/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

last thread was helpful overall. lets keep the learning spirit going.

>>4165825
yes sir

What does atari mean? Stick figure?

today's attempt

realized right as i was doing the last one that i needed to flatten the sphere on the side more, cause i felt like i always had to go so far to reach the ear

kinda lost on how i can make the cheek/jaw look correct

>>4165883
forgot img

>>4165874
i would also like to know... stick figure makes sense, because i've been seeing it used in a very rough sketch context

>>4165885
>>4165883

It's a lot better, anon! Good job on that. Here's a few things I can still point out:

-The point of the chins are too forward, it should meet your guideline

-Your facial features are placed a bit too high, or are too spaced off each other.

-Your eyes have improved a lot, but the outlines don't look like they could contain the pupils.

Try to look into this tutorial -> https://ichi-up.net/2017/054 for the eyes. it's in japanese but the guide is easy to follow.

>>4165967
I'll have a look at that tonight, thanks

Do you have a discord or something? It'd be easier than us having to check this thread all the time, but if you don't wanna be bothered like that it's cool

>>4166303
Needs more Loomis

>>4166406

>>4165885
side plane is getting better. just need to work on consistency though.
also start trying to draw the neck/ shoulders. don't want to get into that trap where you can draw a head but can't connect it to a body; I hear about that alot and i actually had that problem too!

>>4165885
maybe angle the line from the ear to chin more? or keep it smooth like the bottom right head.

>>4166511
I don't speak Ukrainian.

>>4166325

GAL#3832
I might not be able to answer very quickly all the time since I'm studying, but feel free to ask anything.

Practiced with coloring

new anime study

>>4167185
shoulders/torso is way too wide and bulky, unless that's what you intended it makes her look masculine

look at the shape of the gap between her chin, hand, shoulder in the reference

>>4166958
Angle of the lower legs is really messed up, but the rest is nice

>>4167185
That is not an appealing reference at all.

How do you guys like to shape your eyes? Pic related is mine. Recently i've been making them really long

are these threads worth posting to

>>4167675
Nice and clean lines, anon. I like it

>>4167680
>nice and clean
nice and clean

>>4167675
I like slanted and rounded eyes. But I wish to change them a bit to include eyelashes...

Yours is really cute anon, I can't wait to see her rendered

>>4167709
Thanks anon. It's gonna be a fully rendered illustration.

I like your art a lot! I think one thing that helps me with eyelashes is drawing it's Silhouette first

>>4167679
you specifically? no

>>4166107
more jeannes

>>4168482
You've been drawing too many 3/4 head angles anon, every face in these except for the top left and bottom right are quite bad. Not to imply the remaining two are that good either.
On the other hand it's good how you're tackling angles other than the 3/4 face shit. get out of your comfort zone more often and you're setting yourself on a good path.

>>4167441
Gotcha. Yeah I think i really messed up around there

>study loomis for some time
>now can't draw chinese cartoon faces
what the fuck man, I thought it was supposed to help me improve ;-;

>>4169237
It does

Ok, can anyone comment about the way I draw eyes? Is it appealing or is it weird?

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnGbVq-RdimamGnNZFCOyEw

Might be useful for anyone who knows Japanese, though it's more about the industry than techniques.

>>4166958
>>4169077
Lmaoing at your faces

>>4169327
Damn, I see my fave artist in there. I should do more reps

>>4169332
Well.. glad I could make you laugh

>>4169411
The pose and her clothes look very cute. I feel like your style could use bigger eyes, this one looks ok but the rest are kinda off-putting.

thoughts?

>>4169697
big head

>>4169697

>>4169697
GMI

>>4169697
you need to draw more

>>4169697

always get the feeling i should just stop trying to draw what i want go back to grinding boring shit because im just not ready yet. not very good at eye placement, headshape is weird, hair lopsided
fucking hell

>>4169411
Noticed that the head should be way bigger
>>4169452
I think bigger eyes would make my life easier but it would be against the style I'm trying to learn

>>4170029
Every drawing is practice.

>>4169697
Where do you work out?

i was about to post but these threads arent worth posting to

>>4170166
it's alright bb

>>4170166
Just go into /alt/ or /beg/

>>4170166
do it faggot

>>4169697

>>4170087
Minaba Hideo's style?

>>4165804
are the pictures in the op are from the same artist? If not, is there a blog for the pic in the bottom right corner?

>>4167719
Thank you anon! I will definitely try it.

>>4170166
Okay

>>4165804
PLLEASEE SENPAII CAN i have THE BLOGS TO THE PICS IN THE OP??

Can someone fix this face plz k thx.

>>4170986
Reference is young casca from beserk.

>>4170987
Her face looks a little wide, the eyebrows are thicker and her eyes rounder.

