too subtle and everywhere an edge is, as if to replace hard lines. More dramatic shadows would give it some more life and depth. Like, everything should have the shadow detail the nose does. The inside of the elbows, the wrinkles in the dress that aren't there. etc.

didn't ink it all the way because the ink in the metal nib would stop flowing, seems like it doesn't like waxy colored pencils

think i also heard that you can fuck up markers by using them over colored pencils, is it the same for fineliners? i reckon ballpoints ought to be ok

>>4276182
I like your colors and you’re trying to shade to convey actual forms which is great.

I would say work on your eyes. They look dead inside. I’d recommend not doing that white fade highlight thing and and making the pupils so small, even if it was apart of the reference it is your job as an artist to look at it and make it more aesthetically correct. The second thing is to push the limbs/pose! It looks stiff, don’t be afraid to push things- so more gesture drawing to get that looseness. Hope this helped. Keep going.

>>4275995
Faces are a bitch, the form of the eye is so complicated, especially combined with the face in space.

>>4276043
It'a heartbreaking to see how many anons here buy into the curvy way ot doing gesture, look into Bridgman's approach to gesture, straight lines to determine figure weight and balance will make your figures infinitely better.

>>4276182
just 1 tip but if you add a glow layer for the eye highlights, they'll look a lot stronger.

>>4276209
It's because a lot of people, including supposed pros teaching gesture, conflate gesture and rhythms. Two different things, two separate passes.

Practicing poses and shading.
Anyone using Autodesk sketchbook or similar can point me to good brushes for shading and coloring?

>>4276197
thanks anon

I know that there are a fuck ton of things wrong with this, including but not limited to: Hands, Clothing. Perspective, Basic Concept. But good god someone please teach me how to draw the end of the barrel I swear I've drawn over 50 circles and none of them seem right

>>4276241
based croquis cafe anon

>>4276252
Good eye lol

>>4275974
We don’t know what anon’s art looks like. Perspective is too advanced for a beginner.

>>4276251
make a circle connecting the two lines of the barrel, then make a smaller circle within that circle, leaving a small amount of space between the two, then shade the barrel so that it appears circular. I just tried to draw it but I'm 5 cups of coffee in and my hands aren't cooperating.

>>4276196
Garbage

>>4276202
You messed up the perspective in the legs, and hands. The legs and hands closest to us are way smaller than the legs furthest from us, also remember you can't achieve something being further or closer to us simply by making it bigger or smaller. The closer forms will always have a vp inwards the horizon line, and further forms will be more outwards. For inking I recommend a dip pen, if you like the set weight of a fine liner try a spoon nib, or the classic G if you want a flexible option.

>>4276202
I also have to add you deliberately flew away from your converging lines, most notable at the knees, why would you consciously bend it when you already made a straight grid for it? That defeats the purpose of making the grid in the first place. Look at the leg closest to us also, it's bending completely outwards, it's not how a mechanical piece operates. I highly recommend you try studying si and pler mechanical objects before you try to understand mechs, I also recommend you try drawing more organic objects also as they allow for more inaccuracies.

>>4276251
you really need to work on perspective anon

i worked with what you drew, but i'm pretty sure the gun is a bit disproportioned

>>4276267
Thank you anon, I will learn much from this

>>4276258
I swear to god I was trying to do this but the curvature of the circle always seemed too shallow but when I made it more pronounced it made the end of the barrel not look flat

>>4276251
You aren't supposed to be drawing circles, circles are flat. Draw a square in the perspective you need it in, so basically draw the gun in boxes that relate to what you want to convey in terms of design. For anything circular you find thr center of the square in perspective by connecting corners to corners, left top corner to bottom right, and top right to bottom left. The intersection determines the center, now draw an axis line going back to the vp of the comverging lines of the planes of the box you drew for the barrel. If that axis line you just drew going to the vp turns those lines you drew in the square to find its center make them 90 degree angles, you will now be able to make an accurate ellipses by connecting them all together with an ellipse shape. An ellipses is a circle, but in perspective always remember that.

>>4276262

maybe i'm retarded, but i can't understand what you mean

>The closer forms will always have a vp inwards the horizon line, and further forms will be more outwards.

if two forms are just translated in space, then their corresponding edges will still point towards the same vanishing points, irrespective of whether one is closer or not

also, the closer hand is supposed to be rotated slightly

>>4276266

again, i hardly understood any of what you said , but honestly i thought i had a pretty good grasp of perspective, so maybe it's just an issue of reading the picture wrong? the legs are supposed to have a zig-zag shape, for the record. otherwise seems like there are some fundamental issues i don't know about, anyways here's some other of my drawings

>>4276288
Not everything has the same vp, limbs like on a mech or a figure will be different. If you make an object smaller and one bigger to signify one is closer or further, but still have them pointing towards the same vp without the bigger one overlapping it will read like it's on the same distance, but one is smaller. You place a big box directly in front of us in the mide, and the converging lines are pointed as far as it can go on a sheet of A4 paper, it will just be a big close box. Now place another box that doesn't overlap the first one with its converging lines waaaay off of the paper, that box will read further than the first box. Even if the hand closest to us is tilting it's still reading as smaller than the furthest one, same with the legs.

