/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>4123100
based dave rapoza

Ok, I don't care.
Also, professional artist use their time to draw instead of making dumb bait threads.

>>4123106
Why bother responding with a useless time-wasting comment if you don’t care?

>need to merge all layers to transfo selection
yep photoshop is trash, never turning back

Saskia Gutekunst has been using Clip for years as well.

>>4123100
People actually use Photoshop to draw? lmao

inb4 photoshop shills arrive.
>wah I tried clip and it didnt fit the work flow adobe cucked me into

>>4123100
Who cares what program you use? The skill to produce art comes from your abilities. The program is just a tool.

>>4123133
What IS your watercolor approach????

>>4123141
>>4123147
The retards, they have arrived.

>>4123100
A lot of fucking Japs use Clip Studio, that alone should tell you that you are pretty much using meme software if you use anything else.

>>4123178
I don't want my pics to look like a pool of piss, all japanese "high quality" art is all yellowish brown that is disgusting, is like they have zero clue about appealing colors, fuck that shit, keep your nip Crap to yourself.

>>4123179
Oof Boomer alert

No professional artists use pencils, pencils are what kids use in school :/ get some real art materials

Based Deibido Kitsune.we need to boost CSP's mainstream appela so these niggers may fix the wonky interface.

>>4123106
>professional artist use their time to draw instead of making dumb bait threads

imbling op is not dave rapoza himself

>>4123100
>literally semi beg

actual artists don't care about software, but when they do it's photoshop. CSP is really good though

Well, good for Dave. I'll stay in my comfort zone.

>>4123212
>Semi beg
How about you post your own work big boi

>>4123178
They just jumped from manga studio, which tells you literally nothing you idiot. They use the cheap software they always used including sai, just updated. But they are not good for actual painting

>>4123214
instead of arguing with people online rather spend your time improving those semi beg skills Dave boi

>>4123212
lol

>>4123215
Well excuse them for not wanting to get jewwed by Adobe.

>>4123213
pussy

>>4123228
Dumb gooks. They probably have no idea of this new torrent thing.

>>4123228
I have PS pirated, I don't see any reason yo have to get the sub version, you dumb weeaboo.

>>4123100
He still uses photoshop primarily. Prob was paid to shill a bit.

t. someone that follows Dave

Anyhow. This choice of software is just a part of his personal art-journey. He uses it because it's good for him, not because it's good in general. I mean, who cares, whatever floats your boat, bro. I'm not gonna jump into CSP just because some art-celebrity uses it.

>>4123179
Post your work.

>>4123100
B-B-B-BUT MUH INDUSTRY STANDARD

>>4123241
>He still uses photoshop primarily.
he says right there in the image that he has all but abandoned photoshop

>>4123141
yeah even after Adobe rightfully told artists to fuck off because photoshop is not a drawing program, it's a photo manipulation program.

>>4123133
kek wtf are those guns

>>4123170
i remember when artists were known for being resourceful for cheap and not spending 100s of bucks to monthly rent a program.

>>4123274
thats definitely not how the movie industry uses it. im sure adobe want to keep their big bucks movie industry users happy.

>>4123276
based zoomer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3EtZ5KEfMQ

>>4123286
>?
I'm sorry but this weird Rob Liefeld-esque tubeshit is nowhere to be seen in your vid

>>4123320
its outdoor winter famas. very rare.

>>4123236
>>4123240
> t. poorfags that will bitch about having their work pirated sometime in the future

>>4123320
Same thing with Meryl's gun in his larger MGS1 piece. I don't know if he has some sort of moral objection to drawing real guns or just didn't use reference but it's just really strange looking

>>4123322
>very rare
either provide a real life pic or shut the fuck up

>>4123322
Ew. He made Grey Fox took like a cheap halloween costume. Grey Fox's mask especially is really angular

>>4123333
NOOOOOOOOOOO

>>4123332
ok, you are right for once. i cannot find it. I mean, it might be so rare its only in this one illustration?

>>4123338
I'd be very suprised
right now tho it's Human Revolution if it was drawn by a /beg/

>>4123322
>leaves space for 4 genome soldiers
>has the opportunity to draw 1 of each of the 4 genome variants
>instead draws 1 white coat genome with a nerf gun and 3 OC donut steal genomes
why

>>4123344
I was just joking. Looks like a mistake.

>>4123346
holy shit. this really is Artwork and Critique

>>4123346

>>4123100
>>4123133
>>4123322
This reminds me of another artist I like who also does digital “watercolor” art on CSP. Do they use some kind of textured low-opacity brush to achieve this effect? How do I get a texture like pic related?