>>4170987
The eye shape is completely different. Try to make them more droopy. Her nose is also longer, chin better defined, face more narrow like other anon has mentioned

>>4170527
>>4170865
It's one artist: https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/61913685

How did you guys get better at hair/hairstyles?
I'm copying from a bunch of different references, but every artist and character has such a wildly different style that it feels new every time.
Any common tips? Focus on one style at a time?

>>4167709
>that filename
is that Sukone Tei? are you into UTAU anon?

Sketches from last night. I don't typically draw in an anime style, I aim more for a Western comic/manga mix but it usually looks more like anime

>>4165804
Sauce of the guy crying while eating sushi?

>>4169301
I'm assuming you mean the shape not the octopus pupils? The heavy lives on top that almost meet in the center of the face don't look good. They look like they're forming a unibrow

>>4171243
Cute rainbow hair

>>4171259
It's her anon! I'm really glad if she's similar at all. I listen to a lot of older Vocaloid (and UTAU) songs recently and realised I really like Tei, especially since she's "ours". I also really like drawing Miku because of her twintails.

>>4171243
Thanks anon

>>4171243
Thanks, really helpful!

>>4171268
Here: >>4171167

yeah yeah my anatomy is shit I need loomis I know, I swear I'm working on it.... but can some please help with my linequality.

My lines always look like shit I even used a G pen but I have no idea why they still look off.

>>4171327
your issue is that you aren't drawing lines, you're still sketching because you aren't confident in where they should be.

>>4171333

that's true...Thank you anon.

>>4171327
soul

>>4171263
stop abusing meme textures and gradients/soft brush. focus on shape design with just black pen and background.

>>4169697
this was taken directly from orange road. i just wanted to see what u guys would say since you're all experts lol

>>4169697
many

>>4171355
It was black and white until I changed the BG and face values. Gradients were thrown in last minute for fun, this is just practice afterall. What do I need to improve on as far as shape design is concerned?

>>4171263
This is my only other anime-ish picture I have saved that I've drawn, crit pls?

>>4171373
how hard do u want us to suck your dick?

>>4171384
I don't, I want you guys to rip it apart so I can get better

>>4169077
some slight suggestions.

>>4171360
lel

>>4171327
Can I redraw the face?

Just finished this work. I been trying to draw more creatively rather than drawing/copy from references, only using anothers work for design purposes.

>>4171404
And this is my reference

>>4171327
line quality p much comes down 2 practice

if you want resources with good exercises for it, u can try drawabox lesson 1

there's also peter han dynamic sketching but I haven't watched that one before

>>4171283
I would love to see more synth characters from you! There's not a lot of art for lesser knowns and your wip looks pretty solid

>>4171167
THANK YOU SO MUCH ANON!

>>4171327
this is all you get
this has potential to be cute

you might wanna shift the broom a bit lower and bit more forward as well. i forgot to do it in the crit but thats one thing that could make this work even better

>>4171450
the broom is coming out of her ass anon

>>4171404
>tomboys are best
>gives model huge tits where there were none
nigger what are you doing

>>4171453
Imagine if that was poop with hay sticking out of it. haha

>>4171467

>>4171453
i know, i didn't bother with fixing it once i posted it. You'd just have to shift it a bit lower and tilt it a bit downwards

>>4171327
have you tried actually trying to make them smoother? Or how about redrawing the lines on a 2nd clean lineart layer whilst having the old lines faded out

>>4171459
Are they that big? I figured that size was more average than anything big. Anyways I do need to learn how to draw a more flat chested girl to get the look right so onto some tutorial video I go.

>>4171404
>>4171406
Go back to copying

>>4171551
Maybe not big for an anime gril but they're definitely big, especially for what's supposed to be a tomboy

>>4171397
sure

>>4171450
>>4171450
Woah that looks amazing. Thank you anon. Just by looking at your art I learned thank you

>>4171450
This style sure seems familiar.

>>4171407
thanks! I will check it out
>>4171490
I just followed your advice and redid the lines from scratch.

I think it looks less horrible. Gotta practice some more

>>4171674
and yeah I am the one that requested help just o be clear. That's amazing anon you inspire me t improve. thank you!
>>4171450

>>4171406
>>4171404
It's a nice approach but you gotta work on your anatomy too

>>4166303
Dick fused to body/10

>>4171167
I wish he still makes porn

>>4171360
I don't think you know how heads/hair work.

How do I become /gmi/?

>>4171360
Not sure what you're trying to prove. Most old manga is a real hit-and-miss in terms of technical fidelity (though that applies to most manga these days too).
But your picture is not as wonky as you might think.

>>4171360
I have to say I don't know the manga nor the mangaka, but the clavicles (and the torso perspective) are a big red flag. I don't know what was the intention of the author.

