/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>4087704
i hate posting my characters and art work and having people ask for where they can read my webcomic. i havent even finished anything for it yet

>>4087704
Anyone else have more difficulty with the writing than art? With the art I can just keep chugging through everything, even if it takes a long time, while with the writing I constantly get stuck and keep rewriting and rewriting scenes and am never satisfied

>>4087709
Yeah haha. I hate fame and attention too. I wish I wasn't so good at drawing haha...

>>4087811
im not that good. im just embarrassed i dont have anything, so feel like im just disappointing people, making me a failure for the time being. that is all there is to it

>>4087704
Doxydoo here, don’t even fucking think about coming to my table you pissants.

>>4088018

>>4088018
>furshit that is actually appealing
So this is how it starts. Send fucking help.

>>4088035
Next thread, then.

>>4088035
yeah thats why i fucking hate threads like this. hurry up and turn it into a general

>>4087704
missed opportunity to call it the com/ic/ thread

>>4087704
webcomics are for fags

>>4087776
That's why you should first plan out your writing and story, refine it, then you do the art. Its best to have a concrete idea of where your story is going.

>>4088795
I did exactly that, man. Problem is as time passed I noticed all the flaws in my old writing

>>4087704
Is Medibang Comics a good place to go to host an attempt at a web comic? Monetization is not as important as much as having freedom over my passion project.

>>4088824
If you prioritize freedom above anything else get yourself a site, hosting and a domain only cost like ~$50 per year

>>4088827
Any info on this ? How does this even work ? Who are you paying ? Website like wix ?

>>4089214
>Who are you paying ?
You are paying a company to host the data for your website so that it will be accessible to other people on the internet.
I personally use GeekGhost, though it's not great and there are a lot more. Google "website hosting" to find yourself some lists of companies and do your research.
https://www.techradar.com/web-hosting/best-web-hosting-service-websites

>>4089214
While a site like Wix provides free hosting I would advise against it. It gives you a lot less freedom than a paid host.

>>4087704
>No crabbing or fights this time
do you realise what youre asking with this?? to abandon who we are!

>>4087776
I’m right there with you. Art is hard, but writing feels weirdly personal and matters more in my opinion. Even coming up with names can be difficult, and I feel like anything I have my characters say will just.come off cringy

>>4088117
Your father is a fag.

Are there any webcomics that are just simple fun shonen trash?

Most webcomics I've seen are either
>comedy
>politics
>romance
>2deep4u

I would happily read a webcomic about fun cool designed characters with cool powers fighting a bad guy

>>4090105
tower of god sounds right up your alley

>>4087704
Just started a new page... (there are children in these panels I'm not completely retarded,,, just... averagely retarded...)

Everytime I upload a new page I get so super demotivated to start a new one... but then one person drops a nice comment and I'm ready to go again. Wish I wasn't so dependant on external confirmation.

>>4088799
I have been drawing webcomic for the last ~12 ys, generally I like to come up with a general arc and design the characters and then simply go. Most of the time, characters develope organically in the story, even if I planned differently for them. I stick to my story, but I don't write complete scripts since most of the time I have to change too much anyway.

It's propably not the most professional approach, but as far as I read up on it, many authors stick to something like this so allow their characters to breath.

Besides, if you just start, you at least fucking start.

>>4090115
Looks pretty cool so far. You already have a website?

>>4090224
It's just a fancomic so I only post it on the normal sides, artstation, dA, tumblr, imgur etc. . I started this in Oct. 2016 so you can see how I became slighty less retarded over time... https://dalsifodyas.artstation.com/projects/w9O6g?album_id=57847 - *slighty...*

This part took me ~3 1/2 hours so far ... got a lot faster since I invested more time into learning anatomy and not having to try everything a billion times to get it right.... urgh... so much time wasted...

> I'm aware it's just a silly SW fancomic, I'm just having fun

>>4090105
>>4090105
Kill Six Billion Demons?
It's literally in the middle of a "World Martial Arts Tournament"-style arc right now.

>>4089214
>>4089349
Also check /g/. Seeing domain hosts sorted by their faults is useful, because nowhere else is like that

First page of a comic that's pretty muxh Bakuman but with math. Not returning to do more pages anytime soon, as I'm working on studies now, but I have a fun idea for a single page comic about how a guy falls in love with Nascar (based on a story some dude told me in an elevator)for when I feel good enough to drop bridgman and hands for a few days.

>>4090105
I feel like a lot of the problems with political and deep philosophical themes are how directly they are dealt with. Being subtle is key. Otherwise it feels like you are reading a lecture with occasional pictures. Making a theme so subtle that normies don't even know its there is fine. Plenty of books do that all the time.

>>4087704
why is this thread here and not on /co/? genuine question, I'm aware /co/ one isn't the best, but that's where it always was

>>4089214
Are you on discord/insta/twitter? I'll help you figure it out if you want.

>>4091144
Because this is an art board so why shouldnt it be here?

>>4091144
/co/ is about live action movies and porn fanart of cartoons

>>4090390
>Otherwise it feels like you are reading a lecture with occasional pictures.
That's the point you dullard, nobody who reads this shit in 2019 is intelligent enough to understand subtlety

>>4091190
No shit. I’m not saying that they aren’t doing it on purpose, I’m saying it’s a shit way to write.

>>4091190
I never said they don’t do it intentionally, I said that it’s a shit way to approach writing

test

rate

>>4087704
I haven't written anything in my life but I want to tell stories so bad.

anyone making some money with webcomics?

>>4091551
Not I

>>4091532
Pretty gud, slap a Google/Amazon w/e logo on the box and plebbit front page is a shoo-in.

>>4091535
Practice with short comic and read good comics more. Make it a focus of your studying like you would anything in art.

If you guys want advice about anything, hit me up.

