/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>4120420
/clears throat
"hamptom draws disgusting frog people with beanbags for torsos. it's fucking vile. it's the worst thing I've ever seen. I cannot stand to look at the page i want to vomit"

I draw disgusting frog people with beanbags for torsos. It's fucking vile. It's the worst thing I've ever seen: I cannot stand to look at the page; I want to vomit.

>>4120420
NO GOD PLEASE NO. NOT THIS IMAGE AGAIN.CURSED.

Am I doing this right?

>>4120428
>>4120420

Please someone please tell me who the artist is, I must see more or I’ll kill myself

And I can’t fucking read the signature in the corner

>>4120477
I know the eyes look small, but don't tilted objects get shorter?
How do you keep those forms on-model when tilting them in a way that the "eyes sit midway through the head" stuff ends up being thrown out?
Not the whole thing is thrown out, but you rely on the axis more than "where does this shape* sit on this head."

*I'd say form but that implies that [for the eyes on Doraemon, for example] the shape will always be at the top of the head, which is incorrect on harsh tilts.

>>4120488
someone from ic but he was laughted to death when he posted that

>>4120420

>>4120499
Just finished this. Fudged the anatomy but I wanted to focus on rendering.

Pic related is reference.

g-guys... which thread do we use...

>>4120308
Late response, but thanks for the advice anon.

Also, >I drew out the linear indication of the delt way too far

You mean the deltoid should be closer to the neck, right? Just want to be sure I understand fully. Pic related is the drawing in question.

>>4120499
c u t e, I also really love the lighting done on the bathing suit, makes it feel like it's summer

>>4120509

>>4120511
explain this. these are alien cat people? do you have lore for this?

>>4120507
the line that shows the lower end of your deltoid anon, the half-erased one. it goes way too far and too low
on the new hand, that much of the palm shouldn't be visible, i'd check it against the ref again

>>4120517
lol nobody asks these kinds of questions here you samefag, just post your cringe ass lore you don't need an excuse it's all good here

>>4120525
not samefag. i thought it was from a movie or something. they look goofy as hell so i was interested.
chill

>>4120525
naw hes just spamming this thread to anker the other /beg/ thread like the child he is.

>>4120537
seething

>>4120517
bet he just lack of bodycolor pencils and no lore involved

>>4120509
Ears are too low.
>>4120511
Ears are too high.

>>4120549
a brother chooses to make a catgirl green rather than leaving her the colour of the page. you're probably right though.

There are 5 alien races featured in the novel I'm writing. I'm unashamedly ripping off James Cameron's idea of just mixing human and animal qualities and having them all be the same weird color, which is OK because he ripped off Dances with Wolves.

>>4120597
kys blognigger

>>4120618
come kill me bro

>>4120643
i'll seduce you to death

>>4120509
This supposed to be some Xavier Renegade Angel fanfiction fanart or something?

>>4120668
that's a complicated question. depends on what you mean by fanart. I believe that the existence on my drawing implies to some degree that there are artists larger than me. the very notion of art itself can be rhetorically whittled to the bare knob of it's meaning. I would like to talk to you a lot more about this, would you be interested in reading some of my fanfiction?

>>4120422
Based

>>4120477
more attempts

How do I learn to render like this?
this exact style

>>4120727
based 3D-CHAD, the ears in the top right looks off the right ear is too big

whats wrong with me?

>>4120731
Hope it helps

>>4120748
I think you're crazy

>>4120758
wym

>>4120760
how so?

>>4120727
This makes me want a new Felix cartoon like Twisted Tales.

>>4120780
you're also lazy

>>4120695
fucking nice

>>4120731
Just ask Kyle. He actually answers you if you do. I did before and the answer I got was forgotten, but basically practice.

>>4120494
Is it unironic? No way

Hello, guys. I am preparing to do a drawing which has hands in it, so I drew some hands. What do you think?

How do I not focus on the contour of what I am drawing? I keep hearing that you don't want to focus on the contours, does that only count for gesture? Am I over thinking this?

Do you have any general tips on how to be drawing hands so they don't look grotesque?

this is the most retarded thread i've ever seen. literally spammed by op to anker real /beg/ thread.

>inb4 seething

dude go to bed

I'm looking to get a new screen tablet, does anyone have a good tablet guide?

>>4121016
Tape paper on your screen

>>4121016
go fucking search one up brainlet.

>>4120998
No one ever says to not focus on the contour. What they mean is to come up with the contours through form, not by copying the lines you see in the reference.

>>4121002
you posted that already faggot. no one cares

>>4121022
eat shit nig

>>4121021
>What they mean is to come up with the contours through form, not by copying the lines you see in the reference.
Am I doing it right?

I am starting to draw women bodies. Random elf girl I drew

>>4120998
afaik you don't focus on contours when drawing gestures, but when doing a study it's encouraged.
You move on to simplifying your studies when you get the hang of it

>>4121031
I see you hiding those hands, anon.
Stop that right now or it'll become a habit and you will never learn to draw hands.

>>4120499
I don't think this is /beg/

hands practice from head
2 looks like from an alien
4 is fucked in every way
and 6 is just off between the fingers

>>4121031
If you're gonna give your character black clothes or something so dark that it's almost indistinguishable, it's probably not a good idea to make the background the same value.
You're loosing a significant part of the figure to the background.

>>4121406
It's time for you to start thinking in 3d volumes, not 2d cardboard cutouts. Go subscribe to NMA and take Vilppu's course on figure drawing.

>>4120960
HE CAN TALK ?