>>4171959
It's all about hard work and expanding your horizons, anon. In my opinion hard work comes first and then the will to experience and try out new things with an open mind. That's the traits I've noticed in people who are seriously good, and since I'm trying very hard to adapt it, I improve much faster. Fight with your comfort zone, be able to second-guess yourself, doubtful is good as long as it doesn't cripple you. Expect a lot from yourself. Severely limit the time spent on watching TV, playing games, social media etc. Don't be jealous of others' progress, realise it's because they worked harder and you can most probably catch up. People who started to draw in their 20s or so, spend like 8 hours a day to catch up to people who have been drawing since they were kids. Always be thankful for any advice, be humble and always look for mistakes and don't avoid things which are difficult for you. It's a lot about the mindset, with a wrong mindset, no amount of grinding will take you out of that stage which is above beginner but below professional, where many people (mostly YouTubers who are constantly praised) are stuck in for years. Try to enjoy drawing even if it seems like constant grind and try hard to keep your focus so you aren't drawing automatically. I still haven't made it, but since I changed my mindset and began to doubt my ways, I improved more in a year than I have in ~4 years. The truth is the great majority of artists are, or used to be "crabs", and leaving it behind is the first step to /gmi/, perhaps you are behind this step already anon. Then what's left is hard work and constantly analysing your mistakes, looking for new ways to do things, out of comfort zone. Good luck anon

Need the opinion of some expert in anatomy for this wip, is the left shoulder wrong or something ? Ref was https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/anarchyreigns/images/5/57/Anarchy_Reigns_-_Bayonetta.png/revision/latest?cb=20130126000323

>>4172006
>I have to say I don't know the manga nor the mangaka
Kimagure Orange Road is from before the Dark Age of Technology. This might've been something that one would have had on VHS in the earliest days.

>>4172099
Hold your arm in that pose, the shoulder should be much more rotated toward the back not the front of the torso and her left foot is kind of fucky

Not a jeanne this time.
Can any anon help me on how to go from grayscale to color?
I tried to use gradient maps/color balance and overlay layer, but it still looks muddy and dull.
I'm using csp.

>>4172621
send help

>>4170520
Yeah
>>4171394
Cool thanks! I appreciate the suggestions.

>>4172621
bruh before you go any further you need to fix that hand on her hip. it's shrunken, even without comparing it to her other hand.

>>4172658
you're right, I'll resize it. thanks buddy

>>4172624
you've already done gradient map, color balance, and now an overlay. those are the main steps. you have hardly any contrast in the greyscale so the gradient map would hardly help as the colors will all be from a small part of the spectrum. adjust the contrast to be more extreme and you may have better luck. you can try instead using a color layer to place the local colors as a starting point. greyscale also requires you knowing what the local value of color is. prime example is the blonde hair, if you wanted that you would have painted the hair much lighter in greyscale. just like you wouldn't paint a white material with a grey level of 20 unless it was in deep shadow.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHBRt8KBu8Q&t=39s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIjCfcJn9XQ

greyscale to color used to be really popular but it ends up in your work looking incredibly dead from the lack of hue variation in a piece. greyscale is good as a study to work out the composition and then get basic ideas blocked in but the sooner you get to direct color the better. greyscale to color is like a wives' tale for painting today, really not a better or easier way. better off using direct color once you're capable. in general anime style it's more useful to work with flats and save rendering for the end.

you should work on your shape design instead of shitty soft brush everywhere. i know what you're trying to do with the adductor pack of muscles but her left leg looks misshaped with the indentation happening directly opposite on that leg. you've got weird pillow shading going on and contradictory lights, it's hard to tell what the light source is and makes the image look like a mess. simplify your values and shapes. you didn't work out any of those problems in greyscale. a shitty greyscale is going to look shitty in color.

>>4166958
You should fix the left boot, it looks like her feet is twisted in a very weird way since the bottom is not defined enough

>>4172624
30 minutes and this is what I'd push it towards. This design looks interesting, so I'd like to see how you take this

>>4172673
Also, you might wanna think about rdeoing some parts of the design. The armor could use a bit of a work in terms of shapes and I don't know what her weapon is supposed to be so you might want to start defining it more or change it entirely.

>>4172713
Thanks for the help anon, I appreciate it.
I tried to copy the process used in these videos and apply what I could understand, but because of the language it's difficult to identify the type of layers they are using
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpcnJ1mWH8E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kgg2E3LRPZk
I really dislike doing lineart,
so I'm looking for processes that look more like "painting", since that's what I like the most.
>>4172742
>>4172743
thanks, but it's a loose study
with the main purpose of training colors.
I used a reference image and changed / simplified a lot of the original design, but I want to try what you suggested, changing the design can be a good exercise.

