/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

I decided to wrap this one. There was a lot more I wanted to do with it, but I really need to get back to doing exercises. I think it's good doing something like this in between the exercises to test what you've internalized. It also helps in getting a new bearing on what to focus more study on.

All in all I'm content. It turned into a nice Blade Runner inspired key frame concept piece. So long, and thanks for all the crits!

>>4158241
Here's the final value and (not so) dynamic symmetry composition check. It's in the ballpark of okay at least...

>>4158204
>>4158170
Yes, but the main problem is that they don't even know that's what they are missing. IF they are complete begs they don't know the basic we take for granted everyone else knows.
I'm not asking to redline beg drawings, I know it's pointless since they won't even understand what to do with that information, but give them a proper guidance on what they should study.

More importantly, this rule would be to curb the practice of begs sending other people to the beginner thread just to feel superior to them.

>>4158197
>Rules only exist if they can be enforced
We have a bunch of unwritten rules around here that the community enforces. Even the "rule" that beginners should post in the beginner thread is policed by the community.

I'm not suggesting we put it as a board rule and that mods ban people sending others to the beg thread, but asking for us to be mindful of this practice and to change how we do it.

recent life drawing

notha one

a sexy robot.

>>4158298
and I'm to stoned to upload properly

Starred myself blind on this one, where does it look funky?

Starred myself blind on this one, where does it look funky?

>>4158241
Great job on the colours and values. Really like the mood.

There's a few anatomical issues but the ones that stands out the most I think are the arms and torso proportions.

Good rule of thumb I use is elbows line up with the navel and wrist area lines up roughly with the greater trochanter.

Head's pretty great. Some minor eye positioning issues but they are withing the margin of human variance. One thing to note is you should try to keep the iris size the same in both eyes.

The sort of body you've done has a very stylised feel to it (old-school Warcraft vibes)whereas the head is pretty realistic so the two clash. I'd say push it all the way in one of the directions.

I did a quick fix towards more realistic proportions but you could easily do the opposite and exaggerate the face more.

>"BECAUSE YOU DON'T LISTEN"

/v/ bullied me for this trash yesterday

>>4158742
So I went back today to fight for her honor

>>4158742
That face is the most off putting

>>4158667
Wow, thank you (Firez I presume?)

Anatomy is a particularly weak spot of mine. I couldn't place the clavicles, for example, so I just skipped them. looking at my initial line sketch I actually did have the arms more proportionally correct. They somehow got shortened in the process... huh
Anyway, what do you recommend I read/study anatomy-wise?

>>4158300
====> /beg/

>>4158800
Nice

did another night time painting

>>4158723

I can't get over how dumb and unappealing your faces look Firez. Your work would be infinitely better if you dropped your weird uncanny valley sameface stuff and approached more human facial traits.

>>4158794
Wasn't me anon but fwiw I think you can give more detail to the fingers on her right hand

Some studies and doodles. The more I draw the larger the disparity grows between my ability to draw from reference and invent. I was expecting to improve at both somewhat, as reference improves visual library and so on, but no dice. Not looking for any silver bullet here, though i'm curious what resources or excercises helped you guys with the invention process to most? Cheers.

>>4159361
Just take Vilppu's NMA course (renaissance figure drawing). He literally teaches drawing from imagination as was done by the old masters and Disney.

I decided to be a masochist, and destroy my wrist some more...

>>4158564
Right hand is backwards

>>4159361
take two artists you like with distinct styles and draw one of their characters in the other's style. this obviously works better for /alt/ stuff than for realism. it can also help to try and build yourself style guides just like you'd do if you were an art director on a production. for master studies, you could try painting a new character into a scene or expand it beyond the border of the existing canvas, you can also do this with your life drawings. whatever you do, always try to be consciously applying what you learn in one form or another instead of just copying.
that zorn study looks really nice btw. think more about the head construction on the gunbuster sketches though.
>https://e-hentai.org/g/1474631/8ef30b82d1/

>>4159408
be nice to your hands anon

>>4159408
Kind of 2D, anon. Look at the old masters again. What you're doing with the hatching makes the whole thing feel flat.

Think more about what you're doing. Every decision impacts composition.

>>4159444
Mmm I see what you mean..I think I went a bit overboard on the shading, and it now lacks highlights...I have been trying to dial back on how dark I hatch pictures for awhile now, it's hard to get that balance, along with correct line-weight and all the other things that go into making a picture "pop"..I don't think I've managed too with any of my drawings so far.

