/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

This is my first attempt at trying to 'study' other peoples work I feel like i understood very little. I also feel like theres alot of infomation i wasnt able to pickup because of different mediums and my very crude understanding of clothing and hair. What else am I not understanding and what should I focus on understanding?

https://exhentai.org/g/1508582/e58c305af2/
Find a neat book full of redlines

>>4181397
Do you have the source for the middle and right one?

>>4181418
Yes
https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=2135316&tags=yana_(nekoarashi)
https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=2178724

Started a study but realized the coloring was way above my comfort level, especially how most of her skin/ hair is in shadow, I have no idea how to deal with that. I think I'll just leave it at that and move on to something else

>>4181456
Dude just fuck it and finish the study, in the end of the day you’ll never be happy with any piece unless you put the enjoymet into it via the process.

How do I get better at gesture? I don't know how to FEEL so my studies always end up having the poses/center of gravity off as well as the stiffness.

>>4181397
Anatomy. You're not getting the forms of the characters, you're just slapping limbs on clothes (not sure how else to describe it).

Try drawing them "naked" first.

If I was to do a "web manga" should it read left to right or right to left?

Are these threads worth posting to?

>>4181599
yes but also no

>>4181585
Your choice, really. Which way do you want readers to read it?

How anime is my art? I'm gradually thinning out the lines.

>>4181585
Just do it left-right, else you'll come across as a try-hard weeb

>>4181612
Unless it's western style, fuck that. You're already a fucking weeb I'm not going to try to readjust for you every single time.

>>4181611
Too western, study more nip artist

>>4181611
head up is pretty good but the body structure is a bit too muscular/rigid for anime style.

>>4181619
That what happens when you get ntr’d by loomis and anatomy fundamentals

>>4181616
I want to draw like Ataruman.
>>4181619
I'll try to soften it up.

>>4181625
Do a study of him then, study his art, study how he approach drawing and study how he applies what he learned and applying it to his own personal work so you can also be a carbon copy of him! How about study from other artist you like and combined all what you learned for your own animu artstyle that you desire anon kun

>>4181585
If you don't plan on writing and/or translating it into Japanese, there's not much point in doing it right to left.

>>4181611
>>4181625
You should try drawing with thinner lines.

This is my completely original drawing what do you think.

>>4181707
Mikufag called and wanted his lolis back

>>4181709
Who's mikufag.

>>4181713
A pedo that never got any good.

>>4181721
Is this guy mikufag >>4176086

>>4181628
Based, you should always study a few artists to be able to mix their art together and create something unique, you'll be happier with the results

>>4181611
On the left (her right) eye, the eye crease is a bit off anon, and I think the eye is too close to the center, I'm anticipating your future art

>>4181552
For feeling it (while looking at the photo), I think Proko's videos explain it well. For transferring it on paper, I also struggle. I think it really comes down to the amount of practice as every instructor repeats they have been making students draw gesture for many hours straight

I feel like everyone and their moms are learning to draw anime and I fear the market will be oversaturated

>>4181456
Think about the order things were done. It seems he painted it normally, then added a bluish multiply layer on top and then painted the rim light.

>>4181749
>using layers
Must be the realism and getting use to painting everything in one layer.

>>4181707
You fixed many things in Mikufag's drawing, but the composition and pose still aren't close to good (because you haven't changed them) and she's not a loli anymore which is probably a good thing.

>>4181257
What's this Hyan brush I hear about? I'd like to have the right tools before I climb my way to superior lineart.

>>4181464
>>4181749
True, I'll try and finish it then. I hadn't thought about filters so maybe that will help. Thanks

>>4181796
Where have you heard about it?

>>4181837
A thread here. Looks like we’ll have to make our own since it’s not on the asset store.

>>4181840
looks like the sai watercolor brush

>>4181840
>>4181846
I found the source:
https://sta.sh/0bwaij0z1jg
I strongly dislike her art, but maybe the brushes are alright.

>>4181625
Just watch his streams lmao hes on twitch almost every day

>>4181847
Curious, why do you strongly dislike her art?

>>4181898
Not him but Hyanna’s stuff is the most generic content imaginable that can easily be lost in a crowd.
That being said, her lineart skills is still something we have to extract for ourselves despite my attitude.

>>4181847
Does this brush work with pant tool sai?

>>4181905
She has brushes for both. That link is a DA page.

>>4181898
The colors don't seem to be toned well and highly saturated, they feel a bit "apart" and in my opinion it causes the drawings to not feel delicate. The girls she draws don't seem very subtle nor cute because of this, and also because of the expressions. They lack the shyness seen in most anime illustrations. The hair feels plasticky and mostly shaded with the same hue. The composition is very bland, as every character is in the center of the image which makes the drawings non-immersive. Her jaws are often spiky, I don't think what she draws is cute, it doesn't give me the gentle feeling. One of my favorite artists is pic related, and... she just doesn't seem to have it

>>4181721
>>4181755
Wait so that's mikufag? I've seen their name dropped a lot before but never actually made the connection that that was them. Just thought it was some weeb who was the nonce equivalent of that dude that keeps drawing the grotesque, muscular brainlet guys blowing each other's asshole out with their enormous, veiny turd-cocks.

>>4181943
>that dude that keeps drawing the grotesque, muscular brainlet guys blowing each other's asshole out with their enormous, veiny turd-cocks.
...what?

>>4181952
This guy.

He always draws the same stuff. Never changes, never accepts advice or critique. Never improves. It's like a goddamn horror show only the terror is real instead of manufactured.

>>4181611
Are you sure about that user name? Coomer is a relatively new term and it might not stick

>>4181847
Nope tha'ts not it.