>>4172742
Congratulations on performing breast reduction surgery. Are you proud of yourself, prude?

Mythra from Xenoblade Chronicles 2, by the way.

>>4172775
im so fucking lonely bros

I've never drawn before in my life and the only thing I want to draw is my waifu who is an anime style character. How does an absolute beginner get started

>>4172348
I see. I'm '96 and still have a horrible amount of classics to watch/read, I apologize

>>4172775
Oh my, I had no idea. I was mostly interested in fixing the posing and the overall drawing. I wish I knew it was Mythra, I would've drawn her a bit differently lol

If there's any one thing that gets me demotivated, it's line art.
I can get the sketch down, and I can do one hell of a paint/render job, but I cannot into line art for some reason.
The thickness of the lines, the coloring of the lines so they blend well with your rendering, the steadiness of them.
Especially line art coloring methods. I always feel like my line art is so stiff and 2d over my 3d rendering.

I'm struggling bros.

>>4172820
>that response
Don't make me feel bade for typing it the way I did. Western animu twitter fucks with your brain after a while with all of those """fixes""".

>>4172841
I dislike lineart too as I stated here >>4172763
Try to see the links I posted, which are other processes that don't have a lineart layer.

>>4172763
I understand the look, it ends up looking unfinished a lot of the time unless you really refine it or mind the edges as you go. Constantly reworking areas like that is more annoying to me than linework and I hate digital lineart.

Selection tools and vector layers in CSP were a life changer to me. I started using vector layers and inking is so much easier. You get vector handles you can simplify and manipulate like paths, but with any brush. It also solves the problem of erasing every line that you draw through. Seriously, learn the vector tools they're very easy. I have vector on Y, I moved the vector eraser into the Y menu. Then I just use the eraser, control point, and simplify in that menu. In the control point tool you can hold alt and it removes a point you click on, clicking adds a point. It's like "double cheating" with the selection tools and reference layer but I get so much done now instead of getting pissed off at the tools. Flat with selections or "Do not exceed reference layer" checked.

I ink without pen pressure and with Starting and Ending (toggling on usually one or the other, starting is good to pick up on long lines) so I can focus on the lines. Something like the Real Gpen or Fill-in Mono Pen (Betta pen) with no aliasing on is ideal for texture. If I'm doing hair, I'll turn on ending then erase at intersections. You can always paint over the lineart too but I'm flying through the lining process now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsyNOEaML_I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkLrMGpWayw&t=1h13m16s

>>4172841
see what I posted here if you're using CSP >>4172893

If not, you can do it in a similar way. Ink with no size jitter. Repeat going over lines to make thicker, erase parts to make thinner/show they're in light. It's like using fineliners to get line width by stacking up lines/various marker widths or using whiteout. Make sure you're consistent in the brush sizes you pick. I have a size palette up and I'll usually ink the main lines with something between 4-8 for main lines and slightly smaller for secondary lines.

watch with subs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNWwJji7h2o&t=6m36s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szeqGXp5LFg&t=2m37s

>>4172861
>>4172841
I like to believe it gets better with practice and mileage, and until you're comfortable with the tools of whatever program you're using. I'm on the opposite end of the spectrum. I prefer lineart and flat colors more so I've avoided doing painting and rendering studies for the longest time

>>4172852
mmm, jerks getting flustered by courteous responses is my fetish

>>4172893
Wow, thanks a lot, I didn't expect such a complete answer. I ditched inking a while ago and started coloring directly on the sketch,
erasing and painting over the extra lines as needed. But I'll give the method you said a try, I'll use that drawing as an exercise and make lineart in a vector layer, I will post the result later.

Also, something like pic related is the style I want to achieve, does anyone have any idea what kind of process this guy used? Does he do the inking or it's the "painting" process like in the videos?

yeah I hate lineart too thanks anons

>>4173151
yw

>>4172742
cursed drawing

Important question, does it stop looking like anime if you render ambient occlusion and shadows realistically?

>>4173704
not necessarily, it depends if you put a stylized anime face or if you're going for that midway look of semi realistic yet anime art. just adding ambient occlusion and realistic shadows? nah it's pretty much still anime

I’m ready to get roasted for chicken scratch but I think it’s cute

>>4173925
Oop I’m mobilefag can’t turn it round TT

>>4173927
turn the sheet of paper around nd around until you make a crumbled ball and throw it in the bin

>>4173925
>>4173927
Here ya go pal, all rotated and cleaned up

>>4173981
Don't mind the brush stroke I left in the image accidentally, sorry about that

>>4173981
Thank u!! That must’ve taken a bit of time

>>4173978
Lmfaoo nooo it’s good !!

