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4146556 No.4146556 [Reply] [Original]

Is it possible today to become a successful artist in the likes of Pierre Joubert? He primarily painted borderline lewd young boys.

>> No.4146568

>>4146556
what do you think dude.
i get that straight weeb pedophilia is what's trendy now but still.

>> No.4146573

>>4146568
I am an autistic neet who doesn't socialize in the real world, so I really don't know what I should think.

>> No.4146582

>>4146556
Yes and No. Stay in the proffesinal field, don't make insta and twitter your bread and butter, you'll get along as 'that weird dude'. Dont make it to overtly pedo and stay away from those who want to hang pedos or go full 'I hate pedo to cover up I'm pedo'. Also the "it's just a drawing" crowd will not save your ass this time because they also cross over with the "boys being asulted by their teacher isn't taken serously crowd". They will fucking turn on you

>> No.4146590
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>>4146582
I don't even know how to break into the professional field. I don't post my art anywhere due to the autism and the stigma.
I assume that if I have low social engagement people will be less inclined to go after me. If I'm just an art posting robot that doesn't talk to anyone outside of a strictly professional setting.

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>>4146590
What's your skill level? What sort of stuff are you drawing? Illustrations? Porn?

>> No.4146646

Just don't publish your work in the USA or upload to platforms that has option for english readers. Americans will jail even though you're outside USA jurisdiction.

>> No.4146879
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4146879

>>4146644
Decent draftsman, not so good at rendering but working on it. Working on both, doubtful if I'll publish the latter.
>>4146646
It's legal in the U.S, and I don't know any other language besides English. Hypothetically though, which nationality would be best to publish my work under?,

>> No.4146918

>>4146556
as long as it is faggot gay homosexuality, pc culture will support your degeneracy
in the other hand, drawing wholesome sexy young girls will get you ostracized, #metoo'ed, incarcerated, and executed

>> No.4146929

You might find a cool place where the people gonna enjoye your artwork....somewhere ont the EST part of germany

>> No.4146934

>>4146918
I don't see it as homosexual. Also, I think it's easier to draw young women in semi lewd scenarios, because it already seems to natural. I don't think you'd have a problem unless it's extremely gratuitous, but even then, as long as they are sexually developed most won't think twice about it.

>> No.4146938

>>4146918
>in the other hand, drawing wholesome sexy young girls will get you ostracized, #metoo'ed, incarcerated, and executed
understandably

>> No.4147023

>>4146556
I have thought the same thing about his work. But he has a body of work of other big enough to allow for plausible deniability, and the skill to back it up. He was a very productive and accomplished illustrator of fantasy and history. It's like with KJG - if he didn't have the unreal draftsmanship his subject matter would make him a huge creep.

>> No.4147032

>>4146556
>>4146590
They look like girls

>> No.4147033
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4147033

>>4146556
Why the French artists are so good at drawing shota?

>> No.4147034

>>4146590
>>4147032
they look like bbc's girls

>> No.4147043

>>4146573
>autistic
>successful artist
Pick one, retard.

>> No.4147049

>>4147033
their women are so unappealing they all became gay hebephiles

>> No.4147054

>>4146556
shirtless in todays climate is gonna getcha skin cancer.

>> No.4147192

>>4147033
We believe little boys makes the best girls.

>> No.4147196

>>4147033
we're just better artists in general. Deal with it.

>> No.4147213

>>4147192
>>4147196
Teach me to speak French so I too can become a true degenerate boyphile.

>> No.4147215

Considering that gay men are kinda a protected class you will do fine. You will become untouchable if you are not white.

>> No.4147216

>>4147213
Don't worry, you can be a degenerate without speaking French but it help indeed. Start with the movie "Mon copain rachid" for the basics.

>> No.4147221

>>4147216
Merci

>> No.4147222

>>4147196
Is that why all the classical artists that even the most brain dead retard can name are all Italian?

>> No.4147261

>>4147215
I'm not a gay man, am I protected?

>> No.4147471

>>4146556
just join the fucking scouts

>> No.4147599

>>4147222
no, that's because some turtles were named after them.
Most normies can't name a single classical artist beside Da Vinci

>> No.4147607

>>4146918
>>4147215
this, obv

>> No.4147609

>>4146556
it's the current year
the younger the subject matter and depiction of degeneracy the more fame, money and adoration you'll get

>> No.4147645

>>4147607
I'm not a homosexual man, I'm a woman. What does this mean? Am I more or less protected?

>> No.4147666

>>4147645
tune up on your japanese then, because you appear to be a shota oriented fujoshi.

