/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>4264716
>Tumblr nose
Dropped.

>>4264725
Is Tumblr even relevant anymore?

>>4264725
>each rossey nose is Tumblr nose

This weebs

>>4264725
typical sandfag never been in icy snow environment. kek on you

this movies lighting and stylization is beautiful

>>4264716
I genuinely thought that this movie was 3d when I say the Norm McDonald highlights on youtube, pretty impressive animation

>>4264716
i like how people argued against netflix having their own animated originals and they ended up funding some really good looking shit

>>4264725
This isn't a Tumblr nose.

>>4264716
I don't get it, the lighting is mostly manually done, the studio was making it look they they did some shader wizardry though. Fuck that.

the shading looks like shit.
literally looks like something off a deviant art tutorial on "how to shade" where they apply a soft round on a multiply layer.

>>4267277
You're undermining the technique. It still saves a ridiculous amount of time compared to fully manually colouring everything

Not a fan of the character artstyle at all, mostly having to do with shape language, I guess.

Thank God for Japanese animation, especially from 80s, 90s.
Nice background art tho.

>>4267316
This.
Call me a weeb but western cartoons just look ugly 99% of the time. I keeps me from taking the animation seriously.

Also Akira is unironically one of the greatest animated films of all time.

>>4264716
Damn, maybe he gets a redemption arc? Pretty interesting vid.

>>4266898
I despise Netflix and hope everyone involved in that kiked company has a terrible future ahead of them, but this is nothing short of amazing to me. I hope they outsourced it.

>>4267313
That stuff with the hands seems pretty damn tricky though. It must be like 90% manual work.

>>4264716
This movie tried too hard.

>>4267339
Anime is usually made with the intent to advertise a Manga, book or video game series which appeal to a higher age demographic than western animation which targets a much younger demographic that wants bright colors and simple shapes. If you watch earlier 2d western animation from the 90s and early 2000s you'll notice that cartoons advertising comics and movies generally look better and more stylized like 2003 clone wars.

>>4267339
>>4267316
ok I'll call you a weeb since it's what you are. A lot of anime is cool and amazing looking obviously but to act like it's the only form of animation that has value is the height of being a weeaboo. Both are good

>>4264716
Seems cool, would be nice if such software wasn't completely proprietary and they went the open source route though.

>>4264716
so that's what son of dob sounds like... huh

>>4267305
>>4264725
>begs shitting on klaus baka

computers are taking over
it's over for us 2d bros

>>4267489
Not those anons but I watched Klaus and it's really overhyped. If it wasn't for 'muh shading' no one would care.

>>4267316
Same, the same language and color is not my taste, look too "plastic" for some reason, must be because of the tech they used in the video.

>>4267495
anon thats the point, the video in the op post is literally titled 'how klaus was rendered'

>>4267305

*snips*

>>4267495
it has soul

>>4267316
>>4267339
Disgusting weebs and their narrow views will lead to their own demise, always, thats why the only weeb who have succeded from the west is the pathetic Yllia, you are mentally handicapped by your stupid attitudes.

>>4267458
Maybe something like that will popup in blender one day. Blender seems to be making a lot of strives lately.

>would be nice if such software wasn't completely proprietary and they went the open source route though

I can see why the company would want to make it proprietary so they wouldn't have to rely on donations to fund their development. But it's too bad it's completely unavailable to the public right now to buy or try.

>>4264716
>doesn't even say anything about the freeform gradients
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnmQy0UMLtA&t=540s

>>4267530
>t. assmad western mutt
Anime is slowly consuming your western trash as we speak.

>>4267530
>>4267441

Weeb this, weeb that, narrow views etc.

Meanwhile Hollywood, video game industry, music industry --- all drink from the well of Japanese anime.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6BGxikCRT4

>>4267620
Holy shit that Monnoke ref is borderline copyright

>>4267620
when did I say being inspired by anime was bad or that anime was bad? I like anime. I just think it's stupid to act like anime is the only good form of animation and is closeminded and makes you a weeb

>>4267725
Tha may have been true in the past, but modern western animation is pretty much dead. Anime is the only type of artistically-driven mature animation left. And no, adult swim cartoons don't count as 'mature' (and certainly not artistically driven).

>>4267505
Just goes to show that renderfags are cancer and need to be kicked out of art/animation.

>>4267316
>>4267339

>>4264716
Why is no one else ITT taking about the fact that this video was made by Dobson of all people

>>4267999
desu I think it was an ok video.
mildly informative and reveals something about the process of making an animated movie.

too bad his opinions are cringe as fuck

>>4267999
because I have no fucking idea who that guy is

>>4264716
This is the exact direction 2D Western animation needs to take if it wishes to push forward, and anime needs to take a lesson from this rather than adapting the latest boring isekai for it to be poorly animated due to time constraints and buried after one season.

