/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

oh wow, you actually did make a new thread

>>4090174
>discord

are these threads worth it?

too western

not anime

>>4090200
got that one out of the way pretty quick this time

>>4090204
You forgot:
"Only studies" is bullshit

>aquanigger

What's the difference between this and /alt/?
Ok good to go.

>>4090216
Wait wait shit, we need the anon that posts irl refs because OP refs are always meh!

>>4090174
>*Don’t aimlessly study the fundamentals or anime. Learn the fundamentals (form, values, color, composition, etc.) through properly copying anime.**
So for someone with virtually no experience with drawing, is the idea to jump straight into studying other artists? I imagine a basic primer on the fundamentals first would be ideal

So you faggots going to post what you're "studying" from or are you going to continue to play buttgrab and circlejerk each other?
>>4090217
Here's one, hop to it.

>>4090221
Done!
Quick, what's the next thing that always happens in these threads, we're gonna speedrun through this shit!

>>4090226
>skipping hands
Draw us 20 different hands and don't come back after you do nigger.

>>4090227
>20 hands
Oh anon, I only need to draw 2.
Ulness you have a thing for pic related!
Ohohohohoho!

>>4090220
do both. study some fundamentals then artists you like. if youre going to only study fundamentals, you'll get bored very quickly (unless you enjoy it for some reason)

>>4090281
I've got lots of artists I'd be interested in emulating, but do you have any good starting points for learning the basics?

>>4090200
It can be if someone has the anime eyes guide and the Japanese thin lineart tips.
>>4090216
This one champions Pixiv and Danbooru above other sites.

>>4090177
>>4090239
Anyone know a good tutorial on drapery like on these pics?

>>4090307
It's very hard to say where to start from 0. I know this is a generic response, but check out the sticky. Do some exercises, read some shit, and then just draw. Always draw. Once you get comfortable drawing and learning techniques like smooth confident lines, attempt to draw your favorite artists. You can do this soon, it won't be a year-long wait to just do something fun. Just make sure to balance practice with fun drawing so you don't get bored.

>>4090216
lol yes, totally forgot those gems
>>4090221
ok i did one, let's see yours

>>4090174
God I wish that was me

>>4090217
I'm out of new materials on my phone. I'll look into my folders later

>>4090180
This isn't up to the quality standard the 3 previous pictures set.

>>4090588
>>4090217
something maybe easier
are you guys up for stylized faces

>>4090180
I just realized this character is a complete rip off of a classic character. Why are westerners such hacks.

Asking again just in case : can anyone 3xplain Hi Toriyama's eyes stylization (say, adult happy goku and adult angry goku) work? I don't get it

>>4090625
suck my dick you fucking weeaboo faggotretard cumbrain

>>4090636
must've struck a nerve in ya huh

>>4090636
Eat shit and die, retarded pigskin.

>>4090633
Can you post some examples

cute refs!

>>4090647
Panel 1 : serious
Panel 2 : chill
Not the best I could find but that will do

>>4090647
>>4090692
Another serious

>>4090692
>>4090693
Im not sure what explanation you need but he eyebrow placement is what makes his expression change from neutral to angry

Why do you want to draw lolis? You're not some sick disgusting pedophile aren't you?

>>4090786
I just like all body types.

>>4090786
It makes Roasties seethe, normies leave and cunnysseurs pleased.

>>4090786
Because they're cute and funny

>>4090786
>110cm
Conceptualize.

>>4090829
perfect height for a standing blowjob

Anyone have a good reference for female head constructions at numerous angles?

>>4090850

>>4090868
This is great, thanks.

>>4090617
I went overboard with this but had a lot of fun
I'll see if I can draw the others tomorrow

>>4090942
GOD DAMN this shit is what I live for

>>4090614
Glasses are difficult. Someone please help me out with those.

>>4090618
hmm

>>4090942
Been a while puddin'

>>4090971
Decided to colour it.

Are these threads only about anime? What if I want to study western styles?

>>4091051

>>4089439

>>4090971
If that's yours that's pretty good man

>>4091056
Thanks anon. It's definitely mine

>>4091055
OP suggests that /alt/ is for your personal work, and this thread is for studies. Pretty much the same is written in the /alt/ OP.