>>4092063
I hate webcomic like this so much

Hey.
Did this a few months ago as a mock-up cover for a sf project that has been sleeping in my cardboard boxes for a while.
I've got a whole chapter done writing-wise, and enough material for like 2 or 3 more, but i intend to have them work as one-shot as well as much as I can.
No idea how I should do it artwise, painting or more classical (lines and stuff). I'll need to do waaay more test before even thinking about starting the whole comic.
Things haven't been going well lately so it's not a really good time to work on this kind of project if I intend to take it seriously anyway.

>>4092145
about time you made something new
go for a simple style with just lines, like what you used for the monster girls
that's perfect for comics

>>4092147
Yeah, haven't uploaded much lately, got pro-work that ended with a scam, and I haven't been able to focus on any work I did since, but you're probably right. I should really exercise with colors and atmosphere before though, because I have no confidence at all about being able to deliver lots of credible (or simply good-looking) environments as I am right now, skill-wise.

>>4092173
>got pro-work that ended with a scam
Not that other anon, but that sucks.

If what i think you're implying is what happened, be sure to take a lump sum up front, then milestone payments, then the final amount upon completion and delivery. Like a 30%, 20%, 20%, 30% type of deal, or at the very least 50% first, 50% after, with your next jobs.

>>4092179
Yeah, 50/50 is what I intend to do the day I'll start to do commissions, but this time it was a studio, and one a friend had (good) experience with at that, so I certainly didn't expect to be cheated out.
Guess it's kind of a rite of passage at this point, but I still feel like shit.

>>4092182
Its certainly a learning experience.

>>4087822
Aw, you will come around in time, anon it's alright. You will have your things to show the day you dedicate yourself.

>>4090107
>tfw will never achieve such amazingness as SIU

I dont know anything about drawing comics yet, how did I do on my first try?

>>4093211
always leave some space between the panels (gutter)

>>4093211
foot panel could use a sound effect if her foot is hitting the floor (tnk or something subtle)
idk what the panel under it is portraying.

>>4093211

> left foot in rope loop
> right foot dangling free
> left foot hits ground first
> where did rope loop go you lazy fuck

https://tapas.io/episode/1506499

I tried my best

>>4093647
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/A9WZZV

More high resolution version

>>4092063
how do I handle irrational hate like >>4092110 ?

chya!~

Still shit with my speech bubbles and font.

>>4093735
I don't think that statement was irrational. If they'd given a reason and it was a shit one, maybe; but they're just saying how they feel.

I want to draw my comic so bad but I need to do some research.
This is killing that shit out of me.

>>4094001
Just make shit up

>>4094113
That doesn't work on sci-fi.

>>4093755
There are speech bubble packs and kind of hand written fonts which you can use instead of doing it by hand.

>>4091190
>nobody who reads this shit in 2019 is intelligent enough to understand subtlety
>underestimates and blames his audience for his shallow writing
>still wonders why he's beg
classic

>>4091535
Everyone wanted to try themselves at being a storyteller at some point in some form or another, but they usually realize after their first try that's it's not for them.

How do people write good simple short stories? I like watching and reading a lot of anime, manga and superhero comics, but those always have such drawn out arcs and epic long stories. I'd liek to write something with fights and heros fighting villains and monsters. But maybe thats too much for osmeone who is just starting? Not sure what kind of short stories would be fun to write for someone like me. currently I'm writing some stuff so I have an idea of a story for later, and I'm working on character designs for stuff I want to draw as well.

>>4094169
you know what the "fi" in sci-fi is short for, right?

>>4094210
Read oneshots and actual short stories from the last century

>>4094194
Everyone uses ''it's not for me'' as an excuse to quit at step 1 before they're even remotely close to learning whether or not they can do it. Example: ''I'm just not good at math, that's why I don't study''. Same goes for art, if teachers like Bridgman that taught enormous classes to competency are to be believed, anyone can be at least decent at art. Talent will significantly speed up progress and give you a far higher upper limit, but the capacity of the average person is always vastly underestimated because of complacency

>>4094210
a short story should be like a poem

>>4094237
fidelity?

>>4094256
>>4094367

Yeah I'll try to find some good one hsots or shorts that fit with what I want to write. Currently I have 3 full chapters that set up the story and afterwards I plan to draw and write shorts. Think thats a good plan?

>>4093755
Are you perchance a fan of Alex Ahads work on Skullgirls?

>>4094375
generally its better to start with short projects so you get more of an idea what works in practise and what doesn't and you have some idea of the workflow
or you could google sample scripts

>>4094373
>>4094237
What is science ?
Comics with plot holes always made me cringe.
Where they go full bullshit just for convenience.
So yeah I don't want to be just another forgettable artist so I'll just work myself to death.

>>4094410

I kind of like what I have written though, maybe I'll keep it and try to work it into some shorts somehow. Or write something else entirely and return to those full chapters later? Since I'm still working out some characters designs and plot points anyway.

>>4094210
Think up a simple situation and write the scenes. You can more easily write a 30 page noire detective story or weird specific sci fi concept than you can a 30 page adventure story or some interplanetary politicical story.

>>4094418
So you have a problem with rockets that travel at the speed of light or lasers that aren’t invisible?

I’ve been working on a comic for the past 4 fucking years literally non-stop. I was so inspired by the story I quit freelancing and got a day job because I knew it would take some time to learn to write. In that time I’ve labored over this story so much that ever corner, from the underlying philosophy to the visual design is laid out. But I’m still stuck on chapter one...

I swear I’ve rewritten the first chapter over 30 times in the last 4 years, and just recently I’ve realized that this project is too big for me to chew at this moment. Me starting off with this project as a newly in writing is the equivalent of a begining game dev trying to create Destiny 3 with no previous coding knowledge or projects.

