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meditation

>>4227217
You spelled masturbation wrong

>>4227217
What does meditation mean?

>I am getting turned on by this shit, my cock is hard and I'd gladly masturbate but I choose not to and abandon all that lust for the sake of work

Is that meditation in this case?

>>4227236
賢者タイム is but a form of meditation

>>4227213
draw beautiful women

>>4227245
meditation is like clearing your cache. or your browser history in this case

Dopamine fast.
1 month.

>>4227256
damn i couldn't said it better

>>4227256
Alright I can clear my mind for a couple of hours, maybe the whole day. What about tomorrow, how do I get rid of that lust?

>>4227260
I heard something about that, am I supposed to avoid everything pleasurable for a long period of time? What about drawing? How do I find a balance here?

>>4227265
You don’t meditate for a whole day, you meditate for like 15-30 min everyday.

>>4227213
Fap to abstract scribbles, when you find that fappable, you can get a rush out of anything you draw.

>>4227279
I'd rather avoid masturbating as much as possible, this stuff kills me inside and outside

>keep getting told to draw from reference
>everytime I draw a female figure halfway through the gesture all my blood gets pumped to my dick and I literally can't draw until I coom
Women are oppressing us artists.

>>4227213
If fucking would be like drugs art would be like sports
It's not gonna be a constant high, the small obstacles, big wins, and the final results, as well as the call to draw is what's gonna give you the high.

>>4227213
Looking at porn in order to draw will only make you horny and cause your brain will begin to associate drawing and art with an insatiable appetite for masterbation and porn.

Serotonin causes you to gain happiness and pleasure in life. Your body will release it after you can see noticeable progress in your work. Trust me, having serotonin rushing in you and having that feeling of elation after looking at how far youre come is one of the greatest feelings and is more amazing than any high dopamine can provide you.

>>4227213
Take your meds and stop being retarded.

Give me some actual advices instead of porn bad drawing good, yeah i know that already.

>>4227405
>Serotonin causes you to gain happiness and pleasure in life
pleasure is dopamine and happiness is serotonin, you cant have both at once because they share the same transporter

Have a drawing board/sketchbook with you as you watch things. If something catches your eye, try to sketch it. Maybe it'll look bad, but try to capture something you like. A nose shape, how the hair falls on the face, the angle of the neck...

In time you'll start being able to recombine these things you like and your brain will also associate pleasure things you see with drawing already from all this note-taking.

Source: I just invented this method based on your request.

>>4227250
>タイム
WTF I always knew it as モード

>>4227213
>rewire brain

lol, you silly man

>>4227213
You can't "rewire" you brain to enjoy labour. Most workaholics actually hate their job, they're just unable to give themselves a break. In the long run workaholics are bad employees, because they're constantly tired, depressed and prone to human error. I imagine it would work the same for art.

When you draw focus on the feeling you get when you finish something that you're proud of. Celebrate your success and share it with others. Capture that awesome feeling in your memory and pursue it further.

>>4227486
>You can't "rewire" you brain

Yes, you can. If work is the only thing you do, it becomes pleasurable. Though it is very hard to achieve that state, it is possible.

>>4227213
become good at drawing.

>>4227473
That photo is not a real person right? Looks too beautiful for 3dpd

>>4227540
Nope you can't do that. Every human needs proper rest, breaks and detachment from work, otherwise they go crazy.

>>4227974
sorry anon but there are way too many living examples of greatness achieved through brute labour for you to be right

>>4227466
the human body isn't that simplistic retard

>>4227265
>Alright I can clear my mind for a couple of hours, maybe the whole day

I refuse to believe this coming from someone who doesn't understand how meditation can help him keep his lust under control. I bet you can't do it for 15 mins.

>>4227954
This is so ridiculously true. I've been going hard at drawing for 9 months now. I'm nowhere near good. But the rush I get from creating something that doesn't immediately make me want to kill myself is the thing that drives me to draw the most.

>>4227213
damn clairo went full slut

quit all social media, video games, porn, everything basically
some of my most productive time was actually on a vacation as funny as that sounds

>>4227253
>>4228033
These are your answers

>>4227974
They need rest, yes, but "rest" is not necessarily sitting on your couch watching TV, it's just something you otherwise don't have on your schedule.
An office worker will rest not by sitting down, but by getting up and going for a run, for example.

Hyperproductive people can fine tune their schedule and daily rhythm to work intensely and then relax by something equally as beneficial for them, then work again.
The goal here is not to be a workaholic, it's to be a hyperproductive person.