How do I draw like this?

>>4173988
With your hands.
By practicing.

>>4173015
if I had to guess it'd be something close to this style of speedpaints:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8p5iIdnAoL4

>>4173988
The drawing is probably the easy part. The rendering is something I don't know. Everyone does it differently which is retarded, but whatever fuck you guys.

>>4173988
If you really care, post discord and your artwork and lets get to it because you've got good taste.

>>4173988
>>4174009
Yes it's extremely easy and everyone is holding back information from you, actually I even suggest you leave this place because you got it all figured out: "drawing is probably like super easy, I dunno I never tried, and the rendering, eh, I dunno durr"


None of it's any easy you unsharpened pencil tip! You can't shorten the entire art learning process into a single quick answer for "how do I draw anime woman"?
Why do people even ask this question every couple days? Are you waiting for the secret link to a magic button that instantaneously makes you good?

>>4174021
U sound old or something

>>4174031
And Summer's already over.
Don't you have school tomorrow?

>>4174032
Lol it was the “unsharpened pencil tip part” it’s just a weird thing to say

>>4174034
Honestly too many years trying to nudge unironical small kids on the internet to draw better made me realize 4channers don't step up with hugs and kisses.

>>4173988
I think this is doable in 6 months of tryhard

>>4174039
True everyone’s mean on IC it’s the 4chan way

So if i want to git gud at drawing sexy anime girls the best way to improve would be to copy others said anime girls and try to 'reverse engineer' it. And as for style i am assuming find stuff i like and try to create some sort of synthesis of the stuff i like. I am also going to assume it would be good to try attempt stuff that is beyond my skill level to get out of comfort zone. Is this understanding correct? Is there anything i need to consider if most of it is going to be done on paper since most stuff i am going try to replicate is digital.

>>4174009
Here's how to study a specific artist's rendering.

1-find a piece by [insert target artist here] that has available both the finished rendered piece and a fully clean lineart, and attempt to replicate his rendering while at the same time looking at the finished, rendered version piece. I suggest ataruman, he posts his wips on twitter;
Try to understand what he does, reverse-engineer their work.

2-using a whole different artist's lineart, attempt to replicate [insert target artist here]'s rendering by looking at a group of his finished pieces, understand how he shades skin, different textures for his outfit, etc;

3-using your own lineart, do the same rendering practice as step 2;

4-using your own lineart, attempt at another original piece without any references from his work. If you fail, back to step 3.

I've done this, it works.

>>4174056
Don't forget to practice your fundies

>>4174066
I usually trace the image that I want to copy the rendering of because most of my favorite artists don't post lineart.

why is drawing front view so hard? am i just retarded? should i give up and go back to grinding fundies?

>>4174339
Grind more anime faces.

>>4174339
draw more heads and faces. One doesn't immediately get better with just a few head drawings

>>4174461
ababababababa

Can i get some guidance on why this shit happens, where the hair fades into some muted color, most likely blue? I want to say I understand why, but I really don't

>>4174862
That's ambient light. I could explain how it works, but I'm at work atm.

>>4174875
I figured as such, but fuck, I'm so lost at actually applying it. Thanks anon.

>>4174886
when in doubt, slap some random color dodge on the sides of your character

%%cowboy%%

too lazy to continue, though i'd love to finish a personal piece this month. :(

this is RUSHED SHIT but I've decide to post something somewhere every day so here it is

>>4174339
I'd recommend using exact measurements (basically draw a square and draw methodical Parallel lines going through it)

https://youtu.be/6vrj3sr3oTw

https://youtu.be/svGkeBolFME

>>4174886
Basically the further things fade into the background the more they take on the colour of the sky/backdrop although this is obviously an extreme example.

>>4175218
You're thinking of atmospheric perspective. Ambient lighting is the light coming from objects other than the main lighting, such as reflections or bright colors. The jist is that anything you see is producing light which affects the color of nearby objects.

Hi again Anons, I am back from this thread
>>4133396

Bringing the next ten of the copy/study series of the mad quest I have been doing, currently at 31-40 at this point, out of the 97 the original gif had. Although I have found some duplicates which means some extra pieces will have to be added at the end. I might even miss some duplicates even.

As for my current feelings about learning it, when I was doing Inktober and doing some random anime girl I seriously did have some semi conscious urges to add parts to the face that I normally didn't and came from doing these. It felt weird not gonna lie. But also when I started the whole head I remembered to pay attention to the lower part of the head and make the cheeks larger and longer which I routinely did wrong in the past. I guess that can be considered improvement that has been derived from this mad quest.

Like last time I will post the total progress if the file isn't too large.

>>4175266
current collected progress

>>4175266
...and the soul

Can someone please translate this it looks interesting and useful.