>> No.4147700

>>4147609
i wish. girls under 18 are completely haram nowadays. even 18 ones are pedo territory for brainwashed normies
>>4147645
women are higher class than straight men. slightly lower than homos
anyway, erotic depictions of males are clearly gay, because male sexuality is much more visual oriented than female. porn is 99% a male thing

>> No.4147725

>>4146590
>I don't even know how to break into the professional field
go to art classes or ateliers. go regularly. go to art exhibitions. kiss asses. cross your fingers and pray that somebody whose ass you kissed is somebody important in the local art scene. kiss more ass. kiss ass until your lips swell. you can get away with pedo paintings if you make the right connections. eventually jelly fags will tear you down for it but hopefully you make bank before that happens.

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>>4147215
>>4147645
>I'm a woman
Same. I love drawing /ss/. Sexy onee-chan gently bullying cute shota into submission is one of my many guilty pleasures of drawing, same with younger men and Hot milf combo. But I'm terrified to share my art anywhere, since you never know how it can backfire on you in the future and I believe even my female ''privileges'' won't make people overlook my art this time.
But I want to find like-minded people and possible friendship with people who share a common interest with Hot Milf bullying young men into complete submission. Such Dilemma and for people who tell me to sought out an Japanese audience, my moons runs aren't good enough to fake a nippon persona. I just want to draw my /ss/ comics and make a living out of it, but I don't want it to possible ruin any job opportunists that may pop up in the future. What to do.

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>>4147769
Befriend me and we can learn Japanese together and start our own doujin circle.

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>>4147783
>>4147769
Don't worry ladies you are gmi! Never give up!

>> No.4147823

>>4147769
>tfw can't even enjoy popular pairings anymore because they're under 18 without someone going ewyucks pedo
I know that feel femanon. Sadly it's all downhill from here and as much as I'd like to learn nip I don't have all the desire to consume their content other than unstranslated doujin.

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>>4147783
>I see, you're a person of culture like myself.
Let this be the beginning of a beautiful friendship, my fellow degenerate.
What should we call our circle?

>> No.4147843

>>4147827
A perfect circle. Just kidding I don't know, with names I think about them for days. It's such a commitment.

>> No.4147852

>>4147769
Sauce me

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4147900

>>4147843
Ah, well, the name isn't what's important atm, that can be figured out later.
What's important is to put out some quality ss to bless this cursed world, my fren!
>>4147852
Onna Kyoushi no Hisoka na Netorare Ganbou

>> No.4147913

>>4147900
You sound like we'd get along very well, I really do want to be your friend.

>> No.4147938
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>>4147913
Then let's embark on this magical world of bullying shotas together!
How we do it, tho? Discord or any other platform we can interact on?

>> No.4147949

>>4147938
I'm helplessly falling asleep so I can't make a throwaway email right now. If this thread is still up tomorrow I'll post one, or you can post one yourself and we can go from there.

>> No.4147972
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4147972

>>4146556
Damn, he's like the retro version of JJ frenchie. I like joubert's work, it's innocent, sensual, and beautiful. The boys kind of look too much like girls though. Their skins are also too glossy, which takes away from the boyishness that distinguishes boys from girls.

I think you can become successful drawing things like this, all things are possible. It just depends on how you will pull it off. Obviously don't go the JJ frenchie route where you draw full blown out jack off material, but focus more on the activities of the boys and how aesthetic they look doing them.

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>>4147949
I'm back home after pulling an all nighter at work, so there might be a potential I wont respond immediately due from fainting on couch.
But I've seen you've yet posted a throw away email account, So I set one up myself just now:
trashaccount9999@yahoo.com
So contact me there when you wanna start our shota doujin quest to be the very best there ever was.
Fair warning though, drawing shota aint my only guilty pleasure. I'm also a filthy Teratophila and Xenoplia artist too and I also LOVE drawing manly muscle men who will inevitably always end up bottom since I like the woman on top, that just how I prefer my fiction and much more, let say I have a huge pallet of things I like to draw. So If you can stand my autism then, let get acquaintance.

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>>4147645
>>4147769
being a woman is basically the same as being retarded so you aren't considered liable for anything you do

>> No.4148528

>>4148521
This only apply for pretty women though.

>> No.4149236
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4149236

god i wish i were a little boy

>> No.4149447

>>4148517
Sent.

>> No.4149785
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>>4147645
Invulnerable. Basically if you start doing it you will become encouraged to keep at it while recieving praise non stop and soon enough become viral. If you are a man and start doing this you immediately label yourself as a pariah on top of a non stop witch hunt on your ass which actively tries to destroy your life at every step. You girls have it insanely easy.

>> No.4149795

>>4149785
Maybe if I were japanese.
I don't see most men caring if a woman makes erotic art of boys, but other women will definitely have a problem with it. I've seen it happen in plenty of fandoms before.
I see japanese women posting shota on twitter all the time and saying provocative things about little boys and nothing happens. Man, I wish I was born in Japan.

>> No.4149805

>>4149236
how so?

>> No.4149935

Besides Joubert and Jurion Joel, who are some other good boy artists?