>>4227968
I think it's a gook with heavy makeup (bridge of nose was either photoshop or faked with some makeup liners), but I'm not sure, so it sits in the non-Asian folder for now.

CONGRATS OP finally someone here is asking the right question.
To answer your question, your dopamine from art will increase once your art get better and you get positive reinforcement. Until then, your only option is to lower everything else dopamine so that art is the most by comparison.

The way you do this is to make any other moment of your life beside drawing a painful experience. You want to sleep on the floor and eat dry tasteless food
Not play video games at all and only tap to models you draw after drawing them
also you are allowed to fap to the vision of you being master artist chased by women.
Once you get positive reinforcement from art, you can start bring the comfyness of the others back up

P.S you are allowed to eat good food WHILE drawing

capture the essence of this comment and add to it

>>4228101
she's german

>>4228501
No fucking way. I am German and Germans don't look like this. That's some really heavy photoshop and/or makeup no matter what race she is though. If this was a real person she'd be one of the most beautiful people I have ever seen.

>>4228129
add this post to sticky

>>4227473
>>4228101
these are two different girls

>>4228549
no one claimed otherwise

>>4227995
>no argument
I accept your concession

>>4227473
This makeup trend is most retarded thing ever. The supposedly "cute" blush looks like they have a rash.

>>4228663
Shit Homos Say

>>4228665
t.triggered tranny

>>4228687
Projecting

>>4228008
I don't mean that I can meditate for hours, it means I can meditate for a couple of minutes and then be free of shitty thoughts for longer periods.

>>4227466
dopamine isn't really pleasure, dopamine gives you the feeling of wanting, not liking, dopamine makes you chase after stuff

>>4228663
most likely an app that is changing her face.

>>4227256
TELL ME EXACTLY HOW WTF I NEED THIS! AHHHHHH I'M SUCH A MESS OF A HUMAN BEING!

>>4229453

>>4229453
Go to church, hold (because you are a mess), interiorize the main speech and you will be ready

>>4227217
Meditation is a meme and pushed by yuppie white kids who probably unironically eat avocado toast every morning and half assedly practice some south east asian religion like Hinduism

>>4228704
Dopamine is released when you literally do anything that makes you feel good.
Even walking outside and appreciating the weather releases fucking dopamine.

You retards are making it sound like OP has a meth addiction or something, jesus.
Read a book.

>>4227213
Look anon, you sacrifice the present for the future, when we sacrifice something of value right now, we get rewarded with good things in the future. That's what makes us different from animals, It can be hard to leave gratification that is reliable and instant, more if the conditions you live in make it so that you have not much else, but if you push yourself to bargain instant for the future, you will be rewarded and life will get easier and easier.

>>4231650
Dopamine is motivation and not pleasure

https://neuwritesd.org/2017/09/28/dopamine-is-not-your-brains-reward-chemical/

https://www.theverge.com/2018/3/27/17169446/dopamine-pleasure-chemical-neuroscience-reward-motivation

>>4231642
*sigh*
I'm gonna have to call you a nigger...

Is meditation a meme? I hear a lot about it from different people and they all say that it is a panacea for all disease. Are there people who help meditation focus on drawing and be more productive?

>>4228129
Not OP, but thanks.
I really needed this pov, I had big plans for many things I started yet never finished any because other shit was more joyful.

>>4227213
Draw beautiful women. Problem solved.

>>4233885
Meditation is not entirely a meme, it does have a lot of benefits but people completely overblow what it does. Basicly take the claims about meditation and cut that down to 20% strength and you got your actual effects.

>>4234023
Things about the effects sound great. Can you share your meditate experience?

>>4234166
Not that anon, but I'll share mine. Meditation is just doing the most boring possible thing (nothing) for an uncomfortably long time, and learning to recognize all the subtle ways that your brain tries to trick you into giving up and doing something else. It's nothing all that mysterious, but the point for me is to be able to recognize these distractions outside of meditation as well.

I'm also following the book mentioned here:
>>4229461

It makes a bunch of (to me) more dubious claims about how high level practice will reveal the true nature and structure of consciousness. I'm not far enough along to validate those claims, but the structure of the practice makes a lot of sense to me, and it's easy enough to follow. I'm planning to see it through at least to the point where the author says to expect mild hallucinations and random bouts of euphoria, but it seems like the early stage stuff is the most likely to be practical and useful.

If I had a friend to race with in learning it would be nice. Someone real close and not an internet person.

>>4227236

ok coomer.