>>4275597
Hello kitty0706

>>4275597
Have to screenshot the image

>>4276134
Hey anon, I think you're doing a good job, but I also think that this might help you a bit

>>4276309
>Not everything has the same vp, limbs like on a mech or a figure will be different. If you make an object smaller and one bigger to signify one is closer or further, but still have them pointing towards the same vp without the bigger one overlapping it will read like it's on the same distance, but one is smaller.

ok, i understand this far, but what you're saying is that despite something like, lets say a box, being correctly drawn in perspective behind another box, it will actually appear to be at the same distance from the viewer unless they're overlapping? because i can't ever recall perceiving such a thing

>>You place a big box directly in front of us in the mide, and the converging lines are pointed as far as it can go on a sheet of A4 paper, it will just be a big close box. Now place another box that doesn't overlap the first one with its converging lines waaaay off of the paper, that box will read further than the first box. Even if the hand closest to us is tilting it's still reading as smaller than the furthest one, same with the legs.

not sure what you meant in that first bit, but from the rest, if i understand correctly, you're trying to say that in order to make something appear further away i need to warp the perspective, effectively changing the angle of view on a lens? because that sounds very fishy, and i think you need to draw what you mean, chief, because it doesn't really make sense to me

hi, zelda loser from last thread. spoiler, i ALSO like zelda. so im drawing a thing. does the composition look alright this time? should I make the background more atmosphere color to lower contrast? any anatomical issues? ive just plotted out how im going to do the lighting but just on the skin. does that look okay? i am just wanting critique in general please. im still in an early stage so i can fix things

>>4276348
Link and the horse need to be moved to the right a bit more to fit a rule of thirds frame. Also the horse seems small because his head is closer to us but maintains its smallness I think? Somethings going on with the size of the horse but I don’t think I can crit well enough to articulate the flaw I’m perceiving.

>>4276332
If you're drawing your converging lines further off their placement it will be the opposite of warpped. I'll draw you something later I'm making deliveries at work rn. Yes it will appear at the same distance you'll be able to see the same amount of the top (or bottom) of the box indicating it's occupying the same plane. You can get rid of that if you determine the ground planes indicating it occupies another area in space, but then you will have the same points of cinversion creating a paradox. You can use that to your advantage though there isn't a right or wrong way to go about this, only ideas that seem good, and your ideas about how to draw the legs and arms in your mech designs aren't very good ideas since they aren't grounded to any fundamental truth. Try drawing these examples yourself or try to visualize it. As for you saying you never percieved it before that makes sense, you can't see something you don't know exists. Remember perspective gets warpped the closer your points converge also.

>>4276362
aw man thank you, i just checked the reference i used and the horse IS really small. thanks for catching that. i will move him to the right :)

>>4276348
The image is pretty boring, what is he looking at, why is his torso so square, why does his arm maintain the same size going back if the horse's butt gets smaller, why is his foot bigger than everything else, why doesn't Link have more exagerated weight shifting? It's a drawing man, you gotta make that shit exagerated and interesting, have Link twisting interacting with the world around him, put some drapery and unevenness in his clothing, make the horse big as fuck or something. Get creative!

>>4276348
Too much empty space making it look boring and disinteresting, his body looks flat. You could try to crop the image and just focus on link loooking forward, slightly downward toward the viewer. Put one of those animals slightly out of focus at front of him and the horse.
Here's a shitty example.

>>4276241
didnt draw the hands

>>4276368
i drew guidelines over my sketch, and they converge to a point. I discovered the back of the mech actually was a bit off, but honestly the legs don't seem that far off for a freehand sketch, if i moved that one joint in the back leg a bit back seems like it would be ok. same for the hands, really, though i do agree that the closer one could be drawn a bit bigger.

>If you're drawing your converging lines further off their placement it will be the opposite of warpped

yes, i get what you're saying, i just said warped because whether you're going from a very short focal length to a very long one, or vice versa, it is technically warping the original image either way.

>Yes it will appear at the same distance you'll be able to see the same amount of the top (or bottom) of the box indicating it's occupying the same plane.

well, if the farther boxes' respective edges point towards the same vp as the closer one's, it will still be smaller by area on the page or display, including the planes, so i'm not sure by what metric you're measuring the 'amount of the plane being seen'

>As for you saying you never percieved it before that makes sense, you can't see something you don't know exists.

sounds like you're mentioning techniques to point to the viewer whether something is further or closer, because without them the drawing reads wrong, but to me it never ocurred that objects drawn at different distances from the viewer according to plain 3 point perspective seem to be equally distant, so it sounds like a piece of theory that's prescriptive without actually being descriptive to me

anyways, maybe you could redline my drawing, perhaps that would be more elucidative, because now i'm really curious what i'm missing

>>4276386
ouch i'll take that. i admit my stuff gets a lot stiffer when im trying to do a bigger drawing and getting details right. i guess i don't exaggerate enough, i should probably work on gestures.

>>4276435
aw :( thats what i was afraid of and the reason i put the distracting moon in my last drawing. i tried to go with more of an open and grander world feel with ordon being surrounded by hills and all that? and i also tried landscape orientation because i was tired of having all my drawings portrait or square. i guess that's not working? should i add birds or some shit in the background or something to achieve that?

The fucking cat is always judging me.

