/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>I'm not talented

>i make my own thread when there is already a /vent/ general

>Time for a mental health break
>I have art block. No art today
>burn out takiny a break.
Taking time off is good, but burnout is one of those "you don't know it till you have it" type things so a lot of beginer artists thing being frustrated with art is burnout that requiring a day off and self care while what they probally need is just a 10 minite breather.

>>4121452
>my style is not original enough so I just stop
>copying from references is not allowed
>I need a girlfriend or else I am depressed and can't draw

>why do I bother drawing when there are so many better artists around

then I remember I do it because I enjoy it and that's good enough

>I've made it

>i'm too old

> likes matter

>>4121480
>i need to be depressed to draw

>I'll wait until I have a good idea.

>>4121452
I need to buy X first

>>4121452
>I'm so unproductive
>draws 3+ pics a day
Basically attention seekers

>>4121452
>I need to buy X art supply first

>>4121744
>I need life experiences to inspire my creative process in order to draw

>>4121530
If only validation wasn't oone of the biggest motivators

>>4121779
>Only 3 pics a day

>>4121791
Each one of your gestures doesn't count as one each. Or at all, for that matter

>>4121793
>>4121779
Honestly you just sounds a little crabby that other people have higher expectations of themselves than you

>>4121452
>reading up on every single tiny facet of art from how to hold my pencil to how draw from imagination will make my drawings better without any mileage required

90% of this goddamn board i swear

>>4121789
tfw dont care if others tell me they like what I draw since im not satisfied with it myself, even getting a hundred likes or whatever doesnt feel like much of an accomplishment when im thinking "no this is bad whats wrong with you people"

The biggest and most destructive lie of them all:
Beauty is subjective

>>4121794
For the contradictory unproductive thing it isn't crabby, it's real and doesn't just apply to art or productivity. It's a ploy to make them appear better than what they let themselves on to be so they feel good about themselves. A kid I knew in HS did this for his grades treating B's as F's nonchalantly almost smug. He used it to boost himself whenever the rare chance he had something that just wasn't an A+ towards anyone who'd think a B-A as fairly good enough. He never broke down over it, was an overachiever, or had parents that beat him over grades.

>>4121454
>thinks he's not talented
>tries harder to make up for it, takes as much information as he can, open to criticism at all times
>thinks he's talented
>doesn't do shit, thinks he's "above" everything, shields himself from criticism
You got it wrong, anon. "I am talented" is the self-limiting one.

>I can't think of anything good/worth drawing.

Video course thread is archived, so I can't improve

>>4121452
>too old to reach where i want
>unfocused
>believe my "skill" is just 50/50 luck having no control
>self deprecate myself
>simple doodles can range from 5-30 mins or more
>everyone makes art look easier than when i do it
>sleep too late, wake up too late, and sleep too little
>creativity barely pops in
>unproductive from all the above

>>4121452
>I'm only nine years old

>>4121452
>Can't focus for long amounts of time
How do I get better at this? I always end up frustrated or bored

>>4121452
I'll finish this tomorrow.

>>4121452
I wish the days were longer so I could draw more

>if I have to spend so much time and effort to learn art I would be better spending that effort learning something useful.

>im too old to start

me rn, its so hard to not believe this when everyone that says this start when they were young. ive yet to see some great art of people that started when they were like 25-30

>>4121490
that's until someone says your art is fucking shit

>>4126926
if you look at any motivational article like "great artists who started late", it's all abstract artists and Van Gogh kek
you can make impressive work if you start late but all the cases I've seen used photobash and 3D, I think to gain fundamental drawing skills you need to start early, it's too much mileage otherwise. And I think talent matters too since some people just have a better grasp of volume.

>>4126936
yep if you are 25 and starting you are ngmi

>i only can draw when i'm high

>>4122071
That's pretty legitimate IMO
I mean, if there's nothing you want to draw, then there's nothing you want to draw. You should look for something of course, because you want to be drawing, but sometimes you might not have anything to express. And if you're drawing something without any kind of self expression, then would you even bother calling that art?

>I need some inspiration

>>4126953
yep not with that weak mentality

>>4126926
work harder

>>4129648
ok pyw

>>4126929
then you tell them to post work, and laugh when they don't.

>>4126936
When would you say is the cutoff point then?

>>4122043
There's two sides to that.
>"I'm not talented, so what's the point if I can't make great work?"
>hide away and give up
>"Talent is cheap, so it doesn't matter if I have it or don't. You can only make great work through great sacrifice."
>stay optimistic and maintain a growth mindset
You shouldn't think of yourself as not being talented so you'll work harder, because you'll acquire the skills you want, but there'll always be a cloud of doubt over you that you're just pretending, and you never know when the pressure will get to you everything will collapse. Instead, believe the truth; everyone has some sort of advantage when they enter art, and while some people progress faster and earlier than others, any given individual's path is wildly different than another, and as long as they stay persistent and keep making work, they're on the right track and that's fulfilling enough. As long as you still know what you like and don't like, and you firmly believe how you are now isn't forever and can change, you'll make it with a little sweat, blood, and tears.

>>4129842
When I started

>>4129942
Don't be hard on yourself anon.