>>4120420
thoughts on this? Definitely messed up the perspective somewhere

>>4121515
colored version

>>4121470
I can sing!

i know it's messy.
generally i do not paint and i reached the point where i was essentially just painting over sections and then redoing it with the same level of detail -- spinning my wheels.

i tried growing up a loli that someone posted in a reference thread on ic.

Sorry

>>4121515

.>muh boi

>>4121515
>>4121592
Pretty hawt desu. I'd say, from a /beg/inner autist, you should continue to work on eyes and hands

Where do you guys go to get your references?
Specifically looking for male references as it feels like every single high resolution picture I can find is of a scantily clad girl?

>>4121637
lol

>>4120731
tracing too hard for you?

>>4120420
I can't into texture drawing.

The only thing I sort of understand it's 50% about how it reflects light and about it sort of pops out around edges, but I fail already at 6A exercise in keys of drawing (the 2 contrasting textures).

I can't get into textures for months, already. Help me, please.

got my first commission request today but it sounds like it could get me in big trouble. Guy wants a Spider-Man but I heard about how Disney is about this stuff, suing people and shit.

My understanding of the commission process is:

advertising commissions (a blank canvas) and having someone pay me to draw something (Spider-Man) = not illegal, I'm being paid for a service

advertising a picture of Spider-Man I already drew and trying to profit off it = illegal, copyright infringement

is this right? I live in the united states

>>4121592
>>4121515
Hi here is my redline attempt.I think the ratio between the arms and the torso is a bit skewed, I would make the torso and the body bigger in general and the arm slightly.

When drawing hands becomes fun and easy ?

What's a good way to practice proportions?

>>4121717
you rock dude, thank you!

>>4121869
probably gesture drawing.
you should learn the correct proportions from a book or whatever you want to use first, but that's only the theory, it's hard to get it right without some practice, and that's where gesture drawings come in.
since gesture drawings only take between 30 seconds and 2 minutes, you can do a ton of them in a relatively short amount of time and after a while you'll notice that the proportions just kinda start to "click" without you even having to think about it.

Just did this to pass time, how bad am i?

>>4122081
Don't use lined paper, regardless of your art level, having a flat grid behind the image makes it actively more difficult to trick your mind into seeing the picture in 3 dimensions.

>>4120731
What program do you use?

If you use photoshop like I do, then you need to learn about using the color picker an using the "flow" function in whatever brush it is youre using.

You can get the same results if you utilize the flow option.

>>4121758
You need to isolate drawings of body parts to get good at them. The proportions on the arm/ hand are wrong, and so is the length of neck.
Her right arm is kinda fucked too.

>>4122091
I didn't know about that, i just pick whatever i have on hand. Where can i learn about that? (I'm not trying to sound like a dick, i really want to know)

Fun with beenz.

Figure drawing first or loomis first? or about when should i start figure drawing?

havent drawn in a while

>>4122122
You need to study perspective, and form. Take Marshal Vandruff's perspective course, and Peter Han's dynamic sketching.
Learn to draw 3d objects from the ground up. Perfect spheres, cubes, cones, cylinders, pyramids, and organic solids in a 3d space with correct perspective.
Practice making them, then pushing them together to make irregular hybrids that stay consistent and true to the rules of perspective until you can imagine an abstract shape, or see an irregular object and draw it out of the fundamental building block 3d shapes.
Then draw everything that's infront of you using the techniques you've learned everyday for the rest of your life. In 5 to 10 years, you'll look like a real pro, in 15-25 you'll actually be one, in 30-35 you'll be a master.

>>4122024
Use simple lines. C, S, and I lines.

Practice drawing with 3-dimensional shapes. Remember that each form has a direction in space. You can only truly draw the figure once you understand 3-d form. But once you understand 3-d form you can immediately draw the figure. It works both ways. Drawing the figure with geometric forms is the best way to learn to draw the figure.

Problems with your figure
1. Complicated and random lines where simple lines would've sufficed
2. No clear forms. Always ask yourself, "am i drawing a cube, sphere, or cylinder?"
3. No direction in space. Your forms lay flat on the paper. Nothing is coming towards us or away from us.

The rest of your problems with clear up once you understand form. Always think form.

>>4122114
Thanks for the feedback, i'll try better next time.

>>4122219

>>4122219
>/beg/ redlining /beg/

lol

>>4122257
>>4122268
redline it crabs

>>4122257
>>4122268
not him but i'll bite, crab-kun.
while i've got some criticisms about his picture mainly being the oversimplification of the limbs flattening out the perspective (ex. making her left leg appear way more 3/4/profile) and the exaggeration of the gesture making the figure appear unbalanced, the dude has undoubtedly got good line control, understands appeal and has a good sense of form.
Anyone who knows something you don't can teach you something
so pyw asshole

>>4122294
also im willing to bet whatever flaws i noted in the picture were probably due to it being a quick slap and dash to help a /beg/

been trying to draw chest. How is it

>>4122294
they might be crabs but you're a newfag. making fun of redlines is the oldest meme in /beg/

>>4122310
Being a crab faggot shitposter is not a meme, it's just shitposting you piece of newfag trash.

>>4122318
SEETHING

>>4122319
Keep up the newfag memes, newfag.

>>4122182
Thanks anon

>>4122304
I see someone's shadow~

>>4120960
explain?