I’ve read Stephen King on writing twice.

I’ve thumbed through Arakis manga in theory and practice countless times.

I have Scott mcclouds making comics, Scott mcclouds understanding comics, and Scott mcclouds reinventing comics on my bookshelf beside me right now and atleast one is always open.

I approached this thing all wrong and I need to take baby steps. I guess what I’m trying to say is that we all need to make baby steps with this.

Writing is a completely different skill than art and in my experience (thinking skills would crossover)I’d say it’s as different basketball and cooking.

We have to start small. Two page stories studying one aspect of writing: dialog, dramatic scene, funny scene, etc.

One page stories

3 panel stories

Coming up with a story based on a prompt in less than 20mins.

This is how I think I will, and maybe you can too one day tackle that magnum opus story of yours.

I mean think about it. These short one page stories are essentially the same as a fundamental shape drawing.

If you’re inspired by this thread make a 3 panel story and post it here. 2 hrs work time max. Lets get it boyos

>>4094667
I’ll do something similar to this. Why not?

>>4093450
The panel below the foot panel is just her looking back up where she came from, after reaching the floor.

>>4093506
but thats her right foot...

>>4095030
>her right foot

How does that look like a right foot?

>>4094667
your mistake was building it up in your head as a Magnum Opus Story. The capacity to take on a large project doesn't have much to do with skill, you just convinced yourself that only perfection would do and then spent years on hand-wringing instead of story-telling because you know the second that story leaves your brain it can't be perfect anymore

I'm a year into my own, The Concord Initiative. 18th century historical fantasy. A young, impressionable, haunted king tries to spark a nationalist movement in his declining Empire. He starts a controversial program to do so. The situation degenerates as civil unrest intensifies.

I've finished my first chapter--100 pages. 2 pages a week for a year or so. Now, I'm on a three month hiatus making supplementary material and sorting out logistics of expanding the project!

Right now, I'm also going back and touching up/tweaking past pages that are not up to snuff. I don't have time to redraw them, but I can add color. But most of all, I need to rewrite a ton of dialogue. That stuff never comes out right the first few times.

https://tapas.io/series/The-Concord-Initiative
http://concord-initiative.cfw.me/
http://concord-initiative.smackjeeves.com/
https://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/the-concord-initiative/list?title_no=242087

>>4095247
The supplementary material is more work than the pages, sometimes. Still, it keeps things fresh.

>>4095248
I'm also intending on getting a social media presence going, but I've never really used any of them before. I need to nut up and just start musing on the damn things.

>>4094418
>Comics with plot holes always made me cringe.
Dumbass, plot holes are characters acting inconsistently with the information they should know. Fire that naturally burns green isn't.
>So yeah I don't want to be just another forgettable artist so I'll just work myself to death.
(also you should know that hard sci-fi makes your story read drier AND more generic- there's only one version of truth.)

>>4094902
this took more like 3 hours. Sort of went with the first idea that came to my head.

>>4095281
Good points, but I'm writing more with a serious tone.
A post-apocalyptic sci-fi to be specific so it shouldn't be just made up.

is there any horror webcomic stuff? i never seen them

I dont know shit about webcomics. What are the best ones ?? Already gonna check out Tower of Gods and Kill Six Billion Demons. What else worth reading?

>>4095486
Her Summon. Noblesse has some cool stuff, but it's repetitive. It has cool abilities and art designs for them is what I mean. God of Highschool is alright, here and there is cool stuff. Tower of God is pretty top key though.

>>4095486
https://boards.fireden.net/ic/search/text/follow%20the%20link%20you%20fuck/

also I've been recommended
https://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/oi-tales-of-bardic-fury/list?title_no=303092
https://www.webtoons.com/en/action/hardcore-leveling-warrior/ep-1/viewer?title_no=1221&episode_no=1
https://serpentbearer.com/post/157835297930
but that hardly means anything

>>4095440
Not Drunk Enough probably qualifies

>>4095440
stagtown? not a lot of it though.
https://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/stagtown/list?title_no=220692

>>4095249
>I'm also intending on getting a social media presence going, but I've never really used any of them before.
They're really not complex for your purposes, you just log in to announce there's been an update.

I did this a while ago when I got out of highschool, dont mind the typos
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>Ibrahim Coyle is just your regular con-man and a self-proclaimed PI, secret agent or whatever the client needs, as long as there's some cash on him.

https://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/ibrahim-coyle/list?title_no=270091
https://tapas.io/series/Ibrahim-Coyle

Pls rate and pls bully so I can get better

>>4096183
i really really loved that.
thank you.

>>4096183
I like it

>>4087704
where can a furfag-capitalizing porn comic artist (not furry myself) actually post their shit outside of furaffinity and inkbunny where it can get some actual traction. Most normal webcomic sites I've checked do not allow porn comics. I have no idea how to exploit the twitter game.
I've already released it and it did pretty well in getting me more followers, but I'd like some more eyes on it. It was already a commissioned work, so I'm not really looking to do that patreon-only release.
My next commissioned comic will be releasing sometime before the end of the year, so I'd like to know if there's a good place for them out there.

>>4096208
Wow, this really inspired me, Anon. Original and interesting work. Made my day!

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>>4096208
Fantastic and very enjoyable. Thanks you for sharing this with us anon.

>>4095486
stand still stay silent, unsounded, lackadaisy cats, demons mirror, a better place, and devils candy are all pretty great with top tier art.

>>4096208
Nicely done, anon.

>>4094406
I like skullgirls but i dont know Alex.

>>4096208
Pretty cool Anon, it was fun
>>4096330
I liked you pic but your comic looks nothing like that. Work on your line weight, because it's all over the place, and don't leave lines broken, it looks clumsy. The saturated random colors are quite annoying, study colours and paint from life to understand them at least a bit, if you're more focused on storytelling then just do b&w. Comics are more about the content but your art stops me from immersing in it.