>>4158742
>>4158750
Looks like a tranny

>>4159442
Will give it a shot, sounds like a fun exercise. I Didn't construct those head at all, and the fact that you could tell suggests I should lay down some structure first. Thanks for the insight anon.
>>4159405
DLing right now, cheers.

Wanted to make a phone wallpaper for myself.

Reposting this here cuz im a dumbass and didnt notice the other thread was ded

>>4159616
Thats awesome anon, getting Legacy of Kain vibes from it.

I made a tiny bit more progress on my inking.

>>4159604
really nice mood anon

was looking at turtles.

>>4159627
its a shame you already inked the hair because the hairline looks a bit too high and narrow, kind of weird looking

Working on mannequinization, posing, and consistency

>>4159420
Thanks

>>4158300
You want to space out the shoulder blades, right now they are so close, that the bot would not be able to move their arms back (shoulder retraction) without the blades hitting each other.

Concept of a sort of OC that I have

>>4159807
It’s drawn well but the design just seems kind of lame. My crit would be buff up the dude, tighter jeans, cuter facial expressions. It’s just too stiffly designed, it doesn’t have enough *ahem* soul. Looks like a computer made it.

How is this so far? I'm trying to emulate Frazetta style rendering with the brush pens that I have. Any tips?

>>4159804
Ahhh, yeah, I see what you mean. Thank you for your feedback!

>>4159144
nice colors

>>4159807
amazin
i wanna see more of your work anon

>>4159815
maybe actually look at what frazetta does in ink.

>>4159408
your signature is obnoxious.

>>4160236
I'm trying more for his painted style than inked

It's like a thing.

>>4160301
Incredible. Do you have more?

Anything about the legs and the composition (values) in need of a fix?

>>4159636
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>>4160093
thank you

>>4160478
Picturing her standing i see she has dwarf legs. The way she is posed right now, the feet should be almost out of the frame on the left. Also take 2 minutes and try to cross your legs while half extended like that. Either her right feet is gonna shoot up or her left leg need to be fully extended.

TL;DR: too short legs, impossible position.

Adam and Eve sketch for a bigger painting, give critique pls

>>4160636

There is too much shit to point out, the figures are disproportionate, the anatomy is wrong, the faces are bad, the snake doesn’t look like a snake, you have no clear or strong value grouping, the composition is bad, etc.

The onky thing I can say is study your fundies, hold off on painting for now because your drawing is still severely inadequate to be a base for a good painting

>>4160664
Fuck lol thanks

Just tried drawing with a pen for the first time in a while

>>4158204
Finished drawing
Any feedback?

>>4160883
I need to go to beg this shit is awful

>>4160712

Sorry if it sounds a little harsh, but you can get out of this stage in no time if you study! And don’t be afraid of using references

Laid down some lines on a new project.

painted an acquaintance

>>4160995
I like it. I think her labia are far too defined compared with the rest of her figure though.

>>4160960
Neat. Blog?

>>4161012

https://twitter.com/OkuusFabFacts

But Im only just now starting to get more competency. More to come.

>>4160995

Skin looks dead. Also the slit goes up way too high. It’s pretty obvious you’ve very little experience with vaginas.

>>4161051
>It’s pretty obvious you’ve very little experience with vaginas.
Will putting my penis in one help me draw them better? Can any femanons confirm this? Does your pussy imbue anatomy knowledge?

>>4161054
goood ooooone

>>4158204

>>4159811
Yeah, It could also be that I went for a overly clean style adk. And you're right about the cute faces, I should check them

>>4160187
Thank you anon!! There you have em. Also, check pic related for a sketch
https://www.instagram.com/jordi_milian/
https://twitter.com/jordi_milian

>>4160505
I adjusted the leg so it reads more naturally. An anon from Discord provided a very helpful reference, and so I made the corrections. Thank you very much for your critique. I look forward to rendering this character this weekend!

>>4161071

Wow! Where can I see more?

>>4161167
https://conceptartempire.com/photobashing/
Get crackin, friend.

>>4160478
>background darker than foreground
Should approach the value of the sky, but your subject is the same value as the sky

>>4161101
you keep fixing the legs but aren't thinking critically about them at all. the seams are all wrong and the feet look fucked.