>>4175268
Very nice job, however it would make it less disorienting to look at if you made the resolution larger and spaced the faces out more/

>>4175368
>less disorienting
And why would we want that?

>>4175266
>>4175268
i hope you are understanding how to draw the way he does and not just copying

>>4175344
Fuck, man, jap books are so next level. Here filthy westerners are still learning to design characters with shapes and the fucking japs over there have already moved on to making the pose and camera distortion the shape.

>>4175475
*she

>>4175225
I'm sorry your right actually.

Why do you want to draw little girls so much?

>>4175109
Soul

>>4175954
Because my waifu is a little girl

>>4175266
>>4175268
>>4175269
Yay!! I found you again anon! I'm glad we both made is to /asg/ safely - What a treacherous cross-board journey! These still look so good! I'm glad the mad-quest has started to filter into your own work! Like before, don't rush yourself too hard into the next batch. Slow and steady wins the race - You're reaching the halfway point! I'm rooting for you! ＼＼\(۶•̀ᴗ•́)۶////

>>4176272
your enthusiasm is infectious

>>4175954

>>4176272
how wholesome

>>4176191
>Cagliostro
>Little girl
Pfff you are either making a joke or have no clue of his backstory.

>>4176317
>thinking I wouldn't know
I just feel more insulted than anything

>>4175954
I dont

>>4176272
cringe


>>4176308
>>4176278
faggots

>>4176348
back to facebook and 9gag with you, cute and politeness is justice

>>4176278
I hope that I'm not the only one who thinks that the shading in her eyes looks like a perspective grid.

>this thread has the highest average quality of any thread on /ic/
Really activates the almonds.

>>4176317
She's a girl of little height.

>>4176373
Maybe the Japanese work ethic is rubbing off

>>4175344
I think he's just making an abstract shape and then just using his brain to fill in the gaps.

>>4175344
forgot part 1

>>4176409
>brain
where can i find one of these cheap

>>4176412
Try your local library.

>he refers to art he's working on as a 'piece'

>>4176425
Mine all turn to pieces of shit so he might be on to something.

>>4175368
I had to reduce the size the original file size is too large for the board to post.

>>4175475
I am not sure what exactly do you mean with your question? Are you asking if I can draw an anime face without using a ref? Technically I am copying these pictures, that is kind of the point of this entire mad quest, but I am not tracing them, the original is way smaller resolution.

>>4176272
Thank you anon for being with me from the start!

remove anime from your life or you'll never make it, friends.

except yoshitaka amano, hes alright

>>4176425
"Piece" contains the energy of "I polished this turd for over a month, now I'm done with drawing until 2020" or "I've spent hundreds of hours on this to polish every detail". Just call it a drawing like everyone else

>>4175196
That two oval thing is pretty neat skull construction simplification

>>4176464
I keep seeing folks saying "I'm gonna make it" or "you're never gonna make it", but what is it that they're trying to make exactly?

>>4176509
porn

>>4175344
You're welcome

https://translate.yandex.com/ocr

>>4176732
hitler kun..

>>4176732
>>>/beg/

Which flavor do you go for?

potato

>>4176794
these all look like amateurish shit except kimetsu. hardly anyone renders like those hairs in illustrations

>>4176853
>these all look like amateurish shit except kimetsu.
Kimetsu is the worst-looking one on there. Congrats, you're retarded.

>>4176849
I feel like the boobs would be pointing more downwards from this angle, even she's pulling them up. It looks like they're going into her chest.

>>4176859
It's litterally the only one that has decent shape design. all the other ones have shit shortcutty rendering.

>Congrats, you're retarded.

Your tastes are shit, retard

>>4176911
Is it possible to have shadow without highlights?

>>4176794
Interesting study to do

Any good recommended resources for doing manga style action? I feel like I suck at doing action/speed line stuff.

>>4176911
It's objectively the worst one on that chart. The other ones all have at least some basis for where the light is coming from, but the kimetsu one has no sense or reason. The shadows are just a bunch of blobs placed randomly. It looks like a mosaic of brown, like how actual shit looks. You call it "decent shape design," but that's just an excuse for looking literally like shit. I can fling my shit on a piece of paper and it'll have "decent shape design." Shading without any awareness of light is what /beg/inners do, which I'm sure is what you are by your lack of such awareness.

>>4176794
I dont speak runes. Is there one translated?

I got a question... I'm noticing a lot of artist use a hard round brush to sketch, and I've been using that soft pencil brush of sketchbook pro, and when I ink it's hell becuase it's all fuzzy.


So... I'm guessing most manga artist use hard brushes to sketch right?

>>4177151
in digital art I mean. Looks like I was the only dumbass using a soft pencil brush for sketching right.