Anyway, I'm thinking about making a comic because I just want to get the characters out of my head already. My problem is, I have trouble writing in arcs/issues, my ideas are more about daily random shit and it feels very forced when I try to compose a longer story. I did like 15 small pages with 2 panels, just to start something, my friends really liked them but the format started feeling inconvenient. My autistic nature forces me to plan beforehand before I start putting in effort but the story is entirely character driven, how the fuck I balance that?

>>4095509
>>4095518
>>4097085

thx!

Starting mine soon

>>4087704
Anime Fights

Fights between famous anime characters

https://tapas.io/episode/1472091

how do you background?
i have a nearly-finished script and some character designs already, but just thinking of drawing scenery makes me wanna give up. any advice?

The ''show don't tell'' rule is ,at times, realy hard to implement.

>>4098111
I strugle with the same issue, nice trips

>>4095056
I might be bad at drawing shoes but that one looks way more like a right foot than a left foot to me.

Should I make a oneshot or start with the first chapter ?

>>4095329
i like it, its really self explanatory

>>4098111
most of the time backgrounds are colors, you only really need backgrounds if they're imperative to the story

How do I become as good as Jeff Jacques?

>>4093755
Blog, webtoon?

The last time I posted in these threads I got some very helpful advice, hows this look?

the last time I posted in these threads I got really helpful advice, hows this page look?

>>4098671
oneshot, for the love of god

>>4099896
I suggest doing away with the gradients for the BGs, either keep them solid or color blotch them. As smooth as they are they stick out way too much against your messy style.

These look amazing I can't wait for you to finish your comic

>>4100002
blotches is an interesting suggestion, I never thought of trying that, i'll try it thanks anon

>>4099896
use full stops and other punctiation maybe?

>>4100077
now that you mention it that page does have a lot of "..."

>>4098717
I couldn’t think of an interesting plot that I could manage to convey in 3 panels so I just went with whatever.

>>4096183
Do you have a blog or anything? That was really enjoyable.
I suck at thinking about paneling, how do you go about it?
I was going to purchase some books by Scott McCloud about making comics & have been listening to a podcast called ComicLab for more information.

I'm thinking of buying clip studio paint now that its having a sale. Is the pro version good enough or is it better to buy the ex version? I'm a beginner so I wanted to practice some digital drawing and making comic pages with it.

>>4102464
the stuff you don't get in the cheaper version is mostly for animation, so you should be just fine with that

>>4102464
the pro version is just fine for comics. the ex version has page management for longer comics and a preview thing but you don't need that if you're a newbie

>>4096208
readable and charming, good job

>>4101826
my insta is @kennykomics for panel work i usually will plan it out on my sketch books with thumbnails to make sure everything kinda flows. The scott book is pretty good practice. Just try and if u fuck up no one cares cause only u have to read it!

>>4088034
I'll be ready with the ambulance

>>4103456
>@kennykomics
Awesome, I gave you a follow! Always enjoying seeing stuff like this and learning more :D :D

>>4087704
I’ve been working on a little project. Sketched traditionally then I’ll ink and color digitally.

I’ll also get to fix my text using easier.

Not art-related but for a webcomic with an ongoing story how far do you prepare the full plot before actually starting work on the comic? I feel like I keep procrastinating because I'm unable to come up with ideas for the story. I know what to do for important or stand-out points in the plot but because I'm not able to think of how to fill in the in in between parts I've been sitting on the story for ages

>>4099227
Sell your soul to Satan.

>>4105186
For the webcomic I'm working on, I've planned out the entirety of the story, especially the ending--it's good to have the ending, so you at least know what you're working towards.
In terms of plot points, I've listed down every point that drives the story forward--in a way, I've written it like a wikipedia story summary, except dot point form.

How wide is the scope of your plot points? Can you give any examples of them? Because the less connecting points you have, the harder it is to fill those gaps.

Also, the webcomic I work on is this one--feel free to look through it.
https://tapas.io/series/Project-SHaDe

>>4091532
is this blade runner 2049?

>want to make a comic series
>enjoy making characters but fucking horrible at plotting and incredibly indecisive
what do

>>4109071
i mean,
are you implying that webcomics are good generally? or is it that you're too proud to make a shit story?

>>4109073
I'm saying it's impossible to make a comic if you don't have any idea what's supposed to happen in it

>>4105038
>>4105608
this is some good shit.

>>4109071
go to >>>/tg/
Weird place, I know. But if you participate in some writefaggotry threads that happen there or inspirational threads and shit it's a blast, and will point you in the "right" direction of the kind of story you want to tell.

>>4087704
I've tried doing webcomics, but I can never stay invested in making them-- mostly thanks to the story having a weird ass shift in its writing, and I can't be bothered to fix it, or I later scrap it because I start hating it after re-reading it a few times.
Instead, I stick with just writing short, one off random comics like this.

I don't know whether this is the right place to post this but i'm trying to produce a background style similar to Inio Asano using photographs i've taken and editing them in photoshop.

My printers broke right now so I cant draw over it but does anybody have any other advice?

Finished the first page recently, not going to post it until I get a few pages up

>all these artists saying they hate writing
>tfw writer forcing self into art world
>hate it and wish I could just collab
I wish online collaboration wasn't such a minefield. I'd love to collab with an artist so I don't have to draw/ink/color, but as a burgeoning writer myself, I'm as poor as the burgeoning artist.

>>4111776
Why don't you start small and write some guest strips for a funny webcomic, before trying to work your way up to a full story?
Most of those artists would probably be happy to collaborate.

>>4111811
That's a really good idea, anon. It makes me wonder which webcomics would be interested in collaboration, though.