I have been saying this for years. Anyone who thinks you NEED photoshop fell for the Adobe marketing.

>>4123361
Ive just instaled CSP trial fort the first time and I honsetly have no idea

I'm having troubles with CSP

I don't know does it run like shit just for me or is everybody just dealing with it?
>Screen tearing
>transform tool doesn't update in real time but takes a couple of seconds after I moved or scaled selection
>overall performance is rather shitty
I kinda like the idea of CSP but it runs so poorly for me I stick with Krita.

Although to be fair I quite love Krita, CSP doesn't really have anything Krita can't do.

>>4123361
Who's the artist?

You need powerful computer processor and more ram. These software improve or abandoned all the time. Just scan your traditional drawings and edit it with whatever you want lmao.

CSP for watercolor could be great, but what about oils and impasto painting?

>>4123391
Photoshop with canvas on really high definition. download bunch of oil brushes and then use wet load brush mode

>>4123378
https://twitter.com/hanzo1011/

>>4123366
I actually have the file with all the layers from patreon. I have zero experience with CSP(I usually use sai) so I don't really understand much, but it's interesting to see how the layers look separately

>>4123361
Here's some "watercolor effect" tutorials that might get you ideas.

>Pic related is more of how you can acheive a watercolor effect with blend modes

>>4123431
sweet. I need exaclty this effect but for photoshop. are there some plugings or anything useful?

>>4123431
This was done in Sai too but you can probably apply it any program. Just find a similar blendy fuzzy brush

>>4123376
One thing I really like about CSP compared to Krita (I still use krita though) is it's stabilizer settings, it's better brush manager, and how it's huge collection of user created resources. I always wish Krita could have some kind of add on that would allow users to download and install bundles from a central repository. Everything right now is spread over multiple sites and makes it harder to find custom brushes.

Performance wish CSP and Krita was always about the same to me. Krita might feel smoother sometimes because unlike CSP, it uses hardware accelerated rendering and it's brushes used CPU multi threading. CSP is only single threaded

>>4123450
This mypaint tutorial shows how you can use saturated colors to achieve a watercolor effect

https://vimeo.com/18157214

>>4123439
I think you can achieve the same thing in Photoshop with blend modes.

>>4123100
>I've all but abandoned PS at this point
>then proceeds to speaking in a positive manner
I'm ETL, can some englo explain this grammar to me
when you say "I've all but" doesn't it mean "I've (everything) EXCEPT X"
So that's means he is still on PS?

>>4123450
how are shadows not the same as ambient occlusion?

>>4123354
They're borderline unrecognizable

>>4123469
it means he has almost completely abandoned photoshop

>>4123479
Shadows = cast shadow from the main light source
Occulusion = shadows in creases and folds from the diffuse reflected and bounced light.

>>4123100

i've tried drawing in photoshop but it's unintuitive and laggy as fuck.
I'm tired of Adobe's bullshit anyways.

>>4123514
You have a poorfag PC, that is not Photoshop fault, also Photoshop is really intuitive, i'm a brainlet and I learned in less than a week, stop making up excuses

>>4123526

To each their own. I don't like it for drawing. I use it all the time for graphics though.

>>4123526
Well of course you are a brainlet. you are using photoshop instead of the many other superior drawing software..

>>4123100
Shitpost thread, but why do you all care so much about the program, about using the Japanese-approved or the professional-approved or just the cool kids' program? 90% of the work I see posted here can be done in simpler programs like Sai. Do you think the program will make you better? It won't. At best it will make the process a little more efficient.

>>4123363
No, the studios did. If you're a freelancer you can use whatever you want, but if you work in a studio you're gonna be using Adobe products

>>4123543
i dont' think it's shitpost... i mean i don't know the fuck who is shilling it.

i've tried both sai and csp and i prefer csp. mostly because of it's touchscreen support. i'm still getting used to it's other features

>>4123543
Using a "simpler" program is not an achievement, anon.

>>4123179
Hahahahahaahahah

I have no idea how CSP works but I'd love to know how because say what you will about Dave's art, that looks pretty good

>>4123278
Matte painting IS photo manipulation.
No wonder you losers think PS is good for painting, you don't know what painting is.

>>4123391
That's Corel Painter's thing.

>>4123133
lmao @ those guns

>>4123526
If PS wasn't utter shit for drawing Adobe themselves wouldn't have made Illustrator, Flash and Draw. And there wouldn't be dozens of competitor apps gaining traction with artists from Paint Shop Pro to Procreate.

