/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

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>>4273331
Is it normal not wanting to fap to your own work anymore? Maybe it's because you get so emotionally attached to it you don't want to lose that passion, mystique and interest in the piece? Anyone else experiencing the same taboo?

>>4273331
Op holy shit you are a huge faggot for making this thread.

>>4273345
How come it's always begs who feel the need to throw with feces.. is it because their art is not powerful and meaningful enough to speak for itself?
I mean actually good artists don't feel the need to look down below them, neither to waste a sliver of energy brown nosing through other artists activities for fuckin peanut attention lul

at least post something like "h-haha look at this video where I demonstrate how pewdiepie's merch designs suck" and there you have the attention you were so desperately craving for, or at least one type of it

>>4273331
Does anybody here tried making their own animation cel? Planning to make a picture with 2-3 layers but I have no idea how I could preserve it

>>4273378
Iron them with a cotton cloth in between the iron and sheets.

>>4273353
This one's better than the other one

What is a good art mentality?

>>4273702
learn to fail ready to learn

what is the difference of not liking a method or not liking it because you are bad at it? i'm really hate using the loomis method but now i'm doubting myself if it is just because i'm bad at it

>>4273702
Just draw

>>4273702
>try to appreciate the process and not just the end result
>venture out of your comfort zone once in a while
>make a habit of noting after each drawing what you could improve, even better if you actually do redraw it with the corrections

one is to not burn out and have fun, one is to not stagnate and gain new skills, and one is for incremental, steady improvement

>>4273331
What is the correct way of going about learning anatomy?

>>4274144
1. Copy anatomy book
2. Draw from imagination.

>>4273331
How many people actually masturbate to their own work?

>>4274205
that's a sin, anon. it's like you've committed incest in noncy.

Am I retarded or is it harder to draw from life/study with a tablet on PC
It always seems really hard to me while traditional comes easier.

>>4274222
your eyes and hands needs to be re-calibrated.

Peanut anon here from the other thread, I drew peppermint patty I realise that I need to stop chicken scratching and straighten my lines a bit.

Please Critique.

anyone knows how to batch/bulk download twitter media (with/without captions)? I'm purging my account

>>4274388
complete your drawing first and then ask again.

>>4274389
try a bulk uploader/downloader?

I don't really know myself just saying

>>4274390
The Reference I used pretty much ended there.

Is it best to complete this drawing from what I've learnt or use more references?

>>4274388
Ooops.... I put this is the stupid questions thread,,,, guess I really am stupid...

Well I'm moving this to the /beg/ thread sorry fellas

i just downloaded photoshop. is there a way to 'blend' by painting one color over another with a painterly brush like in paint tool sai? I've grabbed a bunch of brush packs already but nothing comes close to replicating the brushes I use in sai

I've read and practiced most of the fundamental books while also practicing them in a decently short time without burning out. But now I'm doing loomis and I'm already getting really lazy and am struggling to do loomis heads. Should I just take a break from doing them for a while and just draw stuff I want to draw. I'm afraid I'll forget everything I've learned

how do I improve forshortening specifically in human figures.
Buildings/objects is easier, but I'm "sensitive" and careful about how the body looks, and I accidentally don't want to deform too much.

>>4273347
yes and is not a taboo, don't be retarded. Is called be proffesional with your work, is an habit

>>4274425
no don't stop, never, just reduce the amount if you are bored with the shit, or use your brain and create different approaches to the subject.

Should I keep reading this book or is there a better alternative for weeb drawing?

>>4274895
me dumb dumb, picture didnt upload

When i'm drawing with a dip pen which way should the nib be facing as I draw, and should I spin the pen as I I draw curves to keep the same side of the nib on the leading edge?

Does this animation style have a name? I've seen a lot of kids books and cartoons use it, lots of circles and bold outlining

What method is this?

>>4275122
Vector?

>>4275125
t. illiterate anon

>>4274425
never thought i'd run into that image again

>>4275132
Please tell me

will i get better at drawing with a tablet

>>4275140
If your traditional skills suck then no. Of course, with a tablet it may take time to adjust but if your pen grip and skills are already good on paper then it shouldn’t be a bad transition to digital.

>>4275146
>then it shouldn’t be a bad transition to digital
guess i was worse than i thought

How do you tell if your improving?

>>4275150
By drawing more

>>4273331

>>4273374
Not a big fan of him, but he's clearly just doing it jokingly from skimming through this.

He's basically just making tutorials, but masked as an ironic "roast" of other artists, when it's really just a style comparison (fine art vs. animation, etc.)

If he really wants to get personal, he could've brought up the kangaroo incident or any other proko's actual pitfalls. This is just preschool level of roasting compared to any Proko threads on /ic/.

His moderndayjames vid felt close to an actual roast though.

What're some exercises to help a dumbshit like me to keep myself from drawing the figure progressively larger?

>>4274389
chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/twitter-media-downloader/cblpjenafgeohmnjknfhpdbdljfkndig
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I like this one a lot, shoves everything in a zip, and I think they're also pseudo timestamped.

