/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>4156768
It's dead.
Did Wordpress announce something about it, or did they just buy it and forgot about it?

>>4156768
Pixiv sucks cock, literally the only good thing about it is that you can upload image sets and that blew people's minds lol. Everything else about the site sucks noodle

>>4156770
>>4156775
so... is twitter the art site now or is there something else?

Tumblr isn't dead but it might be tough to get started there now after nsfw ban.
Pixiv is only good when your art doesn't scream"westerner". It's very very good for nsfw fan art.
Twitter is the new Tumblr. It should be your main site.
All other platforms are great too since it never hurts to be everywhere. It takes 10 seconds to upload a drawing. Why limit yourself?

>>4156768
Tumblr’s sole purpose is to put your stuff somewhere so you can download it without Twitter’s compression happening.

>>4156803
What other platforms do you mean? HentaiFoundry, Deviantart etc.?

>>4156827
Does Twitter actually compress images?
It always looks fine when you view image

>>4157067
It looks jpeg af

>>4157067
Not all cases are obvious unless you zoom but it truly does. Go nudge people you like to consider other websites even if those places are dead.

>>4157067
The compression is awful and it gets worse the more color depth your piece has. Just use pixiv or some other site to host your high res shit and use twitter to advertise, post pngs on twitter with the longest dimension at 900px maximum and it won't compress

>>4157208
>Uses 640x1000.
>Twitter images are undoubtly fucked.
>Commitment to drawings being final isn’t there now.
>Can keep reuploading images to Tumblr to have a best version.

>>4156768
Tumblr is kill
Pixiv is nippon only
DA is ok but too many ngmis tnat and fetish fags need to be purged from that place
Artstation is pros only
Twitter is meh
Instagram is fine, about like twitrer but less political bullshit and propaganda everywhere

I've had good experince with DA so far, the eclipse switch drove off alot of the underage b& who used it for the css and I have a decent following there as of now.

>>4157252
What about facebook?

>>4157253
Only boomers use facebook anon. I was there for a few months and got no followers at all, on instagram I have 3,000+ and growing.

dA and Newgrounds don't compress even huge ass jpeg files. Pixiv, Twitter, Tumblr and every other noteworthy art site does.
HentaiFoundry has a 1600x1600px limit if anyone cares.

>>4157256
Twitter and tumblr aren't art sites

>>4157252
why IS artstation nothing but superartists? Do you need to get approved to join or something?
Is it a subscription??

>>4157253
>facebook

>>4157252
Please stay away from artstation, we have a small drove of kids from da flooding in and it's terrible. I know a staff member and they've banned so many fan art, fetish and underage accounts so far it's crazy.

The only ngmi on artstation I like is sami, sami is crazy.

>>4157262
No, it's just traditon there to shun shitty artists until they leave. They usually do when they find out it's not a popularity contest like furfags have.
>>4157266
You mean the guy who draws the same face everyday? Yea I've seen him, man is a legend.

>>4156768
with tumblr dead, where do you all find nude reference?

>>4157269
I use my wife.

>>4157271
Using a body pillow isn't great for reference.

>>4157275
HAHAHA SO FUNNY! TOTALLY NOT OVERUSED!

>>4157262
highlight the text and press ctrl+s

>>4156775
Pixiv has far less cringe art in spite of many western artists using it, but you have to obey by their rules since you know, japanese website, so, mosaics or black bars, otherwise you get either ban or throttled.

Deviantart recently change its interface, looks okay but still has Cringe Retarded Child Autism.

>>4157262
>approved to join
honestly artstation should implement this, have some criteria of what education you've received- if you're self taught, specify what books/lessons you've followed, then post 5 examples of your art etc.

They should hurry and think of something before its too late

>>4156768
I just use IG

>>4157295
Pixiv sends you an automated email if someone reports a drawing. That drawing is then made private and you need to resubmit it. However you need premium status to do that so you just delete the old one and reupload it. There are plenty of western artists that don't bother with censorship and nobody cares.

>>4157278
Absolutely booty-blasted.

>>4156768
tumblr is absolutely dead. all the artists, nsfw or otherwise, left for twitter. when the artists left, the audience left.
it's sad but that's how it is now.