>>4161167
I don't have anything in this style in my portfolio atm. This would be most similair https://www.artstation.com/artwork/PmVP2o

>>4158742
/v/ is a mean place

painted this

gonna paint this thing tomorrow, any advice/feedback before I jump in?

>>4161630
forgot to mention it's supposed to be a mysterious traveller kind of character

>>4161486
Holy fuck those nipples look like donuts. Did you paint a german girl?

been a while. It’s like riding a fucking bike all over again

>>4161630
Pick a primary light direction.

>>4161630
Take your time before jumping into the highlights. If in doubt don't up the value. And for crying out loud, never use white as highlight. Use a very increased value of colour.

>>4161486

Jesus those hands.

>>4160475
Thanks, here is my SM >>4152030

>>4161071
Hey friend, I've been watching you post for a while. I don't want to sound like a crab, but seeing your work lately gives me the impression you're getting lazy with your tricks. Your earlier works looked a lot more authentic. I assume this is because you have chosen to move on to working over 3d renders, but it just feels more cheap, and less refined than those restaurant/food paintings you were posting before.
No hate, and you do you, just my opinion here.

>>4158204
wow my image in the op, t-that's a good thing right?

>>4162090
You've made it.

>>4161101
souless

Trying to photobash and learn my way through backgrounds.

I'm not gonna work on this fella anymore but feedback would be appreciated. I'm mostly looking for feedback on values (though if you notice anything else that's off I'd love to hear it.) I tried to mostly focus on light and being clear with forms while keeping the composition relatively simple.

>>4162302
it's a little thing but lotls have 5 toes on their back legs. Could probably add a little pink bounce light on the surrounding area to really put the little guy in the environment? Besides that, I really think this is adorable, nice work.

>>4161940
>>4161940
Thanks for that actually. definitely struggling in finding what and how i want to visualize stuff. I'm hoping to finally find something so fun worth specializing in. 3d does seem like the best solution for problems solving. re-usability multiple angles etc. These kind of 3d renders are actually a lot more time consuming then those restaurant sketches were tho, only when producing multiple angles its worth it. So Its cool you say that, I'm surprised.

>>4162368
Thanks! I didn't think to add a little pink to the environment, that's great advice. I'll keep it in mind next time.

my webcomic i havent started

Heya, I've been making art since forever and I don't feel like improving at all. Yet I don't see anything wrong with my last piece... Any advice to improve?

just finished this

iunno what to call it

>>4162552
If I were you, I'd call it "A dream in Hell" because it's all I see.
I really like the composition and the color choice. It makes me think of this piece "Dante and Virgile" - William B

a bit less than 2-hour study of a small turtle at me local zoo.

its about the size of 2 a-4’s

>>4162563
thank you

>>4159682

few days later....

Anything in need of a fix?

>>4162709
Her right hand and her left hand aren’t holding the sword properly. On phone so can’t redline but if they were 3D models their hands would be clipping the hilt.

Got back to my Vamp thing from the last week. All the water stuff is just 10min. test shit as well as the lighting on his armored legs... My main question would be about his pose! I feel like a pose like this is pretty hard to read in general, no matter how good it's painted. A pose with his chest showing and what not, might be more readable. However I like how he's in a mid-jump-kind of pose. Wehh.

I don't need feedback on rendering or his moustache (he dosen't have one, yet). "Is this even a good idea? at all" is the type of thing I'd like to hear...

>>4162832

Anyways. Main question: Should I even continue with this and if I should, what should I do differently? I hate everything I'm doing. Here's 5% of another thing I'm doing now. Just 5% of the whole piece. I hate how dissatisfied I am with everything I put out...

>>4162867
What's up Dave?

>>4162959

Not even close. I'll still take that as a compliment...

>>4162867

Lol. Is dat Gemini from Thundarr the Barbarian?

>>4163096


Why, yis it is! Thanks for making me feel less old...

>>4160960

consider that line weight exists.

Flats

>>4163113
Do more of this. Thundar was great, and the world was pretty interesting too.

>>4162867
If that's just five percent I'd hate finishing the 95% of the image with that much complicated rendering regarding all the color, value, texture, brush economy, etc. You have to take into account no one actually cares about all that level of complex detail except you. Also - what you're doing is breaking many rules of composition and painting. What is important in the image? What's not important? Are you highlighting what's important with detail, meanwhile obscuring what's not important with little or even no detail at all? This is why in painting we have to take into account the big picture. If you're painting an environment scene (a forest) the big picture is maybe the trees or one singular trees that capture your eye, it won't be every single branch or the bark on the trunk. Take this as someone who used to be a renderfag.

