/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>4262706
Source on the photo?

I want to have sex with her in her bed so I can smell her sweaty sheets while she pats my head.

>>4262706
AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHAAAHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA PLS BE MY GF

is 3 ameriburgers fine?

>>4262706
Literally the worst place on earth to ask for how you should price your commissions.

>>4262763
pyw

>>4262763
What's the best place on earth to ask how should i price my commissions?

>>4262770
No where
You shouldnt ask others how much to charge for your own fucking product

>>4262775
Yea, I shouldn’t listen to those people who told me not to sell my ms paint stickman for $100.

>>4262780
If you can get $100 for an MS paint stickman then you should absolutely charge that.
>>4262706
Makes sense to put a price on your time. What is your time worth and how long will it take to make the product? Do some market research.

>>4262876
this is really nice anon, 25 to 30 imo if you maybe added some light back ground elements & maybe occlusion at the points where she's touching the ground.
>https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/2195300
just doing little things like that can help make your image seem more valuable w/o much extra effort at all. the aspect ratio is a little weird too imo.

Is it too expensive?

>>4262876
flat 25 with extra 5-10 depending on details
>>4263231
good prices

>>4262742
i don't know how many cash burgers costs there, but you haave to know that lineart with 1 color/shadow don't sell very well if you have finished pieces, unless you managed to make them really fast so they become time efficent

hey guys I bet you can't guess how much $$$$$ she charges

>>4263231
looks fine yeah, but, between the sketch and the lineart, there is no much difference because you can develop your lines to get the lineart level in the same time that the sketch level, or some point in the middle. I said that because it depends of what your market want, mostly i think people want somekind of "finished look", so they don't gonna go that much to the sketch stage unless you make them look more appealing, what you can do with practice, so in that time yo could just made the lineart option more fast, and just develop the higher ones, also there is no clear difference in that image between to last two options, so maybe you could learn some other thing to provide more price and gain something, like for example: add characters to the scene

>>4263286
no because is subjective, you can draw shitty things but have so many demand that you can sell it at higher prices without any problem

>>4263286
$150
$50 per addition

>>4262876
Nothing, also why should I pick you among all the other people who also draw generic animeshit? Most of the time people pays for something specific on an artist, and offers me nothing but sterile massproduced crap.

>>4262876
Easily $125-150
$300-450+ if fully rendered.

>>4263390
Delusional, thats not worth that much dude, don't lie to people, I draw myself and not even a high end advanced would charge that and You want to pay several hundreds for a drawing almost everyone can do? Come on

>>4263231
your last pic looks pretty flat

>>4263231
I think is a fair pricing, I would pay that for that quality

>>4262876
Make her torso shorter and longer legs. Than you can pass as a female artist.

>>4262706
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE GIVE THE SAUCE OP AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>4262706
Girl's IG is @luma.skye

>>4263505
it's just some thot in a her underwear sitting on a bed. there are a billion other pictures like this on the internet.

Shot: Portrait
Tier: Sketch

>>4263738
Why you guys on this board only draw anime clones over and over? I would be very suprised if you manage yo get one commission by doing this.

>>4263286
So? Tell us what she charges anon

>>4263744
I can change my style to fix my client's needs.

Shot: Portrait
Tier: Full Inks

>>4263769
Did you drew that? If so is pretty damn cool.

>>4263785
Yeah. I plan to update my prices after the holiday season. Having a rough estimate would help tremendously with starting the new year off right.

Shot: Medium Long Shot
Tier: Full Render

>>4263231
Looks good now post info so I can commission you

>>4263817
well, I draw myself so I know about prices, yout work is high end weebshit, I would pay for that pic of the umbrella gurl (if I were a weeb, which im not) from 200 usd to 250, really nice stuff, I think you should charge per character, dont discount for any extra one since the ammout of detail you put on them.

How much should I go? My past commissions averaged around $90.

>>4263891
thats a ok pricing, stick to it.

´;д;`) linking a little more recent art
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ELyd2uRXUAAmBHB?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EL8zM8WX0AY-7aq?format=jpg&name=large

>>4263873
Here is my twitter kind sir
https://twitter.com/shamuroart

>>4263998
Souless and tasteless

>>4263998
Too cheap desu, its seem like a lot of work just for $20. Fully render prob cost you 5 to 8hrs yeah?