>>4165804
New fag going through Loomis right now. Although my end goal is to just be really good all around I'm really craving to draw OC's for anime/manga I watch/read. Should I drop Loomis for now and just grind references over and over again or is Loomis essential for this style?

Also, is there any direct order I should follow after Loomis? The sticky just links dozens of books.

>>4176191
Fixed it up a little bit

>>4176862
Tried to mess with it but wasn't really sure how to go about it and i ended up changing things around it more

I'm getting fed up /asg/. Everytime I do a study I'm all happy and confident. But when I do a fun sketch I'm ok until I start to push/clean it up. Then I notice flurries of mistakes.
>Eyes aren't aligned
>spend an hour trying to get headshape correct
>hair isnt as gesturial, too flat
>this isnt correct
>neither is this
>etc.
>this pose is boring 3/4, do something more exciting
It gets really annoying and burns me out whenever I try to finish something. Maybe I should stop doing imagination stuff and go back to only studying, because it seems like I can't handle it right now. What a bummer.

How do you get clean lines where lines join? How zoomed in are you supoosed to be when doing line work? How much time is reasonable to dedicate to cleanup?

>>4177233
I was just racking my brain about this same thing, at least I'm not alone

>>4172624
Alright, second try, no more greyscale bullshit. This time I did the lineart and the flat colours in another layer using the fill tool, but there's a lot of white spots when I zoom in.

>>4177277
How do I avoid this shit? Already used the area scaling thing

>>4177229
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ko3Zaw8zffk&list=PLd9YlgrhwWqCSiGwPwA_N_nqKfTLY1Kn8&index=1

This guy goes over the basics in a clear step by step way. It'll help a lot to see someone else studying anime. Also, the fact you're recognizing the flaws is a very good sign.

>>4177151
You use a different type of brush for lineart

anybody likes watching livedrawing?
live2.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv322617379

ASIAN

QTs

MAKES MY LIFE WORTH LIVING

>>4177306
Yeah, I've watched this channel before. They're awesome.
>Also, the fact you're recognizing the flaws is a very good sign.
Well, that's re-assuring to hear. Sometimes it's just annoying because I'd like to move on, but I know it looks wrong. Just have to practice more.

Going to be in Japan for a while. What are some good backdrops to use as background reference? Prefer non-touristy stuff.

>>4177306
I can't love /c enough

I have bought courses less that weren't half as helpful as that one.

I'm currently studying part 2

>>4177459
>>4177461
>>4177465
Why can't Women be more like this?

>>4177306
by the way I also have a copy of all those in Mega. I know it's free on yutube...but they are chinese so I fear china will censor them one day.


Heck I don't know how they use youtube given it's blocked there.

>>4177667
maybe go to asia? you filthy weeb, and take your shit stained and smelly clothes with you.

>>4177669
>t.

>>4177668
Taiwan, the biggest weebs.

>>4177668
They're from Taiwan. Don't worry.

>>4177667
Westerners don't deserve nice things.

>>4177459
>>4177461
>>4177465
These aren't anime.

>>4177673
>>4177690
>>4177701
>>4177704
Stop fucking posting

>>4177173
bump

>>4177658
Cute streets and alleyways

>>4177278
You can set the fill tool to fill to the centerline of vector. You could have used the lasso fill because you were dumb and inked with a brush that has no pressure jitter on flow and opacity, and no anti-aliasing. The easiest way to use the tools is with a 100% opacity and density bruah with no anti-aliasing, you can even disable area scaling for exact selections.

>>4165885
Autism

>>4177709
Cure your yellow fever first.

>>4176410
>>4175344
Sekret forbidden nip art techniques?

>>4165804
asg can you help me ID this anime? I need to study it

>>4177835
It may be from a game, I’m not really sure

>>4177747
*inked with a brush that HAS flow and opacity jitter, and anti-aliasing. These are awful for any type of selection in tight quarters. You can use them but then be prepared to do more work with cleanup because area scaling doesn't work anymore.

>>4177459
what's wrong with her ears?

>>4177835
Fate grand order, the picture you posted is actually a fan animation done by this artist/animator

https://twitter.com/XenoXss?s=08

>>4177835
>>4177931

The story arc of Fate/Grand Order which this scene is from (Babylonia), has just received an anime, still currently airing. It's on episode four, the scene has not appeared in the show yet though.

Show is called "Fate/Grand Order: Zettai Majuu Sensen Babylonia"

>>4177915
It's the result of crappy photoshopping.

>>4177931
Thanks!! I have a lot of work to do

I wish the whole anime looked like this

the face is alright ? there's something wrong but i cant put out what's worng

the face is allright ? there's something off but i cant point out what's wrong

>>4178128
>not irisu
Shame. Anyway, the iris isn't supposed to cover half the eyeball. And her neck connects wrongly to her shoulders, maybe.