>>4157326
I never had to censor anything on pixiv, people don't seem to care unless you're japanese, even kr artists get away with shit

>>4157266
artstation sounds cliqeuy and gay.

>>4157067
>>4157136
>>4157138
>>4157208
>>4157222
You can read a pretty detailed explanation of Twitter's image uploading quirks here:

https://ravenworks.ca/twitimagefix/

>>4157253
>Daring to mention Facebook on motherfucking 4Chan of all places
Not sure if based or retarded, but possibly both

>>4157852
Facebook is big with normies. It's great for growing your follower count. You just dump your drawings there and that's it. Why do you not want that?

Admittedly I don't know how Tumblr was before the nsfw ban because I never really used it, but the artists I follow on Tumblr at the moment all post weekly or more often, and there seem to be plenty of artists and other users around?

I've heard from former Tumblr users that all they used the site for was porn, but since I don't care about that it seems perfectly fine to me? And I haven't found a better place to follow other artists easily.
DA might serve that purpose, but I feel like the place has a big problem with their reputation as the site for degenerates and autists.

Was Tumblr just hugely more active even outside of NSFW stuff before the ban? And in that case, where did these artists go afterward? I find it hard to believe they all went to Twitter since that's an incredibly shit platform for pretty much anything that isn't using it as a RSS feed.

>>4158020
They did go to twitter. A lot of artists made twitter accounts and switched back and forth on the two sites. When tumblr was first sold, there was this gradual slow migration. After the NSFW ban it was easy for these artists to switch entirely twitter due to already building a strong and robust follower base.
I never joined tumblr for NSFW, it seemed more a place for memes, a flourishing corner of specific internet culture, and fandom related things above all else, so I was surprised when a lot of people I followed/friends said they'd be leaving for twitter due to the ban.
I think people just generally disliked the direction tumblr started to go and it simply became a less "hip" or "legtimate" place to be.
I actually perfer DA to twitter and tumblr; for posting. It feels less like a rat race on there than those other sites and I carefully curate a big watch list of industry professionals and browse their favorites; so I have no need to see any of the autistic stuff except out of morbid curiosity.

>>4157252
>Instagram
God, please no. Why do I keep seeing d/ic/ks recommending that site? It's own by Facebook for shit's sake.

>>4158020
They probably chose Twitter because a lot of Japanese artists use it but it's not a Japanese website like Pixiv.

>>4157252
People are actually mass leaving because of Eclipse as it was the final straw. I left after 12 years (mostly because all artists I've watched started leaving over years). There's still a decent number of people but the site's dying. Once there's an actual alternative it's probably going to perish for good. But I agree with >>4158039, thought it's definitely started feeling like a rat race since Eclipse was introduced. Suddenly the amount of watchers are what matters the most and the introduction of likes is an absolutely terrible idea.

>>4157297
That's a good idea, imo.

>>4157058
I would say newgrounds is a pretty good place to post as well. Redundancy is a good idea since who knows when your favourite website will go all tumblr on you.

>>4157262
Go to Artstation and change the sorting to "Latest", suddenly it's as nightmarish as DA

https://www.artstation.com/santalahti

>>4158020
>Was Tumblr just hugely more active even outside of NSFW stuff before the ban?
I run a SFW art blog (no porn) on tumblr. I used to get 1-3k notes per upload, before the porn born. After the porn ban I started to get 100-200 notes per upload. My twitter used to be pretty dead, but exploded when my tumblr got less active, and now the 1-3k shows up on my twitter instead of tumblr. I don't know what other artists are doing (I just post everywhere), but a large audience definitely went to twitter.

>>4158126
>porn born
Fuck, I meant porn ban.

>>4157326
Youre full of shit.
Pixiv doesn't care and ive seen all kinds of fucked up stuff uncensored there.

>>4156768
Use Newgrounds, it's pretty good nowadays.

>>4158085
New can be bad, but from what I've seen it never hits the low of DA. In fact DA artist who would be praised in their home town are artstations worst artists. I think what gives art station better artists is that its kind of a normie filter. Its a big site, but it isn't as iconic as insta DA or tumblr. The people who know about it are usually more serious concept artists so even their worse have a light grasp of fundamentals. People who don't know about artstation, or 'art normies', are usally hobiest teens who aren't as good at art. Pic related was on new

Use furaffinity

>>4158180
because nobody reported it yet. Do you think they manually review every submission?

