/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

didn't you make this thread already?

The problem is they always teach you ideal scenarios and say "see how easy it is? Now you just have to apply it to more complex forms!!", but the first example you try on your own already has some exception that is too complex for that stage of the lesson, so you're forced to keep drawing cubes and any motivation from learning something goes away and all that remains is the broken illusion of the lesson.

Took me 4 different perspective books to understand, for instance, that you have to choose carefully where you place your vanishing points to avoid distortion - CONE OF VISION, MOTHERFUCKERS, HOW ABOUT YOU MENTION THAT STUFF BEFORE TELLING ME TO MAKE MY OWN VPS AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH

>>4176979
This shit is a dead trade
Perspective to this degree used to be important for technical drawing like architecture, product design, interior design

but it's all done 3d now, all this information is completely useless, it is both faster and more effective to just do it 3d.
If you want to make pretty art, don't bother learning anything more than a basic understanding of vanishing points.
and if you want to be an architect, learn to do 3d

>>4176979
Takes time for the brain to process information

>>4176987
>>4176988
yeah I agree, I don't think we need to be overly calculating about perspective, I honestly just want to be able to do urban sketching better. But since I don't know my direction so I will have to suck this entire series up and pick the right lesson to practice on.
Each lesson is like 6 hours long and there are 16 of them, just kill me.

>>4176999
Just sketch the city. Your eye will get trained in perspwctive alone. No need to kill yourself

>>4176979
What does this guys actual art look like? When I google him another artist pops up and the only thing related to him is his course.

>>4177004
I found his facebook with his art inside.
just look up ErikOlsonArt

>>4177001
Going by feeling will take way more than going by feeling AFTER watching 60+ hours of tutorials.

At least he'll know what are his shortcomings and, if he needs to, he can go back to a lesson and learn to calculate stuff.

>>4177004

>>4176979
calculus is for babies. Call me when you find the Differential Geometry of art

>>4176979
learn gesture ffs
stop jerking off to shit that won't make you better

>>4176987
isometric perspective isnt needed, not sure what course youre looking at there...
if your vps are too close it looks weird, yeah. either put a sheet of paper behind and extend your hl onto that so you can put the vp further out, or try to get used to eyeballing it.
too many straight lines can look weird too though.

>>4176979

I literally can't do algebra but I can always find the cone of vision. It's waaaay easier than you think. Just learn and Practice. It's a little weird at first but it's really not hard.

>>4176979
>>4177060


Just get this book, this guy is a great teacher.

>>4177059
>isometric perspective

>>4177035
you dont have a degree in math.

>>4176979
If you want to be super accurate with perspective just use grease pencil.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFXwG-l9F0I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZt6r8xJhQM

>>4177266
I used Blender and I never knew grease pencil is so interesting. I thought it was a meme and never used it. wtf.

>>4176979

Guys, how much does these lectures cost (from Erik on perspective)?
Are they much better than, for example Vandruff's lessons?

>>4177074
it's that perspective used in 2d games to make them look simil-3d, I think

>>4177291
>I thought it was a meme
In the past year it seems the devs are taking it more seriously since everyone sees it as a key part of storyboarding and getting down ideas quickly.
latest talk at today's blender conference said they are dedicated to adding more tools and better integration in an animation pipeline.

>>4177322

you can draw in 3d. its pretty cool.
each line you draw can be converted to 3d also

2d in 3d: https://youtu.be/cXgltIHNg8A

covert to 3d: https://youtu.be/3UBL_AFvyog

>>4177074
>>4177309
using angles, yes. did tech drawing and we had triangle rulers with each side set to a specific angle. its what you use if youre taking schematics and translating it into a rendered image of the object.
ive never seen anyone mention 60,90,120 angles in 1/2/3 point perspective before.

>>4177309
>>4177345
I know what isometric perspective is, I'm just trying to understand why anon quoted me saying "not sure what course yo'ure taking" when I never mentioned it in the first place.