Also learn more about painting by thumbnailing and speedpainting:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0xOuwp2kVg

>>4163654
so he changed the road angle?

>>4163620
Nice lines! Really digging the variance. Interesting to see how you take it from now onwards.

>>4163595
The mood is definitely there. However the light on the floor is jagged, unconvincing and frankly spoils the overall clean shape of the composition.

>>4163654
Yes to all of this. It is a much wiser time spent on taking measures to ensure the bigger picture instead of pouring over small details that contribute lesser impact to the entire image.

in the works

wip
Gonna add a large patch on the back and money falling out of a hole in the bag.

>>4163989
looks awesome, keep it up

sketch of a lad

>>4164171
Pretty cool anon, although it doesn't look like a spot on representation, you did pretty good blending.

>>4164143
Deviantart or instagram? Cool critter. I look forward to seeing you get better if you continue with things like this. Work on your composition and ideas first before laying down paint next time

this is the latest i did for inktober trying to catch the fuck up is hard but i am now a little more comftorable with the markers

painting a friend

>>4164228
finished it

>>4164288
>>4164228
Gross.

Still working on this from several Draw Threads ago. Been busy lately so i don't have alot of time to work. Does anything look really off here? I wanted to make them almost mirrored but still show the different personalities of each character. I had trouble figuring out the leg positions and i'm still not sure i like where they are. I think maybe the left girls raised upper leg is a bit short.

>>4158723

This is the first time I’ve ever tried to do anything with no lines, it’s rough but it’s supposed to be the inside of a mine, I’m drawing from imagination, although I think I’m going to just have to follow a reference.

>>4164326
This looks fantastic anon, but the one in the front, her middle and ring finger look a lil weird, and her knee looks a lil too thick. Can’t wait to see the finished product.

>>4164551
I don't know why you seem to give all your women saggy tits. The middle dead chicks tits are extremely saggy like old women have. Maybe that's your preference i don't know but i suggest trying to raise the nipples on most of your paintings to give the tits a more youthful and firm shape. The bottom three aren't bad though. There's alot of different breast shapes you could use that are attractive, but saggy isn't one of them. Google "breast shapes".

>>4164602
I don’t think I depict all of them as saggy but I will try to be more aware of that. Thanks!

I feel like I'll get exploded on my other thread so I'm posting this study here.

>>4164173

yea, i'm generally not overly concerned with scientific accuracy on my dinosaurs. if anything, that Tyrannosaur is more accurate than most of my stuff.

>>4164883

whoops, sorry, forgot to resize.

>>4164662
Study the muscles of the ass cause that right there is a Hank Hill ass.. They aren't just circles..they should look more like butterfly wings when viewed together from behind. Indicate the Ribcage/Waist/Buttocks/Legs relationship better. It looks like the lats are going straight into the ass. Also the upper legs are bowling pins. There are subtle shapes that differentiate the inner and outer upper thigh. The traps and neck area needs work as well. The traps should be indicated traveling up the back of the neck and twisting as the head is turned, but here the head just looks like its been glued on top of the shoulders. The right calf is also smaller than the left.

>>4160480
nice

>>4164894
Thank you anon for this critique. I'll get to work immediately.
Actually i just did sticky the head to the neck as it was previously too big.

>>4165119
I like everything, except that horse and those gnomes, give blogg

>>4164602
Completely disagree, none of the women have saggy breasts per the age depicted. If he raised the nipples they wouldn't look more youthful they'd just look weird. You don't know what saggy breasts actually look like and are giving advice based on your preferences for very perky breasts. Breasts that size that are much perkier are actually kind of rare (or fake), which is fine, but critiquing a well done drawing of a natural, common shape as being badly done is disingenuous.

Pic related is what saggy breasts actually look like, he hasn't drawn that at all. Before/after plastic surgery galleries can be informative for things like this. That anon might also just be European, they tend not to draw breasts so round or high up.

Trying to memorize guns and stuff. Need to get a more efficient design

>>4164602
Why does no one ever seem to differentiate them like this?

>>4158204
A start on my borderline retarded strength focused cleric gobelin for the next Pathfinder table.