The csp It's missing the texture, and she just says
"it's agaisnt the rules my hands are tied"

Does anybody have it?

>>4182050
the texture is impasto, its in the program

>>4182065
I'm a huge brainlet anon, I looked on the defaukt testure list an none of them is called "impasto". Where can I find it?

>>4181982
that's fine, let him be forever associated with some shitty discordfag meme

>>4182072
nevermind it's literally the first choice. I cross chcked the moon runes and they are identical. My bad.

>>4181961
This is the ideal male body. You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like.

Study accordingly anons. Anime alone comprises about 18 billion dollars.

>>4182095
Being an animator in Japan sucks.

>>4182095
That says animation. That doesn’t say Japan animation.

>>4182095
That money ain't going to the animators for sure.

I tried doing another study, but i noticed i make mistake with the tits often and something with facial placement. I dont think i have good understanding of exaggerated features or something with construction.

>>4182105
Study muscular anatomy and fat placement/physics.

>>4181840
Dam I just tested her brush... it's great. call me impressed.

>>4182108
Muscular anatomy in general with focus on arms and legs pelvis, yes? What are good resources on fat placement?

>>4181847
Can't replicate it without seeing the pressure curves

>>4182139
You can "replicate" it like you'd replicate a SAI brush, so your aim is to get as similar results as possible

>>4182158
>You can "replicate" it like you'd replicate a SAI brush, so your aim is to get as similar results as possible

Well I've never used SAI so I'm not sure what that means

>>4182171
When you can't transfer a brush to one program from another, so you need to replicate it, judging by eye if it's similar enough

>>4181847
Is there a download link for the csp version or is it just an image showing the settings?

>>4181397
Copy better artists. Spacejin is fine though.

Jesus I can't thank enough the anon that shared those pin 2d tutorials. They have been a huge eye opener.

I finally get how the ribcage is hugely important to decid how meek/strong feminine or masculine a figure is.

I have seen lots of paid stuff that isn't half as informative.

>>4182218
I've exported it as a .sut file, all I've done was applying the settings and texture she mentioned to a "Pencil" brush. Sadly I can't test it with a tablet at the moment to see if it's completely identical, she showed only a few settings after all so I left the rest at default. Hopefully this works together with the texture.

https://mega.nz/#!GggxlAII!LT0Q8opznVkNkDc9jUi7GNaz9DSQzHuu-IGyvwhNyMA

I did these the other day, as a first attempt at studying an anime/manga style I enjoyed. I barely did any construction beforehand - this was a huge mistake, and has become obvious to me since then.

>>4182410
absolutely based, thanks anon

>>4182410
based thank you anon

>>4182410
Thank you anon... Though I thnk Hyan is full of shit. Doubt this is the one she uses for inks.

This one lacks opacity pressure sensivit so she must use it for inks... but it's too fuzzy to give clean art like a G-pen.

Does anyone know where I can find just a hge library reference for anime eyes?

I just want to copy different eye styles for reference to learn. Thanks!

how can i give more depth / imply the shape of the eye sockets? using placement of features, proportions, contruction, perspective

>>4182614
learn how to place the folds of the eyelids without going full realism if you want to keep that simple style.
Maybe deforming the irises more to imply a more spherical shape, and so it doesn't look like he's high as fuck.

>>4182614
eyebrows

>>4181982
It's not very creative I know, I did it as a thowaway, perhaps I should change it now that my account is gaining some traction.

Something I just did from imagination after liking a particular gesture exercise. Pretty shit at coloring, you can ignore that. I just realized the foot is backwards too lol. I was having a lot of trouble making the boobs look right, especially the one closest to the viewer, if anyone has advice on making them sag properly.

>>4181611

>>4182871
Pretty much

>>4182871
>>4182895
Not that artist... bu eh I see jealousy here.I wish I was at that level

Guess I'm desperate to be here among so picky people

>>4181257
is it okay to draw prominent noses? or has it been too heavily shafted out by the modern anime artstyle? ive given most of my cute girls decent conks and i feel like they scream western

>>4182871
My followers likes muscle chicks.

>>4182922
Aim higher, kid.

>>4182937
But is that what you like?

>>4182937
Then study some muscle girls, what you drew just looks unnatural, like those retard bodybuilders injecting their muscles with oil.

>>4182473
>>4182505
You're welcome anons

>>4182563
I might have overlooked a setting, the stroke preview on her picture shows lower opacity at start and end (I think). I will try to replicate it, at least her inking brush.

I also think that she's unwilling to share her actual brushes, she would share the .sut file with the texture removed otherwise, it's not a secret to keep after all. It would be nice because not everyone has time to fiddle with the brush settings, especially when trying to move to a new software. I know most SAI users refuse to switch because it's difficult to find similar brushes in CSP.

>>4182933
Do you have a reference anon?

>>4183147
Relax my man, it takes time to improve.

>>4181611
coomer_man where?

>>4183332
Put coomer_man in Twitter search,you'll find him

>>4181732
Well shit guess the answer to everything is just spam studies.

Dam I don't want to copy Hyann style... but her lineart is so gorgeous. It's just so crispy clean.

What's her secret?

I even tried her brush and it looks fuzzy instead of crispy.


ARRRGGHHH I've spent all morning trying to reverse engineer how she manages to have such great lines and I can't

>>4183464
If the brush has textures it might be that she uses a way higher resolution for the canvas. You can also try to scale down the texture settings.
Honestly from pic related, you can probably also do it with a regular round brush.

>>4182822
any crit?

>>4183468
i think you are onto something anon. Maybe it's just that she is working in a huge canvas that it looks super crispy.