>>4111814
Get an instagram, search the webcomic hashtag for things that you enjoy/that resonate with you and then send them a message offering to write 2-5 episodes. If you offer to do one it will come across like you want free art, if you offer to do a couple it takes a bit of a load off them and is something you can use later to get more work.

How do I add screentones using krita ?

>>4096330
is that a trace of the dalmatians guy

I've been pumping out a lot of supplementary material during my hiatus, largely in the form of visual updates. Here's a few of the recent ones.

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>>4114452

How do I get popular on webtoons? I'm an okay artist with pen and paper but I'm kinda bad at digital art.

>>4114475
It doesn't really matter anon. I've seen popular webtoons with really shitty scratchy art and are only popular because of their theming and how often they post

>>4096208
Fuckin nice. Got me smiling like an idiot.

Where do I get backgrounds to trace ?

>>4097217
Blog? Porn? Please?

>>4105038
It's too busy I don't like it

dox me faggots

>>4116434
idma ass

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>>4119079

>>4119081
WIP

>discover amilova just now
>excited because english/french/spanish dynamic interface sounds exactly what im looking for, also huge userbase
>on a second thought see theres a shitton of bots promoting shit no one wants
>comments and updates wasteland with a lot of 2012-2016 posts

webcomics are just dying aren't they?

>>4119082
These are neat. Keep it up.

>>4121095
only for like the past decade, where have you been

>>4119082

As you can see, I didn't get very far because I can't into character design

>>4114450
real Courage the Cowardly Dog looking style, but I don't dislike it.

>>4095248
i would never read all this word diahrrea, just seeing this page like this makes me not want to glance at any more of your work.
It screams self importance and narcissism to me.
I'm sure many people will read and enjoy your work, I am just letting you know someone like me exists.

>>4091532
Their expressions on the first panel are fucking gold, tells you everything. I can't stop laughing, ji ne sais quoi ma dude, ji ne sais quoi.
>>4095329
I like it. But the "x level shit" line is cringe.
>>4096208
Not bad. Good jokes, except "you're ded punch"
>>4110041
That's a based self insert if I've ever seen one. Embrace your dumb shifts and try to incorporate it your story, turn your weakness into a clever quirk, you're onto something there man.
>>4111723
Logo looks to mutch like promare/killlakill, has a weebshit feel overall, super derivative. Reflections are cool, but wtf is in the middle of the blade and why it has no handle?

>>4122397
Here's an idea, your character doesn't need to be humanoid, can be a ball on a sick for all is worth, like an abandoned alien research probe with a split personality ai or some romantic shit like that. Becoming a God for the little dudes on the planet. Causing/solving wars and shit. Being killed for making too much. Some little dude saving your consciousness in a sex robot body, living a happy life with him, watch them from a new perspective, acquiring new wisdom. Leading them to a better future. Just fucking star trek basically.

Jesus, I actually used to be proud of this at one point.

>>4122945
Well, that wasn't really what I was going for (I have an actual story mapped out and stuff), but i did make THIS
It was originally just a little character sheet I made to organize things, but I could use them as stand ins for actual characters

>>4123055
Though I am capable of making actual character designs, at least abstract or "Mural" versions

>>4123015
I dont get it

>>4122890
It was an answer to a question from a QnA, so I thought I might as well be thorough.

>>4091190
Never insult your audience intelligence, there's more brains on their side than yours.
Don't make them read a scientific publication either : average people need to be able to follow something digest that looks good & those who want more could still dig the pieces you left for them!
If it feels too pretentious they will feel that, if it feels underused they will feel that.

>>4122945
*Je ne sais quoi.

>>4092145
I bug on the character design (don't like the haircut) but that cover,title, atmosphere & rendering makes me want to read further.

>>4093211
Foot panel is unnecessary imo (unless you really want to insist on the character landing stealthily & carefully), last panel could use more punch & mystery in the composition !

>>4096208
Great pace,expressive, made me want to read the rest,funny = keep going!

>>4096743
You will never receive more traction than if your stuff was normal, SFW simply because people would have more opportunities to advertise your stuff in normal situations to normal people in normal places (forget advertising your fetish furry things in the streets, in common social media, in common settings). No "dude you gotta read that new stuff, it's got a good story with nice drawings " (NSFW will only attract people who look for their fetish, making stories more than secondary, and a well adjusted person will never casually talk about the things they would do in private/intimate situations)

>>4097223
Go for an episodic format like Calvin & Hobbes or the war webcomics with blue & red soldiers in a desolated wasteland), so you "just" have to do the worldbuilding, the main characters & you have the freedom to create situations that last 1, 3 pages or influence the rest of your comic strips.

>>4111315
https://youtu.be/swBhVx9X4n8?t=851

Alrighty, been working on this comic for a while now, these are just the rough layouts with text added in. It's a cold open to the main story.

>friend tells me he's doing a short comic for a class project
>he shows me the character he made
>brown girl
>tells me the story plot
>oppression, revolution
to all anons, I can go ahead and tell you, if any of this is you, don't bother unless you only want sjw attention. If you're gonna make a comic, make it worth people's time.

>>4123194
While generally I like /ic/ being able to talk about more than porn, stop fucking lying.

https://desuarchive.org/_/search/text/out%20of%20placers/

>>4092145
this is cool

>>4124302
or unless you like piles of money, cause that's the plot of the hunger games.

>>4124366
>He thinks doing a cheap indie knockoff of a major hollywood production based off a best selling YA novel series is somehow an easy road to money

Shiggy diggy doo.

>>4124302
>don't bother unless you only want sjw attention.
You know what? I will just to trigger dismissive snowflakes like you.

>>4087704
>12,000 pages of concept art
>800 pages of plot
>300,000 pages of storyboard
>8 years of development

should i just make a movie

>>4125216
go to netflix and pitch it.

