/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Imagine being South Korean.

Cartoon characters have rights.
When will we allow them to vote?

>>4203546
South Korea is ruled by a feminist cult (literally)

>>4203546
Comfort women never happened but they should happen again.

Did you know there's russian site that selling homemade video of naked childen for 30$-70$ and that site is still extists to this day also anybody can get access to it?

What i'm trying to say is pedo culture are more prevalent than people think and loli culture are what keep those people in the frame. If the government forces to suspend loli media, It may force them to cross the line and that only make things worse

People will act like it's just a loli problem but it goes for any character under 18 which is practically every character that wears a school uniform

>>4203547
>Imagine South Korea calling out tumblr for porn
>tumblr as a platform literally BTFO'd a few weeks later
>ooh oh wait no nonono noo-

Korea is just a strawman, it's all a scheme by certain big networks to purge nsfw from the regular internet.

>F-FAPPING TO THE FICTIONAL DESPICTION OF CHILDREN IN SEXUAL SITUATIONS DOESN'T MAKE A PEDO

Lmao, it's like saying that masturbating to kemono doesn't make you a furry.

>/pol/ incels pulling the debunked jpeg chart of the male's sexual attraction to underage girls by age

lol

>>4203625
Aren't /pol/ more into "muh purity, muh nofap" nowadays?

>>4203625
The supreme strawman.

>>4203629
theyd fuck babies if its to keep the white race alive

>>4203630
cope /pol/dophile

>>4203592
jesus christ. how is loli keeping them in the frame? youre mistaking incel basement dwellers with a thing for anime girls with full on pedos. these people would fondle their cousin and freak out if they were really at their wits end. pedo rich businessmen, ceos, politicians, philanthropists - do you think they fap to fucking loli? no, they traffic little children and toddlers and pay parents to rape them. they make videos of it and share it on the internet. this is completely separate problem and its way more serious than some idiots fapping to loli. Google Mark Newton and Peter Truong and do a research on who paid them for an access do their toddler son's anus

>>4203592
Also in Japan, junior gravure (read: 10 - 16 yo girls dancing and posing in sexually suggestive ways while wearing skimping clothing) still alive and kicking today.

>>4203620
who's jewing who now? you tellin me, that the porn industry and the whole media outlet is trying to ban porn from the internet?

>>4203592
more like it's made more people into pedos. it's an easier gateway to make people into pedos because "it's not the real thing" so it doesn't scare people

You may as well just throw me in jail then seeing as how I just murdered like 15 people in GTA5 this afternoon. That makes me exactly the same as a real murderer right?

>>4203641
Just trying to ban 2d porn so people look at 3d porn more

>>4203648
what for?

>>4203651
Money?

>>4203647
like clockwork, the same excuses pedo's make every thread.

>>4203546
Korea is basically a fascist state anyways. Who cares
>>4203625
Even if lolicons were pedophiles it wouldn't matter because loli is a victimless "crime". It'd be like prosecuting people for murder because they played Hitman, or prosecuting someone for accessory to distribution of narcotics because they saw Breaking Bad.
>>4203643
>slippery slope
And by what means can you demonstrate that people who like loli become 3dpd pedos? And if you could demonstrate that, which I doubt you can, why exactly would you rather encourage pedos to find and support sites that victimize and abuse actual children instead of keeping them contained on 2d sites?

>>4203636
His point is that if lolicon becomes as difficult to get as actual cp then there's no reason for a pedophile to even consider the harmless morally superior alternative.

>>4203643
Yeah, and since we have drawn dicks nowadays too everyone is also gay because drawn dicks aren't real so there's a gateway.

>>4203653
And there's never a counterargument.

>>4203592
Not only that. Making loli H illegal means it becomes dirty money, aka the money helps support organized crime instead of going to the government.

>>4203653
>the same excuse
You mean an actual argument?

>>4203647
I kinda agree with this since loli is so far removed from reality that it's basicly not human anymore. To me it never really felt like kids but more like how some characters are fat some characters are black and some characters are loli you know. At the same time I wouldn't miss it, so meh who cares.

>>4203654
>>can you demostrate that?
yes, go to /a/ or even /v/ or practically any board on this site where there's pictures of underage animes girls posted. see what they say

>>4203657
The difference is I don't see people on /v/ talking about killing real people in real life, unlike /a/ where they talk about reality a lot more

>>4203652
2d porn is engaging a lot more people and a gateway to porn in general. your theory is very weak.

>>4203647
SOMEBODY STOP HIM! HE'S AN ANGRY WHITE MALE AND A FUTURE SCHOOL SHOOTER. SOMEONE PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN.

>>4203662
And I'm pretty sure it's common for school shooters and whatnot to announce their plans a day ahead on /r9k/ or some other imageboard.

