/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>4214089
By drawing sexualized males.

>it’s this thread again
when did people start deciding that /ic/ was a dramawhore and gossip board?

>>4214089
No, I only ever get criticized for drawing sexualized males

>>4214089
how is "sexualized" even a thing?
fertile females are by nature sexually attractive to straight males, there's no need to sexualizing them. am i supposed to draw only old/sick women to avoid triggering certain people?

>>4214089
I mean If her spine didn't look like it was bending at a 45% angle and assuming that nothing else changed then it would be 1000 times better. So...

>>4214107
*45 degree

>>4214089
>WhErE aRe HeR OrGanS
"on her chest" - thats all you gotta say. dont try to defend yourself, just double down. Cant be shamed if you show none.

>>4214107
it's called stylization
you're not supposed to imitate the boring limitations of nature, but to bring to life the the superlative, immaterial, femenine ideal

>>4214093
>>4214097
I never thought about the push back to drawing sexualized males, what exactly is that like? Is the criticism mostly from the same group or from a different kind of people?

>>4214089
I liked the comment and moved on

>>4214120
Angry feminists and the other usual SJW types.
>Is the criticism mostly from the same group or from a different kind of people?
Sexualized males are usually used as examples to push back against the already mentioned groups when they try to attack X, Y or Z.

>>4214089
idk if your picrel was criticized but very skinny people can definitely look like that irl

>people keep saying they get criticized for drawing sexy males in these threads
>never post any of their work
Come the fuck on you faggots, I need something gay to fap to tonight.

>>4214142
not that it matters, but please post some pics of qt skinny girls irl anyway

>>4214107
wrong

>>4214122
based

>>4214120
It's mostly from people from 4chan and associated places. It's usually from men reacting in disgust, or saying that they think the body type is too skinny, or that they don't like the character's appearance. Stuff like that. It is basically a gender-swapped version of "where are her organs" now that I think about it.

>>4214096
all the not-bpd-or-gossipy artists were either driven out or lost among the sea of crabs. get with the times, pick a random artist on twitter and try to get them banned.

>>4214089
I wasted my time dealing with it, especially on reddit once it hit the FP

Lesson: Don't deal with it

>>4214093
Based

>>4214089
>How did you deal with it?
I haven't but from the instances of it that I've seen it's best to just double down and reap the free publicity from the ensuing comment war

>dude mostly straight, like to pretend im the girl though

how do i like male bodies?? i don't even like my own...
how to dip out of sexuality

>>4214196
Why were you using Reddit in the first place?

>>4214214
Draw David Bowie, he is the ideal male form

I made the next one even more whorelike

>>4214089
"But women are sexy though..."

no one has ever criticized me for my sketchbooks filled with sexualized women. in fact most women that i show it to think its hot. they complement the hips and things like that .

>>4214120
I got told I'm promoting toxic masculinity because I like buff bastard guys surrounded by hot women. happened only twice though

>>4214142
super skinny girls don't get this type of critique, though. Girls with huge boobs do

>>4214217
If you use Twitter but won't use Reddit out of some 4chan-npc principle then you're a faggot

>>4214384
>implying I use Twitter for anything other then following bio artists

>>4214390
*nip
This is what I get for being a lazy fuck.

>>4214089
A few of my friends have that size and i unironically wonder where are their organs

>>4214089
plenty of room for organs, but those tits look gnarly to me

>>4214089
>Where are her organs!
just tell them organs don't move into the fat!

>>4214296
you think?

>>4214107
wrong

>>4214347
Just never react to these people and don't even acknowledge their existence. They won't have anything to grasp onto, kinda like with a corporation.

>>4214528
fucking burgerland

>>4214106
They mean exaggeration of sexual features, or putting them into sexual contexts.

>>4214107
It depends, OP's pic is fine because the exaggeration helps the drawing and there's still a decent anatomical grounding so it doesn't feel too off.

>>4214563
This is worse because her arms are stupidly short. She'd be a T-Rex from the front.

>>4214704
No they don't mean putting them into sexual contexts, they really just mean having a thin waist and stuff like that. If they had consistent logic then they would get mad at ALL anime and cartoon art because where does the brain fit with those big eyes?
It's based 100% on jealousy of women with nice proportions.

>>4214089

The only artist who deserves the "Where are her organs?!" line is Rob Liefeld.

In any other instance it's just some fatty complaining to make themselves feel better.

>>4214737
Jesus christ where are her organs?

>>4214738
fatty

>>4214737
>tfw RL has made it into an industry and has a way better financial stability than i ever will
>tfw he can't even draw feet good

>>4214737
I just looked the guy up and the pic you posted isn't really representative, none of the drawings I saw looked this retarded.