>>4276441
Yeah I just got off work, I'll redline when I get home and shower to hopefully get these ideas clearly across

how the FUCK do I draw feet? Every single tutorial goes
>"draw the simple structures"
>"add the details!"
>proceeds to draw perfect lines and perfectly shaped toes

I don't know how to even start, I'm looking at a reference right infront of me and I can't get through my brain the proportions and shapes of the feet especially the toes. I feel like I'm wasting time sketching and erasing feet again and again with no progress.

>>4276448
Nigga, if you want to make it interesting with this portrait format you gotta go BIG. Put a fuckhuge dragon flying in the background directly above him, a mountain spewing fire, a dungeon, castle, anything.
You can give it a sense of grandeur if you are skilled enough to paint an interesting sky with clouds, leafs flying in the wind and stuff. But since you skill are probably limited at this point, just draw some fuckhuge interesting stuff.

>everyone's "before" pics are better than my current best

fugggg

>>4276449
I can see that, but the fact that you could capture this expression is pretty good.

>>4276474
Same. I stopped worrying though because my will of wanting to draw the shit that I like became stronger than that fear.
You just need to find your own motivator and make drawing into a habit like brushing your teeth.

You’re a fool if you post your art in this thread and I guess you deserve the humiliation.

>>4276472
fuck it im about to just redraw it. i got some problems with composition i gotta fix and i guess i will have to make the bg more interesting. birds n clouds and leaves and shit just u watch me. thx anons

opinion?

>>4276560
The rosy cheeks is a little over done and splotchy. It would be cool with harder vector lines. I like the hair and the little shine. The eyes seem a little big and the left part of her head seems to be a little squared off. shoulders seem a little narrow because there's nothing attached to her. Is this katawa shojo? I like it over all though. Better than anything I can do.

Guy that drew a bunch of doodles in one digital canvas guy here. Here’s a pen and paper. Jesus I feel like I have so much more control than drawing on literal glass.

Sonichu.

>>4276624
I can see the chu but i can't see the soni

>>4276560
garbage, eyes have no definition, the pupils are half assed, the eyebrows are placed completely wrong one is too close to the other,eyelashes look randomly placed, the hair looks like a cardboard, the neck and below are just trash.

yikers

>>4276631
>yikers
RED to the DIT amirite fellow pickle ricks?

can someone tell me what i am doing wrong

harsh critique please

>>4276684
You got lazy on the grass and it shows. Also the end of a tree wouldn’t be that large. That’s far too disproportionate. A lot of the line(specifically dark) you added on the tree are also sloppy and don’t help much. Your shading lines are wobbly and aren’t consistent. Also near the bottom of the tree it looks like you have a branch going inside of the grass and I doubt that was the intent. Don’t shade near the top of those small pieces of grass if you don’t want to make it look like it’s going inside of the grass. Put the tree branch itself and have the grass surrounding it, not doing what it’s doing now

>>4276693
here is what i looked at while trying to draw

Started drawing three days ago. I’ve drawn a tree, a pair of eyes a hand and this. Is this relatively unstructured approach to learning going to hurt me?

>>4276701
So I was wrong about the tree going inside of the grass but the critique still remains. Notice on the reference picture how the root and bottom of the tree is much more jagged and less circle shaped then you made it. It also has much more shading and goes into the ground. It isn’t flat on the bottom like you made it look. All of those dark lines you added on the tree can be made to look better by creating short dark lines with a curve to indicate the movement of that area of the tree. If you look at the bottom most line on the tree that you attempted to draw this it has a curve itself moving upwards. Try that

>>4276689
You just need to close your lines and have more line confidence

So I used to draw and paint a lot and I kind of fell off, but then my gf buys me an iPad Pro and an Apple Pencil + procreate for Christmas and i feel obligated to get gud now but I’ve never drawn digitally before. Are e there any good courses for procreate online? Or should fuck around on it untill I figure it out?

>>4276600

>>4276702
based savant

>>4276197
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>>4276224
owo tenk yall wiil think and try it

Foot study

>>4276758
No.2

>>4275834
explain

>>4276689
Does it really take an anon to tell you to zoom out when drawing so the perspective stays consistent?

>>4276689
Your collarbone and shoulders are shit.

How do I improve landscapes. If I just do a bunch of bob Ross paintings would that give me the tools and practice to create my own?

Pic related is my first attempt with acrylics.

how do I learn construction

>>4276834

>>4276829
Literally study rocks.

But yes following bob gives technique and the seeing the possibility of the canvas mind set.

yo

>>4275542
I am beg

Hit me with your hardest criticisms.

okay, rate me y'all please

>>4276842
Define "study rocks"

Are you talking about shape and texture or actual geology.

>>4276758
>>4276760
This is good, but I want to see less brush/pencil strokes in the sketch. When I draw with pen or do studies in a simplistic art program like MS Paint, I force myself not to give multiple strokes in one side. You are not chicken scratch terrible, but I kept getting distracted with the feet at the top left and how the toes have a lot of strokes. I am guilty with that from time to time, as unless I am rendering a sketch with shadows, I should not add extra sketch strokes to the drawing. Steve Huston is a great example of sketching with a minimal amount if strokes. I'm even currently looking at my own sketches where I did this correctly and incorrectly as well
Less strokes=less uncertainty/fear for the piece=more straight forward drawings

>>4276462
so... is anon ever going to deliver? and otherwise, can anyone else explain wtf that was about?