>>4183464
She has something called Easy Pen right below her own. It’s even on the asset store.

>>4183493
Her settings showed size 15, in case that's really used for inking, try an adequately big canvas for size 15 lineart

>>4182822
I recommend putting in the nipples, it'll help you get a better idea of where the boobs are facing. Tits aren't perfect spheres so that's kinda relevant.
Are you gonna give her a bikini or is she supposed to stay nude? Because wether or not she's wearing anything will affect how her boobs should look. A bra or bikini will squish them together and upwards, but if she's nude they'll point away from each other and more.
You also need to take the shape of the ribcage more into consideration, it's not a flat surface.

But honestly, you have bigger problems than tits. Aside from the backwards foot her hand holding the glass is also backwards - either that or she has a disturbingly fat pinky.
And that stretched out leg looks messed up, the shape needs to go inwards at the back of the knee, the broades part of the lower leg comes after that. Think about where there needs to be space for the leg to bend!
Perspective of the wall behind her doesn't match the character.

Face and hair are the best parts so far, it's clear that you have more experience with those than with the rest, so keep practicing your anatomy.

>>4183549
Thank you so much anon, it's amazing how clear mistakes become once someone points them out. I feel pretty dumb now for leaving the clothing ambiguous, of course that will affect how the breasts lay. And yeah I'm not sure how I got both the hand and the foot backwards, I just need to pay attention more I guess. After mainly focusing on heads, I'm now starting to learn anatomy so again thank you.

Did this in a hurry a few weeks ago when this was a meme, yes I traced gigachad. Sorry if the rendering looks shitty it was my first time coloring something. Learned a lot

>>4183639
Forgot pic sorry

>>4183464
I've watched some of her videos. She usually cleans the lines repeatedly with an eraser. Maybe try that?

>>4183640
Handsome Shirou!

LET ME DRIVE THE BOAT! Shrivel in the cold pit and die fags you aren't gonna make it. You never accepted my energy cussoon/\.

You sap me. Molasses.

me fina nah?sl

WHO WANTS A REQUEST!? pay mE

>>4184124
me

>>4184127
Oh! what you want?

>>4184128
A clown, can you draw that?!

>>4184129
Oh! Absolutely! Here you are.

>>4184131
WOW you are amazing!!!!!!! Thanks

>>4184135
Thank you I know I am.\ :)

>>4184112
>>4184113
>>4184118
>>4184120
>>4184124
>>4184127
>>4184128
>>4184129
>>4184131
>>4184135
>>4184137

>>4184131
WOW you are amazing!!!!!!!

>>4184150
Thank you

I'm very bad at rendering/shading, are there books that explain it clearly and slowly? I'm a bit retarded and slow.
Here is my work

>>4184247

>>4184131
It looks so quickly done but it still so good. How do you do it? Teach me, senpai.

>>4184131
This looks like dogshit.

>>4184472
Jealous much? pyw crab

How the fuck do you paint water? Water droplets on glass in particular

>>4184528
Be murata

>>4184802
>be God
I wish

Anyone has this guy's pixiv fanbox content?
https://www.pixiv.net/fanbox/creator/35981877

>>4184802
I need a solution right now though.

>>4184787
No offense but this is hilarious to me for some reason

>>4184828
It's supposed to be funny in a way

>>4184834
Ok good, good job then

>>4184841
Tnx

>>4181707
Needs more Chromatic aberration and filters desu.

>>4184916
>>4181707
I forgot to resize.

>>4184918
How does someone turn into this let alone be okay with it?
I look at this and pray that the person sitting behind me doesn’t peer over this. Hell I’d rather them see Rem hentai on my screen than this loli meme.

>>4184918

I finally finished this cursed study from last thread bros... I changed and simplified a lot of her armor though

>>4184882
Did you draw this, anon? It's pretty good. I like the hatchwork.

Redid the boobs, foot, hand, and gave her a bikini top. Thoughts?

I'm getting faster and better at drawing heads and bodies, but my lack of understanding of how clothing folds and flows is starting to really show.

>>4185510
B-boys shouldn't be dressing this lewd!

>>4184918
Based mikuchad

>>4184918
This is Salvador Dalí level of surrealism.

>>4185430
Yes, thank you.

>>4184918
>its signed

>>4185195
That’s nice looking

>>4185510
Where'd ya learn to color like that?

>>4185549
nig

>>4181257
Who did the illustration in the top left? Reverse image search isn't bringing up anything except Weibo links that don't lead to the same artist...

>>4185818
They're all done by Han0v0
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/77225354
https://twitter.com/Han0v0

>>4185825
Is this yours? If so, good job.

>>4185825
all by the same artist!
dam.......

>>4185825
Thank you!

>>4185828
>Is this yours? If so, good job.
No, it's Han0v0's but I gave it a try. Well, that's enough drawing for November.

>>4185783
Not sure. Started off using the plain watercolour brush in Sai. When I moved to Clip I just did the same thing since the watercolour brush is virtually identical. I should definitely start making some other brushes since smooth watercolour texture isn't appropriate for everything (like that cauldron pail he's holding)

Ideally I'd like to be able to do textures like noeyebrow313 on twitter, but that's a pretty far ways off.

>>4185991
Looks so smooth and well blended. Not that anon,but thanks

>>4184918
Looks like a South Park character. Look at that fucking face!

Hi /asg/ so now that I have finally finished Inktober I am back again ringing you the 41-50 batch of the mad quest of studying the faces of that gif.

My current feelings are slightly underwhelming, maybe because of Inktober or something. I had to take days of breaks from this because Inktober and IRL shit cutting into my time, right now I do not feel confident about learning it more. It feels like I have regressed during this batch linework doesn't look appropriate and I had troubles finding the proportions many times. Perhaps I just got Dunning-Krueger'd and didn't take it seriously enough while working on it.