PS is not an art software, it's an image edition software. It will never be an art software no matter how many plugins and workarounds we make for it. At some point the industry will have to get over the sunk cost and move on.

>>4123415
could you upload that clip file anon?
i'll do my best to break it down if you do.

>>4123788
What makes an art software then, you dumb cocksucker? 90% of the professional art I see and study is made on PS, are you telling me that somehow people who already get paid for their Jobs are si dumb they havent noticed how PS is not really a drawing software?
Give me break from your stupidity please, Idont know anymore if you are shitposting ir bainting, I have seen so much retarded crap in this place that wouldnt surprise me if you really though you can't do art on PS because is not an ilsutration software.

>>4123276
this

>>4123631
That's what you took from that post? Okay then.

Is there a chart out there comparing all the popular artist programs(PS, Sai/Sai 2, CSP, etc.) and listing their pros/cons?

I’ve always used Sai and I’m happy and doing well with it, but there’s been a ton of love of CSP lately so I wonder if I’m missing out and just need to spend more time on it. I do have it and sometimes try it out for the perspective grid, comic tools, various brushes, etc. but I always end up a bit disappointed and going back to Sai. I still think it’s useful, I just mainly do my drawing on Sai because it feels more fun/comfortable to me.

>>4123808
If 90% of artists made art with screwdrivers it wouldn't make the screwdriver an art tool.
People use photoshop for digital art because it was the only software readily available when the industry started and wagies are fucking lemmings who'd rather not think or experiment. If the program wasn't shit there wouldn't be plugins to try and make it not shit and everyone who doesn't work in an office environment wouldn't jump at whatever new software that shows up.

PS is for photo manipulation and matte painting. If you use it for illustration you're crippling yourself for peer pressure, no justifications, no matter how many other losers have crippled themselves in the past.

>>4123831
Wow, so all the custom brushes, curve tools, and other useful things Photoshop have doesnt work because is not an ilustration software? Can you tell me what CSP have that PS doesnt have, si it makes it an ilustration software, please?

>>4123831
Crippling in which way? I don't see anything crippling on PS, all the opposite, when I used CSP it felt weak and wonky as heck, you have to do all sort of unintuitive crap to do something as simple as warp.

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>>4123871
I agree

Nice, keep promoting other softwares, this way the rest will lose users be forced to improve. I use photoshop on PC but fuck adobe

>>4123847
>Can you tell me what CSP have that PS doesnt have
An actual line drawing engine.
People have made decades worth of custom brushes, drivers and plugins to make photoshop draw acceptable lines. It still doesn't. CSP does by default. So do SAI, Procreate, Sketchbook Pro and Artrage.

Keep working twice as hard to make your matte painting software act like an art software just because old idiots with no alternatives did.

>>4123489
Sure, if you’re fucking blind.

>>4123889
What? What the fuck are you talking about? Line engine, this start yo sound like gibberish, you don't any any real feature that makes CSP better than PS, do you

>>4123889
>d-doing lines in PS is hard, change to CSP

Certainly CSP is better for brain damaged people, I see.

>>4123847
>What PS doesn't have
Brush engine, artwork friendly interface, pressure-sensitive vector drawing, convenient vector editing, perspective rulers, muxbrush is shit

>>4123943
>>4123944
>Draw with a literal 3px brush in any normal software
>Get a proper solid line
>Draw a with a 3px brush in PS
>get blurred invisible shit
>Have to use a very high resolution canvas just because your lines must be at least 10px wide or more
>The rest of the brushes arent so fast when you stretch them past 250px

I know because i used to use PS a lot before i got sick of it.

>>4123871
Nice blog

>>4123889
It took me a long time until I could make proper lines on Photoshop but I managed eventually. I use Procreate today but, is that really all you got?

>>4123970
You have a potato for computer, I use big brushes and high res canvas on PS all the time, also, who would draw with a 3 px brush? Why? Theres no point i'm doing that, all the other list you made of "cool things only CSP have" PS can do too, most of them at least, and the ones who doesnt I havent used them in my life, i'm not a pro at any means, but I do sell my life work so I know what can PS do for you, it's a pretty solid tool, easy to use, yes it's RAM and VRAM expensive, if you want to do big stuff, but it's 2019, computers arent toasters anymore, Even on my old Intel Celeron PS ran smooth, ho shill your software somewhere is thoose things are the only you have to convince people to move yo CSP

>>4123822
You can use both. I use Sai as my go-to but I open up files in CSP for whenever I need to add a perspective grid or text or screentones. It's less convenient than having everything on one program, but it works for me. Plus since CSP is so cheap on sale it's easy to justify buying it

>>4123212
>semi beg

all the pros use photoshop.