>>4274401
You can do this with a smudge tool with light pressure and scatter. I think it comes out best when the brush tip is textured. I have a sponge brush with this setting that works very nice. It's modified from a K*le set, I think.

this isn't really related to drawing or anything of the sort, but i have no clue where else to ask.

I'm trying to stitch double page spreads together in CS6, and I wonder if I can make an action that does it for me. I can make one that just rearranges one page and changes the canvas to the correct size, but I still have to drag the other one and align it. Can that last step be done in the same action even though I have to drag the image from one file to another?

>>4274389
If it's your own account you can just request an archive in your Twitter settings.

>>4273331
How the fukc do i get the colors of my ipad to match the ones of my monitor?
Whenever I export a painting from my ipad to my pc the colors don't mathc, more desatured and lighter values. how do i fix this?

>>4275801
you should set your monitors colors to match the ipad and not the other way around, retina doesnt lie. theres a reason so many graphic designers stick to apple.

>>4275845
>monitors colors to match the ipad
and how do i do that?
I've been working for a while with this monitor and the colors seemed just fine. haven't had any problems with clients about wacky colors either.
So I'm really confused about this

I dont get the crab thing, plz explain

>>4275942
just an annual challenge to draw crabs, the post-reddit contamination and influx of newfags plebs of /ic/ posters for discouraging each other to make it.

>>4275949
Ok thanks

Kind of related to art.
Gonna buy a drawing tablet with a screen from amazon.


Added the money to amazon.de (denmark) from a gift card,so they're in the account.

Can it still ship to bulgaria if im using the denmark amazon?

What book will help me learn to draw huge tiddies and render huge tiddies

>>4276279
There's that guy on youtube that has an anime boob tutorial with the british accent.

>>4276017
denmark is dk, retard yuropoor.

Where's the point where all the lines converge?

I'm fucking sick of colouring and rendering digitally because I never seem to get it right

>>4276370
wtf is ".de" then o.0

>>4276764
Germany I think

>>4276017
You should be able to. I buy weeb shit from amazon.co.jp, and it ships to me in the US without any problems

>>4276764
De for Deutschland, which is Germany

>>4274110
help

who is loomis?? :00

I feel like I should try to do a comic again. How do I pick what to draw a comic about?

>>4277070
maybe about the tales of the stars?
https://youtu.be/r7A47XRgnmw

>>4277070
you could do a section of a book you like.

>>4275183
I get ya, still it's just such an obnoxious thing to do even though I don't really follow proko as well

If i grab pro artist sketchbooks or study books, redraw them and do studies in my own sketchbook and then sell it, is that stealing?

>>4273331
Should you learn Anatomy before learning gesture/figure drawing.

I feel like it would make more sense to know anatomy first before jumping into figure drawing.

>>4277338
yes. also if you have to do something like this to make decent art your copies would probably be shit anyway.

>>4274110
Try other methods and if you suck just as hard at those than it really is just you. If changing methods improves your output without compromise or shortcut then the method was a bad fit for you.

>>4274205
I do sometimes, but not as much as I used to. That's mostly because I get more done if I fap before drawing.

>>4277364
No, gesture/figure first so that you can get a general idea of how to construct people, however stylized or simplified you want, then anatomy will fill in the gaps. At least the basics of figure drawing.

>>4273331
I'm designing an archetypal cape character who is supposed to give high levels of MILF energy; which of these proportions/styles would be good for an ongoing comic?

I bought the pale pastel set of Copcis, but now I’m like, how am I supposed to make a picture with just these. My color theory is shit so, what do I do?

reposting from other thread:

how many years from nothing to draw like this?
(srs)
https://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=566021

>>4277548
Updated version, I think I'm starting to like the one on the far right side.

>>4273331
Why do Sai people apply a texture to their lineart pen when the end result is normal lines?
Does Sai 2 handle textures differently then Sai?

>>4277792
Sai 2 has way more textures then the first one. I think it's a preference choice. I noticed the texture lines are more of a popular style choice for illustrations.

can you recommend me a good scanner under $200?

>>4277562
colour the part a bit, add some water with brush. let it dry. and repeat

How dark should my background be? 50% black?

How exactly do I like draw what I wanna draw with no skill? I know alot of people say as an absolute beg you should just draw and draw alot so it becomes a habit, then work on actually improving later, but im having issues with the just drawing part. Do I just draw from imagination without knowing anything? Do I just copy images of things I like?

How do you organize/store inspiration, reference, images/art? Clippings? Tumblr? Insta? Pinterest? Camera phone? Save the files (what's your fold structure look like?)

>>4278251
Copy.

I've been browsing /ic/ for the past couple of days just trying to collect all of the material to get started and I've noticed that some people mention "You should just focus on human/anime shit if that's your goal."
But is it really like that? I've always had this idea that they study the basics and once they've honed it long enough, move onto their anime skills.

I know this question sounds cringe as fuck but it's something I can't wrap my head around.

Are there any good videos that talk about/demonstrate how to draw fictional characters accurately? I want to draw fanart of the characters from cartoons I like but I find it really hard to do so and don't know how I should go about it, especially when there aren't proper character sheets available.

Can you put gouache from the tube in a palette and leave it dry and then reactivate it after some days with water?