>>4178128
make sure you flip canvas horizontally sometimes it can help. Also I take a picture with my phone, stand upside down on my chair etc.

>>4178139
sorry, but who's irisu ? i cant remember.
wow, the face is a lot better there, thanks based anon, i can see now where i fucked up
>>4178141
i flip constantly and fix most (i hope )mistakes that way, but faces are my weakest point i think, most of criticism i get here is about the faces.
gonna try the phone thing, thank you

>>4178148
irisu kyouko

>>4176853
>>4177046
Those are styles from different anime(titles are written under). The quality isn't supposed to be comparable to professional artists, just a fun chart.

Anyone know any good video courses on this style? Currently doing Loomis exercises over and over so I could digest them better, but I wanna draw some stuff in anime style what would be a good way to progress? Finish loomis, work on anime stuff that I like while going back to loomis when i'm done, or working on figures and anatomy? Also, would I buy done with fundamentals when I finish Loomis? Would that just mean I just do the style I want(anime and landscape) over and over again then going back and fixing it?

>>4178159
do copies and studies of the artists you want to draw like. it's simple as that. have a discerning and objective eye about your work, what compares well to the original and what doesn't.

>>4178151
my wife

>>4178189
liar

>>4178128
neck looks dislocated senpai

>>4178245
This is cute but not anime. It feels more western like a bratz doll. I think it's the lip and the proportions

>>4178128
her left eye is looking dead at us and it's a circle

>>4178249
>It feels more western like a bratz doll.
It's a Monster High character.

Fuck off that IS anime.

>>4177224

>>4178286
This is still bad, but in another way.

>>4178232
>>4178254
hope i'ts better now, i'ts still flawed but i think it doesn't hurt to look at her face anymore
(btw that phone trick really works, the eyes highlights were in the wrong place)
thanks /asg/chads

>>4178189
prove it

>>4178307
>>4178198
You can't prove she's not, either. Checkmate.

>>4178292
so >>4177224 is still pretty bad huh?

>sit down to do some productive studies or exercises
>end up doing yet another doodle and then coloring it
haha

>>4178286
It looks fine to me. I think the lines need to be cleaner next time

How do you guys darken your lines for inking?

>>4178453
You should continue with studies, you'll have time for doodles eventually

New thread?

>>4178805
no, wait a little longer

>>4178632
By using a darker brush?

>>4178453
You should continue with doodles, you'll have time for studies eventually

>>4178453
You should time with your doodles, you'll have continue for studies eventually

>>4178453
You should time with your eventually, you'll have continue for doodles studies

>>4178632
by inking over that sketch with an inking brush. 100% opacity and flow, no pressure jitter

>>4178765
here's one

>>4165804
anybody know any good tips for drawing eye iris. it bothers me i can't do it

>>4179402
copy them, a lot of the time you'll end up drawing so they'll look good even if they aren't drawn correctly

>>4179276
Nice, big fan of that artist. I study his sketches and for some reason he follows me on twitter

>>4179436
who is the artist?

>>4179445
salkdfjae. It was in the filename.

>>4179445
nyongnyong
>>4179449
idk never heard of him going by that name

>>4179449
can't find anything for nyongnyong, salkdfjae was just me mashing the keyboard to make a filename

>>4179478
pigeoncrow on danbooru

>>4179482
Thanks

I am doing pin2d's ribcage... and I'm ashamed to admit I'm unironically having trouble drawing eggshaped ribcages.

it looks almost like an oval... but not quite. And it's hard to make clear what's in front and whats not

Am I the only one?

.

>>4180145
The rib cage is a bit more complex than that. It has a distinct front plane which makes the orientation a lot more clearer and easier to draw.
Proko have a nice vid on this:
https://www.proko.com/how-to-draw-the-rib-cage-step-by-step/

>>4180262
I know it's a bit more complex, but I'm studying a simplification for drawing.

Not even proko, aka kangoroo fetus man, himslef has memorizd that one

>>4180262
>>4180611
>https://www.proko.com/how-to-draw-the-rib-cage-step-by-step/

Still thank you for sharing I will give it a shot

>>4173925
>not rotated correctly (not even on a 90o)
>2.33 MB, 4032x3024

im not clicking that

>>4180611
It's just about the right complexity for practical construction, though. This IS simplified, as opposed to drawing each individual ribs. If the kangaroo man is too triggering for you, you can see every other figure drawing teacher (vilppu, hampton, etc.) using roughly the same model.
It really isn't that difficult to memorize at all, not sure why you'd be skeptical about that of all things.

>>4180723
Relax I said I would give it a shot and even thanked you for it.

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