>fun
>with a pencil

this was my practice out of anatomy for sculptors for today
>liked huge boobs before I started drawing
>after drawing for a while realize large to medium boobs are the most aesthetic

Why is it bad to be a furry?

>>4276961
>surgically removed lateralis and rectus femoris muscles

>>4276961
sexy ;)

>>4276849
soul

>>4276829
Marco Bucci recently did a video on perspective that I think would help you a lot. Specifically at this timestamped spot of https://youtu.be/FmR_Q1mtS7I?t=193, he details exactly what you have done in your first attempt. Very helpful video.

Going through Keys to Drawing and it's going alright but I think I'm getting too obsessed with comparative measurements. I'm even using a ruling to try get things just right. It seems to be really helpful, but it's way too tedious and I feel like he doesn't want me to break out a ruler and try go for as much accuracy as I'm trying? Am I doing it wrong?

Oil portrait I did

>>4276991
thanks for the shot of dopamine and validation straight to my brain i appreciate it

>>4276944
How much fun can one man take?

this so hard to draw without references

>>4277123
But youre having fun with your pencil, right, anon?

how can one book be so based https://www.amazon.com/Art-Fear-Observations-Rewards-Artmaking/dp/0961454733/

>>4276887
Yeah with the first few feet I drew I spent too much time building volumetric figures and overthinking where the lines should go, especially with the toes. After a while I decided to just doodle with quick and minimal lines, to my surprise the feet came out better this way.
It's strange that I draw much more precise when i force myself to be less careful and more confident with the lines.

i feel like im polishing a turd

10 hours working on this piece. Feedback?

>>4277123
trash

>>4277190
ref? please

I wanted to mix what I just studied with some cool forms and before I knew I made some Sycra lmao i don’t deserve that

>>4276945
Good taste. Large boobs are for simple minded barbarians.

>>4277220
Also act as if you couldn’t see the very lightly drawn dick

>>4276945
>practice
>just a copy

>>4277207
there is none i did it from imagination. i sed this to help with anatomy and shading though

>>4277224
yeah that's my problem with this book, I'm too small minded to try and apply it in ways that aren't copying right now
any suggestions?
maybe I should try redrawing it from angles not shown in the book
but then how would I know I'm doing it right?

>>4277220

>>4277233
you got like 40 pages with shots of these muscles you fucking nigger

>>4277202
I like it, anon.
Although it does feel a bit too busy.

The biggest redpill is that you can draw anything at a professional level if you're willing to spend the time for it.
The only difference between an experienced artist and an amateur is that an experienced artist can do it faster, with less sketching beforehand.
If you don't believe me, next time you're going to draw something, do multiple sketches first, improve the drawing with each iteration.
Since these are simple sketches, you can be loose and experiment with your lines to see what looks better.
It could take you anywhere from 5 to 100 iterations depending on the complexity of what you're drawing, but I can guarantee you that the final piece is going to be exactly what you had in mind.
If it's not, you clearly haven't been improving with each iteration or you haven't done enough iterations.
It's a hard redpill to swallow, but trust me, bros, it's worth it.

>>4277249
It's not a red pill, it's actually a black pill. Only crazies do this. Can confirm as someone who's done it.

>>4276241
i use autodesk sketchbook and to me the best shadinh brushes are either the plain brush with low opacity or the airbrush

>>4277249
A beginner who doesn't have a developed perception of perspectives and anatomy won't be able to draw a decent figure even after many iterations. They won't be able to tell what to even fix in their drawing.

>>4277266
>A beginner who doesn't have a developed perception of perspectives and anatomy
That's the fun part, you'll realise that perspective and anatomy are actually super fucking simple.
You see the world in perspective, you've been seeing it in perspective your entire life, you have years worth of visual data, all in perspective.
The reason /beg/s fail at perspective is because they rush things. They don't spend enough time on the actual setup because they want to get into the details fast.
Same for anatomy, everyone knows what a human looks like.
You've seen humans your entire life.
You just have to take the time to use that information.

>>4277202
if you cleaned the mark-making up a bit this would look really nice

how many years from nothing to draw like this?
(srs)
https://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=566021

Can someone help me with this ? Her upper body especially. It looked cool as a silhouette sketch but the more I work on it the more she looks dislocated

>>4277355
did some changes
don't mind the right hand for now

>>4277190
Hey man your edges are fuzzy and wobbely, for example the doorframe is Something that should be one smooth unbroken line. If you're using photoshop just place your brush at the edge of the line hold shift and drag it along the edge, only works for exact horizontal and vertical lines however.
Secondly your values are a mess, you want to block everything in with a brush that has no or is low in opacity variation (opacity jitter 80-90%) so that you can block in with a single smooth value.
Then you work on transitions, on your figure they are quite harsh and patchy. I don't know if this is how other people do it but I just take the same brush I blocked in with and lower the "flow" to something like 1-5% (not in the brush-settings but in the brush toolbar up top) and then you just use the eye-drop tool and go to town.

>>4277249
>if you practice drarwing and use critical thinking you will get good at drawling!!