>>4203663
>muh gateways
Lmao one could argue films and tv shows with nudity and sex scenes are the biggest gateway to porn if you want to talk about gateways. Either way, 2d porn is gaining bigger and bigger markets over the years and nobody likes competition.

>>4203655
>everyone is also gay because drawn dicks aren't real
If you're attracted to men you're gay. Here's nothing wrong with being gay and it's a bit fucked to compare gays to pedos
>>4203660
>see what they say
/a/and /v/ are biased samples, also they're under no obligation to tell the truth so they could be LARPing. Every lolicon on /a/ could be a pedo and that wouldn't mean anything about lolicons in general
>>4203662
See above. Biased sample. But additionally, just because people talk about something doesn't mean associated things become illegal.

If someone was to go to jail, get released, and then put on probation, it wouldn't be illegal for them to say "I wish I could drink alcohol" even if drinking violates their probation. Thought Crimes are victimless. People are allowed to think about whatever they please, illegal or otherwise, and it only becomes a problem when thoughts turn into action.

>B-but it's not real
Still, you are sexually aroused a character despicted as a minor And yes, that does makes you a pedophile.

>>4203683
Having fucked up interests isn't illegal, nor should it be.

>>4203673
>Lmao one could argue films and tv shows with nudity and sex scenes are the biggest gateway to porn if you want to talk about gateways.

yes. everything is getting more degenerate and socially acceptable. so why cut off a limb that is recreating pop media?

>>4203674
>it's a bit fucked to compare gays to pedos
If gays are born and brains are wired to be attracted to the same sex then wouldn't pedos have the same problem but with kids

>>4203643
>Shooting games is an easier gateway drug to make people into mass murders because "it's not the real thing" so it doesn't scare people
Okay

>>4203674
>If you're attracted to men you're gay
And if you're attracted to children you're a pedophile.
Then, by what logic does the availability of fiction turn people into pedophiles but doesn't turn them gay?
Just that there's different moral implications to two conditions doesn't mean the same logic doesn't apply to them both.

Let's make it about furries instead since fucking animals is illegal too. Is there more animal rape in the world today because of fantasy furry porn?

>>4203674
>biased samples
what's the point of arguing if you're being this unfaithful.
>you c-can't just use one of the biggest internet boards where you can't get banned for being a pedo as a sample!
where should I get a better sample instead because I guarantee anywhere I'll find people opening acting as pedos

>>4203689
if your fetish is killing people then I would say shooting games are a gateway too anon. Do you have a fetish for killing people?

>>4203685
Depends. But next time I don't want to hear from lolifags that they're not pedos even tho they clearly get their pleasure from masturbating to drawings featuring underage kids getting fucked.

>>4203683
Stop censoring art pls.

>>4203685
so you think it's okay for muslims to preach about killing non believers to others and their kids, as long as it's not hurting people?

>>4203592
Post links, pls.

>>4203707
Which one of the biggest religions is currently advocating for mass child raping?

>>4203705
But censorship means a ton of income for the government why would ever NOT milk the population for huge HUGE amounts of free money? You must be stupid not to do it.

>>4203699
Someone could have a fetish on beastiality, doesn't mean they're going to instantly fuck their dog in real life.

>>4203709
im guessing muslims? most religions are pedos, what are you saying? I don't like muslims if you think I do

>>4203711
what's stopping them anon? If they're alone with an animal who the fuck will know? There's no consequences for it.

>>4203660
>see what they say
what do we say? we fucking hate 3dpd
unironically lurk more

>>4203692
>Is there more animal rape in the world today because of fantasy furry porn?
Unironicly yes I think so.

Also, will you mods do your fucking job and delete this thread? This is Artwork/Critique.

>>4203687
Sure. But pedophilia harms people when acted upon irl, whereas being gay does not. Thus the comparison is a tad fucked
>>4203692
>Then, by what logic does the availability of fiction turn people into pedophiles but doesn't turn them gay?
That's not what I am saying. I am saying that if you are attracted to something, then by definition you would be classified as having that attraction. If you jerk off to men you're gay, if you jerk it to loli you're a pedo. It has nothing to do with availability.
>Is there more animal rape in the world today because of fantasy furry porn?
No, there isn't. I'll add though that furries aren't attracted to actual animals. Being into animals (in furry circles 2d animal porn is called feral) will get you shit-canned from most furry conventions and social groups.
>>4203693
>where should I get a better sample
How about a general population sample of people attracted to loli? /a/ is a biased sample because on average the people here tend to be more fucked up than most people. They're more extreme here.
>>4203707
Advocating something is not the same as having an interest or a belief. If someone said "I think that more people should kill non-muslims" then that'd be advocating, if they said "I don't believe that non-Muslims deserve life" then that'd be a belief.
>>4203713
2d interest is not real world action. I play Hitman frequently and have been in the same room as someone while I have had a gun with me, and yet I didn't murder anyone.

