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4245091 No.4245091 [Reply] [Original]

If you can't draw like this after 8 years off yourself

>> No.4245093

that may as well be a photograph of game of thrones characters. it fulfills the same purpose anyway.

>> No.4245095

>>4245091
8 years of life?

>> No.4245114

>>4245095
I think he means 8 years after this post. It'll be so sad hearing about all those suicides, but if OP wills it then it must be

>> No.4245116

>>4245091
wtf is going on with this composition?

>> No.4245118

>>4245091
this is horrible
wtf is even going on

>> No.4245124

>>4245118
The tiny guy stabbing the ass of the bigger guy always gets me, great technicall skills but one of the shittiest composition I have ever seen

>> No.4245126

>>4245091
2 left hands

>> No.4245133

>>4245126
how the fuck are you seeing 2 left hands?

>> No.4245140

>>4245126
The absolute state of /ic/

>> No.4245147

This is what happens when you only learn how to draw standalone figures and then decide to create a scene. Nothing is connected.

>> No.4245160

>>4245091
>some old guy sitting in snowy outdoors for no discernible reason other than to look cool
>kid jerking off his dick sword in the background
>midget stringing up a bow inside a fucking settlement when no conflict is taking place
>2 guys discussing strategy (?) in outdoors for no fucking reason at all when there's literally a house behind them

this whole mess could be solved if the background is set on a forest or something, I assume the one handed guy is trying to start shit and everyone on the left is supposed to be intimidating him but I really don't know what the fuck's happening here.

>> No.4245166

>>4245160
The old guy is the lord commander, look the pommel of his sword, so the other guys must be his second un command? I don't know anymore, if you have to guess while looking on a pic you failed as an artist.

>> No.4245171

>>4245166
The biggest problem IMO here is that absolutely nobody, no matter how tough they are, will be willing to sit around in snowy weather outdoors doing nothing unless there's a huge bonfire going.

This scene would make sense if they were at a standoff or taking place at a small skirmish, the guy has the skills but is lacking in common sense.

>> No.4245173
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4245173

>>4245171
I think that approach is way to autistic, art doesnt need to be realistic 100%, plus the snowfall is barely a soft one, I agree this could have taken place inside, and show the fortress through a Windows or whatever, but outside looks just as good, the real sin here is the awful awful AWFUL composition, it's horrible, messy and just lead your eye all over the place.

>> No.4245178

>>4245173
>art doesnt need to be realistic 100%
I agree and you are probably right in the sense that it probably won't bother a lot of people who are not "autistic" about something. It's just that I am not a big fan of freezing weather and that's the first thing that strikes me as illogical.

>> No.4245180

>>4245171
I disagree. Big guys like that in such furry jackets? If that were me, I'd sit outside a little bit to avoid sweating.

>> No.4245181

>>4245147
That’s not true at all, there’s a clear definition of light and shadow and all the figures are connected. Not amazing but it’s better than anything you can do

>> No.4245182

>>4245093
> the 'if I want realism, I would take a photo' meme
Keep making excuses.

>> No.4245183

>>4245181
I meant that the composition is disconnected, I thought that was really obvious.

>> No.4245185

>>4245181
No dude, he's talking about the scene as in, what are they all doing? He's not talking about how accurate the lighting is or the abstract pattern of dark and lights. The behavior of the characters is off sync.

>> No.4245186

>>4245180
what's stopping them from just stepping inside and take off their coats then, they only have a tiny bit of snow flaking on the top of their coats so I doubt they walk all the way here and work themselves up a sweat.

>> No.4245190
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4245190

This is why you never skip composition day lads.

>> No.4245192

>>4245186
I could split hairs with you about this all day but my point is they might have a reason to be outside and waiting. Thing is, it's a moot point cause that picture is all over the place.

>> No.4245194

>>4245192
Agree to disagree but we do have consensus on your last point.

>> No.4245229

>>4245124

Composition is a technical skill, so no. Not great technical skills.

>> No.4245231

>>4245229
Ok sperg

>> No.4245238

>>4245190
Composition is literally just a fancy word for arrangement of elements. They dont have to be be in any order lol.

>> No.4245256

>>4245238
pyw fag

>> No.4245284

>>4245091
that's not how a bow works, it's not rotated according to the standing position and even though the string is pulled behind the fkin ear, the bow sides aren't bent at all

other than the lack of research and observation, this is kinda upper beg tier anon

>> No.4245289

>>4245231

NGMI

>> No.4245296

>coping thread

>> No.4245300

>>4245284
>Upper beg tier

Come on fucker, don't be this arrogant, it has it's flaws but is not upper beg.