>>4278526
If it's not acrylic gouache, yes.

>>4278551
Thank you. I just felt it was such a waste to throw all that unused paint. It was my first time with the medium.

>>4273331

Dumb question here: Where do you guys go to when you need references? In which sites do you go?
Both I and pinterest suck peepee and I was wondering if any of you knows better places where I could go to.

Any extensive tips or guides for blocking in? Color specifically, although i might just be too stupid to see the transitions between colors

>>4278598
https://www.quickposes.com/gestures/random

oh-hi.info is also pretty good, but not for poses

Now that i'm kinda comfortable with gesture. What comes next? i still feel in some aspect my gestures are lacking, but do i move on to another subject while doing mini studies for gesture or should i devote more time to gesture. I'm planning to study some compositions from SVS Composition & Story telling and then study head and portraits drawing.
Pic is examples of my gestures.

Is it worth spending $250 more for the 2019 22" Kamvas? I would have gotten the 2019 20" but the screen response rate is 25ms

>>4278407
Literally the most common critique you'll see here is "needs more fundies" or "LOOMIS".
They are the basics you need to hone for drawing humans, besides below /beg/ shit like (simple) perspective and drawing boxes.
You just gotta know what you want with your skills to find out what you need to focus your studies on. As in: animation, comics, concept design, or fetish porn.
There are countless western-anime-styled above-the-thigh 3/4 cute girl drawings without backgrounds, so don't expect much from that field though.

anyone got that
>its porn
copypasta about this board?

>>4273331
I just need to know if this is a solid start at rendering this face or if it's trash and I should restart? I fucking suck with color, but need to start forcing myself to actually do things besides sketch.

Is there anything good about it so far? Anything terrible? What should I do to fix it if there is? I always feel like adding color never does my sketches justice, and discourage myself from continuing to render them.

>>4278877
Just like rendering, your workfocus goes from blocking in and defining shapes to smaller and smaller details, start practicing smaller pieces of anatomy. I'm assuming if your focus is gesture and not anime bullshit, your goals are realism or stylized realism. Perhaps start practicing muscle groups and skeletal anatomy. Understanding how these overlap and the shapes they make underneath skin is a good thing to be good at.

>>4278414
why do you want to make it 100% accurate? fanart is most interesting when its in another art style

what's the difference between the cheapest ipad w/ pencil ($430) and an ipad pro ($1,300), art-wise only?

>>4279121
it looks fine to me. if it's supposed to be a little kid you miught want to put less definition on the nose.

>>4279121
Also, if you're willing to adjust the lineart this late in, it might be good to make the neck have less of a vase shape, even accounting for stylisationfor a very youthful character ideally you want those broad shapes to be more chunky and rounded, kids (and by extention childlike characters if that's what you're going for) aren't made of very elegant, intricate shapes.

>>4277563
>https://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=566021
3 months

>>4279546
Laminated screen, bigger screen, higher refresh rate and more performance which allows for more layers.
I don't know if the last point is still valid but it was the case with the first normal iPad that supports the pencil and the 2nd gen iPad Pro. The new Pro also only supports the 2nd gen Pencil that can be charged in a non-retarded way.

resorces on learning art history?

How do I get started in learning to paint?
I've worked tonally in charcoal/chalk, studying primarily from Huston and Vilppu. I feel I'm ready to start working in paint but I'm not sure where to start and the basics of it...

The medium I've found myself liking the most is gouache if that helps.

>>4279858
painting is incredibly easy
Basically, you arrange a mosaic of shapes of colors, and a picture emerges.

I don't understand how to paint skin in any medium. Its so frustrating, because i mainly draw portraits. I can do gray scale fine but when i have to add human skin tones i just dont know what to do. where do I start?

>>4279926
you can try to do photo studies but don't use the color picker, try to match the colors so you can train your eye and get a better sense of what colors are present, idk

I lost my will to draw

Is there a good perspective grid plugin for PS CS6?

>>4279958
Then go looking for it

whats a good site for drawing models and references?

how to actually start rendering any guides there
i need a start point like what brushes to use techniques etc.

>>4279547
>>4279557
She's like, 17-20 age. It's more apparent when you see the body as well.

I'll mess with the shapes though. Also i'm fine with changing the linework, it's just a guide. I plan to remove it completely. Thanks anons.

>>4280061
google search "ctrl paint". Free guides to the basics of rendering.

Your first year or so of rendering digitally should be spent entirely using hard round. Anything you want to paint can be done with hard round. Textured/shaped brushes aren't something that will help you. They're useful for people who are already skilled renderers to achieve certain aesthetics quicker. You're not at the point you need to worry about that yet if you're just getting into digital painting.

(i wish someone had told me this when I started)

How do I ty to daw something that I can't find decent ref for th pose? Pic related is an extremely poorly done thumbnail of the pos

>>4279437
Well I would like to draw characters accurately first so I can hopefully get used to them and know how to draw them in different poses not available in the source material.

>>4273331
Is it bad to draw in bed, or even while laying down? Most guides I read tell me I need to have good posture, and preferably draw on an easel, but sometimes I want to get cozy and kick back in bed

>>4280683
Take a picture of yourself/look at yourself in the mirror.