>> No.4149938

>>4149785
sad but true

>> No.4149950

>>4149938
Why sad?

>> No.4150024
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>>4146556
I think you should shoot yourself because the world doesn't need any more of your degeneracy. You fujo are annoying as hell and disgusting.
t. barafag girl

>> No.4150029

>>4150024
Never had a problem with homosexual men who like bara. However, most fujoshi are bitter cunts who dedicate half of their time trying to one-up other women by being one of "the good fujos" by not liking what X fujos like. Other half of their time is spent jerking off.

Didn't your mom ever tell you to keep quiet when you don't have anything nice or productive to say?

>> No.4150036

>>4147700
porn is only a "male thing" because western prudes completely failed to create porn that is appealing to women, unlike nips

>> No.4150045

>>4150029
I don't give a fuck about the gays nor do I care to appeal or protect them like fujos pretend to do. Also this is a critique board. Go to discord to get asspats from other degenerates, I'm sure you'll find plenty of agps wannabe kiddy-diddlers like you

>> No.4150048

>>4150045
Every assumption you made about me is wrong.

>> No.4150182
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>>4146556
>>4146590
This shit should be outlawed what the fuck

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>>4150182
I don't see the problem.

>> No.4150197

>>4150196
I was joking, but honestly, I can't believe they didn't knew what they were doing. Truth be told seeing them makes me more jelly than actually horny. I miss being young, and I'm not even old.

>> No.4150203

>>4150197
All artists are horny. All artists see beauty in different forms, some of which prefer the male form.

>> No.4150205

>>4150203
I'm more talking about the age range they choose to pick, not that it bothers me in the slightest. What bothers me is the continuous hypocrisy that society in general spins around the issue. God helps us all.

>> No.4150209

>>4150205
Elaborate on this hypocrisy.

>> No.4150210

>>4150205
looks like a boys annual cover to me, they tend to have the target audience portrayed on the cover, same as girls ones.

>> No.4150252

>>4150209
It's something normal, finding teens up from the cusp of puberty pretty, the last stats I saw on this shows that the majority of men prefer girls at the age of 14, so it must be similar for those interested in guys. Which is right around the time when MOST people start becoming sexually aware. What do we do? We vilify something natural on both sides, which prevents an actual discussion on what is healthy or not, the result is that good intentioned people just repress while ill intentioned do what they always did. And the kids substitute human interaction with the internet. It's just a sorry state of business.

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>>4147769
Ah, I see you're a woman of taste as well.
I feel you. I want to draw /ss/ shit but I know if people learned I did I would get torn apart by an internet mob. I do mainly sfw and have aspirations of getting stuff published so I can't risk having my reputation be completely ruined.
People are even touchy about having any character under 18 be lewded, I've had people leer at me just for drawing ship art of teenage characters aged up.
>>4148517
Would it be alright if I emailed you too?

>> No.4150292

>>4150278
Talk to me as well if you'd like
p.yer@tutanota.com

>> No.4150311

>>4150252
I know exactly what you mean, anon. Just create what you find beautiful and fuck the haters. The old masters didn't care.

>> No.4150320

>>4150024
>Laughs at you in Bara and Shota.
Why only pick one thing when you can be both a barafangirl AND shotafangirl!!! FEAR ME! I'm the superior Race!
>fujo
That some prejudice you have going on there. Personally I never been into the whole yaoi phenomenon, but have nothing against those who enjoy that particular content. You can be a bara/shotafag and not be into yaoi you know. If I really must force a label on myself I'd fall into the otomefag category.
>>4150045
>kiddy-diddlers
Madame! what are you doing. Why are you mixing superior 2D with real gross humans.

>> No.4150335

>>4150278
>Get torn apart by an internet mob and having my reputation ruined.
God, do I feel you. Though I don't think I'm that popular atm for people to actually go after me, But If I do one day land a job in a bigger company like pixar/disney (I can dream okay) or any other network. I don't want any past artwork to come a bite me in the back. Since with each passing year, what is redeemed okay to draw or not, seem to be at a constant state of changing. So you never know when or what the next with hunt will be.
>I've had people leer at me for drawing ship art of teenage characters aged up.
Are you me? I've had this EXACT shit constantly thrown at me. Like what logic are these people going by, you can clearly see I've drawn these character as fully adult people, but since the original character is still 14 in canon, it's pedo and I'm just, m8 wot???
>Would it be alright if I emailed you too?
Sure my fellow solider of degeneracy the more the merrier! I welcome you!

>> No.4150364

fags. all of you

>> No.4150367

>>4150364
This is a girl's thread, stinky boys get out.

>> No.4150397

I bet this thread is full of trannies pretending to be women

>> No.4151231

Dang, those are some really cute boys. Based frogs.

>> No.4151238

>>4147599
>Most normies can't name a single classical artist beside Da Vinci
I mean... do they need to?