>>4122360
Not raggin on anon but I really hate trying to take pictures of my drawing with my phone and the shadow keeps getting in the way. I'd stop being lazy and scan my stuff but I mostly draw digitally lmao

>>4122288
>>4122294
disgruntled mexican poster
Sorry I'm not good on this shitty ass napkin square of a tablet but I'm in /beg/ for a reason

>>4122383
ah fuck i made the back leg too short and the arm looks weird
too many curves torso is too short
i fucking hate drawing on this tablet goddammit

>>4122388
heh, blaming on the tools are we

>>4122390
Yes I am blaming it on the tools you retard
I cannot get full range of motion on this tiny intuos screen
My paper drawings are usually much better

>>4122401
lmao it's the tools fault huh

>>4122383
don't ignore the side planes when drawing the ribs and hips. It's just not good practice. As a result, the center-line on the right drawing isn't quite in the right place

>>4122406
please understand. his tablet is too small he had to make some compromise

I bought a Huion 3 days ago, got clip art studio 2 days ago and this is literally my 3rd drawing ever idk how to shade

>>4122487
Just copy a bunch of shit before even jumping to anime

>>4121617
where did you get a ref of me n my dad

>>4122490
Define bunch of shit

>>4122500
Copy other animes with varied artstyle to build a visual library of other animus
Or draw from life or do fundies.

>>4122487
I'll try my best to give you a quick guide on this.

Follow these steps:
1. You need to read the sticky.
>>1579290
2. You need to put a ton more emphasis on line-art and drawing things to proportions before deciding to invest time in shading/coloring. (THIS IS IMPORTANT)
Quickest help on this will be "LOOMIS" videos which explain how to draw faces/bodies to proportion without it looking "uncanny".
Proko's youtube channel can help you tremendously. Don't read the loomis books, it will bore you before you even begin to draw.
3. If your plan is to draw anime, you need to follow steps 1 and 2 . The anatomical proportions for anatomy are very similar to traditional drawing except for some features such as the eyes and the width of the body. Use the Japanese books found in the Artbook threads or Anime Study threads for that. Once you understand loomis theory behind constructing a body, you won't need to know how to read Japanese to use them.

Don't be discouraged by having to read books to get good, just watch a ton of videos on these subjects.

>>4120748
You need to practice your lineart a great deal more if you want to become good at coloring and shading. I'd focus on understanding loomis for now before anything else. Also your shading is pretty terrible since it's not possible to tell where the actual lightsource is in the image.

Still drawing this piggy

>>4121670
Bump

tried to clean things up

>>4122570
Anon, I...

Absolute beginner here,
drew this with no reference and my only understanding of anatomy is from quickly skimming Michael Hamptons book. How to git gud?

draw with reference duh

besides the messed up wheels perspective, how is it?

>>4122537
Pillow-shading. Look it up. your painting has no real sense of directional light, I suggest as a pretty high priority that you read on books like "How to Render" and "Color and Light", to educate yourself on how light actually works (shadow and light parts of the painting, cool and warm coloring, etc.) and how to apply it to a painting like this.

Also, study real piglets, yours looks like a muddy mental image of a pig rather than a real one. And don't give me that "IT'S JUST MUH STYLE" bs, It's always better, from a design standpoint, to study your subject before trying to draw it, even if you're not going to adopt a 100% realistic style

>>4122656
I only used the original sprites as ref, everything else is done pretty much only by imagination.

Made this for that mystyle thread. What do you think, and is there anything I should fix, before coloring?

>>4120731
Why the fuck would anyone draw noses like that holy shit.

I mean, the rest of it is great, but I can't look away from the noses.

Why would you go for the super rendered but anime noses?? It makes sense in line drawings but this is terrifying. I never thought about it like this and now this is all I'll ever think about.

It's like when you see super realistically drawn and rendered pokemon. They made sense in animation but now they're nightmare fuel.

AAAHH

>>4122672
go ahead and fix it yourself if you don't like it

>>4121691
It's certainly illegal. Let's get that out of the way.

But who's gonna give a shit, right? You think Disney is going to descend upon your ass for a single transaction for personal use? No.

So go ahead. Also, make sure you have proof (an email will suffice) that your client understands that if he decides to start selling merchandise with your design (or do any other illegal thing with it) you will not be liable to law suits. Make sure that you get an explicit acceptance of this. It must be for personal use otherwise you're not liable.

So yeah, legal? No. Probably gonna be okay? Yes.

Good luck mate.

>>4121758
It doesn't. Hands are one of the most complex body parts on humans. It's a fact of life.

Luckily most animu artists simplify their hands so, once you learn how to do that, it gets better.

>>4122676
Ahh yes, the good ol' "If you can't do it yourself you can't complain, critique or comment" bullshit

Thanks, anon. I almost forget what a shithole this place is.

>>4122684
you're complaining about a stylistic choice. fix it yourself or shut the fuck up

Is there a pose/gesture photo collection in here? the one in the sticky is down for me

>>4122679
Well it's a little more complicated than just Spider-Man. I only posted that to be a tldr of sorts. He actually wants 2 recreations of 2 Spider-Man comic book covers from the 70's. Says he can't afford the actual comics themselves. Speech bubbles, title, and all. The whole situation has me pretty hesitant.

So does that mean that if I got into the convention I'm aiming at, if someone paid me to draw Wolverine, despite having nothing X-Men or X-Men related things advertised, I could theoretically get in trouble? I thought blank canvas commissions were considered a paid service? To be clear, I'm not trying to come at you and say you're wrong, I just want as much info as I can get on the topic since it's such a big gray area apparently.

>>4120420
You know... looking at this, after spending close to a year studying anatomy and proportion, practicing perspective/form and whatever else. I can clearly see the mistakes...yet it still looks more creative than some of the more accurate shite that I've seen.

>>4122660
I'd likely have to scrap the whole project and restart in order to fix the issues with lighting. I have a vague sense of "upper right" for the light source and not much else. I can't really identify the different sorts of highlights and shadows; my grip on forms casting shadows is weak.