>>4157252
>but too many ngmis tnat and fetish fags need to be purged from that place
It's called DeviantArt for a reason you retard.

Wish I didn't have to attach a phone number to my Twitter account

>>4158452
Use a burner number. Google Voice numbers used to work but I'm not sure they still do.

>>4156803
It adds quite fast, I'm spending like 1 hours of just SM, I do it because my ability to pay rent depends on me getting more exposure rather than my skill at this point

>>4156768
can you do well on mastadon if you're not interested in drawing pedoshit? not judging but i just don't find that aesthetic appealing

>>4159409
Mastodon has like 30-40k active users. Twitter has over 300 million. Don't bother with Mastodon. It's a graveyard.

>>4157058

Tumblr isn't dead, but it's not near as popular as it was. It's hard to build up a following, and they have started (clumsily) compressing images.

DeviantArt is worth a look. They don't compress the image, you can hotlink, and it's easy to sell (although they kill you on commissions.)

>>4157295
Does pixiv mind me posting studies of famous manga artists? I can post a disclaimer about it no problem, I wouldn’t want people to think I am trying to copy them and passing them as my own.

What about Baarg? Or Newgrounds? Newgrounds seems like an aight place but it kinda sucks since you need an account to view adult stuff. Which kinda sucks since you can't really gather an audience without an account. Not sure about Baarg, but it seems like anything goes on there.

>>4160148
>need an account to view adult stuff.
i tried incognito and it worked

>>4159541
Tumblr is dying fast. It was just recently sold for a few bucks.

I really wonder why Yahoo went through with banning adult content from Tumblr, only to tank the site and end up selling it for peanuts less than a year later. Surely they knew more than half the userbase would abandon it if they could no longer view/post all manner of degenerate shit. It was no secret that everyone knew Tumblr was the social network for cummies.

They should've sold it when they knew the CP situation was out of control. They would've received a little more money and handed off the problem to someone else to deal with. But we all knew Yahoo is run by incompetent people.

Amino might be worth looking into, Reddit can be OK (they have a follow feature now), Facebook might be worthwhile if you draw Boomer friendly content. Tiktok could be used for compressed progress videos, Weibo might be useful if you're bilingual with Chinese. Pinterest could be ok for an informal portfolio especially if your work is feminine.

>>4158020
I had a popular sfw blog on tumblr, my art used to get several thousand notes there per post but Twitter was always my main so when the shit went down I just abandoned tumblr.
I went and checked there lately, all of my mutuals who were in a similar position to me struggle to break 500 now. Which is pretty poor all things considered and is a reflection on the decline of the site.
When I checked tags there was easily less than half the amount of posts there than from when I was active. It’s user base has declined massively since last year.
Basically this >>4158126

>>4161471
It’s because they got banned on the App Store due to the porn. Of course porn is on multiple apps like twitter but tumblr fucked up badly because they were lazy and did not moderate the porn and as a result the big bot problem (that they ignored) mass posted irl CP.
That’s what got them in trouble and that couldn’t be ignored. They tried to stop it but could not, they had ignored the problem for so long that the bot network had become extremely complex and for every blog they deleted, two more popped up (I read an article on it before, it’s incredible how out of hand it became).
They were so preoccupied with getting the app back on the App Store as quick as possible that the only solution for them was to just nuke all of the porn.

I agree though, they should have just sold it, I feel like most people didn’t use the tumblr app anyway because it was fairly shit? But suits probably insisted on restoring the app at any cost necessary while not understanding anything about its user base and why people used their site.

I have no idea why Wordpress have not restored the porn though. You’d think they would. It’s going to keep dying at this rate and become livejournal 2.0

>>4161999
>livejournal
Damn, you must be around my age to remember LiveJournal. I knew LJ's days were numbered when Six Apart bought it. They fucked it up, drove away users and then dumped it on some fucking Russian company. By then, basically everyone had abandoned it for MySpace, Blogger, etc, and then Tumblr came around, lol.