But rest assured I am not stopping I have came to the halfway mark this project will be finished. I am still not confident in trying something similar on my own but I may just be out of practice. Maybe I should try a set that is my own now that we are at the halfway mark just to see?

As usual I will post the total progress (if the file is not too large again) and the soul.

>>4186436
The Soul

Seems the full progress file is still too large again I'll see if I can reduce it somehow.

>>4186436
Here we go I simply forgot to reduce the size

>>4186436
The absolute madman

>>4184918
Why is her bellybutton on top of her uterus.

Ok how the fuck can I export a single layer from CSP to Photoshop? What the fuck? Nothing seems to work. Making a selection then paste it to photoshop works but I lose all transparency
pls help

>>4186672
Save as a psd file, dumb dumb.

>>4186673
Holy fuck I'm dumb. Thank you.

How do people make the ass and tiddies look 'squishy'?

>>4186694
You squish them. Treat them as soft bodies with physics rather than perfect unnatural spheres. Have them react to gravity, soak into arms, hang up on strings, etc.

>>4185890
I like it anyway!! Keep going!!!! :>

>have idea for drawing
>realize I have never drawn a male anime face and have no clue how to make it look good
not seen: 1000 redrawn faces that looked retarded, even using references
what the fuck, any guides on male faces?

>>4186870
>males
nah

>>4186870
Well since it's fanart, why not do some studies of the character's face from the source material? Obviously that won't mesh entirely with your style, but it should give you a starting point.

Some kind of potato ninja

>>4186959
>bottom left
hey i know that face

>>4185500
Certainly better than before, but that stretched out leg still looks messed up. You might wanna look up a reference for that and fix it.

The foot that's standing up also has a strange shape, feet usually get wider towards the toes, not narrower. I understand that you're going for a profile view, but there's still more of an outwards curve towards the front.
Lastly, this is more of an aesthetic thing, but I wouldn't recommend drawing in such defined toenails unless you're also drawing in defined fingernails - the more detail a section of an illustration has, the more attention it draws from the viewer. Most artists just imply nails or even leave them out altogether unless they have a more detailed/realistic style. Of course, it's perfectly fine to draw feet with lots of detail if you find them sexy and want people to look there, but in that case you'd have to seriously step up your foot game and make sure they look appealing.

I think i might be drawing to small and taking too long drawing faces like 40 minutes and im not sure if its because I'm drawing small, like it feels like every .5 mm changes where the eye is looking or facial expression. I am not good at drawing faces especially at angles i am trying to understand. Am wondering if trying to think of angles with right triangles is a bad thing and is hindering my understanding form at angles.

>>4187102
If the face is shorter than the length of your pencil then it's probably too small for practice and you end up micromanaging.
Start big and go small later as you learn to pare things down and accurately place dots of ink.

help pls

This might not seem like much, but i've neve being able to draw bodies... and still can't.

But still thanks to pin2d I will closer to being intermediate than ever. Just wanted to share.

I'm trying to learn ricages... and mand they are hard.

>>4183710
>erase
Nope... actually what worked for me was upping the stabilizer riiculously high.

I don't have her dexterity so... that turned for me iking from something I dread to atually something fun.

>>4186436
I commended you of your autism and the will to finish it! I believe in you anon!

>>4187179
Well I wouldn't say intermediate... try doing some studies and learning anatomy, which the pin2d construction methods are only a supplement for

>>4187226
I didn't say I was intermediate... I said my goal is to be intermediate.

>>4187226
>>4187228

by the way, I've already studied anatomy... my issue isn't not knowing anatomy but being unable to draw anatomy with 3d shapes.... which pin 2d is helping me.

Again I said... this is helping to get to intermediate. I didn't say I was one.

>>4187228
>>4187229
You said "closer to intermediate than ever"... yeah I don't think so buddy. I would study anatomy a bit more, I don't think you did enough the first time around. Who gives a fuck what you said, let your work speak for itself. Not good.

>>4181257
https://e-hentai.org/?f_search=%22how+to%24%22&advsearch=1&f_sname=on&f_stags=on&f_sh=on&f_spf=&f_spt=

lot of anime drawing guides.

>>4187247
Yeah I'm getting closer than ever, because i am actually learning and making progess. I never said I was good. I was just happy I was learning that's what it means.


Dude don't twist my words. obviously I need to do studies, that's why I shared my progress agan I never said I was intermeditae.

>>4187251
>>4187247

"I'm closer than ever to my goal" =/= I made it

You're confusing me being happy of some progress to feel all smug about it. Dude seriously?

>>4187247

I don't think you know what "getting closer" means .
In this case, I was just saying this is helping me a lot. You are acting all smug about it by going achusally you are not that good.

No shit. I was just happy this is helping. I never said I was good. Dude come on.

>>4187251
>>4187254
You're obviously some ESL retards so I'll spell it out plain and clear: I don't give a fuck what you think, what you said, I'm just telling you that you are hardly intermediate, you need to study more, your anatomy is currently shit, and if you're improving then I'm glad. You're getting assblasted for the wrong reason.

>>4187179
Then grind you fucking nigger,
Grind Grind Grind Grind Grind Grind ect.
Just fucking draw anatomy and poses from reference for weeks to the point you hate drawing them and have the ability to shit them out without thinking about it because you just drew so much shit that you have gained unconscious competent.

>>4187258

Says the guy that doesn't know what "getting closer means"

Again. I never said I was intermediate.


My issue is you trying to imply I'm trying to pass off as one. Which is not the case.