>>4090105
Easily Hardcore Leveling Hero

>>4125216
you could've just made the damn comic if you were gonna spend 8 years "developing" it

I remember when I tried making a comic when I was younger

>>4125365
>tfw you used to sit at the kitchen table for hours making one comic strip after the other
>now you're an adult with shame and expectations and you can't draw a comic to save your life

Can i shill here ?

>>4123062
Not the poster

>1 black eyed panda getting teased for having 1 black eye
>goes home and pants it to fit in
>big bro is like “ wtf ? Why u got 2 black eyes when u got one ? “
>1 eye points at them explain how it all started
>big bro plays it cool while breaking the bully’s finger

Bam

>>4125374
Ehh fuk it i’ll shill one of my shorts

http://shortsk8comic.smackjeeves.com/comics/2846979/cover/

>>4125365
>used to make superhero comics when I was 6
>main character was just called "(My name) X"
>every villain was "(adjective)-Man"
I didn't even know about Megaman.

>>4123778
maybe it's just me but it takes way too long to get anything rolling here. Unless you're an incredible artist and just trying to show off what you can do visually (which, no offense, but with these thumbnails, clearly isn't the case), there's no reason to have 4 whole pages before there's anything to actually read. What I'd suggest:
>combine p1 and 3, putting the 1 text in the top left blank spot
>find a way to cut down p4 and 5. Lots of unnecessary exposition panels that you could fit on a different page
>ditch the 3 panel grid layout or disperse it better. Add more vertical panels. Horizontal only is boring after a few pages, but it's the majority of your book
>the bottom of p8: you're never supposed to make a speech bubble tail or connecting line cross over a character unless you have no choice, but you've got more than though room for it behind the rabbit thing instead of in front, right beside the bigger bubble, and it would read the same
>move the eyes panel from 11 into the bottom corner of 10 and turn 11 into a big reveal page. There's no need to see that much of the fat guy with that much free space behind him
just off the top of my head, at a glance. A big cityscape works as an opening since you're establishing the setting, but I'd make the main focal point building from panels 4 and 5 clearly visible in panel 3. It would allow you to just sort of zoom in on it and cut a lot of the clutter in those pages. Your entire story is horizontal like I said, which is stiff and boring. Even if the writing or art were spectacular, it wouldn't be fun to read. The pages where you do use more than 3 panels still has the 3 panel layout, just with slight variations. Why so many plain black pages? Are they placeholders or for dramatic effect? If so I'd add some filler visuals looking back into the room leading into p15. Do a zoom in on a window or something, then your page 15 image, and possibly end with a zoom in on the cassette player, and you can just cut p16

>>4125952
>but I'd make the main focal point building from panels 4 and 5 clearly visible in panel 3.
I meant to write in PAGE 3, on the cityscape.

>>4125216
You have more than enough! Why don't you start already?!
(I only have a 40 pages script yet & am already going to launch it in a year)

>>4123778
You're wasting at least 3 pages here = 3 pages that could advance the plot, 3 pages that could develop the world for the reader, 3 pages that could captivate the reader.

>>4125365
I like how it doesn't look too scribbly, are you interesed in picking it up again anon?
>>4125380
Pretty fun comic, enjoyed the magic realism aspects of this (reminds me of Vargas Llosa)

>>4124873
I'm sure your webcomic will go far.

>>4090390
It's not only subtlety but self-awareness.
no one has the right/perfect answers otherwise those societal problems would've been solved by now.
The best approach is to tackle an issue while showing the good and bad of your position and opposing ones.

>>4090105
Homestuck is pretty good

Is there a site where you can sell your hentai comics digitally, other than patreon? like a real digital comic store.

>>4105608
That's some good shit right there, I'm impressed. How long does it take you to draw a page?

>>4130682
Lol at the comment on artstation about this piece! Theyre stolen off photos!

>>4091532
Excellent. I didn't laugh, but I thought it was clever and made me think for a bit.

>>4092063
heheh i liked it.

>>4130954
>Theyre stolen off photos!
>Theyre stolen off photos!
>Theyre stolen off photos!
>Theyre stolen off photos!
>Theyre stolen off photos!

the word is reference. he has gumroad videos drawing them from scratch on a blank canvas.

>>4130954
>this portrait drawing is stolen off a photo!
thanks for the laugh beglet

>>4130952
Depending on what's on the page, it takes around 1-2 hours.
At times where I'm really going madman and drawing as quick as I can, I can usually squeeze it to just under an hour.

>>4125376
that's horrible

How do you deal with style change as you draw the same characters over and over?
Should I let style change happen naturally or force the original style I was working in?

>main comic is way too fucking big and ambitious for a first project
>decide to write a few short comics as sort of a practice
>computer overheats and crashes constantly on the canvases
>plan was to publish these in the summer and then start posting the main comic in november/december
>it's september and i'm nowhere near close with scrounging up new computer parts to get this shit fixed
i've been planning out the main comic for two fucking years and have a lot of the scripts done, i really don't want to push this shit into next year, but i don't want to go straight into the main comic either without doing these shorter comics because i know it'll probably fuck me over

>>4125952
>>4126279
Thanks for the comments and advice. I went back and redid everything to try and make it flow better and get to the point.
How is it now?

How often do you update your comic (for those of you who do it as a hobby)? I tried once a week in the beginning, but being a wage-cuck takes it's toll and I now more comfortably update about every two weeks. I draw (too) slowly and I need to have time for some social stuff and just chilling. Feel a bit bad for the people reading it, but I honestly can't be arsed to do it any faster...

>>4133062
Paper and pencil never fail

>>4133380
i considered that briefly but my traditional work is especially terrible in comparison to my digital stuff, it's not something i'd be satisfied with publishing. i don't have access to a scanner or even a decent camera anyway

Was my style appealing? This is a sketch of a unfinished webcomic from 2012. I got inspired to draw again from finding this in a drawer, actually complete something and publish.