>>4281281
I would say "yes". I don't because I don't like to do anything in my bed that isn't sleeping. I might scribble something quick if I need to get an idea out before bed. Generally the marks I make in that position are shit because I can't use my shoulder to draw so that's the biggest drawback in a bed/sitting up in bed.

Do I need a screen protector for cintiq?

>>4273331
I'm about to purchase Loomis' 'Figure Drawing for All it's Worth' and Bridgeman's 'Complete Guide to Drawing from Life', but I just wanted to check here first; I've found that the thing I need to improve on most is drawing the human body in perspective, so I was wondering if the aforementioned books were good for teaching this, and if they're not, what some good books for learning this would be?

>>4281493
>I'm about to purchase Loomis' 'Figure Drawing for All it's Worth' and Bridgeman's 'Complete Guide to Drawing from Life'
>purchase
If you don't care about the state of the books (physical or digital) just get them in the artbook thread, they are in the OP >>4268695

>>4281504
Will do, thank you, but I'm still looking for an answer to the question.

>>4281507
Depends on how well versed you are in perspective in the first place.
If you are just starting out, Perspective Made Easy by Ernest R. Norling. After this book you can either move on to:
A) How to Draw by Scott Robertson
or B) Peter Han's Dynamic Sketching course
You will have to do both of them anyway, which route to pick doesn't really matter.

The books are available in the artbook OP (link in my previous post) as well, but here's some links if they don't work. You can get the other books that you mentioned there as well.

https://b-ok.cc/book/566230/84db88
https://b-ok.cc/book/2774275/df1f29

The video course should be in the video thread >>4228784 if not, try asking for a link.

>>4281515
I forgot to add: he has a book based on his dynamic sketching course (with the same name). The course is better but the book OK. It's, once again, in one of the artbook OP's MEGA links.

>>4281515
>>4281518
Cool, thank you very much anon

do you drink/smoke? does it affect your work flow/improvememt?

im a chainsmoker and im thinking about quitting and get serious in drawing.

>>4273331
>>4273331
How do I accurately capture curve of still life objects like bottles, tubes, all sorts of lamp shades, bulbs, kettles with too many expanding parts and so on?

I'm asking about still life "dumb" what-you-see keys to drawing way, rather than constructing of a similar form.

>>4281873
hmm not sure whether i understand what you're asking. i'd say, start with an "exaggarated" curve and add details later? and look for negative space/enclosed shapes in these details ? also how you hatch/shade has a great influence on how the form is perceived. if something is curvy, dont use straight lines to shade it, try curved lines.

>>4281877
I have problem with capturing the feeling of curves, in stuff such as weird bottlenecks, wine glasses, bells, decorative door knobs, or generally stuff that isn't simple "oh the form is slightly oval", like the ending of this lamp it's just too many spheres overlapping and parts are slightly elongated (at least in real life, I got one next to me).

test

How do I stop my suicidal thoughts and self loathing get in the way of drawing?

>>4281395
>Do I need a screen protector for cintiq?

Don't make me start another tablet thread.

Do I need one to protect the screen and/or improve the texture/feel when drawing.

I don't actually have one. yet.

>>4282264
while drawing, listen to a podcast that interests you. it will distract the self critical part of your brain.

also, eat chocoloate or some other dopamine inducing substance, while drawing.

how willing are these groups to ask for custom comissions/throw money/support artists that make art with their fetish:

-yurifags
-fujos and gay men

There seems to be a lot less porn of men than lesbians,so is cornering the fujo market a good idea as long as you can be professional? Which group is more likely to cancel me?

>>4282290
>need
No.

If you don't like how the texture is at the moment then go buy one later, rather than relying on other peoples preferences.

>>4281873
unironically just use straight lines, envelope the curves with lines, it's so much easier to see where the peak of the curve is and so on, i've stopped using curved lines any time i am sketching or studying because it helps you understand curvature so much better instead of relying on vague and ambiguously similar curved strokes

>>4282452
Don't worry aboupt this cancel shit, as long as you're professional and obviously know not to engage with those kind of people to begin with (know decent PR), it's a non-issue. This applies to social media in general, but please never act like you're posting on 4chan outside of 4chan if that makes any sense. There are so many people who make it obvious that they post on 4chan and it's not a good look.

Porn featuring women is more common, but there's also a higher competitive field and saturation keep in mind.
I've supported fujo/homo artists before, so it's nice seeing good artists in that field, especially with many of the good artists being non-English speaking east Asians

Whats a /ic/ approved guide to drawing anime correctly?

>>4282453
thanks. guess i'll work it out.
> need
if the screen wears out the nib, or the nib wears out the screen, then that would qualify as need.

Any good gumroad tutorials to start out with?

what is wrong with this face?, I keep seeing people post this for snu snu purposes, but fuck is going on in the art?

>>4282863
the artist knows nothing about anatomy or figures in perspective. their rendering skills look /beg/ too

I don’t really understand how to do this. Are there any other sources that explains it in greater detail?