>>4158452
Send them a message on Twitter help saying you dont have a phone and that it's "disrespectful and discriminatory to assume you have the priviledge to buy one". I did that and they instantly unsuspended my account and didn't need to give them any info lmao

>>4158452
You don't have to. If you don't you will get banned almost instantly however if you contact their support they will get back to you in about two weeks to unlock your account. i've done this multiple times now. Fuck Twitter.

>>4159409
The biggest art instance on Mastodon has rules like "if you mansplain or say not all men you are banned"

>>4161999
>I have no idea why Wordpress have not restored the porn though. You’d think they would.
I swear, I don't understand why porn is so necessary on sites that aren't for porn. It's not like you're adding a sprinkle of salt, you enable porn on a platform and it becomes 90% porn. Are people really in the mood for porn 24/7, or porn on their feeds?
Is it not normal anymore to only go to a porn site when you feel horny?
I wish Wordpress went the opposite direction instead and tried to use Tumblr to restore blogging in some form. Even Tumblr was better for artists than Twitter or Instagram. I know there's no coming back from a centralized internet, and blogging has been replaced by YT, but there has to be a way to make it attractive again besides just fucking money. Do people really just want to do a thing if it gets them the chance to be popular? When made my first blog I just wanted to meet people. Don't people have anything to talk about these days? Are people really OK with expressing themselves in tweets and looking at porn all the time?
I feel like everyone has gone completely insane in the span of a decade. Christ this is alienating.

>>4162557
>Are people really in the mood for porn 24/7, or porn on their feeds?
I literally just went to tumblr for porn
I'd load it up when I was horny like any other porn site

>>4162557
I feel the same way and if it makes you feel a bit better, I've spoken to others that expressed the same sentiment. The main problem is that there's really nowhere to go anymore. If you haven't already found a small community that'll take you in, it's basically impossible to find people you can get along with. If you do find a place and it gets popular, it always ends up becoming some conglomerate of degenerates that change the mood of the place since they end up bringing off-site culture with them, or it eventually ends up dying entirely because people end up leaving for other websites. Why stay there when they can go elsewhere that’s more active? The only way I can see something like livejournal, blogger, or tumblr being popular again is if it has a ton of social media integrated into it so it’s more attractive to modern users. I wish there were enough people to sustain what sites used to be like before it became popular with the general population, but it seems like it would be incredibly difficult to maintain active

>>4162628
There are too many normies with a phone shitting things up. I met my first gf online on a "large" website that had 3000 users at its peak. Dated another girl from a forum. I got a foreign girl's address from text chatting on Omegle and we sent each other snail mail. Made a bunch of IRL friends that were normal people. I had contacts I talked to for years and years on ICQ. All people that shared my hobbies. Is that even remotely possible these days?
After people started making it big on the internet it immediately became like a global talent show. You can't interact with human beings anymore. Things like Mastodon made me hope so much for a shift back to smaller realities but you'll never see normal people there.
I would try my hand at it but I don't have time to moderate a Mastodon instance and no idea where to start. Also nobody would join because, again, people just flock to where the numbers are.

>>4162661
Like you said, it's at the point where users don't even want to share anything if there's no a chance of getting fame, recognition, or money out of it. There's no way to compete with the instant gratification that the modern internet can offer you. I really can't imagine being able to interact with people the way you're describing and I have personally experienced anymore, maybe we're looking in the wrong places, but I don't think that's the case. If you've recently spoken "avid" internet users (especially phone-users), chances are that if they aren't on reddit, facebook or twitter, they're just not really using the internet at all other than to watch youtube videos or upload images to platforms like instagram. I'm sure there are some outliers that have joined very niche hobby forums, but outside of that, it's essentially nothing.
There was never any hope for Mastodon, it's based too much off of Twitter's instant-gratification design for it to ever catch the attention of any smaller communities that could be formed. Like you said, why even use Mastodon if Twitter has a much larger and active userbase?
It's a great mental exercise at this point. I've been wracking my head around recently about what could be done to try and create a smaller community of users that won't be afflicted with off-site shenanigans, but the only "solutions" I've been coming up with is invite-based, which won't really help with activity levels, because really, what could a start-up site possibly offer that you can’t get elsewhere? And even then, how do you curate the userbase so it’s not filled with degenerates or aggressive users that want to police speech? It’s hard to figure out and it’s incredibly sad what the internet has become, but where there's a will there's a way, I'm sure.