>>4165242
Well you can call them saggy or non perky or whatever you like there isn't much difference and you seem to be splitting hairs. A chick that's standing straight up with her arm back but the nipple is still pointing straight down at the ground is unappealing no matter what you call it.

>>4165327
Because most artists have same boob syndrome as well as same face and same body syndrome.

never drew anything full body, only used to doodle back in school. got a tablet recently and tried drawing a full body
drew 1 first, then adjusted body proportions on the 2 one. basically i have no real experience drawing. which bad parts are the most evident?

>>4163654
>>4163680


Thanks for the ideas. I really needed to hear that. The final piece is going to have 3 characters and a minimal background and I really need to keep focus in mind when I have my final composition set. I'll probably tone back the detail for a while before I have everything set.

I'll come back with some updates in the coming days/weeks.

>>4163647

Love the universe as well! It's a really interesting mix of magic and technology. I'm doing 3 characters initially and I might do more if people like the piece.

>>4165389
Pretty much all of it, but that's ok if you're just starting. You gave her right hand a good try with foreshortened fingers instead of hiding it, but her left looks like a dogs paw. Her right shoulder looks fucked though like her deltoid got consumed by a flesh eating bacteria. The legs have no crotch space as if they are joined together at the bottom of her pussy. Don't get consumed too much with the details right now...and stay zoomed out 90% of the time so you get a better feel for proportions. Don't be afraid to copy photos...and if you have to trace a hand to understand it better that's ok, but use it sparingly.

did a charcoal drawing

donald duck drifting a railroad tamper i guess

>>4165809

So you took a photo of a street and pasted a railroad tamper on the foreground. Then you took a brush and picked the colors straight from the image and hastily re-painted over the original using absolutely random brushes. Then you tried to paint Donald but you had no idea how to do it since you couldn't just paste an image of the character from the internet as you did for the rest of the image.

10/10 I love it.

>>4165829
thanks the person i did it for liked it too

drew a head

Been busy the past week, so posting my last major finished drawing.

Warmup thumb. I kinda like the color palette. Might use it for something some time. Please don't take a closer look.

working on this

Made some adjustments.

>>4165894
... did you though? :)

>>4166723
finished it

Just finished the drawing and Initial Colors on this one

Currently tryna colour in this fuccboi but holy shit its tough and my deepest fear is my inexperience with colouring will turn this piece from SOUL to SOULLESS.

>>4158204
Just finished this one

My last piece I have been working on
the life lines are not so good as i wish i had drawn them coming from the heart but i can't change anymore

>>4166829
very flat, and corpse like colors brian, needs another pass.
>>4166731
beware of sameface, the only thing separating each character is the hair.
>>4166380
grey scale it . too much darker values, throw at least one semi stronger light source in perhaps.
>>4165894
work on construction first before going in with tricks.
>>4164094
overall nice job, however the casings need to be smaller, would they fit in the mag with a bullet, looks like no, basically, mag bigger or rounds smaller.

>>4167360
Good point, they look more like 10mm than 9mm casings, I didn't catch that, thanks anon.

cant sleep.

>>4167550

the abs look like they're not lit from the same light source as everything else.

>>4167550
Do you study Masamune Shirow?
Also: blog?

Staff captain of the tsarist army

>>4166829
did more to this, really happy with how it turned out :D

dios mio..

>>4167625
Noted
>>4167649
I've looked at his work a lot and love it but I wouldn't say I've "studied" it. Had a copy of GITS since I was very young, it's probably ingrained in my mind by now.

I tend to ignore my pixiv now cause I don't do as much explicit stuff, but here ya go:
https://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=16041920

WIP of a Halloween ilustration I'm doing for likes on Twitter

>>4169158
DONE

>>4158204

Bobby Jean

>>4169762
Finished i guess. Don't feel like colouring it.

>>4158204
Just a sketch. Give me some anatomy tips and tips on how to better simplify

my skill is low but i really want to complete this

WIP of a biker riding through hell, there's going to be lightning in the sky, pls don't laugh at me and crits

>>4170094
The gun rotation is great
The basic face kinda ruins it

>>4169982
Holy shit >>>/beg/

drew something in class today
can't draw feet for shit though

>>4169982
The right arm is too long. Anatomy is wonky. Sketch lines are cleaner than mine, but overall drawing needs more work.