>>4203647
you are right. you should be in the prison for all your thoughtcrimes kek

>>4203625
redditspacing bot
who are you quoting btw?

>>4203660
>/a/
>liking 3D piggu women

ECK

>>4203719
The gay and pedo comparison isn't fucked at all. They enjoy parading little boys crossdressing at pride events and strip shows. There's a strong correlation between homosexuality and child abuse

>>4203660
>/a/
>Ever liking 3DPD
Please neck yourself because you obviusly dont know what the fuck you're talking about.

>normalfags so sick in the head that they think that pic related even comes remotely close to look like a 3dpd brat

>>4203726
>They enjoy parading little boys crossdressing at pride events and strip shows.
Being gay means you're attracted to men. It has nothing to do with child sexualization and you can't lay the actions of few at the feet of many the same way I can't blame lolicons for actual child rape. It's actually an even worse comparison because irl pedophilia is the same general attraction as loli, whereas liking little boys is pedophilia rather than homosexuality.
>There's a strong correlation between homosexuality and child abuse
Correlation is not causation. Being gay does not mean you want to abuse children. I've also seen plenty of gay people complain about weird shit at pride or bitch about kids being involved in gay culture

>>4203726
gay people are the ones being abused as children, not them abusing children you moron

>>4203625
So should people who jerk off to rape porn be prosecuted for rape? Should furry's be prosecuted as animal fuckers?

>>4203749
And it's gay people abusing them in the first place, it goes both ways sadly. Or are you going to tell me if an adult man fucks a boy it's not gay just pedo. Nothing worse than a gay pedo

>>4203708
I won't risk getting permanently banned for you

Just google it yourself

>>4203760
????? Gay people are mostly abused by straight "religious" or "traditional" parents because it's wrong to them. what the fuck are you talking about?

>>4203763
Oh now you're blaming religion, are you a homo or tranny. And those 'straight people' that abuse them are just closet fags

>>4203666
No there thinking too much about the children! That's why we're in this mess!

>>4203760
Gay pedophiles are gay, what a revelation.
A subset of something is just that, a subset, it says nothing about the rest. A majority of the prison population us some brand of Christian and yet it doesn't mean that all Christians are criminals because "Christian Criminal" is a subset of Christian. If you want to claim that correlation is causation then you have to demonstrate how and why that causation exists.


Source on prisons:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/234653/religious-affiliation-of-us-prisoners/
>>4203771
Firstly I think you and that anon aren't using the same definition of abuse. I think he means child abuse (beatings, violence, emotional trauma) wheels you mean sexual abuse.
Secondly he's not blaming religion. Christianity directly advocates for treating gays as sinners of the worst lot. It's not blame if your book actively calls for it

>>4203771
so the all the countries where it's illegal to be gay and even where they sentence you to death aren't religious or have a "traditional" family mindsets? I guess all those countries are in the closet.

>>4203777
Nice stat, too bad nobodys going to pay $60 for it.

>>4203801
those are savages

>>4203704
Liking underage girls doesn't make you a pedo.
A pedophile is someone who's attracted to prepubescent kids.

Everyone with eyes is sexually attracted to teenagers. You're just not supposed to act on it because they're too easy to take advantage of.

Even in the case of people who like prepubescent kids, you can't reasonably incarcerate someone for having mallicious fantasies that they haven't acted on. That's what we used to have mental institutions for.

But, since liberals wanted to get rid of the mental institutions to normalize fags and trannies, the normalization of loli-cons comes as part of the package.

Either bring back the mental institutions, or get used to having loli-cons around. You don't get to imprison innocent people just for being fucked up in the head.

>>4203831
Lolicon is a the genre of japanese porn that features prepusbecent kids getting fucked.
Sorry anon, but no matter how many mental gymnastics you pull doesn't change the fact that you get sexually aroused by drawings of prepusbecent beings, thus a pedo.

Just because you don't act on it doesn't mean that you stop being one.

>>4203831
I can't imagine how boring you are if you think everyone is attracted to those people. Go to a mall and hear one of them talk and try not to end yourself on the spot from listening.

Why are there so many roasties on /ic/?

>>4203546
hahahahahahahahahahahahah get FUCKED weebshits

i only wish i could fully bask in the glory of you retards getting BTFOd but unfortunately i dont believe in art censorship

>>4203867
They may ban content all they want, that just means we would have to be more creative in bypassing their silly prohibitions.

>>4203546
This just makes me want to draw it even more and post it under Korean twitter handles. Delightful.

>>4203809
The stat is free, just click the graph retard.