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>>4150397
I guarantee you it's filled with trannies and other mentally ill degenerates

>> No.4151261

>>4150367
based if true

>> No.4151263

>>4151258
insecure amerifat boomer detected

>> No.4151267

>>4150335
>I would get torn apart by an internet mob
That only happens to men. You're safe

>> No.4151709

>>4150397
Kek

>> No.4151718

>>4151238
Fair point.

On another note, I'm envious of all those chill ladies in the thread. I wished we could have that kind of conversation too amongst loli lovers, but our threads get nuked when they become too close to being productive...

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>>4146918
You can’t #metoo cancel me
I’m 1 fucking dude and never raped anyone.
They already tried doxxing me and calling my dad
All he did was say was
“I know my son pretty well he’s always dated short girls his 1st girlfriend was 4’11”
And the most based of all
“I can’t stand men in dresses. Ya’ll are men why are you acting like females?You ain’t females”

Man it’s feels so good to have a black dad that doesn’t give a shit about social justice.

>> No.4151729

>>4150205
The hypocrisy is real.
It’s the same “This art is shocking and has no artist value” meanwhile they are the people actually raping real children like that one U.N. Director that was found guilty of 6 counts of Statutory rape.

>> No.4151731

>>4150335
Internet mods are completely retarded.
Honestly just never apologize or just openly mock them.
There’s no such thing as bad publicity

>> No.4151750
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4151750

speaking of little boys, who drew this? I dont like the questionable content but the style, wow...

>> No.4151805

>>4151267
I noticed that hotglossed drew quite a few lewds of underaged boys, and the one girl he drew is what recently got him in trouble.
I think sexualizing males in itself is a barrier already. Being a female on top of that certainly would help.

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>>4151267
>>4151731
>There no such thing at bad publicity
While true. I wouldn't personally care if a internet mob were to go after me, since I would just either ignore or mock them, depending on the context.
But what really makes me hesitate to share shota art is the possibilities of it, affecting my job or any future career paths within the art/animation industry. In worst case scenario, I don't want to one day get called in by my boss only for Him/her to show my secret nsfw blog on their computer screen and then demand me to hand in my registration and get blacklisted from the industry.
I can't be the only who worries about this specifically?

>> No.4152035

>>4151750
that is really good

>> No.4152130

>>4151750
It looks like it might be more of an expression of trauma then something to be desired. It feels dark and empathetic.

>> No.4152177

>>4146590
I thought it was just boys climbing a tree from the thumbnail, "well this looks wholesome"

The reality is not so modest. What is going on there? Are they tying the kids up for a sacrifice?

>> No.4152204

>>4147769
How is younger man and milf mob-worthy though? 'Younger man' means he's legal and the pairing could mean something like a 24 year old male and a 35 year old milf, for instance. Maybe I'm out of touch but how is that a problem? I think if you stuck to that and had characters who hadn't known each other since the guy was underage and you would be alright just stay away from underage characters.

>> No.4152265

>>4152015
Are those drawing yours? They're quite good

Anyway:
solution 1: look at your boss and say, "wow, you found my secret, UNDERAGE PORN? I wonder who browses UNDERAGE PORN sites, is that you?" loud enough for everyone to hear.

Solution 2: Collab. Make the lines, have someone else color them. "Are you kidding, that's not my coloring style at all". That's enough to throw most people off track.

>> No.4152325

>>4151750
I know this fuck, used to follow him on insta
some russian (or easter euro artist) if that helps

>> No.4152351

>>4152177
They're building a ladder

>> No.4152412

>>4151750
https://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=3311012

>> No.4152791

>>4152412
Yikes I dont like the gay, but the art is good. Thanks

>> No.4153037

>>4152412
incorrect anon

>> No.4154557

>>4153037
no thats him

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4154591

>>4152412
>https://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=3311012

god i wish that were me

>> No.4154598

>>4154591
This art is beautiful but I wish these boys were being treated nicer :(

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>>4154598
yeah I was thinking the same thing like what did you go through to come up with this shit? You wanna talk, buddy?

>> No.4155150

>>4154598
nice is for cuddling
>>4155055
>what did you go through to come up with this shit?
pretty much exactly what you think ;_;

>> No.4156066

>>4154591
>https://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=3311012
I'm legit convinced the better an artist is the more horrific and disturbing their art becomes.

>> No.4156117

>>4152130
>>4155150
K I am sad now.

>>4156066
I dont agree, it depends what kind of artist you're looking for. But as said, suffering makes great art

>> No.4156940

>>4154591
this guys art is like the epitome of everything I hate. Gay pedo rape shit, the fuck.

>> No.4157479

>>4154591
no. cute anime boys are for being treated nicely and being loved. I don't like this

>> No.4158757

>>4154591
damn this is so well done but... the content...