>>4170228
thanks,i am gonna render it,that is what you meant right?

>>4170578
Change the hairstyle maybe, its a little cringy ngl

>>4170579
>its a little cringy ngl
i mean i mean
cmonnnnnnnnnnnnnn

>>4170583
What is it dude? I mean if you like it so much go ahead

>>4167653
Кaк дeлa?

>>4170881
this is really cool anon

Did this scene to practice perspective and proportion. But Can't see myself finishing it. Should it be fantasy theme? post apoc gang? Fan picture of a popular character?

>>4165327
because most artists aren't cumbrains

>>4170881
Tastefull and gorgeous
Kolesov inspo?

>>4170618
вы c двaчa нaбeжaли?

>>4170899
use a perspective grid, programs such as krita have it built in and can be used on a separate layer
>>4170881
its looking good, one thing i can suggest about this one is that all your line flow is pointing to a place of no interest (in between the two figures at the bottom center left. other than that, check your values and flip the image more often. great work anon.
>>4170488
too close to the sun icarus, slow down and work on your line consistency, but before even that may i suggest taking a further step back and working on fundamentals with your anatomy before diving straight into the sun known as style, repeating styles you love but dont necessarily "know" will only set you back as you are not understanding the way the original artist has contorted things and why they have. keep grinding anon.
>>4170452
invest in a sketch book without lines, or even blank loose paper for a printer 300 pages for like 11 bucks, also, when mark making try to limit yourself to the fewest possible lines, one confident incorrect line looks far better than 40 scratchy "correct" ones. keep doing pages like this, but incorporate some more focus.
>>4170204
line weight, try to vary it a bit more. your construction needs work but the amount of detail you have put into this so far is carrying most of the works weight. dont fall into the trap of thinking that more detail is more better. other than that i really like the style and some of the warped perspective, really want to see updates of this one anon, looks good.
>>4170094
>>4169982
im not trying to be an ass but you both would really do well to read the sticky and maybe post in /beg/, you will receive better direction and learn with those of the same skill caliber, which does help progression in the early stages.

>>4165324
Memorizing vehicles

>>4172449
So, you love dogs?

>>4172659

I haven't drawn in a few weeks, don't want to lose my progress. Can a fellow coomer tell me what i can do better?

>>4172776
ur values are bad

>>4172880
no they're not

>>4158245
uh, don't do that 'check" shit
proportion doesn't quite work like that

i did a tree trunk

>>4170452
>when all your inspiration looks like it came from /ic

that's it guys I can't take /ic anymore, have a great time.

making this disign for a hoodie. it has to be finished today, but im stilll nog happy with the face.

tips very welcome.

Haven't done a painting in a long while. Should I quit while I'm ahead or finish this?

>>4173384
Start over and draw it properly before painting. At a quick glance: the head is turning to our right yet the pupil on the right is larger, the nose is turning in the opposite direction to the face and he has no cranium.

>>4173393
Fuck I keep messing up the proportions of the head. I haven't drawn realism in some time either. I'll probably go ahead and start over rather than polish a turd. Thanks for the feedback.

Requesting critiques on the lighting, forms, and color choices. For far, about two hours have been invested into the rendering.

>>4172880
What about them needs work? Do they not describe the forms adequately or are they too messy?

>>4172913
they really are though

is this cute?

>>4159807
average coomer physique

I’m going for a 70s sci-fi landscape feel with this. How can I fix it before coloring it?

>>4173678
I think fill in the background a bit on the left side.

Sketches - any critiques and/or ideas for colours to use? thank you

finished this, feel like it only needed three layers

>>4173808
I did some wet on wet on top of it, think that it looks better now

Alright, playing around with this.
Colors are not final. Shapes are not final. Just trying to feel out a good composition.

Not sure if the Channeler and Ghastly are interacting well. Design is hard.

>>4173732
Use black. As in, dump a bottle of ink on the paper so those hideous creations can't be seen anymore.

>>4173886
very nice anon, are you inspired by starowieyski?

>>4173901
This is soulless and bullcrap enough to make you earn your first couple ks working for some liberal city council's adverts. This shit I see announcing some exposition/fair/alternative cinema thing.
Provided you have ridden the council's cock carousel beforehand, of course.

>>4173934
Black would make it a bit hard to see.

>>4173947
lol can you point out something specific I could improve.

This is seriously the bare bones of what I try to do.

