/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Porn

By drawing and painting something impressive that people would look at in awe.

>>4155092
where?

subsidiary question: what level of skill is required to make such an amount, assuming average communication skill (so no crazy trendsurfing)

sell bathwater

>>4155091

How about like 500 Euro?
That's what I would need in my country

>>4155104
you need to become a porn actor because according to /ic/ thats the only way to make some money. they don't know any better sadly

start doing crits on patreon

>>4155107
> he thinks being told to draw porn-y shit is the same as being a porn actor

>>4155091
Anime tits
>>4155093
Doesn't happen anymore, art died in the 50's. The 60's killed true art.

>>4155114
are girls on livejasmin just an models or are they working in porn? I cant tell anymore. the current year is too confusing

>>4155117
>the 60's killed true art
You mean jews anon, you mean jews.

>>4155120
I wasn't going to be so blunt but pretty much lol. If traditonal painting and actual skill qas still held up instead of some tranny doing shitty propaganda doodles on google and getting money for it along with the money laundering that is modern art art wouldn't be a joke like it is now.

>>4155104

I make that in day lol. Yes, I draw porn.

>>4155152
how and where do you get comissions?

>>4155152
unironically post your work, i'm definitely curious about your skill level.

>>4155168

>>4155160

here's how:
- reach certain skill level
- get good at pandering stylistically and thematically
- create an online persona with some branding to it
- bombard the internet with your art (insta, twitter, reddit, 4chan, hentaifoundry, tumblr, etc) post 2-3 times per day and where possible fill the autoposting queues with your art
- consistency is king
- advertise your patreon/email/website on all artworks
- before you know it you'll wake up to 2-3 commission requests every morning
- increase rates until you weed out the lowbobs and only get around 10-15 commissions per month but highly paid ones with chill clients (you'll quickly learn to spot red flags)

>>4155182
sounds like a great plan, but what level of skill does it actually requires?
If you are recognizable it means you have a certain style, even when doing realistic stuff, so that your art is identifiable.
Can you, you know, pyw, or at least someone's art you'd deem equivalent to yours as an example?

>>4155182
thanks
I don't wanna overestimate myself, but I think I am about to reach an acceptable skill level in a couple of months

>>4155187
>sounds like a great plan, but what level of skill does it actually requires?

Not a very high one. You can get by just fine with a seemingly low skill leve (think Shad).

However the meat and potatoes of the business is this: Can you grind out those commissions, whatever level they seem technically, at a fast enough pace for it to be $60+ per hour? I could probably do much more impressive art, but then my $/h would start tanking incredibly fast. So I rely on a very repeatable reliable process to crank out work and thus I'm able to pump out 2-3 commissions per day (at $150 per commission average that's a very respectable income)

>pic related is roughly my skill level.

But seriously what the art looks like doesn't matter. Shads art is complete crap but he makes a living nonetheless.

>>4155182
Wow I wonder why if it's so simple yet effective, why isn't everyone doing it

>>4155230

takes art skills, which are harder to acquire than say webdev, programming or pretty much any other skill.

>>4155224
you say 2-3 a day, and above you say 10-15 a month. Or are you a different anon?

But yes, I could do 2-3 pieces a day, everyday. It wouldn't be worth $150 a piece though, I need to get better before that. Though to be honest I could see myself reach your example's level decently fast if I focused more on rendering.
And what would be actually more time-consuming is to make the customer base. I'm bad at medias, it would be very timeconsuming, especialy at first.

>>4155182
Don't post on Reddit. Hope one of your followers posts your fanart on the respective subreddit. Doing it yourself is often against the rules and an asshole move.
Don't plaster your patreon link on everything. Everyone knows about patreon by now. Post links like that on your profile or a pinned post. Post about activities that take place on your patreon instead of simply begging for support.
Don't flood Twitter with non-art posts and reposts that won't gain any attention to begin with. It will mark your tweets as potential spam. Posting once a day with a sketch or WIP is more than enough if you have no finished art.