>>4124032
The really impressive thing is he drew that with a trackpad, what the fuck.

>>4124005
>Whst can't PS do
>Use small brushes and draw fine detail
>I DON'T NEED THAT ANYWAY WHY WOULD I WANT THAT I CAN AFFORD 12K*10K CANVASES
Sour grapes much?

It's good to be able to do fine things without having to work in x4 the desired resolution.
Its generally good to be able to do things and have options.

Options like a good functioning smudge or muxbrush.

>>4123100
As much as I love CSP, I have a fear that if it becomes the "industry standard" they will get to a point where they stop selling to new users and decide to adopt a subscription model like Photoshop. You never know if one day they'll pull the rug from under you, I can already see getting a measly bonus for buying EX or maybe a discount on the sub.

>>4123871
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsUvcjk8J5c

>>4124261
It already is subscription based on iOS, it's just a matter of time until those slimy Jap jews try to pull the same shit with Desktop.

>>4124261
Then just use krita lol.

CSP isn't as special as you think, its just a better marketed medibang/open canvas/paintstorn there are fuckloads of those.

>>4124269
I do most of my process on paper so I can just switch to paper entirely and use something like GIMP for basic adjustments.
I have tried all these programs and they're all awful compared to CSP.

>>4123100
some pros moved to CSP a long time ago like Darren Yeow who is also the reason I got sold in using CSP

>>4124271
Then you didn't try them hard enough.

CSP is just one of the many same-ish art applications.

Don't care cuz using painstorm anyway

its literally just a paid promotion

use the software that feels most comfy to you and focus on drawing instead of wasting time arguing about software. This isnt the 3DCG board

>>4124269
CSP's brushengine is totally different from krita's

>>4123889
>lines

But that's not digital painting according all those entetainment design peeps.

>Procreate/Sketchbook/Artrage

Not "real" painting software and are sketching toys. Whatever happened to Corel Painter?

t. ImagineFX

>>4124282
imo they didnt market their software well enough

>>4124283
ImagineFX has pushed Photoshop and Painter for over a decade with their advice and tutorials in their magazine and dismissed everything else as quaint underpowered toys. With Massiveblack and other studio artists they feature, how could they be wrong?

I hear AAA studios are very violent in mandating Photoshop for painting and drawing.

Imagine to need someone else's opinion to chose a paint programm

Who cares. Photoshop is a king and will remain a king while adobe exists.

>>4123788
>If PS wasn't utter shit for drawing Adobe themselves wouldn't have made Illustrator, Flash and Draw.

Didn't red the thread, but caught this stupidity. You are fuckin retarded. Literally 70 IQ subhuman. Kill youself. Or atleast restrain yourself when you want to make a claim you know you have no idea about.

>>4124032
All the pros suck these nuts

>>4123810
kek wtf, I lay down my sword anon
this shit is going straight into my /k/ursed folder tho

>>4123100
it's absurd how well csp runs. i can do 4k images with 200+ layers and it doesn't even fucking stutter.
cs6 can't even change colors without shitting itself, part of that is apple's fault though.

>>4124452
Again, not the programs fault you have a shit computer, that has never happened to me since I have a decent equipment, what now, you will claim SAI is better because never stutter? Come on

>>4124469
If he's running both software on the same computer how is it the computers fault you nigger

>>4123241
at first I thought he was shilling, I don't think so.

>>4124483
You are beyond dumb.

i love Clip Studio but I'm calling bullshit on the whole "it's like I'm using real watercolor" thing. at best you can try faking the look with a million texture layers, but that's a huge pain in the ass

>>4124032
based boomer.

>>4123412
holy shit this is a fucking painting

>>4124616
More like a colored sketchup render

>>4124578
the watercolour brushes in csp are actually legit as fuck.

>>4124667
LA CREATURA

>>4124670
Dios mio...

>>4124261
>decide to adopt a subscription model
CSP already does that for Companies, big companies buy a fuck ton of licenses and control them all to give out to their employees.

>>4124578
watercolor effects are replicable in CSP with the proper brush settings

Once clip studio adds liquify i'll stop depending on photoshop entirely.