Pick one
>join an art group to improve your skills
>get followers and potential clients
You won't find a place that offers both at the same time but maybe one of the two options isn't important to you.

>>4162719
>It’s hard to figure out and it’s incredibly sad what the internet has become, but where there's a will there's a way, I'm sure.
I don't know if it's just the internet. I was thinking about what pockets of content are still alive, but they're all unstable because there's always a bunch of people trying to seize control and reshape them. And they're degrading really fast as a result. Look at literature awards like Hugo. The content doesn't even matter anymore, like with contemporary art it's all about getting this or that group of people to win the awards. Less and less people do outlier activities like reading so a part of the current readers will end up disenfranchised, and another group of people with enough money to keep the entire ecosystem alive by themselves will gain a monopoly and force everyone to do as they please.
It's like consumers of media aren't happy with receiving the content anymore, they want to shape it. It's pure narcissism. This is what's making me worry about things in general, if it were just an internet problem I would be happy removing myself from it (I already did) but it seems to be a larger issue about society as a whole. It's like everyone turned into a politician. Just think about it, there was no analog to going on Twitter and reading shit random strangers say, agree with it and decide you subscribe to them, except watching a politician on TV. I can't stop thinking about the statement "you are a brand". You really are just like a corp, or a politician. There are no human beings, only people who say slogans like they're advertising themselves. This way it's impossible to have a two-way exchange between friends. You can only be a consumer or a seller.

Honestly this is the worst dystopia I've ever seen. It's a dystopia that is not imposed upon people, but that people are making for themselves.

>>4162661
>you'll never see normal people there
You don't have to spend more than 10 minutes on virtually any Mastodon instance to realize that they're populated strictly by aspies, furries, fags, trannies and other kinds of sexually aberrant urbanite eunuchs. Surprise, surprise, these people also *love* porn, so if your art isn't porn stuff, the userbase likely isn't going to care.

Tumblr may have had a lot of people and stuff like that, but there were plenty of other groups and people into other kinds of art, but who the hell knows where they all went. People scattered all over various sites.

>>4157934
Facebook is largely for an older generation. The "big with normies" thing is largely fabricated. Facebook lies about its popularity a lot.

>>4156768
Yes, forget about it.
Use twitter for getting noticed.
Use Newgrounds as your main portfolio. Or Artstation if you're SFW purist and don't feel ashamed of posting your merc_WIPs among all the pro shit.
Keeping backup portfolio on all the other platforms wouldn't hurt I guess but they're mostly shit. Hentaifoundry tolerable but forever outdated. Pixiv is for retarded weeaboo cargo-cultists. Furaffinity is a fucking hellhole of degenerates. Deviantart is a cesspool of retarded convoluted rules, mongoloid using it as a surrogate image hosting and assblasted jannies. Instagram is just shit.
Having backup gallery on all this platform wouldn't hurt but I just got tired of posting and tagging same picture multiple times.

>>4157295
Bro Pixiv has way more cringe. Japanese autism is stronger than all other autism.

You can go down a rabbit hole in pixiv because of how their search algorithm works. If you click on weird shit out of curiosity you get taken into some cursed shit.

>>4162835
All your post is missing is a fedora.

>>4162719
I know exactly what you mean. I think discord is the closest you're gonna get to old school comms because it's modeled after chat rooms. I'm in a good one (albeit not art related) that has a good 20-30 active users) I hope doesn't die out soon.

>>4162873
How do you get any artwork done with all of the time you spend dilating?