>>4187258
>>4187261


Telling me I'm shit is cool! No problem!
Implying I think I'm better than I am .... yeah I take issue with that.

I do know I still've a lot to learn

>>4187261
Great advice bro. WILL DO. I'm currently grinding ribcages.

Still in leasson 2.

I was just glad I made a little progress.. I know I'm still shit.

>>4187264
>>4187266
Fuck off, you're acting like a fucking 12 year old. You're absolutely seething about this non-issue and keep replying everytime another thought pops in your little mind. No one is implying anything and no one gives a shit.

>>4187172
looks fine but the skirt looks kinda off think the front should be higher

>>4187102
You're not filling the space on the paper very well, but it's hard to tell how small you're really drawing without knowing the format. Assuming you aren't working bigger than typical sketchbook or printer paper size, try doing one face per page and actually filling the paper.
You could also try sketching in pen or a regular/non-erasable colored pencil. The results won't look great, especially not at first, but it'll speed up the process and force you to think more about where to place a line. And you can always do several attempts at the same face if the first one turns out horrible.

>>4187179
Pirate Proko's premium anatomy lessons from cgpeers, they really helped me in seeing the bones and their landmarks (warning they're REALLY cringy, but those dumb skeleton shorts kind of help you remember stuff). His critique videos included are pretty based. Also you have to start using forms, egg shape for the torso, bowl shape for the pelvis... It will make things way easier. Drawing the center line really helps. Look into Vilppu, Hampton, Huston before Proko's anatomy lessons. Not the whole books/videos, just the general torso and pelvis lessons for now. Very simplified so you're able to draw pic related. Your clavicles are extremely low BTW, you drew the line mark for clavicles but drew them separately and lower. You need to read/watch more, you will significantly improve after developing an understanding

>>4187187
Anon meant that the eraser gives the line crispness, like when you draw with a soft brush and erase the edges with a hard eraser

I found a bunch of anatomy tutorials
http://dasshutu2010.blog24.fc2.com/blog-entry-1.html

>>4184859
He's laughing at how shitty your art is dummy.

>>4187187
She draws with a super high stabilizer as well

I made it bigger like around 14cm vs 4cm. Its still taking me around an hour and 20minutes. About half an hour was spent on construction trying to figure out where everything was facing. About 20 was spent on facial details. And the rest of the time was spent on the hair.
Still looks incorrect with mouth, nose, jawline and hair 'thickness'.
I'm going try on another different head and see what happens.

Forgot image

>>4188425
>>4188426
You need to work faster. Have you done the exercises in Loomis? Do you understand perspective? It should take maybe max a minute to lay the basic construction down. Work smart, don't focus on the study being a perfect millimeter recreation, use studies to apply skills you are learning.

I used a stopwatch instead of guessing and took out the time i was distracted.
Took 10 minutes for head construction alot of which i think was on making it so the lines dont look like ass. I tried to be more aware of not taking ages on it.
30 minutes for facial placement and details and other adjustments.
And 25 minutes for the hair, 7 of which was shape.
>>4188452
I didn't do the exercises in loomis i went to hampton for the head. My understanding of perspective is not great.
>use studies to apply skills you are learning
I'm not sure what i should be learning asides 'learn the head at different angles' If im assuming what i should be learning i think it would be line weight/line confidence and facial placement along horizontal axis.

>>4188588
>I'm not sure what i should be learning
actually learn how to construct the face using loomis

time to shill myself :)))))

>>4188785

>>4188786
god i wanna shove my face between those saggy tits as she crushes my penis with her thunder thighs and makes fun of me for cumming too early as she's on her phone looking at pics of chad and bbc

>>4188792
Gay

>>4188792
>shove my face between those saggy tits as she crushes my penis with her thunder thighs and makes fun of me for cumming too early
Based and redpilled

>on her phone looking at pics of chad and bbc
Cringe and cuckpilled.

>>4188887
I second this, cucks pls go.

>Still can't coom to my own art
What a dreadful feeling

Does anyone know how to achieve this kind of shading using half tones on CSP? Whenever I try the result is overall terrible so pretty sure I'm doing something very wrong.

>>4186436
>>4186442
>>4186453
anon! Oh my gosh I ccan't belive I missed this for so long! Yay! New batch! I'm glad you took the breaks anon, even though you may feel like you've regressed you have to remeber that practicing slowly over time helps implement knowledge stronger along with making you more comfortable - I actually think this batch is even stronger than the last! The facial expressions are much cleaner! It's also very pretty~
Watching your progress over time has been so much fun! But we've made the halfway point anon - we have to keep going! Even if I am a bit late to reply I'll always be stalking /asg/ for you! As always you go above and beyond anon! I'm forever rooting for you! ＼＼\(۶•̀ᴗ•́)۶////

>>4189026
I thought japs are the one making fucked up shit?

>>4187172
Very soulful. Looks exactly like my art except like 5% better because I can't draw faces and neat hair, but the rest, we're on point.

>>4186974
Cute Aqua.

>>4189041
Not him, but I think it's just a kor scanlation.

>>4188425
>>4188588
While it's something you can practice specifically, speed just has a lot to do with experience - you'll get faster as you have a better idea of what you're doing.
Draw some faces from imagination in between your studies and see what you've learned. New knowledge sticks better in your brain if you're forced to apply it.

Does CSP has addons made for it like Photoshop?
I find CSP lacking on the image effects/post processing sides of things and exporting to photoship is very annoying if you can't do it per layers.