>> No.4245315

>>4245284
ultimate beganon cope

>> No.4245317

>>upper beg tier
alright anon, it's time to pyw

>> No.4245339

>>4245284
Yeah like this artist wouldn't be worshiped in the draw thread. Shut the fuck up

>> No.4245368

>>4245133
>>4245140

guy in the middle.
right hand looks like a left hand. 3 fingers closed.

>> No.4245375

>>4245368
They are missing, you blind dingus.

>> No.4245378

>>4245238


Not sure if crab or legitimately stupid.

>> No.4245389

>>4245284
ok nerd

>> No.4245397

>>4245375
yeah no shit.
looks like a left hand though

>> No.4245400

>>4245093
Yes just build fantasy medieval set in a big ass soundstage and hire costume designers to craft your own super expensive props and costumes while you blow a snow cannon at your models

>> No.4245404
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>>4245284

>> No.4245419

The piece is ok.. but there are so many flaws with perspective and anatomy in this piece.

>> No.4245425

>>4245116
>framing
OLD MAN
>bowman
HURRY UP GET OFF THE PAGE

>> No.4245427

brothers hildabrant

>> No.4245431

>>4245238
Shut up you fucking retard

>> No.4245435

>>4245091
I don't want to draw like that anon.

>> No.4245488

>>4245419
No theres not, like mame them You faggot, i'm tired of /ic/ crabs who claim they know better, fucking name them or rope yourself.

>> No.4245500
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4245500

this is how I draw after 8 years

>> No.4245744

>>4245091
The archer looks a bit random, just to fill the space.

>> No.4245771

>>4245091
thats pretty fucking easy to draw, they're men, and ugly men, fine details are obscured and anatomy can be stretched and skewed, especially in the face
the coloring/rendering at that point is just polishing >>4245284 is right

>> No.4245772

>>4245771
>thats pretty fucking easy to draw
pyw

>> No.4245775

>>4245091
Why would anyone want to draw like this soulless piece of generic concept art?

>> No.4245779

But digital bad???

>> No.4245783

>>4245488
Not him but that bow perspective is off.

>> No.4245798

this is basically a merc wip but as an entire scene

>> No.4245818

>>4245772
Crab harder :^) You're not worthy of even witnessing my work.

>> No.4245822
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4245822

>>4245095
yes.

>> No.4245829

>>4245124
> The tiny guy stabbing the ass of the bigger guy
Can't unsee.

>> No.4245871

>>4245091
Why do people on /ic/ delusionally shout 'BEG' whenever a piece has flaws,despite all the technical skills it has?

>> No.4245872

>>4245871
There's no such thing as /int/, so you're either a /beg/ or a pro.

>> No.4245880

>>4245871
>ctrl+F "beg"
>only 1 guy is using it against OP's image artist
>everyone else who uses "beg" is shitting on the first guy for being retarded
>the third to last guy in this thread who uses "beg" is a nigger dick fondler

wow I guess all of /ic/ are retarded now huh

>> No.4245909

what if I feel like I could but I'm too lazy to put that much time into one piece?

>> No.4246005

>>4245880
You just realized that? As expected, you’re just retarded like the rest of us.

>> No.4246036

>>4245771
The human figure is the hardest subject to draw well though, soo...

>> No.4246062

>>4245872
Guy makes money so he is a professional regardless of skill level your perceive him to be.

>> No.4246215

>all thoose obvious trolls crabbing this hard

This place is doomed

>> No.4246236
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4246236

>>4245488

Here. And pls be more mindful and don´t act like someone has stolen your whole identity.

>> No.4246243

>>4246236
Try to make your corrections legible next time

>> No.4246244

>>4246236
As i said it is a "ok"-piece, this is even possible after 1-2 yrs. with dedicated practice.

>> No.4246249

>>4246236
Can't read shit on this, but if I got your scribbles right some of your corrections reveals you have invested way too much time looking on the perfect proportions that appear in books, you would freak out by seeing someone with shorter arms un real life.

>> No.4246253
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4246253

>>4246236
how fucking stiff are your joins that you cant move your arm like that
even pic related is possible irl, you just need to actually move around so ur joints dont turn into solid bone nigger

>> No.4246256

>>4245091
crop the bow nigga and the composition is fixed

>> No.4246259
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>> No.4246261
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4246261

>>4246259
i like these guys.
i found them through the shannara series by terry brooks

>> No.4246290

>>4246249

You guys don´t get it, this piece is clearly showing "realism" - it is a cocept-art - so it´s important to atleast have good and acceptable anatomy/perspective.
his figures doesn´t represent midgets, their are adult body-types and one is a young adult.
It´s not about perfect proportion, it is about function and clearly he messed it up. Just look at the archer and observe him and you will see how unatural he appears.
You guys are trying too hard to justify the errors.