>>4162777
You’re right. I’ve actually removed myself from following media for so long that I’d actually forgotten about things like the Hugo awards, reason being because I too began to notice what you’re describing, those who with the “right” opinions, regardless of actual quality, being entered and winning awards that should have gone to much better writers. It’s been happening for multiple years now throughout various types of media: games, television, comics, you name it, it’s been tainted with what I agree with you seems to be a type of narcissism that has spread all over. However, when I talk to individuals, it seems that they’re just as unhappy with these invasions as you and I are, so it can’t possible for so many people to have turned track as easily as media is leading us to believe, and the hobbyists aren’t in control anymore either as you said. So how is this stuff happening so easily without any alternatives appearing?
I remember a time where it was faux pas to bring politics into discussions where it had no place, but lately everyone has to get a word in, it’s not as though the internet barely made that possible, so what is it that caused it? Is it because people keep merging their online life with their real one? I understand your worries, reality is essentially becoming a hedonistic nightmare, and it really does seem like everyone is always trying to sell you something, whether it be a product or a political agenda, and if an individual isn’t, you are certainly are on a platform that’ll sell your information for in exchange in using their “free” service, this site included. It doesn’t very much seem like anyone cares either, which I think worrying as well, but what can we do?

>>4162719
Mastodon is still useful for finding a community that you get along better with since the rules vary per instance. Like Baraag if you wanna post loli or shouta. You could even make your own. Though I do kinda agree about it looking a lot like twitter. If it were a bit more blog format like tumblr it might be better.

>>4157484
speaking of korean artists, why do so many of them censor their art like jap artists?
is there a censorship law in korea too?

>>4163111
>is there a censorship law in korea too?
It's even worse in S.Korea

Tumblr's only chance to come back, as I see it, is to create for-pay premium accounts and only allow adult content on those account. A reasonable subscription would be $20~$40 a year. This solves two problems:
1. Making it payable by credit/debit card only ensures only adults are posting adult content, and tying accounts to an address would dissuade illegal content.
2. The income should cover the loss of advertisers who are against adult content, and also allow the platform to remain independent and neutral on politicals.

They should also take a neutral stance on 2d loli/shota images and text (i.e. fanfics). I understand most people's problem with that stuff, but trying to figure out the age of fictional characters or enforcing a minimum chest size on women is backwards, idiotic busywork. Replace the "report" button with "mute" would end most userbase-related problems.

>>4163111
Porn is outright banned in worst Korea

>>4163193
Suddenly the popularity of all those slutty K-pop girls makes a lot more sense.

>>4162719
the problem with a lot users willing to break away from these conglomerate nightmares and setting up their own spot on the web to attract likeminded people is the constant worry of their servers and their sites get DDoS'd or hacked to hell and back by their competitors.

I recall a lot of private servers for WoW getting with a seriously bad cyber attack while Blizzard HQ went quiet a number of years back and a lot of users suspected that they were trying to shut it down to bring the numbers back.
I also think its a little strange that anytime a website with potential gets hit with a cyber attack of any kind is always a sign that sophisticated actors are making sure that they don't do the same.

It might explain why a lot of users that want to create social media hubs to break off from the big ones avoid doing it out of fear and humiliation by their peers.

"Whatcha doing there anon? Why aren't you logging on anon? Whats that? You're making your own social media website? Why? Are you trying to get away from us? Are you problematic or something?"

Its a nightmare, and it isn't out of the realm of possibility.

>>4163039
>but what can we do?
complain that things were better in the past while the world ignores us and moves on, of course

Can someone give me a detailed rundown on why livejournal died off? I may as well have been in a coma for 5 years because the internet's changed so fast and norms in fandoms then would get you ostracized now.

>>4163268
I think there's a much heavier corporate hand as well as a lot more astroturfing on the internet than it seems.
>>4163278
Interestingly, it's still popular in Russia.

>>4163039
>>4162777
I get what you guys are talking about. It's really hard to pinpoint exactly why everyone is getting ensnared in politics and purity enforcement. I'm just doing more research on this and seems it's been happening in American colleges (social sciences, psychology, the arts) for a while now, then there's social media. As personal anecdote there are several artists I follow on Twitter and over the past year, a handful of them became more political (some even extremists), and/or decided they were trans, and changed their pronouns and whatnot. For this I think education, discord and social media has a strong effect on what we're experiencing. Maybe a new US president will get people to calm down on some these things, hopefully.

>>4163289
>a handful of them became more political (some even extremists), and/or decided they were trans, and changed their pronouns and whatnot.
that's just a marketing decision

>>4163291
It...could be? But I dunno, if it is don't think it's working for them because those kind of posts get so little engagement. I think most are sincere. People only care for the art and not the artist after all.