>>4276717
>>4276702
Same guy who did the horse, I did the upside down Picasso challenge thing. Feel like I’ve been exposed as the beginner I am. Somewhere along the way I just lost the proportions and it just got worse as it went.

>>4277366
you probably study anatomy a bit, but the big thing that I always mistaken which I think the mistake you are making is that the butt is not a part of the pelvis when in actuality, The butt IS the pelvis. meaning the bottom of the pelvis is also the lowest section of the butt. What you are doing is sticking two legs below the pelvis. Unless it's a taller girl in which case, you need to change the whole frame, make the shoulder wider.

>>4277271
Are you serious? What kind of fucking reasoning is this? Since you’ve seen planes all your fucking life can you draw one right now without reference?

There is a very stark difference between seeing things from day to day and spending time actually studying these objects and committing them to logic. If it was as easy as you claim, then everyone would be able to draw.

any feedback?

>>4277246
>>4277279
Thank you for the kind words anons. I was afraid it was getting a bit out of hand, or maybe I was overworking it but when I tried to clean it up it felt... empty? Not sure how to explain it.

Either way, thank you for the feedback. I'll keep it in mind.

I keep getting ads for a Udemy Complete drawing course by Scott Harris. Is it worth picking up since it's on sale?

>>4277229
That's actually a pretty nice ref

Anyone got feedback for me? A way to properly approach the hair would be nice that shit is killing me for some reason.

>>4277366
Very stretchy Torso, I'd do some studies on that as it is the most obvious flaw.
Maybe some bean exercises.

>>4277459
Hey anon I hope you are well! I like that this appears to be original art and it is a cool look. This is one of the few beginner projects that looks actually finished so I have a lot to say.
Critique:
- I can't redline because no tablet, but the thing that strikes me the most is your light source isn't defined. Look at the (robotic?) knuckles holding the staff. The light is coming from right to left yet your shadows are as if the light is front to back.
- Backgrounds are important. I know that's not what you want critiqued but it matters.
- The neck and shoulders do not line up. He looks like a turtle
- The Left thigh is far too small and the whole left leg should be shifted over a bit. The leg appears too long
- It's good to see some colour
- I don't think you should render things until after the proportions and everything is fixed. I mean even the hair is already rendered.

How to fix:
- Fix the neck and shoulders issue
- Readjust the legs
- Isolate light source
- Fix background
- Spear doesn't look like it's being held

This is a bit more subjective but the story is misplaced. For example, why would anyone sit like that waiting for food to cook holding a spear? The expression doesn't convey that there is danger near so it seems like he's just holding the spear because he doesn't have a place to put it...like the ground.

Don't give up and remember not to get carried away. Finished, not perfect. It's better to work on more projects than spend weeks adjusting one.

Advice would be greatly appreciate.Is the foreshortening wrong?

>>4275542
I'm designing a Superman expy as a basis for an ongoing project.

>>4277579
Wow, thank you so much! I didn't expect criticism so detailed... I'm so grateful for this. This really helps me a lot, I'll try to keep those points in mind for my future projects aswell!

Anyone have a good tutorial on gesture drawings ?

>>4277595
It doesn't really look wrong, but that torso isn't connecting well to the hips. Watch those proportions. You have potential.

>>4277190
Forget rendering for the moment. Your drawing is not properly developed yet.

>>4277653
What brushes and methods do you use to shade?

>>4277366
>>4277444
Tried it again from scratch
I feel like it's less dynamic but I try to pay more attention to the anatomy

>>4277693
I went this far with the other one

>>4277606
Glad you enjoyed it, I'm trying to help on /beg/ in my spare time lol

>>4277534
It's not. I have it. Nothing in it you can't pick up from basic beg books in the art book thread.

How am i doing boios,also any tipps on how to actually draw clothes?
Also ,I know the hands are akward but at least i have Loomis for that.

Wow, references are so much easier. Still shit, but wow!

>>4275804
I am confused. The stickie recommends that you copy drawings before working on anatomy?

>>4275804
>Keep up the practice & sketches. Work on the jaw

I will try my best senpai. I should probably draw from references instead of just doodling the same bad habits over and over again.

>>4277670
>What brushes
Hard round.
>methods
Traditional methods don't change just because one is working digitally.

I need some advice in this painting i'm planning to do.

I decided to make a painting with a pre-defined color pallete by the first time, so i made this thumbnail sketch to get my ideas sorted. It's a scene where my character is at the roof of a prison complex and there's a helicopter coming in the distance to evacuate him.

Thing is, the way the colors are bug me a lot. I chose blue and red because they make a good contrast, but i think there's way too much contrast in those colors, the character and the heli feel missplaced with the colours in the background.

What should i do? Should i change the colors? Should i stick with just red and yellow?

>>4277916
Red is not the color to use with blue.

>>4277916
Adjust the shade of yellow to match the colour here and add a bit of blue in as well. Trust me this will work out.

>>4277922
Thank you, will try it, friend.
>>4277921
Yess, i know that orange and blue are great, but it's so overused. I wanted to make something different using red.

which style is better, left or right? I'm stuck between the two.

>>4277931
Left has soul, but it's too sloppy. Right looks like a giraffe with straight lines.

>>4277931
Do you have any backgrounds in either style to compare?