>>4124032
kek, for a trackpad is fine

>>4123322
>outdoor winter famas
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HOLY SHIT! AAAAAA

How much one have to pay adobe-jews so they add the sai-like blending into their ransomware?

>>4125314
Pretty amazed that they haven't. I made my own brush that pushes stuff around but it doesn't work nearly as well.

>>4124687
ok, what are they then

>>4125361
https://twitter.com/ant_academy_/status/1166949689305886720
https://assets.clip-studio.com/en-us/detail?id=1713044
https://assets.clip-studio.com/en-us/detail?id=1682349
https://assets.clip-studio.com/en-us/detail?id=1696556
There's a few more watercolor brushes in the assets site but I don't really feel like digging through my bookmarks right now

>>4125417
there's also already a default watercolor brush in csp when you install it. I think he used whatever csp default brush tools are available to him

>>4123808
the only reason PS is the leading industry software is because it established itself during a time where there were no other alternatives and Adobe jews made deals with companies to use PS and all that jazz.

>>4123943
Yeah, the navigator.
Also you can bind flip canvas to a simple keyboard button unlike PS that requires ctrl+key bullshit, and flipping the canvas horizontally is instantaneous unlike PS that seems to render the image over every time you flip using the shortcut.
I used PS 2018, so idk if these things are common through all versions. Just what I experienced

>>4124319
>triggered adobetard

>>4125322
They have never added an asked-for feature.

>>4123100
Plenty of animators use CSP.

>>4125434
If only Corel hadn't fucked up Jasc's Paintshop Pro we may have had a strong contender...

>>4123244
>>4123154
>>4123106
>>4123363
>>4123547
Smart people here.

>>4123543
Another smart anon.
>>4123459
Thanks for the vid ! Here's the Ps equivalent : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrGNiDdIR9o

>>4126284
>unlike you sheep i did not chose to use photoshop because it was popular haha its totally a coincidence haha

I've never really enjoyed trying to replicate watercolor or washes in digital. Never felt right and hated having to constantly guess the result of multiply. I'd be curious to see his watercolor workflow, I'm familiar with how he worked in PS which was a lot of glazing type stuff which I think digital is suited for or fully opaque.

That said, I recently found out about the "Replace Alpha" blending mode which solves the problems I had. I can't seem to find a way to map it to a shortcut though. I also forgot CSP updated and added the awesome new realistic watercolor brushes and gouache brushes in the oil paint section. I understand why he's so happy now, the brushes are great I just hadn't gotten around to using them. Turn off the border of watercolor and everything's great.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lzn7mlx8zKM&t=29m53s

>>4125322
Better off using CSP for that since it has roughly equivalent features to Sai now. You can use the blur or lower strength smudge tool to get a little closer.

>>4123100
I gave it a shot, I don't know how they do it but it does feel more natural and accurate. Thoughts?

>>4126517
You're not designing your shapes so the values look patchy and disorganized.

>>4126529
Well, it's more of a test sketch. But I gotcha.

all those chinese digital painters do just fine with photoshop. same with most concept art studios. ctrl+paint has some decent photoshop videos

but CSP being vector has benefits for illustrators

>>4125417
thanks anon

>>4126623
np
is this made from csp brushes? looks pretty neat

>>4126715
yeh i made with the second one https://assets.clip-studio.com/ko-kr/detail?id=1739109

>>4126776
I've been trying these out too and they're really nice

So what's the ideal version of CSP for illustration, EX or PRO?

>>4128217
The cheaper one, the upgrade is mainly for comic page functions.

>>4124261
That is always the plan.

Everyone on here already knew Photoshop is trash. It’s such unnecessary resource hog.

Unless Adobe somehow decides to trim and optimize photoshop for artist..I will NEVER EVER use it.

>>4128217
you only really need ex if you want to do long animations or comic work. pro is fine for basically everything else

CSP really helped me speed up my workflow, mostly because the lines have stabilization. Overall I really like it, and other than my old custom brushes I don't see a reason to use PS again.

>>4123100
The tool is not important, friend

>>4123100
would too but nobody pirates CSP for mac anymore

>>4128274
it's $20 on sale and it's on sale almost every two months
you could afford a mac for fuck's sake

>>4128374
When's the next sale? I'm thinking of supporting CSP after using it for a few months and buying the PRO version for illustration.

>>4124272
post work

i like sketchbook more but its not updated as much, free with an autodesk account too

>>4128399
but why

>>4128376
Probably Christmas/New Years, if not then around Valentines/Spring.

im out here still waiting for a cracked version Leonardo app

>>4129044
They might have a "black Friday" sale around Thanksgiving.