I recognize that the planes of her face are - not quite right. Her eye might also be placed- wrong? The roundness of her cranium hits her snout at a sharp angle when it should slope more.
The exposed jawbone on the zombie pig is also not lighted at all right- it looks to flatten out his face a lot. I gave his head almost no sense of depth at all.
I didn't come to /ic/ to avoid critiques

>>4122835
You don’t scrap the turd, you shit it out for everyone to see. Finish that turd and learn your mistakes.

>>4122081
I thought I told you to stop using graph paper, you absolute piece of trash

idk what i’m doing w this body /beg/, i’m about to change it all together fff

>>4121674
Help?

>>4122667
LOOMIS

>>4122977
do about 10 more pages

>>4121797
did you ever finish this?

>>4120507
Zachfag gettin gud

>>4122081
>anakin.jpg
now this is chicken scratch

>>4122125
great, now draw the rest of the owl

>>4122161
so quit being a lazy fuck and draw some more

>>4122304
keep drawing, and don't just do the chest because then you won't be able to attach the limbs

>>4122601
draw another one, fill up 6 pages of figures from reference and post them. I will wait

>>4122656
it's pretty horrible man, just start over and draw it again. Make it easier and do it from profile like your reference.

>>4122667
just fucking finish it and move on to your next drawing

>>4122888
I can't even tell which direction her torso is facing - just call it done and move on - don't get so attached

>>4121617
if you are more comfortable with contours do a quick contour construction, then go back and try to paint it

>>4121622
draw me something else, use better refs next time, or follow them more closely, the bottom half is out of control

>>4121636
do another one and check your ears

This may be a stupid question, but how do I do gesture drawings?
I try to "feel" the forms and lines, and while it looks okay-ish, I'm afraid that I would just be sketching the outlines of whatever I am referencing. Is that what I should be doing? Or is there something I'm missing.

>>4123023
think about curves and single strokes

there is a line of action and contrapposto (counter balance) in figures.

take like 10 minutes and do 20 30s figure drawings, the speed will force you to quickly jot down the pose and the important lines that define the pose

You can also just trace over some of favorite drawings /pictures and do the line of action, and quickly make the head, shoulders, hips etc

post your work

>>4123023
there are infinite ways to do gesture drawing. It's all about mapping out the placement of forms.

For the past year or so I've been aimlessly drawing shapes like a retard and every two weeks or so doing something like pic related when a picture I see online piques my interest. Where to go from here if I wanna get better at drawing cute anime girls and shonen anime heroes? Is there anything particularly wrong with my drawing?

>>4123042
Draw shapes instead of flat lines.

>>4123051
What do you mean? My drawing looks like a sticker?

>>4123051
>>4122219
Why do /ic/'s anons insist so strongly on constructing while drawing from life instead learning to draw from life by eyeing? You sort of need both to be good at drawing from imagination and you won't get good at drawing from life by trying to copy complex stuff by constructing it.

>Wonder why my pen strokes aren't registering with a specific brush
>Try to figure it out for 10 minutes
>Opacity was set to 5% so it was just not showing up

>>4123067
if the goal is imagination drawing and anime then construction is the best method.
Every shape can be broken down into cubes, spheres, cylinders, and cones.

>>4122998
>it's pretty horrible man
Now that's an overstatement. What's exatly make it looks horrible? I was able able to capture the subject by using only a side profile sprite as ref with my knowledge on 3d forms and planes, it's indeed far away from good with some minor perspectives mistakes but calling horrible is bullshit and doesn't help with anything.

>>4122983
well, i'm trying
but it's like trying to bite a piece bigger than i can handle

Super new. Maybe this is a dumb question but is there an order of fundamentals I should follow? I've looked into Loomis, I've seen draw a box etc, I'm just not sure where to start, what skills to get a handle on, and then where to move onto. Maybe a little autistic but if I had a 'do this, then this, then this' sort of guide it would be super useful

My current goal is to get into drawing cute cartoony mascoty sort of things

>>4123270
It really depends on where you are in terms of skills. If you are really "super new", definitely do drawabox and Loomis to get a general understanding of drawing and human anatomy.

As for the cute cartoony mascots, focus on forms (shapes) and gestures as a daily practice/routine. Do a lot "draw from imagination"

>>4123078
>BG is too dark, no contrast with linework
>its drawn in perspective but, all the perspective is wrong, gun barrels, foreshortening on the elf, tank, Santas gun arm, the guns
>everything is single line width, which makes it also look flat, work on your line weights
>wheel is chicken scratched
>Santas face doesn't make any sense, is his beard merged with his face? is he wearing goggles that cut into his eyes?
>tangents all over the place, elf hat/santa arm, elf foot with gun, wheels with bottom of the page, penis heads in santa's backpack, ammo into guns/tank treads
>elf is hyper detailed, Santa has no detail
> santa has no anatomy or structure, he is just a blob with a head
>the santa arm is really freaking me out its so small and skinny
>the cropping is bad, like you ran out of room on the page, but since its digital, just move your drawing over
>no color
>no shading
>nothing to define form
>elf looks like a renaissance baby
>elf looks lazily drawn like he was put in a body suit to avoid drawing clothes
>tank treads and wheel mechanism don't make any sense, study some tanks

just do it over man, it will be better I promise

I wanted to give up half way through this sketch because of all the mistakes I began to notice but I decided to fix up as much as I could before going to bed.

I'm glad I finally sat down and tried to draw something I wanted to draw rather than do studies.

Long way to go.