>>4277936
Okey, I'll stick with the left style and refine it a bit. Thanks loads!
>>4277937
I'm trash at backgrounds. It's something I definitely need to practice and work on.

>>4277931
Right, the nose is fucked on the left for obvious reasons.

>>4277942
It's as if both "styles" are the same thing with positives and negatives for both and the artist himself should figure out how to find the Truth to his drawing capabilities and merge them.

>>4277943
You act like I disagree with this.

>>4277944
No anon, I wrote my post that way to prove a point to the original poster. I love u.

>>4277942
>>4277943
This has been a very inspiring experience for me. Thank you both.

Any feedback appreciated.

>>4276062
came back today and saw this. ty anon I will try to improve with your very helpful critique.

>>4278011
FEET FEET GIVE ME FEET

>>4278011
The foot is way bigger than the calf it's attached to? The hand is weird. her face is huge compared to the proportions you are trying to convey. And the butt of her hip of her left leg should be a little higher. SHe's fit, so her ass wouldn't be that fat to mold to the shape of her other leg, it would pull up a little bit.

>>4278028
>The foot is way bigger than the calf it's attached to?
Thanks for the critique.
What can I say, I like my girls skinnyfat.

>>4278028
Whoops quoted wrong line.
>SHe's fit, so her ass wouldn't be that fat to mold to the shape of her other leg, it would pull up a little bit.

Should I study hairstyles from life or from Anime?

Anime is much easier to copy but I kind of want a sense of realism to my hair (i.e. is affected by gravity).

I’ve only started doing copies of hairstyles but I’m wondering if copying hairstyles from life is not really the way to go.

>>4278051
Depends on what you want to do.
Do you want to draw stuff realistically or cartoony?
There's going to be people telling you that you have to study hairstyles from real life first before you can break the rules, but those guys are gainsgoblins who you should ignore.
Always strife towards your end goal.

>>4278070
I guess that means that I have to have some kind of vision of what I want my art to look like; my inspiration for wanting to draw, I guess.

I kind of lost my original inspiration though, to be honest. I started because I wanted to make characters for Visual Novels—I prefer writing over drawing—but I’ve since stopped reading VNs because they felt like a waste of time. I feel like I have to always be drawing and so reading a VN or watching an anime for an hour just seems a bit off putting.

I don’t know if I should try to revive my old inspiration or keep grinding instead. I’m a bit lost here. All I can really understand about drawing is the grind to this arbitrary goal of enough mileage to be able to draw what I want.

But maybe I should just stop focusing on copying from life and copy anime instead—since that’s what originally got me into drawing.

Is it really necessary to have a goal or should I just keep grinding?

>>4278107
>Is it really necessary to have a goal or should I just keep grinding?
You don't need to have anything super detailed set in stone, but just have a general idea of what you enjoy drawing.
It is definitely important to know atleast to a certain degree what you want to do.
Just look at most western anime artists, their art looks like shit and you can immediately tell that it was made by a westerner simply because they studied ONLY from real life and believed that they could magically draw anime once they can draw realistically.

If you're really not sure, you could always do a bit of both I guess and see what you enjoy more.

Spent 3 hours trying to copy something by eye, hiding the layer the reference was one every time I drew.
Was this actually beneficial, or was it just a colossal waste of time?
I'm reasonably pleased with the result, and I could use it for practice with coloring and linework in the future.

Drawing I scribbled down, criticism please? I already know about the helmet strap confusing the outline of person 2's scalp.

>>4278169
Vary the thickness of the outlines despite the obvious style choice. Cannot identify much.

>>4277229
I have been masturbating vigorously to this image for 3 hours. Thank you anon.

>>4278165
Second Drawing

>>4278173
thank you, i'll bear this in mind when i exercise this way next

>>4275542
its a very sad alcremie but i only just started trying to draw like a week ago lmao

>>4277224
Yea, this looks like someone who just copies shit without actually understanding everything.

There should be way more notes than the pathetic amount you have right now.

Please help I feel retarded... values are so hard :(
I wanna stop creating polished turds.

>>4278203
Can you tell what he doesn't understand?

>>4278208
Can you blend the shadow transitions any more? The hard lines look cool, but I also think that some of your tones are blended enough, just some parts where you have hard lines are causing it to look a lil weird, like the middle girls thighs, moon light isn't normally that bright and would be more uniformly mellow over time. fuck words are working right now. Those look cool anon, keep up the good work.

ok boys. is it normal to get really bored of drawing all the time? like you love drawing and its fun for you and you would like to do it but whenever you start you get really bored and its hard to go on with it? am i ngmi if this is how i feel all the time?

>>4275542
been studying arms and am proud i can finally attach it properly. now i just gotta force it into my head

>>4278222
Thats not a moon, it's a ventilator with lights.

Thanks I'll keep your tipps in mind :) I guess I'm afraid to loose the form so I'm afraid of blending more.

>>4278227
I ever only have that feeling before starting to draw, once I started I have a hard time to stop at all.

Not saying you're a ngmi but maybe draw something you enjoy more?