>>4203546
>>4203576
>South Korea
>home infamous K-pop industry where idols begin young as 12, go through abusive practice routines along with having to mask their illness everywhere because paparazzi eyes follow them wherever they go (if you're caught leaving a psychiatrist building, everyone mocks you for having depression)
>on top of that batshit fans who literally throw their own period blood/shit onto their husbandos with their retarded bowl-cut hair
>men hire kid sex slaves from Philippines because roasties are too preoccupied with idolfaggotry etc.
>want to emulate jews- literally has the talmud in their constitutions
>of fucking course they loathe the samurai so they ban animu (I think they even banned yuri/yaoi too)
s()y korea has the worth kinds of asian autism in one country, even china looks sane compared to them. hopefully Kim Jung's based korea puts them out of their misery

>>4203809
It was free on mobile the first few times I visited the site, but after I checked again it's locked.

Here's another source https://www.pewforum.org/2012/03/22/prison-chaplains-exec/
The first source I linked was abut chaplains anyways so this should be sufficient

>>4203865
because they're miserable people, they do everything they can to make others unhappy.
personally I'm a witch virgin who's content with anime husbands who don't exist irl; I'll never wear a wedding dress but there's other things that make me happy enough.

I don't get why girls like Zoe Quinn have constant tantrums of the world not revolving around themselves, but I guess it goes deeper with the main stream media controlling what the population watches and wants their attention in a sympathetic light

>>4203658
be wary of being too complacent like 'I don't care cause it doesn't effect me'. If they restrict porn in general, you'll get an electric boogaloo of #metoo where they label you a racist for drawing a black character "too light".

>>4203831
>A pedophile is someone who's attracted to prepubescent kids.
Loli is prepubescent by definition. Loli is 12 and under
>But, since liberals wanted to get rid of the mental institutions to normalize fags and trannies,
Why do lolifags always have beef with gays and trans when pedophilia is more dangerous than both of those if acted upon. Nobody is harmed if you put your dick in a dudes ass or take hormones, whereas children are actually damaged by being molested.

>>4203846
>fact that you get sexually aroused by drawings of prepusbecent beings, thus a pedo.
Absolutely retarded conclusion. Fiction is not reality. Otherwise the following would apply as well.
>the fact you get enjoyment out of killing people in video games, thus a nihilistic lunatic.

>>4203897
The government censoring loli isn't the same as twitter goons brigading you because you refuse to draw black people

>>4203902
I absolutely butchered the 2nd greentext
>the fact that you get enjoyment out of killing people in video games makes you a nihilistic lunatic.

>>4203865
Shota is a thing and has a mainly female fanbase. Not everyone who dislikes lolishit would be female given that fact

>>4203608
not only that, but there are people that thinks all hentai is child porn, even the ones with adult characters, because big eyes = child.

>>4203546
Based
Fuck pedos

>>4203902
And there's the lolifag conflating sexual enjoyment of simulated children to the non-sexual enjoyment of playing a stupid violent game.

People generally don't masturbate as they gun down hookers in GTA, and if they did, there's something wrong there. I wouldn't trust a lolifag being near real life children just because they "won't act on it", just like I wouldn't trust a gurofag near me if they had a weapon on them.

>>4203660
if it is so easy to find why didnt you post a link?

>>4203905
>sjw mobs don't exist they don't dox then try to rob you of your income by harassing your employees and spam service providers to convince them to lose your job
>lol I know whats best for ppl trust me ecks dee
shoo shoo xinnie commie

>>4203982
Don't worry anon I only get off on killing girls.

>>4203997
Thank you Kira.

>>4203546
Absolutely based, moving back there as soon as I can

Isn't south korea ran by actual feminists. It's always saying when they care more about the fictional than real. It's kind of like putting a band-aid on a crack in a pipe

>>4203988
I never said they don't exist, I said that the state doing something is different from a group of individuals doing something. Learn to read you oxygen deficient mongoloid

>>4203704
the problem is that pedophilia has two meanings: having attraction to kids, and have raped a kid. so I can see why they don't want to be called that even tho they are.

Post more cute art, please.

>>4203902
But normal people don't get aroused when killing people in video games and if they do, they should be called nihilistic lunatics, even if they don't act on it.

You get sexually aroused to the fictional despiction of a child, and if the sexual imagery was anything else other than a child, you wouldn't get a sexual stimulus from it.
Pedophilia is being sexually aroused by prepusbecent beings, wether they are real or not. You might not act on it, but are a still a pedophile, plain and simple.