>time to draw a circle

Trying to get good with Hampton, please critique

Trying to get good with Hampton, please critique

>mfw using overpriced polychromos to draw gestures

>>4123373
Also did this one but I'm not happy with how I did the face

is filling 4 pages of squares, ghosting each line, a good starter exercise? I don't really know where to start

>>4123438
draw a box is the first step

>>4123302
>BG is too dark, no contrast with linework
I use red and blue to have high contrast with the dark canvas when sketching, but i use darker lines to finish because the high contrast on the lines just makes it look more flat.

>its drawn in perspective but, all the perspective is wrong, gun barrels, foreshortening on the elf, tank, Santas gun arm, the guns
How so? The gun barrels indeed have a different angle to give sense of rotation, the foreshortening on the elf looks fine but the wheels whatever are messed up like i said before.

>no color
>no shading
>everything is single line width, which makes it also look flat, work on your line weights
The purpose of this exercise is not to make a complete rendered image, it's a study on construction, values are another complete beast to deal with. Actually there's some line weight, just very subtle.

>nothing to define form
there's overlap and size difference between the forms, which is enough to give a sense of deep to the image.

>elf looks like a renaissance baby
>elf looks lazily drawn like he was put in a body suit to avoid drawing clothes
I forgot to make the detail on wrist but it indeed looks like a bodysuit and i did on purpose because the sprite which it's based don't give much cloth information besides the boots and green clothing with some bits of red.

>elf is hyper detailed, Santa has no detail
Actually the santa face have way more details then the elf, on the santa you have the definition of the cheekbones and wrinkles on the face when the elf is more flat and smooth.

>>4123302
>Santas face doesn't make any sense, is his beard merged with his face? is he wearing goggles that cut into his eyes?
> santa has no anatomy or structure, he is just a blob with a head
>the santa arm is really freaking me out its so small and skinny
>tank treads and wheel mechanism don't make any sense, study some tanks

You seem to have issues with the design, which is not my concern, the santa arm is indeed small and his beard is also indeed merged with the face but all of this is part of the design, if you take a look on >>4122663
you will see how it means to looks like, that's not a redesign study.

>the cropping is bad, like you ran out of room on the page, but since its digital, just move your drawing over

The image have a very clear flow on the composition to the santa until the moon, even if it's not one of my concerns with the image.


>tangents all over the place, elf hat/santa arm, elf foot with gun, wheels with bottom of the page, penis heads in santa's backpack, ammo into guns/tank treads

I agree,i should be more careful with that, tangents mess up the overlap between the forms, affecting the depth of the image.


Anyway, thanks for the critics, even if you ended going little to far with somes. "elf looks like a renaissance baby", lmao.

I don't know why, only one single match of this event made my head hurt so horrible I had to lay down and get a nap.
I mean today was a super busy day and I just had not the strength to deal with this

>>4123551
hmm myes this abstract avant garde representation of the daily struggle of an FH player is astonishing, really makes you think does it not?

>>4123564
oh fuck sorry i thought i was in another thread, sorry. FML

unfinished work but, thoughts? Hands are trash, no doubt

>>4123586
too much of loomis

>>4123580
the perspective is looking clearly upwards I tried to adjust the body's curvature to face upwards. I put circles on the body parts to show how I would image the surface go. Your face is not bad but feels a bit unsure about the placement of the parts , feelfree to go further making her face upwards, push the nose out and make the mouth also face upwards even if she smiles. You do not need to make it a full downward facing curve to make a smile just drawing a flat line and pulling only the edges a bit upwards will already make it look like a smile.

>>4123617
7 blessings anon

>>4123613
Is there such a thing?

>>4123617
I'll work on my hands from now on so you don't have to name your corrections mahboy ;). Keep rocking anon

What could pawsibly go wrong?

I feel like getting stale with my art work

I'm scared of ending like those guys that in 5 years don't improve

>>4120420

>>4120499
this is not beg

what's a good, entry-level set of colored pencils or markers

>>4123704
You skipped your construction drawing

>>4123726
Get a set of warm grays and cool grays. Maybe 5 colors each? There should be starter packs.

I like copics because they are refillable, and the grays are always useful.

Not a colored pencil guy so maybe someone else knows.

>>4123704
Do first the frame

>>4120507
Went further with the torso. To that one anon from earlier, for the record that half erased line you thought was part of the deltoid was actually a leftover from one of the original ovals I started with when I did the arm. It doesn't matter, obviously but the misunderstanding kept bothering me lol.

Also maybe it's because I focused more on the body proper but the head/face stuff is really throwing me off.

bros my hand hurts I drew 6 pages of squares, and each page was around 300 squares

>>4123776
did you learn anything? or did you draw it like a faggot and draw a 17x17 matrix on each page

pyw

>>4123776
>>4123794
Not that anon but this is day two of learning to draw for me. This is my first page today but even after this my neco and back are fucking killing me

>>4120731
didnt fully paint it but god those noses were nightmare fuel

>>4123776
after a week the pain stops

dont worry, you are making muscles

>>4123794
i ghosted each line, and from the start i had trouble drawing the bottom line completely straight and would sometimes curve the end of the top. But by the end of it they are nearly perfect which is nice.

Did some linework on my previous post

>>4123797
Looks like shit

How are there?

>>4123797
I at least like Kizuna's nose.

Decided to get some markers to add value to pen sketches and wtf am I doing. I know the nose is absolutely fucked, that was a tragic accident.

fuck me im bad lulw

me shit me sad

>>4123849
>>4123860
the dudes weird fuckin style doest leave much room for a 'cute' nose given how he proportioned the face. I tried a smaller one but it looked even weirder.

>>4123888
this isnt even close to /beg/ get out of here and go make it.