>>4278227
In the modern age, doing anything where you just consume things is far easier and provides more positive reinforcement than doing anything else. Doing things is hard. Doing things takes fortitude and stamina. Playing guitar makes your fingers bleed and voice go out if you do it too much. Lifting weights more than you should can burst a bicep. Drawing too much can cause hand cramps and headaches. When you reach this point of exhaustion in an active activity, take a mother fucking break. This is why people imply you should rest/sleep by telling you to practice every day instead of once a week for 6 hours. the brain transitions newly acquired information into long term storage upon sleeping/repetition over time.


If you are never doing it because youre bored of doing it before you even start, you have motivation and self control issues and you need to go "consume" some youtube videos about how to get your shit together.

last picture i posted was to bright. Been studying arm and attaching it. need to learn to remember it now

>>4278231
I meant the moonlight coming out the window in the middle one.

Also loose is for pussies, lose is for losers.

>>4278230

Anon these are pretty... not good. Please learn again before remembering anything. Start with the basic form and attach the muscles after...

I've been doing Aguri's guide but instead of Erik olson i've been looking at Vandruff's chalkboard series. I can understand the videos but I have no idea what I should be practicing on my own.

What exercises should I do for perspective?
should I keep practicing gesture drawings along side it?

>>4278243
Post some art so we know what to recommend

>>4278203
well I didn't need to write a paragraph to recognize that obliques bulge out more on males or that middle sized boobs point the highest, seeing as that's exactly what the book told me

>>4278244
Here's that latest thing I did
I don't like it at all but I'm glad I drew it

>>4278240
really. is it that bad?
are the arms bad or is it just everything. I'm learning from morpho if he isn't good i don't really know who to go to

>>4278244
And here's one I spent more time on although it's still pretty bad.

>>4278248
Well it seems like you're just copying stuff without understanding it. There's 0 weight to your drawing. I can only recommend Michael Hampton - I love his "Figure Drawing - Design and Invention" book... maybe it could help you. I have no idea who Mopho is...

>>4278247
>>4278250
Honestly same tipp for you... if you wanna get better learn forms, and if you want to learn humans, pick up Michael Hamptons book...

You're really outline heavy and you don't seem to have any fundamentals learned yet... Loomis books are also good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T7cDY7YDsg Maybe this video helps you with understanding what forms are.

I'm brand new to drawing, and I'm trying to follow exercises in books like drawing on the right side of the brain and keys to drawing. Should I continue or keep trying the exercises when my drawing turn out horrible?

>>4278257
Show us what you've been doing so far

>>4278257
keep going you're not going to fully grasp it unless you keep on practicing.

Made some posts last week about getting into water color.
Got my sketchbook in the mail today and decided to start out with that exercose again.
I still need to learn how to mix my colors correctly, but I'm surprised at just how much the right paper improved how the paint looked.

>>4275542
Been working on gesture and breaking up the human body into simple shapes. I’m using hamptons book for gesture but it’s overwhelming me :(

I made some posts last week about getting into water color.
Thanks for the anon rhat gave me pointers.
Got my sketchbook in the mail today and decided to start out with that exercise again.
I still need to learn how to mix colors accurately, but I'm surprised at just how much the right paper improved how the paint looked.

>>4278266
Keep going, it's overwhelming but helpful.

Work with references, try to find the forms in those. That'll help the chaos.Also don't pressure yourself into getting anatomy perfect right away.

You're on the right track anon. Don't forget to have fun while drawing and doing some things you love aside from learning!

>>4278254
>Well it seems like you're just copying stuff without understanding it.
i do that sometimes as a brainlet and was using a reference . but i do learn from morphos book that teaches what each part are from the deltoid, tricep, and bicep. i just have problems remembering it from time to time.
>>4278254
>There's 0 weight to your drawing
weight?

i did this mew for sum1 wot do u think

>>4278254
What does outline heavy mean?

And I have Hamptons book but i'm not sure how to use it, what should I be practicing with it?

>>4278273
Thank you! This was actually with references. But yeah Hampton just has so much about gesture but I’m taking it step by step to get better. And thanks for reminding me to draw for fun, I forget that drawing isn’t all about practice.

>>4278277
It teaches a deep anatomical understanding of the human body and how the forms interact with one another so use that however you desire

Think I drew the mouth a bit too high
So once I learn all this loomis stuff I can start breaking his rules and find my style, right?

>>4278289
Don’t chicken scratch so much

>>4278292
aight

>>4278275
Well before even starting with the muscles, lay down the foundation gesture to form. Have all the keymarks visualised. Than add the muscles.

These are some photos from the Hampton book, also a site about weight - I dunno if you can read the photo, basically your character should feel like it exists in gravity and wouldn't fall over - unless it's moving, like running quickly or something.

Like I said I don't know Mopho's book, maybe it covers the same topics.

>>4278277
Outline heavy means you're not thinking in forms, so stuff like foreshortening and creating depth gets a lot harder. The book should be able to help you with that... Start with the gesture drawings. That's what the book tries to teach you:

1. Have an idea, draw the gesture, just a stick figure will do
2. Think about the balance and weight of the figure
3. Forms, and landmarks, this is basically the first time you should worry about anatomy.

Until you feel comfortable with these steps, repeat them. And still try to have fun with it. It's ardous at first but will pay off.

The whole other stuff in the book, the detailed anatomy descriptions and all are for later... try to think in interesting gestures and forms first. If you seperate the chapters like that it's not as overwhelming.

I hope this helps you.

>>4277945

>>4278289
Wait, is this your attempt at using the loomis method?