>>4133311
This is already leaps and bounds better. I like the panel variations a lot more and you appear to have tackled pretty much every issue I listed. Just remember, 3 panel grids are your friend too. Don't completely stop using them because of my previous comment. You just can't use the same grid layout in succession too much. The only thing I'd change about this one is the perspective on the fence panel on page 1. Maybe do a somewhat elongated shot in 1 point perspective and add a shadow on the ground pointing towards it. If you go with this, possibly put the above panel's building inside a vague diamond frame to simulate the viewer looking at it through a fence, making panel 3 feel like more of a zoom out. The fourth panel on p3 (above big rabbit in bottom corner) has room for that word balloon to come outward if you need the space. Remember, the images should be limited to panels, but the words can expand as far as you need them to. Fat guy talking in p5 panel 5 can overlap that hand above, for another example. One other tidbit though, I know I told you to fit more on each page to eliminate useless pages, but don't forget to give readers some time to rest and relax. Landscape pages/panels or just big panels with little dialogue mixed in can go a long way. You had a lot of them at first, but they were all at the beginning, and one at the end, but if this is the beginning it can be excused since you need to get the story rolling.

In any case, I enjoyed skimming through these panels a lot more. You did good to improve.

>>4133646
You definitely need work on your fundamentals. If you sharpened your style, and I came across your page, I'd at least have a look around and throw you some likes. Right now you definitely don't have it though. Try Fun with a Pencil by Andrew Loomis. Most anime styles can be broken down into the Loomis formula.

>>4133490
>>4133062
What makes your digital art better? ctrl+z? You're only helpless because you're choosing to be helpless. Get better on paper meanwhile saving up money for a better computer or replacement parts. Shit happens. Your comic is gonna be postponed anyways now. Plus if you decided to do some filler comics first in the summer and then wait until November to do more, you were planning on having downtime anyways. So are you just gonna sit and stagnate because now you "can't" draw until your computer is fixed? Get better on paper and try to get some commissions. Then use that money to buy what you need, and after practicing to get good enough to sell commissions, your comics will benefit from it. You don't have to do the comics on paper if you don't want to, but ignoring paper overall is just dumb, especially when your shit is busted.

>>4133375
if you have a good sized reader base, you can get away with 1 every 2 weeks, or do a panel a week or something. Just don't let them starve. What I do is think about shit that I want to happen in my comic while I'm wage cucking myself. You definitely need to speed things up though. Would you mind posting a panel of your work and telling me how long it took you? If you're willing, don't bullshit me. Give me a panel that falls in the middle of the pack as far as detail goes.

>>4133818
nah it's stabilisers, i have fucked hand-eye coordination so my art on paper looks super dodgy. that wasn't what i meant anyway, i can still draw digitally and i've been taking commissions to save up for the components, just not on larger canvases with loads of different layers/folders so working on something like a comic page causes it to crash. i do traditional stuff as well, i just don't show it anywhere. there's a reason why i specifically said i wouldn't be happy publishing that. i might try duping down on the resolution and make it black/white for now

>>4133818
I don't have a lot of followers, but enough to make me feel a little proud, haha. It's always nice to get some actual response to things you create, and I'm lucky to get that. I'm afraid I won't post any of my own work, I like my anonymity a bit too much, but my style is... think Jeff Smith, just shittier and with some shading. Hard to give an estimate on time, I draw a little here and a little there... but I still know I'm slow as ass. And since it's un-payed hours, I have to have fun doing it and want to do it. On some days (like today) I'm just too goddamn tired after work to even think about lifting the stylus!

>>4134431
which Jeff Smith style? He has a few. Cartoony, monsters which land sort of in the middle, or his more serious (by comparison) works? If it's closer to the cartoony style, you really should work on your work ethic because to be entirely honest there's no reason to not put out a page or so a week. The simpler your characters and/or backgrounds are to draw (and/or the less complex your story is), the more you should be posting. Work to be able to draw your own shit accurately, faster. You can't wait to be motivated because otherwise nothing gets done. 3 hours have passed since you posted that reply. Plenty of time to unwind and do whatever, and then pick up the stylus. Hell bring a notepad and pen with you wherever you go and just doodle during waiting periods. Doodling in pen removes the take-backs, so when you fuck up one doodle, you'll know what not to do on the next one. Plenty of time in the day can be utilized that we typically overlook, and especially if your characters are simple, you can utilize it to get faster. Draw them from different angles, doing different things, etc.

>>4134368
do 1 panel per file and then overlay 5 or 6 of them on an actual page, perhaps? I get not wanting to publish traditionally, it really is a pain in the ass by comparison.
>stabilizers
shape rulers are dirt cheap. If your computer really shits the bed, $20~40 in a hobby shop can go a long way.

hey /ic/ some anon posted a single page of a web comic he made and im looking for it

he had a character that looked a little like red X from teen titans and a cute grill sidekick

the page went something like
>grill: "im ready to be your sidekick, do you like my new costume"
the costume is very scant and inappropriate
>guy: im not letting you go out like that, take it off
>grill (fake flustered): No! at least take me out to dinner first

Idunno i just wanna see it again

hey /ic/ some anon posted a single page of a web comic he made and im looking for it

he had a character that looked a little like red X from teen titans and a cute grill sidekick

the page went something like
>grill: "im ready to be your sidekick, do you like my new costume"
the costume is very scant and inappropriate
>guy: im not letting you go out like that, take it off
>grill (fake flustered): No! at least take me out to dinner first

Idunno i just wanna see it again

Got involved in that KSBD competition, hadn't really tried making a proper comic before so I don't have experience with panelling or making conversations seem natural.

Thoughts, advice? This is the first page but imo the best one.