>>4123888
>>4123917
This guy is right, you're too good to be here anon. The nose isnt that bad

>>4123915
If you want a cute western nose do this

>>4123924
>>4123904
Crop my nigga crop.

>>4123934
but that makes the image huge.

>>4123773
Use a cube to construct the head

>>4123377
Check prorportions

>>4123773

Taking a short break from the other drawing. I was listening to some leaked Doom Eternal music and wanted to draw something A N G R Y

Also wanted to try DesignDoll for referencing. Starting to get the hang of this, though I'm a little iffy on the arms and pecs. DD is obviously not perfect for muscle anatomy, so it's tricky to do it by hand, but fun nonetheless. Definitely going to change the head as well though.

>>4124089
Thanks for the redline anon. Admittedly, my head got a little foggy earlier tonight, so I couldn't focus as well. Trying to draw with a high blood sugar is no fun lol. Also his left side is really hard for me to see which is why it looks like that at the moment, prolly wouldn't hurt to play with the balancing of the original photo a little to see certain details better.

>>4124104
jesus

the madlad fixed the nose. now it's fappable

>>4124104
Bro

U need to draw a thousand boxes and cylinders and geometric forms until you have that shit down pat, before you start learning anatomy
You're wasting your time like this

>>4124103
You need to practice the loomis ball before placing features on the faces. What resource are you using to try and learn the ball method?

>>4124129
Kizuna still looks goofy

I've been doing Drawabox for a few days, and started Loomis tonight. It's kind of intimidating, after like two steps with drawing a head, it feels like "draw the rest of the fucking owl." I'm not really sure how the shapes are supposed to be formed and how they all work together in a larger piece outside of the mouth, eyes, and nose. Is that pretty normal at this stage? Should I just copy what he's got in the book since I don't even understand the composition at that point rather thing wing it myself?

>>4124158
i read first about it in loomis then in hampton
for now it's more observation practice than constructing

>>4124104
What is with that pose???

Can anyone tell me why the proportions look weird?

Arms and hands need to be bigger but I don't think they need to be longer.

I don't fuckin know

I just started about a week ago. Haven't really practiced faces much at all really, and I wish I did, because the face is the only thing I don't like about this. Would love some next steps for me to work on, I'm about to go out of town and will have plenty of time to grind out some practice sketches.

>>4124313
Reference pic, I changed a few things up since I ended up drawing WAY too big.

>>4124512
what the fuck. sorry about that

>>4124515
I wish we had a clearer picture, can you take another photo with it under a lamp or something?

>>4124313
Sunglasses need to be adjusted with perspective to give the feeling of wrapping around her face (like in your reference pic)

My biggest qualm is the neck though. It’s too long, too thick at the base and too thin towards the jawline. I think if you fixed the neck, the face would look a bit more like the reference.

>>4124209
>>4124140
I was going for a heavily exaggerated pose, but yeah the muscles are fucked, mainly due to just winging them. Think I'll just focus in working on that other drawing and study from it before finishing this one.

>One of those days where no matter what I try to do it just fails and nothing ends up looking right

Do I try to just push through, or should I call it a day

>>4124541
Take a short break but please keep at it Anon this is the time when you are building your persistence and habit. Godspeed you are going to make it!

Trying to find my style/experimental

>>4124209
its a funky dance.

>>4124312
you just need to make sure that your character has his weight centered.
You also picked a pose that has a bad silhouette. Draw the skeleton first them move onto drawing the muscles.
If you want to draw your character leaning over a bit then you need to learn about contrapposto (Hips should be equally displaced in the opposite direction from the shoulders.

>>4122688

>>4124312
1. You're missing the midsection of the torso
2. Thighs need to be a longer
3. Calves need to be thicker (at least at the part w/ the muscle)
4. Right arm cannot rotate out like that (or at least its very uncomfortable)
5. Left arm needs to be longer and bigger. (hand should be the same size as face when laid flat)
6. Neck got too thin when it reached the torso. It shouldn't look like a 'V'. Look up ref for necks.

You're on your way, at least you're drawing the bones and stuff trying to understand the volumes. to learn proportions you just gotta draw from references more and see where your drawing deviates from the model

>>4124661
Your proportions are all off too. But there's too many mistakes too list them all out like I did for the other anon, I'm just gonna tell you to go draw from reference more. Study the simple shapes that make up a human.

Does the left arm look like it's positioned incorrectly

>>4124694
Left arm doesn't isnt the bad part, it's the right arm that's messed up. You need to imagine how long his hand would be if it wasn't bent. It would reach way past the crotch area. So the elbow needs to be slightly behind the body for it to work the way you want it to. Also you should study a bit more on the muscles of the arm, you seem to be symbol drawing.

>>4124705
That makes sense, thanks for the advice I'll make sure to study that

I've been messin with shadows and light for a while now but my drawings keep feeling wrong when I do it, could anyone point me what I'm doing wrong?

>>4124184
You dont need to copy what he has in the book. It can help as a good reference though. To draw the head in any direction, this image is what you should be thinking of at all times.

How do I draw like this? It looks so flowy... I don't understand the construction of the shoulder/neck/upper chest area and the knees.

If I'm learning construction, is tracing over something and breaking it down into shapes a useful exercise? I'm just starting and doing it freehand/by eye feels really daunting

At the risk of sounding /beg/ as fuck (which I am anyway), at what point is the "it's my style" claim legitimate? Sure there's always those who lack the basics but refuse to learn cus they're too attached with their work, but surely there's a point where even a very crude art style is legitimate and that the person behind it obviously knows what they're doing. I'm just wondering what seperates that from those who for example have shit anatomy or constantly symbol draw on purpose and are still /beg/ tier.