>>4203983
>>>195447279

>>4203982
Otaku culture looks down on social media culture in general
Anitubers and e-celebs are heavily looked down (shit tastes, selling out for money in turn of pretending to like shounen shit etc.) and are at most ignored because they recognize that only preteends who don't know any better like over-reacting screaming tards. Also note that not everyone shares what they fap to in real life to obligated to do so. This extends outside of fetishes too; like the coworker who's physically fit loves gundams and has figures of his own, but he's a bit shy/personal about it so he doesn't tell everyone. (aka hiding your powerlevel)

In contrast casualfags are the most demanding faggots in all of media. Instead of letting weirdos be weirdos, they justify wanting to remove people they hate by spouting low teir psuedo-intellectual philosophy and go as far as trying to make it illegal. Worse still is that they will try to rally a mob by spreading half-truths and poor understanding, taking advantage of emotions and the desire of most people wanting to be 'heroes' rather than just volunteering at shelters or actually helping people in need.

but its alright continue destroying shit, and if you make cities into homeless hellholes where people are now shitting in streets and countless syringes lay on the ground, its still not ur fault and ebery1 luvs u \(;_;)/ *glomps u*

>>4204015
This.
Most "virtuous pedophiles" who don't own irl child porn and don't act on their thoughts still gain sexual pleasure to the mental idea of children in sexual situations. They're still pedophiles even though they're using their imagination to fap.

>>4203865
Ffsss so cute I wanna draw like that ahhhhhhh

>>4203899
>Nobody is harmed if you put your dick in a dudes ass or take hormones
>nobody is harmed if you spread a shitload of stds or cut your own dick off because it hurts your feelings

>>4204007
>learn to read
no u
I referred to private companies, not state. Antifa NEETs do spam emails of 'harassment' and make phone call as well. Its the nature of the rat kings. If you "didn't know" this in 2019, you're most likely a shillfaggot.

>>4203546
stop censoring art

>>4204032
Trannies mutilating themselves is a victimless crime. Spreading STDs to others is not. Let the retards and degenerates kill themselves off if they aren't taking others down with them.

>>4204033
>I referred to private companies, not state.
Where. This thread is about the korean GOVERNMENT (read: state) censoring media. The only pronoun or noun you used is "They" which could mean anything.
>If you "didn't know" this in 2019, you're most likely a shillfaggot.
I never once in my post say that twitter goons don't exist or that SJWs never mob people. The only thing I said is that THE STATE censoring things is not the same as INDIVIDUALS or GROUPS censoring people
Caps used because illiterate alzheimer's patients like you love to shit up threads because they can't use their eyeballs

>>4204036
trannies aren't just hurting themselves they hurt society by merely existing and portraying being like this as an okay thing to do
there are children out there now being groomed by their parents into being trans for money and fame

>>4204040
Honestly there's nothing more sickening than a mother coercing their son into being a girl because they wish they gave birth to one. Fuck people are even doing it to their dogs now.

>>4204032
>nobody is harmed if you spread a shitload of stds
Being gay does not inherently spread STDs. Infected individuals aren't even a third of lgb people and even if they were a majority that doesn't mean that homosexuality inherently means you have an STD or that you can't use a condom.
>cut your own dick off
Surgery performed by a licensed medical practitioner isn't harm. If surgery is harm then I guess everybody who's ever had surgery is a self-harmer.
>>4204040
>they hurt society by merely existing
[citations needed]
>there are children out there now being groomed by their parents into being trans for money and fame
Parents do shitty things. Trans people have nothing to do with crazy parents. Thats like trying to blame christians for the fucked up shit that Westboro or Mormons do

>>4204036
KYS.

>>4204052
So you'd rather trannies not kill themselves and continue poisoning society? Take your own advice.

>>4204053
>Mfw I'm not loli or young looking
Is there any hope for us ugly and oafish femanons?

>>4204049
if some mentally ill schizo doesn't want their arms and legs anymore I guess they can go get a surgeon then its absolutely fine and healthy because its their identity

>>4204062
Nope, you'll start getting called tranny more and more. Better lobby to ban porn of any neoteny girl like Australia has.

>>4204062
Get into superior 2d males

>>4204073

>>4203897
affect

>>4204075
>Part 3 Jotaro bara is now banned for being underage.
Get fucked fem and homo pedos

>>4204075
jesus christ please don't post things like this I can't stop staring

>>4204073
Why not? You're not their parents, they can fuck themselves up if they're not hurting others. Stop moralfagging.

>>4204062
You will find a partner some day. No one is truly alone forever.

>>4204073
A schizophrenic asking to have their arms and legs removed is not the same as someone with gender dysphoria. A schizophrenic is not of sound mind. They can't make decisions for themself or they make irrational and illogical decisions. A trans person has the ability to make sound decisions and has the ability to try other treatments or do research to see if they want bottom surgery. The majority of trans people don't even get bottom surgery.
Why do you care about what someone does to their own body anyways? Hurting another person is not the same as you having surgery.