>>4189302
I've heard that the Japanese version have some kind of SDK that allows users to develop plugins, but I can't find any info on it

how is the proportions here? they all feel wrong to me but I cant get why.

it is suppose to be the same character but in different styles.

how is the proportions here? they all feel wrong to me but I cant get why.

it is suppose to be the same character but in different styles.

>>4189671
where the fuck did you get this? thats garbage

>>4189682
>where the fuck did you get this?
I drew it

>thats garbage
It really is, I just want to know why

>>4189671
okay i suppose you were going for chibi -> normal from left to right. stylization requires you to have some visual library of human proportions first. looking at the "normal" stage i can tell you dont have one yet, the drawings are very stiff and flat. the exercise you attempted is actually hard, it requires multiple skills. i understand its challenging and interesting and i command your sentiment but you wont learn anything from it yet, many exercises do require some basic knowledge. for now i suggest you focus on studying refs and then trying to draw what you remember from imagination. dont get me wrong, you dont have to drop the anime stylization, choose whatever style you like, but it should come as secondary, studying proportions comes first.

>>4189671
When going for a chibi style, you need to place the eyes lower on the face - it's not enough to give the character a smaller body, you have to change the facial proportions as well or it starts looking more like a mature dwarf woman.
Watch the placement of the mouth also, it should be about halfway between nose and chin, some of yours have ended up too low on the face.

Generally, there are a lot of issues in terms of anatomy, but if you need something to start check out how arms connect to the torso, the way you're drawing it is hella wrong.
Practice some hands also - they're pretty much the second most important thing after the face.

>>4189703
>>4189718
Great! Now I have a idea what I need to do next, thank you both!!

>>4189768
Based, I wish more people were like you anon. I bet you'll make it

I hope everyone here knows exactly what type of vision you have. I just remembered the guy that had some color blindness and sometimes I feel like some of you have astigmatism. Basically I'm saying your eyes can see shapes wrong by default, like circles are slight oval and colors wrong.

>>4187564
I will thank you anon for the critieque and the advice.

I'm currently dong a bit of loomis atm, but will get to proko next.


Thanks for inspiring me to gring

I don't really know if it's worth posting this. But I'm just having trouble with the shoulders in this. I realize how fucked up it is, so whatever. It's suppose to have clothes on it but I'm not exactly 100% settled with the sketch.

Not sure. But I think the ribcage is somewhat disconnected from the lower body. So everything over the boobs looks off place.

>>4189964
the neck is not centered on the ribcage, it should be farther up and to the left. her left arm seems to be too far back as well

>>4190009
>>4190019
Eh, I think I ruined it. Looks like dogshit. I don't think I'm cut out for imagination/fun drawing yet. I'll go back and grind myself to tears.

>>4190131
uhhhh

>>4190201
yeah, its fucked up. whats the arrow pointing at exactly?

>>4190208
your shit drawingneck

>>4190212
figured, i thought it was pointing at the hair braid for a moment. necks/shoulders are incredibly hard for me. they shouldn't be, it seems almost elementary. but like i said i'll stop with the fun drawing and go back to grinding.

>>4181257
how am i doing and is this face appealing. i always have a problem drawing hair with this face and always think its not anime enough and thats why it doesn't stick

how am i doing and is this face appealing. i always have a problem drawing hair with this face and always think its not anime enough and thats why it doesn't stick

>>4190255
Are you using a reference? I'd say for a beginner you're on the right track. Just don't draw boobs as straight circles, remember they're like waterballoons. The raised arm is def. an issue, but I'm not sure if you're using a reference.

>>4190255
unironically back to /beg/

>>4190255
mtf caillou

>>4190262
i'm using a book for the body and learning eyes and body for it.
>>4190283
kek

>>4190294
get a reference of a woman raising her arm, analyze it and go back to your picture. youre drawing something you don't know

>>4190271
pyw

>>4190311
not relevant but ok

>>4190304
will do but is the hair ok and face good enough for anime?

>>4190315
Bruh.....

>>4190317
>good enough
well its the most simple face and style you could draw, shouldn't you aim higher anon

>>4190317
it's serviceable but always try to push it

>>4190317
its really bad i dont know why are people trying to tell you " its not that bad but"

>>4190324
hey if you got any eye style that nicer and won't give me brain damage trying to learn shoot

>>4190337
becuase it's not. the face is alright.

>>4190337
its not "really bad", its just so minimal that there isn't anything to criticize. its a good little cartoon face
>>4190342
there are infinite eye styles just look at references and copy ones you like

>>4190337
i mean, it's not perfect. the eyes are a bit lopsided, can be improved. but it's a fuckin' anime face. not much you can do.

>>4190344
>>4190345
>>4190348
sometimes i wonder if this whole sugar coating is real or its just used as a meme to keep begs from improving

anyways if you are reading this >>4190255, your face look almost like a wojak the features all over the place it seems to me that you are just guessing and you actually dont know how to draw each part of the face, theres a huge difference between knowing something and just copying.

in the ref this picture its actually what would you call not perfect but okay, the jaw is round in one side, but it keeps the proportions okay i mean how hard is to mirror one side of the face i dont mean using the mirror tool btw

>>4190391
god I get so autistic when I try to draw front facing.. trying to get the jaw perfectly symmetrical.

>>4190391
did you even read his Post.

>>4190405
retard

>>4190397
so when do you plan to start improving

>>4190420
WTF NOOOOOO! YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE MEAN
JUST TELL HIM HE'S GOOD ASK FOR HIS BLOG SUCK HER COCK ARGGGHGHHDGFHGF

DISCORD BROS TELL HIM HE'S JUST A FUCKING CRAB!!!
PYW!

>>4190420
I'm trying but the stagnation is real
>>4184882
pretty good desu

>>4190451
When did you start drawing, my man? I definitely see improvement since those old wonky anime faces.