Doodle

>>4124988
Wage

anime makes me want to die ngl

>>4125021
How many days have you been on that one single head?

>>4125033
literally 1 day I have a lot of free time. and It took me like 10 mins to edit this.

hey anons, here's a page of work and some feedback (take this with a grain of salt!)

>>4124736
legs and chest rendering feel weird. fabric doesn't get highlights like that unless the character is wearing something sheer, like leggings, but because of the thickness im fairly sure that's not what you're going for.

>>4123828
use less lines, do lines more quickly. You can redo lines over and over in digital, take advantage of that. Things that should flow together don't and things that shouldn't flow together do. also, try to understand what you're drawing a bit better. No traps, really big arms, misplaced breasts, etc.

>>4123222
that elbow is way too clean of a curve, especially with fabric, feels weird.... your drapery doesn't read

I did this a while ago for a friend

>>4125139

>>4125139
you should vary your line weight more dramatically

Evaluate my craft, old masters. I'm trying to make my stuff more lively and detailed as if I was drawing from life.

>>4124313
>>4124524
piggybacking off of what this guy said, but I think what would help you A LOT is forcing yourself to hold your sketchbook away from you, straight on, to see how things are so far.

It's easy to end up drawing askew / making things too large at the top when you don't look enough. For example, the top of her hair looks way too wide, which may actually have looked correct to you as you were drawing it.

>>4125215
looking at your sketchbook***
I worded it shitty, just look at the WHOLE picture from time to time, straight on.

Probably going to take a break from this for a while, but I like what I got so far. The head's really fucky though, especially the mouth, which is really hard to see in the original picture. I think I've bitten off a little too much I can chew with the face and other details that are also hard to see cus of the lighting.

>>4125187
I dont know why beginners always tend to use this "stretched spine" kind of pose where their legs have no pose and the body is tilted to one side.
can you do that pose? how much fucking pressure do you feel on your midback when you do that stupid fucking pose?
are you mentally challenged and literally cant think of a single better non-painful pose?
I mean yours is a tiny bit better because your legs are spread out but given how many times I've seen a pose like that with the legs practically touching eachother is fucking retarded

your torso is stretched out, like they usually are in beg drawings of this pose, your neck is fucking jutting back and not aligned with the shoulders at all, everything else is decent and I don't have any kind of critique for it at this point without it being too advanced for your skill level

>>4125251
The jaw is huge

>>4125262
You're absolutely right lol, I'll keep that in mind when I go back to it.

>>4125260
Nice, thanks anon. I only stopped at "it's technically possible" but didn't consider how comfortable and realistic it is. I do pose like that like a retard sometimes though, let's say she was giving it her all for that movie poster. I do see the neck at roughly the center of the shoulders and I even covered it up with the jacket collar for good measure, I guess it was a cheap trick.

>>4122667
Just got around to finishing.
Tell me what you think.

>>4121758
I'm back with more pain and suffering.

>>4125302
Reminds me of Attack on Titan.

>>4125260
Isn't it just a bitch ass failed contrapposto? Like "I'm gonna do that sweet curvy pose that makes everybody look sexy, but I don't know shit about anatomy or weight and balance"

>>4125164
I will try, thanks

>>4125321
yeah, a shitty imitation of a pinup, but it pisses me off to see it all the time

>>4125328
calm down incel. it's a jojo pose

>>4125329
>jojo pose
even worse, consider watching something else

Here's something

Heres something

>>4125345
you really nailed the "shitpost comic" look and I love it

>>4123669
> same shit. day after day. i draw Star Butterfly being cuckolded. There are thousands like me, but whatever man like haha.
Get out to your local park and draw a cute doggy, sketch a stray kot at your local burnt building, draw plants from dif angles or some shit. Stop being so fucking boring. Please.

I think, from here, I just start making the forms less blocky and pushing the anatomy from the base values I've got placed down. I feel much comfortable with blocking in values onto a quick gesture to make sure the whole thing is legible. Anything I should consider at this stage?

study

>>4125382
Looks promising consider adding more stronger values at the ambient occlusion areas, it is a bit hard to make out what exactly is going on those hands need to be cleared and the face more recognizable, I am also not sure which of the dark liner are hair or possible blood?
But quite promising, please finish it!

I just want draw anime and plump chicks. What's recommended to achieve this?

>>4125419
Maybe learn the basics of the skeleton,then basic muscle,then you can learn how to draw fat? Maybe you could draw some irl fat chicks?

>>4125419
look at pictures of anime and plump chicks, then copy them with your pencil and paper/drawing tablet
post results here for next steps

>>4125427
>>4125428
Sure I'll do it tomorrow when I get off work.

>>4120420
work in progress, too lazy to finish

>>4125481
NO
You finish that piece anon, do not leave things half-done!

What do anons think of drawing cubes on a sphere, to practice perspective/mapping.

>>4125490
Okay senpai

still rough but i'm done

Total newbie, which book of these two you prefer?

>Drawing on the right side of the brain
>Keys to Drawing

>>4125523
i have trouble making my studies look finished

>>4124545
please stay away from digital stuff. it looks awful
you'll thank me in two years
yuck
eugh
christ

>>4125539
Call it a "study". Yikes

>>4125591
but it is a study even if it looks like trash

>>4125592
proportion WRONG
hue WRONG
spend more time looking at your ref buddy

>>4125592
what were you trying to study?
are you half blind? colorblind? do you see shit like a funhouse mirror?

>>4124776
>How do I draw like this?