>>4204062
There is more hope to you than there is to low class males.
But time is of the essence for females. You're loosing way more opportunity every ticking second than a man 10 years older than you.

The problem? You're already in the middle of the scam, so even if you realize it, you've invested too much of your time to just "let go" of what you have achieved on the expense of your love life.

I don't intend to tell you to just give up everything to get a husband, but do give it more thought during your 25-30 range and stay open to opportunities, after that things start to get really tough for you.

If you don't want to have kids, disregard everything I just said, it doesn't make a difference in the long run whether or not you get a partner and having a healthy community to support you will do the trick.

>>4203625
Have you ever considered that some people pretend to be the little girl being sexualized?

I don’t if this the best thread on /ic/ currently or the 12 year old

>fapping to loli makes you a pedophile
lol. and?

We shouldn't allow heterosexuals anywhere near the opposite sex.
We should also make sure homosexuals are kept away from the same gender, don't want them harassing their poor fellow heterosexual friends.

>>4204097
this is an art forum. the argument is about what happens when you draw it. if you drew anything, youd consider that, instead of driveby shitposting.

>>4204108
i do draw loli actually, and i know what happens when i draw it, i cum and people follow my account

>>4204110
Based, now go draw more lolis bro

>>4204097
We are just arguing with lolifriends in denial to make them come with terms by the fact that they are pedophiles

>>4204110
do you think its fair to be incarcerated for drawing a few curves onto a page?

>>4204038
Not literal censorship you autist, it can work indirectly and not be directly in front of you. Common practice is what I mentioned, cutting off income by spamming emails of companies.
>this whole thread is about the goverment dough
because that was never my point or did I even mention it in the first place >>4203897

get fucked faggot

>>4204132
You're an illiterate ape
>it can work indirectly and not be directly in front of you
No fucking shit retard
>Common practice is what I mentioned, cutting off income by spamming emails of companies.
You didn't mention that until 3 posts deep.
>because that was never my point or did I even mention it in the first place >>4203897
The only thing you mentioned by name is twitter goons harassing people. My first response was telling you that twitter goons harassing people is different from the government doing something. It doesn't fucking matter what your post was about because my post clarified that what you're talking about is irrelevant to this thread because this thread is about government censorship and that it is fallacious to equate the two

>>4204084
>You will find a partner some day. No one is truly alone forever.
This is perhaps one of the cruelest things you can tell someone. By giving them hope, you condemn them to despair.

>>4204094
Older women still have it much easier in the dating scene than older men.

>>4204189
this is bs, older man (sucessful) at least have a much easier time than older women.

older women are depreciating assets that already lost most of its value, older men are assets that are increasing in value with time (more money).

>>4204024
Is the newer generation 12-16 present day even into anime in the first place (outside Japan)? I have a hard time believing they are and it's just a bunch of grown adults who refuse to let go of childish things. They have more access to anime than any other generation but the delivery is just not the same as back then.

>>4204231
>(sucessful)
Most older men aren't "successful", ie. earning a very strong wage and aged decently. Women don't find balding and loss of muscle attractive, you're screwed much more if you haven't landed a very good career

Drop the red pill shit because reality will eventually hit you.

>>4204246
I hope you froze your eggs roastie

>>4204268
Hope your future is successful, anon.

...

>>4204274
Y-Yours too

>>4204189
>>4204231
>>4204246
That's why I said she has a better change than "low class men". These are just fated to get out of the gene pool. Religion/monogamy was an attempt to cure this imbalance, but without wars to open a gap in male population it's really hard to keep women from just going through the dick carousel.

>>4203625
I hate loli shit and don't like anime generally but putting pedo shit on /pol/ is funny considering the constant busts of child fucking kikes that have been taking place recently(and always desu). Literally a Jew under every child raping rock. Give me a break.

>>4204246
Actually the "dad type" was kinda popular recently.

>>4203660
tumblr tourist/r*ddit refugee, begone

>>4204478
I've probably been on 4chan longer than you bud

>>4204239
>Is the newer generation 12-16 present day even into anime in the first place
Yes.

>>4204481
I heavily doubt it, amigo.

>>4204481
>bud
newfag detected

The more oppressive laws get, the more people start realizing the government imposing them has no right to exist, and they start just ignoring them instead of living in fear.

Fuck people who legislate against anime.

>>4204246
It’s more correct to say that men and women have different windows of opportunity. For women it’s in their 20s and for men it’s in their 30s. It’s folly to claim that men’s desirability is stable or continually upwardly projecting though because that isn’t true, especially relative to who they plan to woo. A man in his 40s could clean up well with women in their 30s but will likely find it harder to find a woman in her 20s who wants marriage unless he is very well employed. Most men will likewise not make it to 40 having aged like wine (fit, full head of hair, taut skin). If young men are neglecting their health and career development assuming dating will be easy pickings when they are older they are sadly mistaken, the highest likelihood is they won’t be silver foxes. Waiting for the tables to turn is IMO dangerous advice.