>>4214089
I'm here to shut you the fuck up

>>4214744
I think this is at the border of being unappealing, but it's still a lot thicker than >>4214737
Also the small waist thing is mostly about width.

>>4214750
I'm starting to think this thread is just there so people can get pics of small waisted girls, if so keep it up

I rest my case.

>>4214751
>>4214753
sick whores, no appeal coomer

>>4214759
Not my point retard. There exist girls with waists that thin. OPs image is not an unrealistic depiction.

>>4214761
not unrealistic, just not appealing

>>4214384
Reddit is a fucking awful place to advertise in though, because of the asinine anti self-promotion rules and retarded mods.

>>4214089
all this body shaming
baka

>>4214122
Chad

You deal with it by placing their critique into perspective. Is sexualisation something that you’re working towards or trying to get away from? Did you solicit their critique? You decide if what they say holds value and if you want to do something with the information.

>>4214089
This is anatomically correct for the most part, her tits are slightly too high and her ribs are slightly too low, the rest is fine. I've seen even even skinnier girls IRL. I'm talking a few inches from the abs to the spine.
People complaining about oversexualization are unreasonable, It's art, you can do whatever the hell you want, and if they won't leave and keep harassing you after you block and mute them report them or ask your friends to help you fuck with them

>>4214089
eh im kinda confused about this whole "sexualizing females" thing. on one side i ralely see anyone really complaining about it, on the other side i see people complaining about others complaining about it (you know what i mean). femanon here, i realize most drawings of female figures on this board have been "amplified" in places that the male eyes perceive as the most attractive, but i amplify things that seem attractive/interesting to me as well. i dont draw obese dudes, i draw dudes with sharp jawline and abs and i dont see anyone telling me to stop sexualizing men. i really enjoy drawing handsome men, its literally pleasant for me to sculpt the face and body in an appealing way, so i imagine its the same for dudes that draw anime girls or whatever.

i think only stupid people care about it. normal people appreciate cool art and tell you its cool. radfems or whatever people youre all frustrated about arent your target audience anyway. so dont sweat it.

>>4214563
Based kinoposter

Did they say that to pic related?
Have these ham beasts ever seen models?

>>4214751
>>4214744
>>4214753

>posting pictures of facetuned girls and thinking it proves your point

>>4214744
haters will say its photoshop

>>4214787
you just have to phrase it right dude, don't make it completely obvious that you're self-promoting. say something like "My niece loves Overwatch so I drew Tracer for her eighth birthday!" or "My Paladin with her shiny new armour!" and watch the brainlets eat it up

>>4214089
I have a fetish for muscular/fat/tall women so no

>>4216068
>>4216078
You can easily prove that it's photoshop if indeed it is. On first glance I'd say these are legit, but I'm not gonna do the work for you to prove your point.

>>4214528
What is she even eating? Cheese?

>>4214089
most people like to look at nice looking people, if anyone "criticize" you for that they are showing insecurities or they are pushing a censorship agenda. Ignore

>>4214744
Imagine thinking this is photoshop, this is what average scandinavian and slavic girls bodies look like.
Amerikka is truly fucked.

>>4214089
An adult female's organs fit within 18". What doesn't are your 200 pounds of lard you fucking whale.

>>4214106
>am i supposed to draw only old/sick women to avoid triggering certain people?
Yes. Mediocre people think any sort of aprpeciation of successful people is a direct attack against them. That's why you never see beautiful, rich and smart people supporting body positivity, participation awards, communism and all that drag down bullshit.

>>4214089
Not yet, but someone will hate my art eventually once i get better. Also, im drawing SFW oppai loli

>>4214348
The fuck they don't, as soon as you go below 20% body fat you get an army of losers who seem to follow you everywhere with "hurr durr she needs a cheeseburger" comments.

>>4214704
They mean "she's prettier than me"

>>4214704
what is wrong with that?

>>4214706
>her arms are stupidly short.
wrong

>>4214089
How about you stop being a faggot?
I mean seriously, who the hell cares?

>>4217076
>bro dont fight back
>bro just let the commies slowly take over everything with no resistance

>>4217108
He is saying ignore what the commies say and keep drawing what you want you retard

>>4217109
If you ignore it they will think youre a pussy and will try even harder, its also much more easy to portray you as something evil if they dont know your stance.

>>4214089
"I'm no faggot"

>>4217005
Jealousy.

>>4214089
if I'm happy with it I tell people to fuck off

>>4214737
God damn, Jessica Rabbit looks attractive why is this so god awful? It’s like she’s twisted up in the middle.

>>4214089

"She" has no organs nor does "she" need them, as we're talking about a painting fucktard.

>>4214753
>>4214744
>>4214751

Shit tier anatomy go back to /beg/ and read Hampton

Thanks god, no one ever drew over-sexualized men.

??????????????