>>4134638
might try the singular panel at a time and arrange them onto the page idea, i'm worried that might end up losing some panel flow and consistency but that's definitely a possible option. i will probably end up just going black/white to begin with though at least

I'm gonna get better, just you guys see

I've made like four of these months ago and now I'm debating whether or not to try again.

https://www.newgrounds.com/playlists/view/93c7dcd0352ba520c5073f982aef0f54

>>4124851
i'm just saying, most premises look like shit on paper

I have no idea how to get started with a webcomic. Lots of ideas and /beg/ skills but no clue on how to go forward.

>>4125216
You might try doing some sort of multi-media project.
Publish the storyboards, maybe with some cleanup, and put the rest into a linked wiki.
There's probably some way to more deeply integrate all those thousands of pages of plot and concept art, maybe letting people click on specific parts of the image.
Idk.

Am I ready to make a webcomic ? I'm not really cut out for solo illustrations.
I know my works are edgy, please bear with it.
Don't know if it looks funny or dark either, please no bully.

>>4142473

>>4142478
Last one.

>>4123778
>>4133311
I wouldn't mind an opening with the splast of the city in page 3 of the old post, and page 5 as is instead of the current page 1. I think you did a good job, it flows well for a scene that is mostly talk.
>>4096208
I kekd

>>4142473
It really is between dark and funny for me. As it stands it would work for a dark comedy.

>>4142473
Looks like one of those depth illusions with impossible geometry. Hand is clearly ahead of her head but then the knife disappears.

>>4097217
BLOG?
PLEASE!
BLOG?
PLEASE!

Just one more panel before I go fuck myself

First day of Inktober: The Ring

30 days of lore nuggets. Not ink drawings, I know, but it's strangely enough more difficult to get a pen and paper together than it is the tablet.

>>4144248
Day 2: Mindless

With the comic on hiatus, I find myself putting out more content than during the actual comic run. Hopefully the pages can come faster on this next chapter.

>>4097217
BLOG.
pretty please!

Will someone there would actually draw backgrounds for free ? Help with the story for free ? I don't draw with any salary either.

Is hosting your comic on your own self hosted and self designed site a bad idea?

Started this
https://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/massassage/list?title_no=344098

>>4146146
it's a fine idea, maybe not cost effective at first, but how are you advertising

>>4146183
it's horrible

>>4144251
Day 3: Bait

>>4148113
Day 4: Freeze

Is Tapas or WebToons friendly to traditionally made comics?The Vast majority of stuff I see is digital

>>4148939
AWAKEN MY MASTERS

Hypothetically speaking if someone came to you with good material written and ready to be made into a webcomic would you be interested in collaborating?

>>4148956
I'd collab with a writer who can flourish MY ideas.
Like do some research and fix my grammar mistakes.
When it comes to writing. There is an actual high chance that your ideas are bad. I always realize how bad my ideas are mid-way through.

>>4148939
webtoons really likes colors so I think as long as it is colored it should be okay on there
the handmade/trad made look of paper can also lend to a nice aesthetic

>>4148114
Day 5: Build

i've thought of starting a small circle of independent comic creators who publish stuff together kind of like an internet zine
would people be interested in this or nah

>>4149213
I think your artwork has a lot of problems, but honestly I'm in absolute awe of your dedication.

>>4149227
Hopefully, one will solve the other in time.

>>4149213
Day 6: Husky

>>4090105
Scoob and Shag.

>>4087704
need to get my ratigan practice in to get my comic to the next level

I'm just gonna vent a bit here

>be me
>make webcomic (duh)
>chapter 3 deadline was september 27
>don't make it on time
>today
>not ready yet, still needs some work
>really want to just release it anyways and move on to chapter 4 as quick as posible.

i'd rather release this thing unfinished and move on rather than getting stuck polishing things forever, but i don't know... any advice?

>>4151124
Day 7: Enchant

>>4154429
Day 8: Frail

>>4153491
It will bother you immensely if you rush it. Finish it well, and you will feel secure in moving forward. As with most creative projects, it's a marathon, not a sprint.

>>4154431
>>>4094406
good stuff, very eye catchy/candy

>>4096198
nice

>>4154431
Day 9: Swing

>>4156060
Day 10: Pattern

>>4156061
Day 11: Snow

>>4156060
>>4156061
>>4158641
neat

>>4139941
place, era motiff...looks interesting
i downloaded a high tier poet's book and he remade a lot of his poems
>>4136280
ill be waiting brather
>>4123015
a bit emo but it looks fun

>>4158641
Day 12: Dragon

>>4158649
Thanks, I like to think so

here's a recent redesign of one of my characters, her left arm is going to be a bit more bulkier in the comic and more obviously segmented. need to work on making poses less stiff and boring

>>4087704
my latest page. the odd thing is that this isn't the best page of a comic ever made so far
https://mspfa.com/?s=32071&p=14

Will I get sued for tracing backgrounds on google ?

>>4160530
a lot of mangaka do that

My only try at it, old work.

>>4160530
Why not use it was reference instead and add your own artistic spin to it?

>>4159929
you might want to redesign this so it has more shapes and less patterns, redrawing the arm and that korra buttcape are going to become very unfun after the first few panels

>>4161301
i'm just going to simplify a lot when it comes to it since i have a good idea of how that'd look anyway. the patterns aren't very time-consuming to draw since i draw them pretty quickly with loose strokes

>>4159824
Day 13: Ash

There was some guy back then that said using certain fonts are not allowed. How true is this ?
I'm using Krita. I'm gonna add common fonts like DigitalStrip, Wildwords, Zud Juice, and CC Astro City.

hell I didn't know they had a webcomic thread here too! hi all

>>4161753
Day 14: Overgrown

>>4163088
Now we're cooking with gas.