>>4203641
I think it's more like since there are a lot of free nsfw sites out there, the networks want to ban all nsfw content in general aka making it against the ToS, and instead they will have their own 2-3 partnered sites that accumulate basically all nsfw content, and where everyone has to be subscribed and of certain age.
I mean porn is the biggest money maker out there so it only makes sense that they want to sit on that goldmine for themselves.

As for nsfw drawings.. idk man they might be shit upon the most since they won't really have a platform to post on unless going to the dark web

>>4204097
based.

>>4203546

Okay so loli drawings maybe be tasteless, but making them illegal brings a whole new shitstorm to the table. We are making something illegal that has no real victims, unless you think that this content creates new victims. And then we get to the question if this is keeping pedos in check or creating them. Similar situation as with the video game violence.

I guess we as a society think that the violence can be used for good, (Killing the bad guys) so it doesn't have a similar stigma as a lolis that really doesn't have any positive qualities.

I honestly don't know how to answer this. I really can't say anything positive about lolis to defend them, unless we get to the hazy argument about them preventing pedos acting on their needs in the real world. I still don't support making a drawing illegal though.

>>4204118
do you somehow think that just being a pedophile should be enough to get you incarcerated? and so you don't want to reconcile the fact that fapping to cartoon children makes you at LEAST borderline pedophile?

>>4204678
The internet is too powerful. Porn will be free for the rest of time

>>4204678
yup, this is what the big players in porn want. Monopoly power.

>>4204696
They can't control hentai artists and camwhores, so the best they can do is try and shut down the platforms the indies use by lobbying and other dirty tactics.

>>4204693
tell that to tumblr, one of the top 3 social media platforms a year ago, and the main hub for free speech and free expression.

AI is also getting more advanced, unless the vid is cropped and has some pixel filter the AI usually flags it pretty fast.

>>4204699
Not that anon, but controlling them is literally the easiest thing.

You can take away the platforms they post on so no matter what they do their content can't be found, and if they don't make money they'll do something else.
You can also ban their IP for trying to post sexual content on sites that don't allow it, and do you really want to start from 0 every few days trying to build your popularity under a new username?
how would you build a community like that over time, the literal essence of your potential success

>>4203546
Anything that tries to get smut shit out of the sphere of arts gets a pass from me.

>>4204682
ah I'd enjoy talking with you over a coffee.

Banned in South Korea

time to draw a loli a day, because art.

>>4204682
>unless you think that this content creates new victims
It's this logic that should be attacked wherever we see it. It's really the source of all this bullshit. Applying this reasoning ("this thing I don't like MAY OR MAY NOT inspire some hypothetical person in some unspecified scenario to do some BAD THING") could be used to ban literally anything provided you get enough crazies / gullibles rallying behind you.

Ironic we have a big blue ball floating in space and the only places where it's legal to draw loli is America and a tiny island where the sun shines the brightest.

>>4203546
>subhuman's court made low IQ ruling
what a surprise

>>4204744
>dude from space you cant see any borders fuck laws and shieet

>>4203576
>>4203881

holy fuck what board am i on right now

>>4204757
You are on board with peace and truth now, anone.

>>4204757
you cant seriously expect a topic like this to not attract anybody who has their two piece to say, especially on a place like 4chan.

>>4204753

uhh yeah?

>>4203881
I have a feeling Kim Jung would actually allow anime if he took over the south.

Professional lawyer here.
Ban on loli drawings is literally establishing thought crime.
There’s no victim to it and you cannot refute this.

>>4204757
You mean its tinfoil tier shit?
Because I thought the same until I saw the last SK president got impeached for being the puppet of a cult

>>4204797
What's the legal status of lolicon in the US?
I think it falls under obscenity, but in that case wouldn't the scat scenes in South Park fall under obscenity (I'd say Drawn Together but one could argue that actually had a point to it)?

>>4204076
The difference with that dude though is a surgeon wouldn't do it. He gave himself severe frostbite in both arms so a surgeon had no choice but to amputate.

Probably due to a cocktail of fetishism, severe body dysmorphia, and other mental illnesses, with regards to that dude. However he had enough mental faculty to know that people would think he was a weirdo if he did it on purpose, so he framed it as "an accident" (the accident being he was dry-icing his arms to help with his arthritis, and "fell asleep" with his arms in the bucket for over six hours) so people would be 1. sympathetic and 2. less likely to realize why he'd done it.

He's an exception, a really extreme exception.

>>4204825
iirc usa allows it but canada does not, hence warnings not to leave it on your 'puter when crossing the border.