>>4163289
I find it really infuriating that politics has become "hip" with so many of those kinds of people wheras before, they only cared about it if it was tied into their orientation and identity, not realising that the world of politics has also been a lot more corruptive and sly than what meets the eye.
Hell, none of those kinds of people had any idea what was REALLY happening politically across the world unless they were actually interested, and now that everyone is suddenly political because its cool pisses me off.

Call me a hipster or whatever, I don't give a shit, but its incredibly ironic. Wish more of these pampered-rich-sheltered pricks cared more about these sort of things when the recession hit.

What I find hilarious are all of these artists I see with Marxist/Communist shit in their Twitter bios complaining about how nobody wants to pay them for their work, or complaining about people sharing the artist's Patreon content on social media.

I guess they should've chosen a blue collar profession like carpenter, electrician, plumber, etc, instead of a bourgeois indulgence like drawing furry porn.

>>4163089
Redpill me on Mastodon. I am a /beg/ cute and funny artist (though it’s not my sole subject) that has no real place to post outside of pixiv, Baraag sounds like my cup of tea.

>>4156803
>>4157252
>>4162853
Do people even scout artists in Newgrounds?
I can understand Artstation, but what about other platforms?
I wonder if there's sites with potential to become popular or competitors

>>4163785
the media didnt want us to care, so they didnt cover it, so people didnt really know. now with internet and selfies and phone posting, things are spreading beyond the media.
maybe when the internet closes off and becomes locale internet and the social media block anyone asserting any opinions you can live in a political opinion-less world again.

>>4163278
Didn't people hate the layout change. Even though you could CSS it back to its original state I think people felt like they had no say in how the site was run. That coupled with the rumor that the Russian owners were selling users' personal information.

>>4163278
>norms in fandoms then would get you ostracized now
interesting point. i remember all the anime slash fic that used to be around.

How do we restart an artist renaissance?

>>4164474
Benevolent AI revolution leading to a post-scarcity society

>>4164493
*post artificial scarcity society

>avoiding the true answer

>>4163039
What's the anime in the webm called?

>>4156775
Why?

>>4158185
They need to update their layout.

>>4158370
The 'deviant' had nothing to do with porn.

>>4158370
>>4165288
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>>4165275
Legend of the Galactic Heroes

>>4158069
Newgrounds? More like OLDgrounds laugh my fucking ass off amirite?

>>4156785
Instagram and Twitter are the current dominators.
Patreon is where the rest of the artists went.

Tumblr is still pretty alive though. It's not like it was and there's way more competition, but it's still a very good place to post art if not for just being an easily navigatable "home page" sort of. I use mine as an alternative to a .com since I haven't wanted to build my own site yet. I like that I can let people view by tag.

>>4157934
You can also use iftt.com to automate posting to Facebook, Twitter, etc. You can upload everything to Facebook then have it autopost to Twitter, Instagram, etc.
You can do it in other orders to (ie Instagram to Facebook) but Facebook has the least quality/cropping change.

>>4158020
I've been using Tumblr since 2009 and don't look at porn.
It's better for me now lmao.

Long time blogs are still there. Tons of artists. It's not dead. Just the revolting porn is.

>>4163785
I have no words to express my distaste for selfies

>>4164056
>What I find hilarious are all of these artists I see with Marxist/Communist shit in their Twitter bios complaining about how nobody wants to pay them for their work, or complaining about people sharing the artist's Patreon content on social media.
That's just because all the politics are marketing. They're hardcore capitalists through and through.

Tumblr actually revived my accounts that were banned several years before the big purge, which just verifies for me that they keep data forever.

I have zero interest in using Tumblr again unless the people who sacked me have been sacked.

>>4165317
dude, we have to exist in a capitalist system.
it'd be nice for sure if marxists attempted to practice what they preach, but it would most likely just be a more horizontal version of capitalism, at best.
as it is now, no, people can't practice communism.
>>4164056
>art is bourgeois
nice meme retard.

>>4165334
>as it is now, no, people can't practice communism.
capitalists bend over to china all the time, is it capitalism or communism?

>>4165340
how is china relevant?

I don't know why is it only deviantart that has a problem with retards using it like a Photobucket.

>>4165369
Bc it's old as fuck. It predates stuff like imgur.