The top of the ears should match with the brows. The bottom of the ears should match with the bottom of the nose. And the bottom lip should be around the halfway mark between the bottom of the nose and the jaw.

>>4277101
Downloaded some reference books and found some picture tutorials on imgur too.


REAL ACTION POSES IS AWESOME

>>4278320
Oops. Pic here.

>>4278289

>>4278323
Why so srs?

Just did these (from left to right)
Can't tell if I'm getting better or worse

>>4278328
Progress happens over time with peaks and valleys. It’s hard to tell the difference between an 8.5 and an 8.55. But it’s way easier to tell between a 6 and an 8.5.

>>4278314
woops, you're right
>>4278323
tysm anon (not sure if you're the same as the above)

>>4278322
>>4278320
Also, I found a thick leather glove that lets me rest my hands on the iPad. Way easier.

>>4278247
>Cookie Run
>Cherry Cookie
pretty based taste

>>4278322

>>4278301
So I should try to draw a gesture from imagination, then try to give the figure balance and weight(not sure what that means) and then try to construct it.

how will I correct my inevitable mistakes?
should I not worry about them and "just draw"?

>>4278358

>>4278382
Did you even read what the anon wrote.
Ofc you are supposed to stick to the book and try things out a bit, if things don't turn out right, use references, but this is all far from "Just draw"

> Have an idea, draw the gesture, just a stick figure will do
You can also use a reference for this

> Think about the balance and weight of the figure
Also you can use a reference

> Forms, and landmarks, this is basically the first time you should worry about anatomy.


>then try to give the figure balance and weight(not sure what that means)
Read the book "Center of Gravity"

>>4278389
Left one without Ref right one with Ref? The dude looks terrible.

>>4278391
Yep, you guessed it.

>>4278411
I suggest drawing from ref for the next two months.

>>4278267
Work on drawing accurately before you even look at paint

>>4278236
It feels like you're letting the small details take control of the general shape of the arm. Meaning you construct the arm muscle by muscle like a Lego. What you should be doing instead is define the space that the arm will be occupying and its general shape. This will prevent the clumpiness and size inconsistencies that you currently get.
This goes for every body part not only the arms.

>>4278476

>>4278550
resize

new

>>4278563
>>4278563

>>4278498
Yea.

i do that so i can erase it later and have the arm shape needed.

>>4276600
Hey anon sorry that your post got a little lost, but I got you!
Critique:
- I appreciate the attempt at construction but it needs a lot of work
- I harp on this a lot, but newbies, myself included, need to work on line confidence. I mean look at the left thigh. It pinches towards the dick and has a ton of lines everywhere instead of a constant flow.
- Your hands need more definition... but man hands are hard lol
- You cheated bro. Where da feet?
- YOU MISSED ZYZZ TATTOOS
- You symbol draw a lot, the face the feet the legs

How to Study:
- Check out dynamic sketching by Peter Han on YouTube and do those exercises whenever you can.
- You desperately need to do some gestures. Go find a gesture generator on bing and draw like 10 pages of gestures
- You symbol draw. You don't draw what things actually look like just what you think the look like. Read the first couple chapters of Keys to Drawing by Dodson or Drawing on the Right side of the Brain. Personally Dodson was more accessible for me.
- Read Loomis head and hands (see beginner books). Do 3 pages of heads
- Don't draw on lined paper

Links for studying:
https://youtu.be/wgDNDOKnArk

> Beginner essentials
https://mega.nz/#F!sSYAxKqb!f2gWy-eQZJNvRfiUTu1ASA
See https://pastebin.com/riFtG6n0 for details

>>4278807
Not him but you seem to know what you're talking about, could you post some of your art?

He is very bad drawing 0/10

>>4276288
>>4276202
These are really cool drawings. I don't know what >>4276309 >>4276368 >>4276266 is talking about with the limbs. They look correct to me.

I love to draw mech and other mekanika too. I am not too good at it yet,
I learned a lot from your drawings. Keep up the good work and posting more please, more mechs in this board is in win in my book. I kinda want to pick your brain about how you progressed (how you learned/practiced etc) and your process or any learning material you might recommend.

>>4277202
I also like this, nicely done. Really good composition. It is kinda busy but that nice negative space feels refreshing on your eyes I agree. As far as lone work I agree with that other anon work on your line control but don't sacrifice too much of that loose feeling you have here (it's nice). Some spots your line work looks pretty good and other not so much (i.e. the steps in the lower right hand foreground feel really good).
Something else, I did notice a small issue with the perspective in the middle ground with the the structure on the left and the step in front of it. Since the you made everything lead your eye to the foreground even though it was a small mistake it was really noticeable. I really like this piece, has a good feel to it. Keep up the good work. Also is this ink, I am not sure?

Drew a landscape

>>4280164
Thank you so much for the feedback, anon. I appreciate it a lot. I definitely see the issue with the perspective now that you've pointed it out.

> Also is this ink, I am not sure?
It's digital actually, but I've been working very hard to replicate the way my work looks in traditional ink. That's where I started and I've been very careful not to lose the feeling of it.

>>4275542
Not happy with this one

My coloring is still shit along with everything else

I think I'm going to give up

WIP, no ref, imagination only. Would like feedback please.