>>4282960
He just mapped that "Ground Plane" into one-point perspective
The plan view just shows the object, the dotted lines their placement on the bottom image.

Try Perspective Made Easy if you want more

>>4283043
Isn’t it two points perspective since there are two vanishing points? I’m confused about the measuring point though

>>4283083
Yeah its 2 pt.

Not sure if Perspective Made Easy has it but How to draw by Scott Robertson has a section on the division and multiplication but if you want a short look into it, you can watch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4iRyRs68A0

How do I get started with learning values through working with light sources on spheres/ cylinders etc?

>>4282863
it's just kind of a mess. the compoosition is weird and the outfit/hair is cluttered as fuck. it looks like she mugged a yarn store.

anyone recommend an app for making a quick scan of a sketch using mobile phone camera only?

What is coom art and why is it so frown upon?

It's not the propper thread but I think it's ok if I ask it here. You guys have simmilar stuff to pic related? Don't know the artist but it's so good

>>4273331
How the fuck do I find a practice partner on /ic/ seems like a fucking impossible thing. All the people I add either barely online or have very little drive to practice.

>>4284202
where are you looking?

>>4284227
On this board

>>4284202
PYW

>>4284238

Hello. Construction isn't working for me. Are there other ways to attempt drawing without working from the inside out but rather the outside in? If so, who do I study under?

>>4284329
The Japanese. Shape design.

>>4284329
Using negative space

>>4284335
not that person but can you elaborate? any artists or books mentioning this?

>>4284329
envelopes

>>4273331
Been drawing for a while now, but never shared anything except on here. I want to start building an identity on the internet but not sure what to do. Should I make a DeviantArt account and upload everything I do to it? Or just the good stuff. I'll propably need to bite the bullet and get a twitter as well.

So I've been tracing and using images as references to learn why artists do what they do and train my muscle memory. My question is what's the pencil and paper version of those comic book dots/half tones?

>>4275122
basically flat design, but with they own twist (which looks good)

>>4284410
Screen tone sheets

>>4273331
How much should i be able to trust this board? I feel like i shouldnt very much but at the same time i should

>>4284446
None. Don't trust anyone here. But that twist is do t trust anyone on any site. On Other sites you might feel like you can trust people, since they are maybe other artists, or have a blue checkmark, so they must know what they are talking about, so you end up encorpirating their shitty opinions into your work. Here there's a 50 50 chance the person is right, or a retard, but that's the beauty of it. You are forced to evaluate every statement on its own, and think about it. If someone tells you your lines are messy and you should make it smoother, look at your lines, are they? How do they compare to other artists, do you want to make it smoother? Actualy think labour it and decide if you want to trust that post, or tell him to Fuck off.

what's the best image browser/organiser/downloader tool?

is 20yo too late to learn to draw?
Will i ever be good enough to make the illustrations of my own books?
Also, should i loomis or is it a bad idea?

Why can I only draw with reference? I don't even think my understanding of anatomy is terrible (still beg/mediocre) bc after looking at a ref for ~30 seconds or even just doing the pose in the mirror i can fix my art easy but I can't come up with shit in my head. And I KNOW it looks wrong too so what gives, I have been drawing for years (not seriously) should I just give up

>>4284930
because you failed for the Doing Studies /ic/ meme where instead of actually studying you just try to mindlessly copy the ref 1:1. ban yourself from using reference for a few weeks and force yourself to draw, however shitty doodles you make dont give up. you cannot rely for references for 100% of your work, if you ever get any complex commissions they won't save you. learning to be able to draw from imagination is crucial here. refs should only help you, not be a crutch.

>>4284990
Shouldn't a /beg/ have a large enough visual library before they to draw something from imagination?

>>4285046
No

>>4284741
It will be late when you are dead, sure when you are like 10 it is a lot easier but what choice do you have?

Why I can easily spot for other's anatomy mistakes but I can't spot them in my draws until Im close to finish it?

>>4285247
Its either your lines are too messy and you dont clean them till the end, you focus too much on one part of the body at a time then zoom out and realkze everything is fucked, you dont use construction, or you just dont know anatomy

Thoughts on NMA?

>>4285046
no. this is the biggest lie youre being sold here. draw from ref and imagination simultaneously or you will become a copy machine unable to invent and design. your imaginative work will suck at first but dont worry, keep pushing. the idea that you can copy refs for 2 years and the suddenly you will somehow magically be able to draw from imagination is complete and utter bullshit and is being spread only by people who are caught up in this lie. they cant prove it wrong but will keep saying i am the reason this board is shit, even though there arent ANY imaginative drawing in the beg thread and everyone is addicted to reference here.

save yourself while you still can. dont become proko.

>>4282478
not the asker but this is all solid advice

What is the "cancel" thing on Twitter?

Are there any good /ic/ discords? Like, essentially just /ic/ but with more of a sense of camaraderie since there's no anonymous messages on Discord?

>>4273331
How does the Huion 1060 stack up to a Wacom Intuous?
I was denied the upgrade this Christmas and instead got a mouse that's made to have GAMER in all caps in its design.