>>4264042
For multiple characters yeah, but I think single can be done quicker. I'm still kinda new to drawing (this is my first full year of trying) so I really put the prices low. I'm just glad to get any business really, since it is practice for myself after all

How much do you think people would pay for my stuff?

>>4263769
Super tight lines as usual!

>>4264052
$75 minimum

>>4263748
>>4263354
>>4263292
call me crab all you want but it just makes me kinda angry it's not fair

>>4264052
It depends on your client, You are good enough to charge 100+ for that, polish your tech more and can be double that.

>>4264052
maybe consider redoing the hands anon. the values are a little too compressed. if you fix a few things this would be worth 75-100 depending on what you can get away with. oh and once again, maybe add a slight cast shadow from the feet to make him feel more grounded in space. little details like that really are the difference between looking like a professional instead of a hobbyist.

>>4264088
Source?

>>4264054
>>4264081
Thanks anons. That's a bit higher than I expected.

>>4264088
Thanks for the advice anon. Too compressed eh? Yeah, I'll definitely add that to things I should watch out for.

>>4264097
Too compresses means shit anon, that depends on you and your lighting scheeme, take some classes on lighting snd you'll be good to go, Dorian Iten is by far one of the best ones, take his course, is on cgpeers, the Sam Nielson one on Schoolism is breeedy good as well.

>>4264074
Honestly, if dumb people are buying it then good on her for selling it.

>>4263769
>>4263738
I love your art. Do you have a blog?

Are my prices too much or I'm underselling?

I a get a few commissions (like 1-3) every month, but I', mot well known.

>>4264282
Here you go.
https://twitter.com/WhiteBox_Studio

>>4264377
I would say you are underselling currently, especially for oil work

>>4264341
Comfy

>>4263390
>1 character
>125 - 450+
are you joking or actually special ed

>>4263769
$85-150
>>4263817
$200-$350
>>4264052
$300?
The best advice I can give you for someone that is as skilled as you is to not put a set price on your art. Put a rough price, where you feel like you get a good $/hr, and adjust that based on the piece. Does someone want something a bit rougher? Is the concept simpler? Do they want a background? Communication is important. Overall, you can surely make a job out of this with some research and dedication.

Price me.
I don't do coom.

>>4262742
I find your style appealing enough, but with that B&W finish, you're better off selling "sketch pages" with several illustrations of the same character doing different things. It's fun to do and allows you to charge a larger amount at once instead of selling 300 3 dollar commissions.

>>4264341
Being honest, the shading makes it worse.
At least try separating your drawings with flat layers of value (one for foreground, one for character, one for background and so on), then the shading might work or just not be necessary. Focus on ambient occlusion if you don't want to waste too much time with detailed shading.

>>4265132
$30-40 for the left. Leaning towards 40.
Based non coomer.

>>4264074
>fucking calarts

This thread really gives hope.

>>4265113
This

>>4265132
With that boring generic le anime style the only way you MAYBE can do money is with "coom" ( retarded meme), also You draw like shit, si don't expect anybody commission you for sfw.

>>4264569
thanky
>>4265132
I'll consider that, when drawing this one I did find I was actually spending a lot of time making it readable.

>>4263694
I WANT THIS ONE !!!!!!!
/R/ is dead.

>>4265347
Not the guy you're replying to but I can kinda see what he means. I think it could help if you blocked out large areas of value to separate the foreground, middle ground and background from the onset and refined them as you worked. Here's a rough mock up to show what I mean.

>>4265382
Ooh, yeah that looks nice, thank you.

>>4263817
d-ddude is this cell shading?

I'm gonna save this if you don't mind

>>4265347
>>4265382
I had flat tones in mind, they can go a long way if your drawing is interesting enough.

>>4265330
Hi again.

>>4265584
Thank you, I didn't expect any response at all, let alone two paintovers. Here's the lines if anyone wants them, though I do get what you're saying.

>>4265666
Ah, in that case allow me to show what I meant by just painting "Ambient Occlusion" instead of shading everything.
(It's not exactly Ambient Occlusion, but just very tiny spots of shadow where it'd be the darkest to confer a little bit of depth with very little actual work.

It's flatter than the shaded option, no doubt, but it's already something.

>>4265685
Cringe, you don't even understand the concepts you talk about.

>>4265685
H... Have you ever actually looked up what ambient occlusion is?

>>4265718
Don't take my word for it.