Attached is kinda what I've been working on lately (not finished either)

>>4173948
Are you clinically stupid

>>4173958

Ok - are they hideous as a result of the design or just hideous?

I find it very difficult to make clean strokes. I don't know if i'd call it chicken scratching but you can clearly see that I go over my lines usually 2 or 3 times.
It's even harder when using a brush that does not have opacity jitter on. Despite this, almost everyone I look at has nice lines that perfectly connect with one another such that it seems like large chunks of the drawing were done in a single stroke. Maybe my hand isn't meant for precision, or my canvas is too small.

>>4174123
You have good looking linework to start, I would put them down a bit darker and use an eraser to clean them up afterwards for a neater look

>>4173954
Anatomy is a bit fugged up, especially the skull. I would work more on contruction lines if you don't already use them and clean up the banding on the shading unless that's the style you are going for

>>4173056
they accepted the design and gave me some more time to finish it.

>>4174123
ahhh this is so amazing i wanna be able to draw smooth lines and forms like this but i just fuck it up

>>4174123
Since you're using photoshop, you could get some help with a stabilizer that would better control your tablet pen coordination. Lazy Nezumi is an add-on you can install that might help with your strokes and and precision.

>>4174184
I'm using csp, I just call it jitter cause everyone else does. I do make use of stabilizers, I think it's just that my wrist interferes when it shouldn't. I never use the full range of my tablet, usually restrict myself to a small area of it so when I try to make a stroke longer than a couple of inches my wrist either locks up or moves without me realizing.

Anyone have advice to why these colours look weak?

>>4160636
make adam and eve have auburn hair and eve's eyes are too sullen
thighs are thin

>>4164171
sharper teeth please
nostrils need to be higher

is there a service where i can pay for high level critiques from professional illustrators?

>>4175317
/ic/ is unironically the best you'll get apart from an atelier or something. this place has a lot of great and helpful people as long as you can distinguish the useful advice from the bogus

>>4175317
Pete Mohrbacher and 1FantasticWeek do mentoring and critiques.

>>4173886
the green sky wasn't working for me

>>4175331
when u gonna finish this already and start another

>>4175331
Poor woman looks like she had a hysterectomy

>>4175402
I feel sorry for her more because she had to interact with Brian.

>>4175399
I painted this today too

>>4175632
cool looks like shit

>>4175639
it must be fun to just get to type whatever you want on this board. you get to interact with actual artists, that must be so cool for you.

>>4175641
>that
>actual art

lol

Just finished this, what do you think?

>>4175641
lmfao dont kid yourself this is the shittiest most toxic board on 4chan you are about as much as artist as a fucking dumpster is

>>4175683
i like it.
i'm not good at critiques though.
looks good to me.

>>4175715
Idk man, looks pretty good on a wall

>>4175743
You can’t even tell what’s going on in the painting

>>4175743
lmfao what the fuck even is it

>>4175834
I can’t tell if you’re trolling or not but that’s a woman’s lower torso my dude.

>>4175743
you know, look at this from this perspective, it looks like a penis pouring out of a bag with a really bad bend right beneath a circumcised head with the meatus (penis hole) pointing towards the bottom right corner of the picture. there's even a little bit of testicle popping out from the bag.

it's actually really uncomfortable to look at.

>>4175838
Looks like a burnt pear.

>>4162272
No photobash if u are new at painting. Lern about the basic first

>>4164288
The value suck, bad anatomy

>>4175848
HOLY KEK CANNOT UNSEE

>>4175683
Wouldn’t mind having this as a background for my ultra wide.

>>4175848
Bit of a reach

>>4158283
this is messed upup

Thoughts?

>>4176821
Something about her shape and this shading really bothers me. Her eyes don't look properly shaded, her face looks extremely flat despite the shading attempting to indicate otherwise, and I hope that black clothing isn't her buttcheeks because my god it is awful

I'm sorry, I really don't know what to say other than this looks completely alien and gross. I know you're not finished shading, but try to make your light sources less confusing. Also I don't know if those feet are in the fight perspective?

>>4176821
SOULLESS.

>>4161630
Good god I love him. Blog?

Do you fill in your base colors before doing values when you render a figure?
The way I do it is I fill my lineart with a single flat color and do all my values in monochrome on a separate layer. Later I just add the actual colors under that and play around with layer modes and stuff until I think it looks alright. I don't like the way I do it, I mean it works but my process is all over the place and inefficient.