>>4203865
Sauce? Google and Saucenao are giving me nothing.

>>4204729
wew

>>4204062
yeah... i dont think so
>>4204075
thiis the only way

>>4203738
Its still an abstraction of a child. There's literally nothing you can say to argue against this point. Prisma Illya is a child in every goddamn FATE series. She is under the age of sexual consent and a prepubescent girl in a world that is a mirror image of ours except for magic bullshit. Therefor she is an abstraction of a child.You are attracted to an an abstraction of a child. Your not doing anything illegal, I will fight for your right to jerk it to and draw this shit but you have to understand that your a goddamn pedophile.

>>4204188
All a women has to do is shower and keep their cunt clean to attract a man. Literally all you have to do is not go after chad thunder cock and just smile at a man and be straight forward. Its not hard.

>>4204856
it's hilarious how these neckbearded stinking manchildren will use that defense constantly.

ITS NOT REAL ITS JUST AN ANIME LOLI ITS JUST A DRAWING
okay but the point is that you want to fuck it, you get hard to the idea of fucking the little cartoon girl so youre a sick loser period. i dont believe in art censorship to be cleaer but saying "Loli" instead of "little girl" doesnt make you any less of a wannabe child fucker it just means that you have the bare minimum social skills to understand that its something wrong so you use your little code word

>>4204687
not every artist that draws something faps to their own drawing.
again, ignore fapping, ill fully concede that fapping to such things implies sexual attraction, implies potential attraction to more than the drawing.
should just drawing these things be enough to be incarcerated?

>>4203738
so in denial that you probably would pretend japs are incapable of sexualizing young japanese school girls and that the word loli has never been used to label sexual representation of underage girls and that manga and anime has never been a vehicle for pedophilic/hebephilic fantasies

>>4204890
>should just drawing these things be enough to be incarcerated?
none of the anons you're replying too said anything about incarceration for drawing. Only that if you draw lolis, you might be a pedo.

The implication here is that that's ok, so what? it's not illegal to be attracted to underage girls.

>>4204856
based retardbro, I don't care about the age I'm obviously talking about the character design and appealing style that looks nothing like you 3dpd whores.

>>4204894
although if youre not socially retarded you understand that it's entirely not okay and pretty pathetic and gross

Cunny

>>4204897
cringe
i like to imagine the people typing this alone in their rooms

>>4204904
seethe harder roastie

>>4204905
epic 4chan slang /b/ro
brofist!

>>4204907
>nooo you're not allowed to do what I do with my buzzwords
cope

>>4204908
x'D cope BTFO libtard tranny NEET 3dpd!!!! b-back the fuck up!?!?

>>4204894
>none of the anons you're replying too said anything about incarceration for drawing
its an art forum. i figured that would be worth debating. these images dont just wander across from another dimension, somebody draws them.

>>4204911
>went full retard after people started playing his game against him

>>4204917
>fucking BTFO'd online by my epic greentext 4chan.com sweaty post winrar!!!
>god im so calm and collected i could just cum U R SILLY!!!

>>4204897
she looks like a fucking child. I really don't understand what argument your trying to make. She doesn't have tits and there's barely any curves. She's dressed up as a goddamn magical girl. Magical girls are ALMOST ALWAYS in middle school. The series is about a bunch of loli's lezzing out. You understand saying shit like this paints you as a fucking retard cum brain that barely has any functioning deduction skills right?

https://vocaroo.com/i/s0cjBy0QROOA

>>4204925

>>4204934

>drawing naked children makes you a pedophile
>drawing rape makes you a rapist
>drawing snuff makes you a killer

>>4204958
correction
>drawing naked children makes you a pedophile
>drawing rape means you have a rape fetish
>drawing snuff makes you a gurofag

>>4204958
Nice flawed strawman. You can be a pedophile without having sexually assaulted children, the same cannot be said for the other two.

>>4204963
You’re not legally a pedo until you’ve fucked a real child. Following your logic it’d be called having a child fetish.

>>4204968
>You’re not legally a pedo until you’ve fucked a real child.
>You're not legally a straight man until you've fucked a real woman
>You're not legally a faggot until you've fucked another man or you're OP of a 4chan thread

>>4204968
pe·do·phile
/ˈpedəˌfīl/

noun
a person who is sexually attracted to children.

>>4203546
im not a degenerate pedo so it doesnt concern me

>>4204975
Alright, my bad. You actually can’t be a pedophile legally (even though it is recognized as a psychiatric disorder), but that also means being attracted to children is not a crime. A crime is having sex with one and that’s it.

>>4204981
sure it does. art censorship affects us. china's art censorship affects us. youtubes art censorship affects us. shit even /ic/ censorship affects us.
> heres a list of things youre allowed to draw. dont dare leave a scribble resembling anything else.