>>4284335
This >>4284344

>>4284343
>>4284392
I can try the end the envelope design, but how will it help me learn anatomy? My problem is I get to autistic in the details, if like to follow accurately by see seeing and drawing the outside or outline of the design including clothing. Sorry if I'm not articulating this well. I follow some artists that draw this way and I think I may benefit from it but I don't know the method to get there. There are tons of construction books but where are the others?

>>4285260
gonna work on construction and anatomy, also I use zoom most of the time cos the tablet is very small and it's a little hard to be precise.
thanks anon

>>4284990
>>4285293
hey thanks for the responses anon, I'm going to try drawing for at least an hr a day this week without ref and will see how it goes, thank you

>>4285160
I wanted to know whether my brain can still learn how to draw
i dont want spend 5 years just so i ca draw like a 10 years old

>>4285554
Dude there's people starting drawing that are nearly 30 or higher. 20 is basically normal age to learn how to draw.

>>4284741
>>4285554
No. You absolutely cannot learn how to draw at 20.

>>4285627
Oh i see.
thanks! ow i just need to buy a tablet and i can start drawing

>>4285636
How about drawing on paper, faggot? You can do that right now.

>>4285641
the only paper i have right now is from my notebook
doesnt seem ideal

>>4285633
i remember my hands falling off at age 20. some have it earlier, others a little later, but by 20 at least a little brittleness sets in about the wrists.

Is there somewhere I can find reference images of transparent 3d shapes so I can figure out what the fuck things are supposed to look like? I'm trying to figure out how to make sure everything lines up but its kind of hard to check my work if I have nothing to check against

>>4285855
Blender.

>>4285868
I don't spend all day at home with access to a pc. If I want to draw away from home I can't boot up blender on my phone.

>>4285665
Nice to see you already have excuses up your sleeve. You'll get far.

>>4285438
looks like you got 4chan cancelled

>>4285438
If you do/did something the outrage crowd doesn't like, like if they find out you posted a joke containing the word 'nigger' back in 2012, or if you say biological sex can't be changed, (both real examples), then they come together to shame everyone else into not supporting you, because you are a litteral nazi, usually in the form of unsubscribing/unfollowing your accounts, or a bit more seriously, shaming large corporations into never working with you (like withdrawing sponsorships/adds, or terminating your contract, again, both real examples).

anyone got links to google drive folders of art references/tutorials? i know of this one and the "dibujo" one with the art books
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1WdgOTVjqTqmqhN6lAAbQrZ9swYCFFi72?usp=sharing

How much RAM is really needed for digital painting?
Say I work on a 4k canvas (3840x2160 or something like that), I assume 16gb is enough?
But what if I work on something much larger, like 16 000 x 10 000, is ram going to become a concern at that point?

I only use an Ipad for painting atm but I'm about to buy a new computer and was wondering if I should just get 32gb outright or if it likely won't matter

What are the reasonable estimates for when the 2020 wacom tablets come out?

>>4276017
>.de stands for denmark
slavische Ausbildung...

Is it possible to make /ic better?

>>4287614
Yes.

How do I study perspective?

>>4287616
How?

>>4287614
no.
ic by definition is at the apex in all aspects of it's existence.

please recommend an image cataloging/downloading program.

>>4287783
http://jdownloader.org/jdownloader2

>>4277548
your should work more on your technique instead, body types are not that relevant. In general you have the cartoon milf and the japanese anime/manga girl, you clearly choose the cartoon milf so go to look western references, is all about make the hips wide and do those triangle basic shapes in the torso, all the others things don't really matter, ah and focus on the expression.

>>4278251
copy but copy basic shapes, then build with that, you can replicate almost all cartoons and massive media characters by learning basic shapes, because they were made using them, from mario to mlp or adventure time. Then just learn the body shapes and you can replicate all the things from western comics to anime girls or videogames. Don't copy masters if you are not take it seriously or you are just gonna waste your time.

>>4278407
all artists study the basics, if they don't, they just learned them by copy a lot from a lot of time, plus luck and affinity, study them first is just to make it a lot faster, a lot.

Any resources or tips for learning about storyboarding and paneling for webcomics/manga etc.? Or should I got to /asg/ and /alt/?

>>4287866
framed ink?

>>4287796
do you use that for cataloging as well? Or just downloading?

>>4273331
Can cintiq pro be powered via usb c?
Or do you always need two cables: usbc t ocomputer, and power cable.

>>4288205
No it can't be powered through usb c and yes, 2 cables minimum if using usb c for your video.

>>4288214
thanks.
that kinds sucks. oh well.

>>4288217
Plus the usb c cable it comes with is pretty short, shorter than the video cables it came with.

>>4285247
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaP7ZIDnlJQ

Can somebody explain to me why people shill this book so hard?

>>4273331
Where is the best place to buy a print of Fernando Botero's Pope Leo X After Raphael

If he does not offer a legal quality print is there a high rez I can print myself for personal use?

>>4288363
Because it's been out and easily downloadble for a while. After that, it's a modern take on figure drawing construction. Really helpful for one method of learning volumes of the body. Huston's book is better imo but that didn't come out until 2016 while Hampton's book was out in 2010. It gets you part of the way there but his gesture isn't great and he completely invents anatomical shape.