Another thing is, how do you know when you're varying your values/hues enough, or if you're going overboard? You almost never use a single color for ALL your shadows, since not all of them are gonna have the same exposure to the light, so you need at least a "light shadow" color and a "dark shadow" color. Same goes for midtones and lit surfaces as well. So if you wanted to render some red clothing in sunlight, you'd use, say, a bright red and an orange for lit areas, and a few shades of dark red and maybe purple for the areas the light doesn't reach.
My problem is I don't actually know how many tones I should be using in the first place. I often use too many which ends up making my forms look undefined. Basically how much value/hue variation do you need to have in a colored object to prevent it from looking dead or boring or muddy?

>>4176881
My process is-
-lines
-base color, then use clipping groups for different colors
-shade on top of those colors with multiply/other modes and alter base colors when necessary, etc.

Extremely organized really. I don't ever really consider whether I'm going overboard with the hue variations- sometimes that's actually a style that people prefer. Using warmer tones for sunlight and cooler tones for shadows is just a basic.
Imo just even a slight bit of hue shifting can bring your image from dull to at least not dull. Advanced coloring techniques like adding blues and greens depending on the skin area, or subtle bits of orange for subsurface scattering takes a bit more knowledge. Looking up tutorials and doing research helps. Maybe pyw and I can see if you're actually going overboard. You're not making a rainbow here, just trying not to use white/black.

Made a few fixes.

>>4177036
Here are a few attempts I've made since my previous post. Initially I couldn't figure out how to improve the thing on the right so I took a break and tried to do the bird one on the left. It's really messy and hard to read but I realised that I could be using much darker colors and values on the first thing I was working on, so I went back and added onto it.

I'm probably going to have to redo it since it's so unclean, and I doubt I could recreate it since I kept switching brushes partway through and didn't really keep any consistency. Also I used a shit ton of random colors and just plastered them everywhere, so I'd have trouble replicating what few pleasant hue variations there are.

I'd appreciate any advice you could give me. Looking at this now I probably could've added some skin tones to show sunlight, and defined the lit areas with midtones (although I'm not sure how to do that without making it look like an out-of-place shadow). It feels like whatever I learn I forget the next day, probably a consequence of low IQ

>>4177075
gotta be a latina with that ass.

>>4177144
Very poofy shorts. Just got to add the creases and detail work to make it obvious, like in the pic.

I'll be honest and say I thought they were ball joints until I saw this.

I have no idea how to render, but this was my best attempt. would really appreciate any tips or recommended tutorials. Say what works & what doesn't.

>>4177090
This is a bit tough because you have such incredibly bright colors that are heavily contrasting each other. Your greens/blues are incredibly cold, while the orange is incredibly warm and then turned slightly colder with strange blotches of purple. IMO if you're going to have such different colors, you have to try to blend them, as well as tone down some of the more vibrant colors. Forgive me if this doesn't look much better, but I think you're just going a bit too dark with some of this shading.

If you want to keep the vibrant color style, I'd suggest experimenting more with different color combinations or seeing if you'd prefer to have the more vibrant colors for lighting only. It didn't look like you were going for realism here, so I tried to still keep it stylized, but all you have to do really is consider-

-your colors being too bright
-your shadows being too dark
-mixing the smallest hints of warm/cold colors together if they contrast heavily
-consider bounce lighting

lil something

>>4176821
Her hand left hand (our right) should be bigger considering the foreshortning.

>>4177228
You turned those shadows into a muddy mess. Sorry looks horrible

>>4177418
>>4177075

>>4177442
Turned mud into better mud

>>4177228
Went and tried rendering it again. Thanks for the advice, yeah usually I pick washed out colors by default, so to combat that I consciously make everything saturated/vibrant which sometimes doesn't really work.

One of my problems was that I didn't consider contrast within shadows, as in I couldn't tell when a dark surface should be darker or lighter than an adjacent dark surface, but I more or less developed an eye for it.

I think I have to study how to render different materials like scales and leather, because her tail looks like a slug and her tits are kind of metallic. Thanks for your help!

>>4177995
That looks 100% better anon, I'm happy you managed to make it work w/ your style, since I think it looks pleasantly vibrant still.

Yeah, different textures can be tough, but with enough time and maybe some studies I'm sure you could get the hang of it. Glad I could help out

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