>>4155238

No, same anon. I can do 2-3 pieces a day but realistically if I did that many commissions every single day of the month I'd end up utterly miserable, burnt out and hating art and my life. I'm not motivated by money at all, so I'd much rather live on 25k a year and have time to do whatever I want than to make 100k a year and work my eyesight, back, wrists and shoulders into the emergency room only for big jew government to take 50% of my annual income and my materialist lifestyle feeding back into a judaized system that extracts value out of my labour via VAT and consumption taxes. There is no point in making significantly more money than one needs to get by and afford a little luxury every now and then.

>>4155224
I know this may seem like a dumb question but how do you make yourself crank out 2-3 commissions per day? I am in the same boat but I only make about $2000 a month. It usually takes me A day and a half to do one commission. What drives you/motivates you. How do you find the resolve to be that productive?

>>4155253
true, there's no need to waste your health for wealth. But you still need to plan for the future.
Considering my living style and the area I'm in, my goal would be to work for $30/h. Going above that would mean I would simply work less hours.

Keep dreaming lol.

>>4155250
This entire post is bait right?
A lot of subreddits have rules that only allow you to post your own original content to avoid theft among other things, especially when posting NSFW content and most mainstream subreddits for big game releases and whatnot encourage you to post your own art. Game companies also spend an obscene amount of time trying to scout talent off reddit and several devs have gone on record saying it's much easier and more effective to do that rather than looking through portfolios and resumes.
Do post your patreon link as much as you can because people are too lazy to read your bio, especially if they're not yet invested in your art. Don't beg for support but make sure you link it whenever it's even remotely relevant.
Posting non art is perfectly fine and the only people who give a shit are autistic smut collectors who won't support you to begin with. Reposting is also perfectly fine, especially if there's hashtags that might be related to some of your art (like japanese tummy hashtags that pop up often). RTing yourself may also show new lazy followers more of your work. People do it all the time, some people do it every day. If you post often, people will relate to you as a person rather than an art bot and on social media that's very important for a lot of people. Just try not to be the type that only posts gacha screenshots all day.

>>4155091
>how can I make 6000€ monthly by drawing and painting?
By making around 12k euro and paying up to 50%, depending on the EU country you reside, in wage taxes.
THERE
Now you've got ~6k euro.

>>4155316
>paying up to 50%, depending on the EU country you reside, in wage taxes.
what is this bullshit? how is this legal? why shoul I give up 50% of my income?

>>4155323
Let me tell you how it will be
It's one for you, nineteen for me
cause I'm the taxman. Yeah, the taaaaxmaaaan.

The beatles were taxed so high (up to 95%), they made a song about it

>>4155326
how is this possible?

>>4155323
A lot of costs are misleading when you consider what you get in return. For example if you pay for health insurance, or have it included in taxes, the tax numbers are very different but what you pay in reality isn't.

>>4155398
sweet sweet (kind of) free healthcare

>>4155398
>tfw 400€ a month just to visit the dentist twice a year

>>4155112
interesting. how doest it works?

>>4155287
ngmi lol

>>4155316
Who pays tf 50% in taxes?
>>4155326
Same here, 19% income tax
>>4155434
73€ a month in Boland

>>4155091
painting is fucking great, as a hobby
but if you're focused on making money (nothing wrong with that) you better choose any other trade: a few people got rich with art, but statistically is very improbable you will

>>4155572
I heard an interview with someone who has a patreon and she recommends against crits and any form of a personalized service as it would take more time than it was worth. She ended up having just a simple $5 tier

>>4155091
Live somewhere cheap, never make enough money to have to pay taxes, only buy cigarettes, apples, potatoes, coffee, and toothpaste, only accept cash for your artwork, convert it to gold, and bury it in a public park near where you live.

Do this until you die, and never have children.

>>4155668
Private health insurance? They will try to get rid of you as soon as you are old and actually need their help.

>>4155697
>buy gold

also never listen to other artists what to do with money

>>4155091
Paint modern art for money launderers.

>>4155323
>how is this legal?
Because the people who take your money are the ones to decide whether or not it's legal

>>4155697
>Do this until you die
what is gonna hapend with all that gold after I die? doesnt make any sence gramps

Paint murals for Banks and freemasons

>>4155091
I make that much and I'm a professional. Good luck trying to achieve this from freelance without being professional level.

>how can i make x money off of my work
Find a buyer.