21st century art books tend to be better for learning and beginners. It's very difficult to self-teach yourself based only on solely Loomis/Vilppu so Hampton and the like are good alternatives to get you working with 3D forms instead of all your work being flat, drunk mannekins.

I use sai, but can’t figure out what brush is good for drawings like landscapes. I see a sorta charcoal-sequel brush used to make blocky shapes, but can never imitate it. I wish I had an example on hand, sorry

How do I achieve that lighting???? the edges are so soft and blend so nicely with the shadows, what brush is even used for getting that softness???

>>4288413
you can do all of that with hard/soft round or blur/smudge tool. learn the fucking basics of digital painting. your color choices and composition will matter more than rendering skills that you can learn in 5 minutes.
https://www.ctrlpaint.com/library

>>4288201
Thanks.

How do I build up followers on Twitter without resorting to lewd art of popular anime characters?

>>4288413
soft brush with texture and he add a little noise at the end i think, but to get to that point of mastery you need a lot a practice

>>4288378
I really don't like hustons book. It's so bare bones and he did everything on a tablet which he is clearly not as experienced in so it loses his mastery of traditional and becomes an intermediate digital drawing.
His videos are much better.
Hamptons book is excellent for what it aims to do: get you to understand gesture, structure and anatomy in an abstract and easily memorable way. I can understand where muscles/landmark bones are on a model and I know what the 3d shape of them is.
Hamptons videos are actually pretty crap because he doesn't add anything more to the book really.

Both are missing a lot and of all subjects, figure drawing is the one where you need to read and watch every book and video to get a balanced education on it.

>>4287773
Everyone gets told to "go away and draw/study more" so we should just have more observation/reference copying study threads like the Anime Study General or the FZD Just Draw ones from a while back; With an emphasis on accuracy, construction, memory drawing, and less goalpost moving/impossible standards/nitpicking critique so that people will post/draw more. It would get people actively working on all of the "how do I X?" problems and learning proper studying techniques. That'll lead to consistent growth, motivation to draw, and the actually useful classroom-like support of seeing how other's tackle their studies instead of just half-assed critiques on original work.

Most study threads are bad because people are studying poorly, afraid to post since everything becomes a "ridiculous standards vs. (You)" battle, or they just post non-studies. If there was more encouragement for posting quantities of quality studies over posting original work with critique begging, then the momentum would build and /ic/ would certainly get better.

It's what a lot of people here are yearning for.

>>4288640
I can see some of your things but I think it's the best beginner book for learning to draw and figure drawing. I agree that you should devour everything you can but I think Hampton leads to more questions than it solves if it's the first thing people pick up. I did like some things while drawing through Hampton but think it gets things completely wrong/misleading volumes that aren't representative of even a simplification of what's there.

My ideal course for someone learning would be some order of the first few chapters of Vilppu's manual until the specific body parts, Scott Eaton's anatomy lectures, Steve Huston's book (lectures optional), and then Hampton now that you know the actual anatomy. Then you can work through Bridgman, Loomis, Vanderpoel, Hogarth, etc. It's hard because most artists won't need that level of anatomy or even want it. And figure drawing has circular dependencies of anatomy and fundamental skills like perspective and proportions that people are trying to learn.

For a beginner, I think Huston's book is better. If you've already drawn for a bit maybe Hampton's is better to start with. It's hard for me to say because I've only learned to draw as an adult while knowing about the books, I don't know what the natural way an artist learns to draw who scribbles without learning resources.

Best anatomy courses or ways to learn it? I'm mediocre and need to learn it to finally be worth a shit

How do I stop symbol drawing. Especially when studying from life/ reference images.

>>4288753
treat every body part as if youre seeing it for the first time ever and you dont know anything about it so you have to rely 100% on your obervational skills

>>4288753

practice drawing upside down so you're focusing on the lines and not going through the cognitive mental route of "this is an eye" and instead you're just drawing the lines you see

>>4288249
Thanks bro, very useful vid.

Where can I find design doll 5.0?

>>4288683
Post your work.

>>4273331
I'm a beginner but what I'm lacking the most is analytical skills. I draw things often too inaccurate.
What's the best way to improve it? I usually try to analyze the thing first before I draw but that's about it.

>>4287783
https://hydrusnetwork.github.io/hydrus/

What screen protectors do people use for their ipad? I've heard paperlike is shit and matte ones are better but I've also heard a lot of them reduce the screen quality a lot.

What is the term for when light gets more saturated near the terminator line? I'm pretty sure it's just sub-surface scattering but for some reason I'm convinced there's another name for that specifically. Maybe even just specifically on skin.

Am I just being a brainlet?

>>4290655
Subsurface scattering (SSS), also known as subsurface light transport (SSLT),[1] is a mechanism of light transport in which light that penetrates the surface of a translucent object is scattered by interacting with the material and exits the surface at a different point. The light will generally penetrate the surface and be reflected a number of times at irregular angles inside the material before passing back out of the material at a different angle than it would have had if it had been reflected directly off the surface. Subsurface scattering is important for realistic 3D computer graphics, being necessary for the rendering of materials such as marble, skin, leaves, wax and milk. If subsurface scattering is not implemented, the material may look unnatural, like plastic or metal.