>>4190397
I love you so much anon.

How do I improve myself like this?

>>4190431
Go back.

>>4190498
>January
soul
>December
soulless

>>4190498
You have to love the waifu to the point of having 10 full drawings under the hood per week just so you can reach a certain level for the hair.

>>4190337
Because this board is turning into reddit with saying how good peoples shit art is

>>4190508
everyone here is eager to shit on everyone else, what are you talking about. maybe if you know how reddit acts so well you should stay there

>>4190498
This is as simple as drawing your waifu every month with /a/.

>>4190498
Everything... is clear now. It's time I stopped being weak.

>>4190498
I don’t have the autism to draw my waifu every fucking day

>>4190553
I thought it was every other month.

>>4190568
It is, but I've eventually learned you should practice on that off month too.

>>4190498
My question is how did he jump from fucking June to December? What the hell did he do? I draw my waifu everyday and I'm not improve as fast as him.

>>4190508
You, know instead of shitting on people for being bad (a fact they probably already know) why don't you tell them their pictures wrong in a nice manner? As long your tone is respectfully, and easy going they'll understand. Shitting on people doesn't help anyone, just drives people away.

>>4190591
NEET NO NATSU

>>4190596
This. This board would be better if people actually gave feedback. Honestly if we were good we wouldn't be here.

Ok I've a confession to make I tried to ink by following Hyaan Natsu's sensivity levels and I felt horrible as I just couldn't get those line right gven I'm dislxic...and I dreaded inking so much..

....But now I discovred that just by raising the line smoothing settting way up I discovered this isn't as hard, and I'm actually having fun.

I downloaded everything off yamamoto souichirou's twitter and I'm going to study them

>>4190621
Wow such nice lines. Good luck.

I got the eyes wrong as always. But what else should I correct before moving forward? Thanks.

>>4186959
Not really shaded but I wanted to pick out some colors

>>4181398
link not work

also why are red lines better than black lines or blue lines or other colours?

>>4190621
u cant skip realism anon you just cant

How do you all improve your visual library? I feel like I'm at least /int/ on everything else, but i draw blanks when coming up with new poses.

>>4190901
By drawing shit that isn’t anime girls all day

>>4190904
But i don't draw anime girls all day, anon.

>>4190861
Crab advice.
Don’t listen to this dude you can study anime for the sake of being able to draw cute animu faces but always have that feeling of realism in the back of your mind.

>>4190905
Draw random shit from life, see a tv in your living room? Draw it from multiple angles, see a chair in your kitchen? Draw it from multiple angles ect, you get the idea that the only way to improve your visual library is by drawing it and observing it. You can also just watch interesting films to get new ideas flowing in your head or reading a book and using your imagination to construct the scene and try to implement it your original works.

I only want to draw anime girls.

>>4190498
a true dedication to your waifu

>>4190568
yes its every 2 months, last was in 10.10 i think
get in the next one anon, there is never enough paintfus

>>4190669
Didn't mean to but I touched it again. Done messing with this now

>>4190641
thanks

>>4190861
maybe you're right but I'll try anyways

>>4190621
so you saved 1.8k photos all manually. Shit. If you did that... idk. But is there any way to fast save a large amount of drawings at once or no.

>>4191019
Iirc, you can find a plugin or software to automatically download all the photos from person’s twitter feed

>>4191019
There's a plugin for mass downloading a twitter user's posts

>>4191016
gmi

>>4190217
>it seems almost elementary
It's not anon, shoulders are arguably the most difficult part of the body to draw/3D model due to their anatomy complexity.

>>4190663
I think forearm's slightly too long

>>4191025
>>4191026
Would it be this one?

>>4191030
I don’t really know, it’s been years since I used one, and really I only used it to download like 10k worth of anime coomer trash

>>4191030
Yeah I think that's the one. I'm not at my pc at the moment so i cant verify the plugin I use.

>>4191042
holy shit, it's just ive been manually downloading these pictures one by one of artists that I admire, this is like a revelation to me. FML

>>4191030
You can use JDownloader2 to bulk download stuff from Twitter's media tab (and a ton of other sites).

>>4191042
>>4191030
iirc it has the option to save only images, gifs or videos and you can specify which date of post to start downloading

>>4191043
been doing the same shit before I found this plugin too lol

>>4191046
yeah, im sure it's this one then

>>4191049
yeah this has to be known more of so that it could possibly help others going through the same problem ;-;. All that time wasted ..

>>4181257
help please
>>4191227

>>4191230
It reminds me of that brush called "OILS!!!" or something, with a kaomoji-like cloud icon. You should be able to find it if you sort from most to least downloaded, tweak as you like it

>>4186989
I see, thank you anon. I certainly have a lot to work on regarding hands and feet.

>>4190663
Not a bad drawing, but it seems to get worse the further down you got. Either you really need to study bodies more and not just portraits, or you got lazy partway through drawing this.

Eyes aren't actually that bad, a big part of what makes her face look so weird is that the chin and nose don't line up. I'm not too keen on the shape of the mouth either, the corners look especially odd. I suggest doing some studies of smiles, both stylized and from photos.

Watch the proportion of the fingers, middle finger should be longest or you need to indicate that it is more bent than the others.

Clothing folds on the pants look pretty unappealing and the seam shouldn't suddenly go behind her leg but continue to go down the side of it.
How do the pants close? If you draw in details like seams you gotta include that too.