>>4267339
>>4267316
Like the aesthetic or not, but Western animation is where all the new shit gets discovered.
Paperman, Spiderverse, now this.
There's been more inovation in western animation in the past 10 years than in Japan in the past 100.

>>4268114
have you seen the new lupin trailer? looks great desu

>>4267999
This might be the only thing he has done that I don't hate.

>>4267804
did you even see the video, no one has ever done something like this for a full feature film before. This is a huge step for 2d animation, and youre downplaying it because you don't like the way it looks. Lmao

>>4267803
>anime
>mature

Delusional prick

>>4267989
Cope delusional retard.

Its impressive but the final result looks too 3d cgi rendered. They should have kept a flatter style.

>>4268298
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6BGxikCRT4&list=LL55X9UVMPIUi72rpRpaTGcg&index=3&t=0s

>>4267803
Imagine honestly believing that maturity is what defines animation as valuable or good. That is sad and I genuinely feel sorry for you

>>4268479
He's sort of right. I'm sick of grown adults praising a children's movie as being groundbreaking, I mean it doesn't seem like such a bad thing until you realize there is nothing going on with adult animation in the west so they have no choice.

>>4268504
Talk again when your dirty chinks can make something this good, oh noes, it's a childrens movie it doesnt count

https://youtu.be/d_prbnabl3A

>>4268543
At least post 1950s Disney instead of that 90s crap if you want to show me something good.

>>4268504
>mature themes
>fresh new rendering and technical animation

a movie can have one but not the other and be valuable. From a technical standpoint, Klaus is groundbreaking, but you don't want to admit it because it's not your animu

>>4268543
What is this???? I loved this movie as a kid but I don't recognize any of this at all, and it looks like it's done by a B-rank studio. At least show the gd dance scene.

>>4268173
western discovers and japanese refines :^)

>>4268543
why must you berate people when you're trying to make a point, it doesnt help your argument whatsoever.
Personally I liked tarzan a lot esp this scene
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEzJJe3RYe8&t=1m57s
and this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHHUWjwkV0I
love lilo and stitch too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REs9XQdCzvk

>>4268635
>:^)

Classic weeaboo reply, now post one with the chink whore eating noodles or some smug animu blobgirl.

>>4268638
I hate so much the fact Lilo and Stich got so little attention, that movie is the definition of soul on animated form, and also a pro lesson on how to depict weight in animation, plus the watercolor bsckgrounds and pencil layouts are a treasure, also I wonder why Andreas Deja got assigned Lilo instead of Stitch since his strong side is animate villains.

>>4268604
didnt make it into the movie, just a cut scene / sequence anon

>>4268659
this right here, i agree with all my heart

>>4268638
Better lilo and stich version.
https://youtu.be/SKtL87tcj70

>>4268706
>>4268659
The lifeguard.

Weebs are insufferable. ..
I agree that this kind of plastic-looking cartoon is horrible and most western vartoon is these days, since it actually relies on technology for its aesthetics, but just bc your fancy anime shit is all over the place doesn't mean it's soulful.
In terms of aestheyicsrly and poetry, early Disney cartoons will never be topped.

>>4267999
>BING BING
>YAHHOOOOO

>>4264716
i just realized that i've never actually heard son of dob speak

>>4268721
weep

>>4268635
refines what? is there an anime better than spiderverse?

Why does it always have to be a retarded east vs. west thing. Why can't we all just get along and enjoy whatever art we enjoy

>>4268718
My dick is now 2000% harder

>>4268836
It’s always the realism/disney fags that start this shit every fucking time and makes me think those fuckers are actually insecure. Animu fags don’t even shit on those guys.

>>4268045
Notorious lolcow artist. He's basically a stereotypical male feminist, but without being a registered sex offender.

>>4268915
>Animu fags don’t even shit on those guys

You are so full of bullshit.

>>4268915
Both sides are the same, and they don't even realize how similar they are. They both think what they like are superior so they get angry when someone mocks their tastes. Then they mock the others, not realizing they're doing the exact same thing. Its like the trad vs digital argument. Both sides have pros and cons, and they can't acknowledge the fact that what they like is not what others want. its stupid.

>>4268957
How many threads you see shitting on realism/disney compared to anime every time?

>>4268971
The trad vs the digital argument, 9/10 the trad fags always shit on digital. It hard to find digital fags shitting on trad unless i search real hard.

>>4268980
And rightly so. Digital art can never be truly soulful.