>>4219608
What the fuck, why does this look so unappealing while op's pic doesn't

>>4214744
Unironically needs more L O O M I S

*blocks your path*

>>4219582
Some of these men don't seem to sexualized desu

>>4214753
>>4214751
I feel like that these are Photoshoped. I can buy the idea that >>4214744
Isn't Photoshoped,but I have counts about the other two

>>4214122
This is what people with a thick dick and square jaw do

>>4214093
FPBP

>>4219582
The thing about these covers is that the women in it still look super pretty and curvy, since women want to imagine themselves in the role of a pretty woman. It's different than the super slutty woman for male fanservice, but still very idealized.
And I miss that male archetype, good shit

>>4219608
this is from a video about how not to draw boobs you retarded goblin

>>4220955
Stan i was just surprised that you lurk here and dedicated a whole drawing to a random thread on ic

>>4214089
then ask for their opinion on stylized animals/creatures like pokemon, sanic, or your typical fantasy dragon and ask why aren't they realistic, 2big, breathing fucking fire etc.; you should be able to point out how stupid and absurd their inputs are on drawings 'not being realistic enough'
>>4214178
Except one samefagging neckbeard who complains about a homo threads on /v/ is usually ignored or banned for spam/guro. Compare that to your average landwhale on tumblr who's promoted into journalism and is able to make income from tl;dr blog vents of why Samus is a tranny. On top of that most of the mass media treats these loonies with respect and dignity.


If you actually want to solve the 'muh sexism' crisis, you should raid hollywood en mass and confront those fat white men who had relations with Epstein's sex slave island

>>4219608
>>4219612

>>4221015
The "correction" looks awful

>>4221130

>>4214089
i want to draw a hyper sexualized bitch, steaming and ready from all her holes, and then mistress catches me and punishes me by pulling down my dacks and caning my tush.

>>4214089
>draw DBZ
OMG UR GAY!
>draw hot girls
OMG UR A PERVERT!
>make their tits smaller and give them more clothes
OMG UR A PEDO!

i just don't tell anyone i draw anymore
people are dumb

>>4214089
>where are her organs
>Yes.

>>4221235
Ugly tits are ugly tits, fundies be damned

>>4221015
Oh god im gonna COOOOOM

>>4214214
Just draw traps/androgynous males.

>>4214312
Where can I meet them?

>>4214312
are you an attractive non-sperg male?

>>4221015
unless they're fake?

>>4221270
They are not supposed to be ideal tits, they are supposed to be realistic.

>>4221339
I didn't start drawing so I can draw only ugly sagging tits. Fuck this noise.

>>4221762
dude tit is just a loose pack of meat like a calf or thigh, it just doesnt defy the laws of gravity, you can draw all the round silicon boobs you want nobody says you cant, just accept the fact that even the perkiest youngest tits dont look like OP in this perspective and pose. and how can a normal tit be ugly, you a faggot or something?

>>4221772
>how can a normal tit be ugly, you a faggot or something

Found the roastie. And yes, that proko tiddy is ugly as shit. It's not even very correct in so far that it looks like a typical average breast, it's just weird and lumpy. If the standard for "realistic" is adhering to the average, then it isn't realistic to begin with. Just badly drawn.

>>4214089
Hasn't happened to me yet since my online presence is tiny.
If it did, what would be the correct response? Ignore and draw more?
If I somehow got an audience drawing sexy characters, I'd continue to do that because appealing to the whiners isn't going to make me money or gain support.

>>4221777
christ what in your deranged mind led you to the conclusion im a woman? and where did i say proko's drawing is in any way anatomically correct? im not the person who replied to you earlier you schizo

>>4221255
You could still draw brown-ish, crazy haired, tumblr girl-boy landwhales, with blushed noses and cheeks.
I think thadt's still acceptable.

>>4219878
Yeah, women are hipocrites.
They want only 10/10 men but demand 10/10 men settle for their 6/10 ass or they're sexist chauvinistic pigs, and call all women prettier than them whores and plastic but demand those women to support her when she's spewing sisterhood feminist bullshit.

Nothing opens your eyes to how shitty average or underachieving women are more than living with (or being) an above average woman.

>>4222869
That's somewhat the fault of above average men too. Men would sleep with women below their League but never date them, these low league women then think they deserve at least the kind of guy that slept with them.

>>4221762
then you have a completely unrelated issue retard

>>4222884
I bet he triangles them from the armpit.

>>4222875
>>4222869
welcome to morality, please chose your religion and start having sex for kids again.

>>4214093
but thats g a y

>>4219684
>what's up virgin? never seen a woman with a skinny waist before? i bet you can only date let alone interact with 200lb+ landwhales lmao
>anyways, i'm going back to drawing hentai to cash in from all the coomers like you lol good luck sub 5'10 cuck male