>> No.4246295

>>4246290
>concept art
>needing to do anything but show a concept and look cool

>> No.4246299
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4246299

>>4245091

>> No.4246358

>>4245400
you’re just proving my point. the op art couldn’t be animated so then yes, the desired end result would be to make a film. it looks like boring concept art for some boring fantasy film/rpg. I dont have anything against realism, it’s just a really boring premise that may as well be a photo of Lotr ripoff #3748484949

>> No.4246688
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4246688

what went wrong, guys?

>> No.4246764

>>4246299
the character lost his fingers

>> No.4246765

>>4246688
he made it into a turd and then he polished the shit out of it

>> No.4246772

>>4246765
This is not a polished turd, is not a perfect piece either, but not a pt, that is sakimichan.

>> No.4246782

>>4246688
this is a pretty good concept, not perfect, not very creative but solid
>>4245091
this is what makes most people hate digital art

>> No.4246790

>>4246688
good constructed concept!

>> No.4246791

>>4245775
>>4246290
>>4246358
None of you know what concept art is.

>> No.4246802

>>4246791
i don´t have the time to argue with you right now - been practicing fundies atm. have nice night.

>> No.4246804

>>4246802
There's no argument to be had. You're just wrong.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TVji_fiKsw

>> No.4246816

>>4246790
>constructed
theres that word again

>> No.4246820
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4246820

>>4245091
8 years of what?

>> No.4246836

>>4246802
Solid argument. Keep practicing and stop talking about stuff you don't know please.
I worked for both illustration and concept art and this is clearly an illustration.

The closest to a concept that this is image can be is a keyframe for a
cinematic or gameplay/story but I really doubt it since it's overpolished and lack the cinematic feels to it and doesn't represent any key element of a story or gameplay.
(Not the same anon BTW)

>> No.4246861

>>4246836
>I worked for both illustration and concept art and this is clearly an illustration
yeah sure, noob. it is promo concept art not an illustration

>> No.4246868

>>4246836
i don´t have time to clear up what´s illustration and CA - talk to KJG he can simplify it to you.

>> No.4246902

>>4245116
Yeah the composition is kinda iffy, the middle guy suppose to be the center but the old man and bow fag got the lighting effect instead.

>> No.4246915

>>4245091
Anon thats a painting, not a drawing

>> No.4246957

>>4246915
what if I told you it was neither*
*it's a jpeg

>> No.4246959
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4246959

>>4246957
It's jpg retard

>> No.4246983

>>4246959
http://i.4cdn.org/gif/1575786185978.webm

>> No.4247028

>>4246861
Promo concept art as you describe is either illustration, or a concept art polished at the end of the production (not the case here).
And yes when you work as a concept artist you can be asked to do promotional art aka illustration, it doesn't make it a concept art. If it's not primarily for the inside team and goes directly to the marketing team it is not concept art.

>> No.4247099

>>4245425
kek

>> No.4248233

>>4246299
"Halt you cur! Below of me lies the anon of doubles! You shall checketh them."

>> No.4248234

>>4248233

>>4247099

>> No.4248302

>>4245091
this is shit. haha everyone is missng a finger/arm and wtf why is she shooting her bow when they're talking? why the FUCK is that dude so big in the background?

>> No.4249175

>>4245091
8 years of what? 8 years old?

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4249238

>>4246290
>it is a cocept-art - so it´s important to atleast have good and acceptable anatomy/perspective

>> No.4250957

>>4246299
When you can't draw hands so you just re-imagine your characters as disabled.

>> No.4251255

>>4245126
No, i think hes missing 3 fingers

>> No.4251269

>>4245091
is that a city map on the ground in front of them?
if so, why the hell are they discussing battle strategy outside in the snow? wouldn't they do this inside?

>> No.4251271

>>4245091
this is painting you fuckhead

>> No.4251273

>>4245126
nu/ic/ at its finest

>> No.4251275

>>4245238
Ok. Go back to /beg/ please

>> No.4251336

>>4245093
What? This isn't even realism, it's clearly stylized and isn't even a drawing of a scene from the show. They made this scene themselves. The only thing they did originally was use the show's characters.

>> No.4251344

>>4245397
Yeah if you try really hard like an autistic retard.

>> No.4251348

>>4245818
pyw

>> No.4253763

>>4246688
You literally took all the changes in value between the characters and the illusion of space between them out and fucked with the warm/cools. Congrats my guy

>> No.4253959

>>4245091
Why would I want to draw like that anyways? It's soulless, stiff garbage, shit subject, shit composition and shading.