>>4128238
They're more likely to make an entirely new app for digital art. Again.

CSPfags are the vegans of digital art

>>4129107
cope harder, photoshitter.

>>4129156
good luck getting a job without experience in Photoshop

>>4129160
I work at a studio that makes textures and shit for stock catalogs. One of the guys I work with had zero PS experience and still passed the studio's aptitude test because he knows Krita and GIMP.

PS isn't state of the art, in fact it hasn't changed worth a shit since I started messing with it back in PS7.

>>4129160
A lot of studios all around the world ask me to work for them despite the fact that I mainly use SAI to draw. You're just shit tier.

as long as the shit i need to do requires only a mouse it's whatever - photoshop or csp (with an advantage to photoshop)
the moment i have to pick up my pen it's csp - and it's not even close.

>>4129461
>A lot of studios
>all around the world
>ask me to work for them
>despite the fact that I mainly use SAI to draw.
Dude you can't flex like this without pyw
And that anon is right or you wouldn't see proficiency in the adobe suite advertised on every single ArtStation profile. I think CSP is a better software for drawing but adobe is the industry standard and that's a fact.

Shit I'm still painting in CS2 lol

>>4129510
1 cropping pictures isn't an industry
2 metric thread is an industrial standard, ps isn't.
3 just save as .psd you fucking sperg.
4 nothing but results matter

Everbody can use ps to some degree.
What they gonna do? Watch over your fucking shoulder and check that you dont work in CSP before expirting psd and finishing in ps?
Have they got time for that?
Do they care?
Are they fucking nuts?
Are you?

>muh studios demand PS
they soon will stop.

Either PS will change or the studios will

Photoshop has been neglecting the digital artists pretty much forever.
Adobe position it as PHOTO shop and they dont give a rat's ass about the digital painters in the slightest.

The studios are too used to PS since the old days it was the only viable software but that has long changed and clinging to PS is just stupid and counter productive at this point.

>>4123100
>still no liquify tool

>>4129903
>being reliant on a meme tool

>>4129783
I never worked for a company but I'm taking random job offers and I see
>Advanced level in Adobe Photoshop and Adobe After Effects; experience in Final Cut Pro, Cinema 4D and Adobe Illustrator.
>Proficiency in Mari, Adobe Photoshop. Zbrush and procedural texture writing experience is preferred.
>Experience and a firm understanding of Maya, Photoshop
>Acutely familiar in other Adobe CC software (Photoshop, Illustrator, Premiere, etc).
>Knowledge of Photoshop, Maya, Max and other 2D/3D applications
>Strong knowledge of 3DS Max/Maya and Photoshop
Therefore I assumed that Photoshop is the industry standard. Turns out everyone is secretly using CSP or Paint Tool Sai and ALT-Tabbing to Photoshop when the art director walks by.
Actually who the fuck even draws anymore, all these offers are about 3D shit. Are you art director or do you just work at chingchong mobile games

>>4129935
Well bruh that depends on what you fuckig want.
Everyone on this board seems to want to be Mr Concept Art. But then you don't need to fucking draw lol, just slap a boat motor on dome dude's head.

If you want to be an illustrator for MTG or Hearthestone all you need is to send a picture on their email. They aren't going to know or care how you accomplished it.

Honestly nobody is ever going to care as long as you output pictures that are compatible with photoshop.

I mean imagine this
>What are you doing son
>This is CSP, I'm just more comfortable like this
>I don't know what that is i need a .psd with groups and shit
>Sure thing boss you're getting a psd with layers and shit
Who in their right mind would complain if the result is good?

>>4123100
Most professional Japanese artists draw in Clip Studio or even Open Canvas. But Photoshop isn't made solely for painting.

>>4129949
Makes sense desu.

>>4129935
https://www.pixivision.net/en/a/2680

>tfw I use CSP for lineart, Sai2 for coloring and photoshop for post processing and painting backgrounds
It can be a bit cumbersome to have 3 programs open but they all have features I like best that the other doesn't offer. and I don't see the point in sticking to one program.

>>4130262
Why can't you use sai for lineart?

>>4129929
>being reliant on a computer

>>4130262
interesting. pyw pls

>>4130884
Not him, but I do almost all my art in Sai but I sometimes use CSP just for lineart too because it has some nice brushes you can't achieve with sai

>>4129510
Knowing CSP or Krita means you know PS. The interfaces and workflows are nearly identical and the skill translates seamlessly.