>>4191230
You got the right answer in the second post, fuck off

>>4190621
based

>>4191465
Nice. Thank you for the analysis and well detailed response. Will try to go over them

>volunteering at a daycare playing with little kids
>sit down with a boy to draw
>he says he likes anime, likes drawing anime
>tell him I dabble
>he asks me to show him
>flex my loomis and hampton knowledge
>draw probably the worst face I ever have, was nervous drawing in front of a fucking 8 year old
>still he's absolutely astounded
>WOW ANON THAT LOOKS LIKE REAL ANIME HOW DID YOU DO THAT YOURE A LEGEND YOU HAVE TO TEACH ME
>actually attempt to teach a toddle the ball and plane method and gesture drawing before having to leave
heh, see you on the other side losers

how do i draw anime head and not have it look cringe

>>4191028
Thats nice to know. I felt really stupid for not knowing them well. Thanks anon

trying chibi. what can i do to make it less generic so that i wont get accused of taking someone's style?

>>4191971
1. git
2. gud

>>4191996
Don't worry about looking generic. Looking generic is better than looking terrible.

In your case, I think you should tone way down on the line variance. For the eyes, it's ok, but for the rest you should focus more on making thinner lines, like what you did for the nose, mouth, and chin.

>>4192028
yes sir
anything else

>>4190397
This is incredibly late in the thread but you are hatching without respect to tone. All your hatching is the same density and the result is extremely flat. You can fix this by starting with just two densities of hatching - select an area which you aim to be "dark" and hatch this very densely, then select anything else and hatch this sparsely.
With practice, you can change it to a dark region, a medium hatch, and a sparse hatch, then move on to figuring out more granular or graduated hatches.

I'm thinking I might be getting worse at drawing.

>>4192557
The only people I know who regressed got stuck in their comfort zone and don't put as much effort as they should

>>4191867
not gonna lie Anon that is fucking amazing and I am jealous!

>>4191867
>>4191867
not anime but
>did vilppu over the summer
>forget everything
>in art class drawing hands
>it's shit
>teacher tells me to feel it
>remember everything vilppu taught
>best hand drawings ever instantly

happened a few years ago

>>4190201
>>4190208
The torso is too arched forward, so its implied in the red drawing on the bottom to be really odd if you viewed it from the side. That anon could have been less autistic and elaborated their redline properly. I suggest you study not only the neck and shoulders, but how it all connects to the torso as well. Your proportions still look a bit too dollish/mannequin like.

Ideally you want something more like pic related.

>>4181961
That guy is a psycho and most likely has some kind of mental illness.

>>4190460
Doodled a bit on high school(mostly DBZ) but stopped 2016 because work and uni, came back thia year after seeing some anons here and decided to get serious , Its been 3 months already
>>4192085
I get what you're saying, gonna try improve the hatching (i cant Paint for shit,
i Just trhow diagonal Lines and call it values)i feell like my stuff is too boring and bland, maybe this can Help, thanks for the feedback anon

>>4190498
This has to be made by some kind of jp troll.
Theres no way this guy improved that much in just 1 year. Those pictures are probaly collected from a span of an entire decade of drawing and just arranged in this manner to get ez (you)s.

>>4192814
>not aware of larp and posting on this website

>>4192854
>he thinks gainsgoblin is larping
kys newfag. He's been at this for almost half a decade.

>>4192859
It's obvious he's larping you naive /beg/ mongrel, it's visible he's legitimately good judging by his stroke and purposely pushed out horseface to imitate Western fujoshi crap.

>>4192859
Check 3LAMESTUDIO if you're unaware of this kind of larp being possible, they're seriously dedicated.

>>4192843
I believe it, I'll get called a crab but it's not even that good by December, definitely a huge improvement but nothing special

>>4192807
>>4192870
I bet you think Chris Chan is a larp as well, you idiot r.eddit tourist

>>4192876
"dedication" or not, anyone that puts that much time and energy into a being "ironic" is a certified nutjob

Any recommendations on head tutorials?

>>4192920

>>4192903
Keep projecting, though I admit I newly transferred to this shit board few months ago after 10 years on /e/. Apart from 3-10 posters, /asg/ is a seething talentless beginner cave and a waste of time. Think about why it's a desert given the amount of decent anime drawings thorough 4ch, nobody with respect for themselves comes here. Being on /ic/ for over 5 years and still going to /asg/ you must be a self conscious crab who simply doesn't have it and won't accept that. Loosely studying anime for a few months with only ~20 hours of head and hair study grind I've already surpassed all but like 3-4 posters in those threads, something anyone here could achieve if they stopped wasting time on this board arguing over tablet brands or shitting on sakimichan for the 473837th time.

If you wish to succeed then the first step is to leave this fucking thread, then leave this fucking board. I'm making it and found that surrounding myself with people of this mentality is the biggest cripple I need to leave behind. So if YOU, not (You), who is reading it, are one of the "sane" ones and not corrupted by this mentality, get out and surround yourself with professional artists, OCRing Japanese tutorials and books and actual criticism with no jealousy included. And go, study and make it, this is not a place for you to be. You know all you need to know, so go and make it like I do, leaving this trash board after gathering all artbook and videos I'll ever need (which is only a few).

>>4192938
this is bait right

>>4192938
Nigga im not reading all that shit.

>>4192938
I like you anon. I'll follow your advice.

>>4192807
Thanks for this post. Really helped! I'll do what you said.. But what do you mean by the proportions are too dollish/mannequin?

>>4192843
It's doable if you go to an asian art school. I saw a similar one made by a korean in one year

>>4192938
>and yet he chose to stay in this board lel

>>4192036
will do, thanks anon!

>>4192938
>I'm making it
Unironically pyw. Your advice is sound but I keep thinking back to DeviantArt "progression"

That was cringe

>>4193273
you said it

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