>understand gesture
>understand form
>understand overlapping form
>study fat chicks/ people
>study that type of stylisation
>???
>Profit

>>4125382
Looking good man, the thumbnail is reading really well, would love to see you take it further.

Anyone know where I can download a bunch of high quality, safe for work reference pose photos?

>>4125599
>high quality reference pose
yes
>safe for work
no

>>4125596
Chill, I was experimenting with the colors, the goal wasn't to get the proportions or colors right rather to make it look right

>>4125598
Don't just do gesture all the time or you'll stagnate, work on something finished

>>4125610
>finished
what do people mean when they say this? so it's finished when i stop drawing, actually, is my intuition.

>>4125610
>you'll stagnate
implying that hasn't already happened^^
I'm mainly working on my portraits actually by doing the huston head drawing course, but i've never actually gotten a response for those

>>4125609
>c-chill dude I was just *not doing a fucking study*
well I'll tell you, you completely failed to make it look right

>>4125600
Such is live

>>4125613
Finished as in I cannot longer improve this piece because I have reach what my technical skill can do.

>>4125610
There you go, (you)'s please :P
Also legitemate question here, I've always thought of my portraits as pretty beg-tier but i've never gotten any response for them.
Is it because they're not beg enough? I can't even tell anymore.
should I move on to Draw?

>>4125668
what are your goals with art?

>>4125618
I agree that I still have a long way to go with painting, that much is obvious, however, doing a 1:1 isn't the only way to do a study, the goal of a study is to learn.

>>4125679
why are you on the critique board if you're just going to repeatedly explain away your shittiness and not accept that you did it wrong?

>>4125677
I don't have any professional aspirations.
I have arbitrary goals though, like getting better at portraiture and then maybe getting properly into value and rendering.

>>4123356
this
circles are fucking cancer

>>4125021
it may help to break the forms into fewer simpler ones which share a similar volume as whatever it is you are drawing. taking note of the proportions of whatever style you are trying to emulate will help a bunch too. as for the light sphere; i find it most beneficial to think of the object and imagining the surfaces which are tangential along its surface(imagine a mirror). you are projecting the surrounding environment onto the surface of the sphere. the material properties then determine reflective, dispersal, and refractive operations on particular bands of wavelength. understanding the material behavior and relations between objects and observer, should allow you to work out a visual image with greater ease. keep it up anon, the grind is long.

>>4125610
I think it's important to do gestures exercises before a new piece every now and then. Helps keep you loose and the prevents the forms from becoming too stiff.

Been working a lot with charcoal. How is this?

>>4125791
The eyelashes are too big on the lower portion.
The Iris is so large that there is almost no sclera. Also It's very difficult to understand what direction/ and which eye this would be on a person because you can't see the Tear duct right away. What reference are you using for this?

>>4125299
Left arm too long. Body too short. Femur too short.

>>4120731
i don't think i like this style of rendering much

everything looks like it has the same texture and it has this flat, low-contrast look like they are made of plastic and there's foggy weather

there's something slightly 'off' about the pose of the characters and the anatomy that combines with my previous complaint to give the picture a subtle 'stink'

t. notalent dunning krueger who hasn't practiced in months

>>4125367
who are you quoting?
btw yeah i should go out

>>4120420
drew this on a whim. think my proportions may be off

>>4125427
>>4125428
Sorry I took so long. Okay, I tried my best. What do you recommend I should focus on doing to improve.

>>4126547
gesture, anatomy, chicken scratching
that should be good enough for you

>>4126554
Thank you I'll look into studying this then. What do you mean be chicken scratching though? Like how the lines aren't solid. Sorry that the image is sideway I didn't think it'd come out like that. I'll make sure it's correct and resized next time.

>>4125689
Well maybe because i'm not getting any critiques. Saying i'm color blind isn't a critique.

how do you follow stuff like bob ross when painting digitally? i have no ideea what titanium white means or ultramarine blue.
how2mix colors?

can someone give me proof of a decent artist that started later in life that didnt have any practice when they were younger?

>>4124524
>>4125215
thanks for the help. ill try these next time,

>>4127229
Why does that even matter to you?

Are you trying to look for an excuse to give up because "you're too old to make it"?

Decided to practice by sketching an arm and eventually a torso (mostly) from imagination. The arm feels way too stiff and the hand's too small, but I feel like I'm getting there overall. Also I think the bicep's too short.

I always make one or two drawings every 4 months or so and then give up. I plugged in a tablet and popped this out. I wasn't sure how to put his mouth together so I just made a little warble. I guess my question is how could I have drawn this without making the mouth a straight-up triangle but still cute?

I bought myself a tablet a couple of months ago because I've wanted to learn to draw for a long time, and this is the thing i've been most happy with.

ive really been struggling with gesture. i found some videos on youtube with figures that are timed and ive been trying to draw along with them. this is probably my most successful page but i just dont feel like i "get" it. I understand you need to look for the movement in the pose but I struggle to show that without having them look naff.

>>4128297
>draw along with them
Instead of drawing along with them, I suggest copying the exact lines they do.

I know I've messed up the pelvis, it looks like both legs are coming out of the right socket.

>>4128305
sorry, i misspoke - ive been drawing along with the video, not someone drawing -in- the video. This is the video i used for that page of drawing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPLRJrlq7x0

>>4128443
Check out this video. Here's an instructor drawing some timed gestures at different time lengths.

For a beginner who doesn't "get it" yet, I think it's good to just copy exactly what he's drawing while looking at the reference picture as well. Don't bother with the times for now. Look what lines he draws, check with the ref pic and do exactly the same. Pause the video and take it slowly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFP8L4OUL2E

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