>>4290683
So would it be called subsurface scattering when the color of light is more saturated at the terminator?

t. brainlet

how do i stop being inconsistent

>>4290737
you mean with your style? if you rely on reference too much it might cause that, draw from imagination sometimes and you will develop a consistent style

any advice on cleaning up sketches vs doing all-new linework on a new layer? I've done the latter a few times and it always leads to frustration and a final product that feels sterile

>>4291036
i like to leave the sketch on a layer below with 10% opacity or so, it takes away that sterile feeling

i cant really imagine how to clean up a sketch on a single layer, i wouldnt be able to get it to look right with erasing unless i took like 3 hours to do it, but idk maybe someone does that

>>4291055
sounds like I just need more practice then, thanks

>>4273331
I bought some traditional emulation brushes from artstation and they are standard issue license. Whats the deal here exactly? If I dont mention which brushes I used, how can anyone know that I used them for a commission that I sold? Can photoshop detect brush packs and monitor me live?

>>4291036
when doing the linework dont be so rigid and focused solely on it being clean and precise. be a little loose with your ink like you are with your sketch itll go a long way

Most of the requests threads on this site have been my go to for ideas on how to draw and practice it but they've become incredibly shitty as of late due to a small number of people constantly spamming the same tired ass requests nobody wants to do. What is a good place to get ideas of what to draw when I don't really know what to draw? I'm really just trying to develop a process and habit but find it just strange to randomly look shit up on google, it's the same as doing a request by one of those spammers.

>>4288919
People in cgp are saying that the 4.0 crack still works for 5.0 apparently. Haven't tried it yet though.

How long until i stop wanting to punch a hole in my cintiq because i suck so bad? ive been drawing for a little less than a month and i get so frustrated

>>4291511
at least two years before it became tolerable for me

>>4273331
How does one turn down an art trade, politely? What excuse do you guys say to the other person?
I have a slight feeling this follower of mine just wanted a free art. If not, well I really don't want to entertain free requests

>>4291511
have you tried switching painting programs? calibrated your brush settings?

>>4292103
dont bother with an excuse just tell them you dont want to do it you dont owe them an explanation just say youre not interested in an art trade

anyone have a manga panel posted a while back on ic, where granma art teacher was giving schedule to students? It was something along doing X watercolors per week, etc

is there a photoshop shorcut to invert horizontally?

>>4292103
Tell them you're busy with other projects

>>4290790
speaking about proportions getting good shapes down sometimes i can get something i like sometimes i cant

>>4291511
This feeling will never be gone, just admit that it'd be there and go on.

is using adjustment layers and layer modes fraudulent

>>4292562
Yes. I'm calling the police.

I cannot for the life of me figure out how to make a character's jacket blow in the wind as they're falling. Does anyone have good references or tutorials

>>4288557
Same question, but can't do a shit even with lewds.

is loomis a meme or not?

>>4293102
No, it's not any anyone who says otherwise are trying to deprive you of fundamental knowledge you will use in everything you will ever draw.

Any chances on pateron being a reliable source of income?
I sometimes toy with the idea of going back to live on the family farm. Three hours away from any major city. I rather work from home then work with rednecks.

>>4293226
it would make more sense to have the stable income before moving back

>>4293235
I just want to know if working towards a pateron is worth it anymore, part of me is afraid it's a dying fad

>>4293246
that, I couldn't tell you
I know the top% still makes enough to live comfortably but who knows how much the average artist makes
whether or not you draw porn is probably a huge factor since the #1 way people bait people into supporting patreon is getting uncensored versions early

>>4291036
do it with the same brush and keep some of the undersketch if you can't replicate a line

>>4293246
If you’re good enough to get Patrons then it’s a consistent income that at least a few bucks to income. It’s probably pretty hard to live off of for most people though.

What does /ic/ think of Arteza Real Brush Pens?

I really like to use them but I don't see a lot of people using these. I guess in favor of better watercolor pens.

In fact, at least on here, I don't see many people use/talk about watercolor brush pens. Are they really just a preference thing?

>>4292108
saying I'm not interested may come off as rude, and I'm talking to a hormonal loud teen. I'll probably use >>4292467 as excuse instead. Thanks anons

>>4293251
This is what I came up with, I'm still trying to learn how to lineweight.

>>4293289
Because watercolor markers are a meme. People here would rather use actual artist watercolor from a tube or alcohol markers like copics/promarkers. You shouldn't buy things just because they're cheap. People here want to know the supplies they're buying are going to be archival, lightfast, what pigments are used. Arteza doesn't give you any of that, it's a school supply.

>>4293937
Copics aren't archival but still great.

>>4293982
Good correction, didn't mean to imply they were.

Best anonymous payment method? I know bitcoin is good not sure which service to use but are there other means people like to use that won't scare off clients.

Do I learn more efficient by doing many sketches or take my time for few projects?

>>4293625
that's pretty decent, i would worry about other things

>>4294115
make many short finished projects. for example if you want to make comics, draw comics, don't only study anatomy. you'll improve faster with focused practise.