>>4265739
Have you read my entire post?
Are you shitters gonna stick to terminology shitflinging or do you have anything to contribute in terms of helping anon?

Hopefully this helps since I am someone who actually buys commissions regularly.

>>4262742
$10
>>4262876
$35-$50
If you rendered this more or colored the entire thing it could really be worth a lot! Fully rendered this could definitely be worth $150-$180
>>4263231
No it is perfect
>>4263891
You can go higher, don't go less than $120
>>4263998
Price these higher, Icon can be $20, half body can be $25, and full body can be $45
I am not good at pricing sketches and am better at pricing full color but you are really under-pricing yourself.
>>4264052
Wow, you are amazing! With some more practice coloring the clothing and drawing the hands you could easily charge $300+
At this stage without those finer details you can charge $150. Keep it up!
>>4264377
You are underselling your work, raise the single character and character with BG art by $50.
You can definitely sell the oil paintings for more too! A custom oil painting should start at $300.
>>4265132
Art like the left for $35-$40

Keep it up and don't sell yourself short anons!

>>4265330
>retarded meme
joke's on you.

Hopefully this helps since I am someone who actually buys commissions regularly.

>>4262742
$10
>>4262876
$35-$50
If you rendered this more or colored the entire thing it could really be worth a lot! Fully rendered this could definitely be worth $150-$180
>>4263231
No it is perfect
>>4263891
You can go higher, don't go less than $120
>>4263998
Price these higher, Icon can be $18, half body can be $25, and full body can be $45 colored.
I am not good at pricing sketches and am better at pricing full color but you are really under-pricing yourself.
>>4264052
Wow, you are amazing! With some more practice coloring the clothing and drawing the hands you could easily charge $300+
At this stage without those finer details you can charge $150. Keep it up!
>>4264377
You are underselling your work, raise the single character to $120-$150 and character with BG art to $160-$200.
You can definitely sell the oil paintings for more too! A custom oil painting should start at $300.
>>4265132
Art like the left for $35-$40

Keep it up and don't sell yourself short anons!

>>4264102
Yeah, I understand it depends on context, but I did kept getting multiple critiques about contrast on my work. Thanks for the recommendations! Going to check out Dorian Iten's first.

>>4265113
Wow, thanks for the advice and encouraging words anon!

>>4265748
>Have you read my entire post?
Yes and your post says one thing while the art is showing another. This is why I question whether or not you know what you're talking about. You talked about ambient occlusion but you didn't show it.

So, do you know what it is or not? Stop dodging the question.

>>4265839
If instead of being a smartass you corrected me from the start on whatever it is that I'm wrong, this petty back and forth wouldn't be necessary.

Pic related is James Gurney describing "Occlusion Shadows" in the way I did (or attempted to do) on the drawing.
Is the problem me using the wrong term?
If so, here's Marco Bucci calling the nook of a resting sphere's shadow "Ambient Occlusion". This is not the only place I've seen it being called that:
https://youtu.be/gwLQ0cDb4cE?t=493

Is the problem something else entirely?
Do you wanna share it with the class? Provide corrections if you can, stop being vague.

Seasoned commission artist here. You can't set your prices based on how your art looks like. The only thing that can set your art's price is the demand you get for it.
Demand has to do with a lot of things, not just quality of art.

Seasoned commission artist here. You can't set your prices based on what your art looks like. The only thing that can affect your prices is the demand you get for your stuff.
Demand has to do with a lot of things, most of all with your notoriety. Quality of one's art is very subjective in that regard.

>>4265994
So what you're saying is we should be making chibi furry futa guro scat.

>>4263891
>>4265803

Yup, this is totally worth 130$-200$

Raise it

>>4263998
>Lite fetishes such as futanari
You are the reason God ignores us.

i have no idea what to charge for animu stuff desu

>>4262706
>>4262711
@luma.skye
Is a waist like that still healthy?

>>4265132
I really like the right one, I would pay 70$ - 95$

>>4262876
I like that is not fully rendered, keep that up anom

But Figure some color for the clothes even if something almost white, but I'd give it $120 easily

>>4265407
Bump I need to know

IS IT ALL CELL SHADING ??!

>>4266311
Reminds me of Sycra except more appeal

>>4264377
I'd remove the kike in the bottom right and remove any posting of this image, that could give you trouble once you become more well known.

What do you guys think? They are fine or too high? I think they are a bit high

>>4266811
Disgusting