>>4264725
except it makes sense in a cold environment.
the absolute state of /ic/

>>4268957

>>4267316
>>4267339

the weebs started it in this thread. get a grip

>>4268666
Really? I must have gotten an old copy or something because every time I’ve seen this it’s had this scene in it

>>4268286
Digital is soulless as fuck. GTFO you söi bugman.

>>4268543
>muh smooth animootion
Technical ability is different from context and writing.

The Testsuo mutation scene is better because it's just as technically competent while not being kiddie-shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yC1O2L4wWqo

>>4269301
Sure champ.

>>4269382
>h-heh... nothin personnel... kid... tch
>no arguement

>>4268915
animefags literally started the argument in this very thread by shitting on western artstyle in animation

>>4267339
Toons are supposed to be ugly, that's the point.

>>4269413
Ok, but most of the time realism/disney fags start it. Look at most the anime hate threads you see here every time.

>>4269438
Anime is realism, just an extremely stylized one. they use actual perspective, most cartoons don't even use perspective and are all 3/4th view.

>>4269476
>anime la realism

Stop saying stupid shit anon, is cringey.

>>4269476
You do realize that anime is just a piece of The Animation Medium. It was born out of Disney, Warner Bros. And MGM inspiration down to timing fundamentals
You’d know this certainly, unless this is...

Is Klaus a well written movie? I only saw the teaser years ago, and based on the promo pics, it’s about a mailman and Russian Santa saving a bad small town. Is there anything else about it?

>omg this Santa movie that looks like any other disney pixar thing is beeyooteefull
>muh reindeering is so purty
>IT BROKE NEW GROUND
>psshh, muh anime is edgy so it's mature
>check this sakuga from 40 years ago
>what if I just want to watch dumb shit?!
>skinny guy's giant nose is totally tumbler!
>muh moeblob

>>4269507
I will be honest, Its very cliche and its a movie where you can pretty much guess the ending. I myself, were expecting a steaming pile of shit, because you know, its a goddamn christmas movie like frozen 2. And yet ... for some fucking reason this movie so fucking charming. I honestly don't know how they were able to pull this off, its like magic. They handled the conflicts extremely well and the way the characters changed for the better is really well done.
>just imho

>>4269524
Cry louder

>>4269575
what part of the post where I mocked you made you butthurt?

>>4269507
It's pretty decent, my favorite was the general physical humor with the feuding townsfolk.

>>4269507
Very cute. Seeing the teacher get inspired made me emotional.

>>4268045
newfag

>>4264725
>Tumblr nose
It is a winter setting so you can kinda give it a pass

>>4264725
>Tumblr
who?

>>4268787
You clearly didn't get to see his poor attempts at Let's Play.

>>4269433
Right is unironically cuter than left.

>>4264786
James Baxters YouTube channel had a cool video on his process on the film

>talk about tv cartoons
>ugh it's shit, anime is superior
>talk about high quality cartoon movies
>ugh it's shit, anime is superior
I can't imagine a more pathetic, desperate faggot as the average 4chan weeb
it's quite telling that when talking of how anime is superior you always post the same OVAs/movies from 30 years ago, against high quality western animation made every year

>>4264716
All he did was take the video made from the company and talk over it.

>>4274638
stuff like this unironically warms my heart. im glad dobson exists

>listening to any input/advice cattyN gives
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XTKB8lgdhk

>>4274638
kek

>>4264716
lol you guys made my video go viral
thanks!

>>4267999
THAT Dobson made the video?

>>4274760

https://youtu.be/q4oNjcoAQ4U

>>4274638
I fucking knew it.

>>4273174
Don't care how flashy and 'smooth' western shit is, if the designs look ugly and it's 'family friendly' it's an inferior form of art. No different than McDonalds.

>>4275162
...In your opinion

>>4274760
Source on image?

>>4275162
Fuck it, I'll bite.Why does something not portraying a degree of profanity preclude something from being good,despite it possibly disrupting the tone? Studio Ghibli is family friendly ,or for they not count because they have ''soul''or whatever subjective and vapid justification you use?

>>4275162
based

>>4276334
The only reason people suck off Ghibli is because it's hyper-animated and hyper-detailed. Beyond a purely technical standpoint, Ghibli is overrated as fuck. Even as a kid I didn't like it because the characters moved in a disgusting uncanny way.

But Westerners aren't entirely incapable of artistic animation. If The Black Cauldron wasn't censored and followed the books better, it would have been pretty based. Other examples include Watership Down, Plague Dogs, When the Wind Blows, Pink Floyd's The Wall, etc.

Not only do these movies have appealing animation/aesthetics, but the writing is good too.

>>4275278
its the relatively latest animation Klaus

>>4268045