>>4091154
Shit, just post your work wherever you want in this board if you want to make a thread for your own go ahead stop listening to these faggots that dictate you where you should post it really doesn't matter.

The fuck is wrong with CSP's persp ruler? It's useless

>>4090993
I like this. It looks like Il'ya's work from the thumbnail

>>4090993
convincing

>>4091253
how so?

>>4090615
>>4090616
>>4090620
Fold I guess.

>>4090188
reminds me of skull girls

>>4090616

>>4090614

Any resources on how to draw faces well?

>>4090616

been a while, didn't realise this gen was a thing
the people in the refs were too cute to resist

wanna be less stiff- any recs on anime artists with clean but dynamic/expressive linework
specific animators, perhaps?

>>4090971
I drew my process sorta, breaking it down into rectangle planes
another tut thing
https://kelpls.tumblr.com/post/72173837544/im-having-a-hard-time-drawing-different-glasses

>>4091484
h-handsamu

>>4091514
v nicely smug, but maybe watch out for that chin

How do you study anime heads so you master the forms completely? Most artist do 3 quarters, front or side views without fully understanding most facial features such as cheeks, nose bridge etc. Ask them to draw a head from a lower angle for example, i'm pretty sure they won't be able to get them right and rather than understand the forms, they're going to rely on refs (unlike pic). So how do you master these forms to a point were you're almost a 3D software? Do you grind constructions, spend days learning the forms and eventually you master it? Or in the end, is it just about slowly getting used to each angle after spamming sketches without necessarily understanding these forms perfectly?

>>4091553
If you're trying to understand how to draw complex forms like that of heads and faces then you're really hindering yourself by drawing from anime. Most of the form in anime heads is purposefully flattened and over-simplified for the sake of style and speed of animation. There's a lot of information missing that you'd have to make up yourself.

Just bite the bullet and start drawing from life so you can really learn this stuff far more quickly and effectively. Then you can take that knowledge and apply it to your own stylized drawings.

Photoshop users, what presets or custom brushes do you like to use for line art?

>>4091048
I like this, it has a cool aesthetic to it. I really think the color values should be pushed a bit further. I tried editing the colors, but also kept it 'light-colored' to fit your original study style.
take my feedback with a grain of salt though, I'm intermediate /beg/ tier and replied to both help(hopefully) and practice colors myself. Sorry in advance if I fuck up and dunning-kruger, and I'll gladly stick my ass up in the air for everyone to fuck it into oblivion

>>4091553
anime doesn't have much forms to the head, it is more about flat design style

>>4091566
what if i already have let's say decent fundamentals for constructions, pic is stuff i did like 2 years ago. but i still feel a constant struggle when i draw anime heads, and this pisses me off terribly, though i should probably accept i'm too bad

God, why does my lineart (or even quick/sketchy lineart) suck so much ass compared to my sketches?

It's such a fucking hamper when trying to finish/clean up something. Also, my hair is really flat.

>>4091615
forgot to upload pic

>>4091615
>>4091617
You don't connect your lines because you don't know line weight.

>>4091619
I've seen other artists never connect their lines but still have somewhat decent quick lineart even with barely any line weight. That's what I'm confused about.

>>4091622
If that's the style you're going for, then you're just going to have to draw some more and figure it out yourself.

>>4091591

>>4091623
Lineart is just so overwhelming. I just want to be able to make something not a sketchy mess to be presentable. I've seen art like pic related and realize I overthink shit too much, but then I get lost trying to do it myself.

>>4091624
Might as well throw in my stuff from a few months ago.

>>4091624
She has a thousand yard stare and isn't focused on reading that book instead she's staring at empty space. It is as if you placed a lifeless manikin to imply it's reading a book instead of actually reading it, notice the angle of the head from the reference that is tilted more downward and her eyes are looking down at the book instead of being more worried at making sure you can get to see here eyes on camera. With that being said you can't help but feel an uncanny presence.

>>4091624
>>4091633
I'm sorry. I forgot your blog. Do you mind reminding me?

>>4091642
I don't really use my pixiv accnt too much lately but here it is

https://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=7424981

>>4091607
attached pic shows otherwise though

>>4091553
The more I draw, the more I am convinced this is all guessing. You can place the oval and do few lines for face direction, but the rest is all guessing from experience. Even those are guessing too.
All the constructions you find for them are just always few the same angles. You got front and 3/4 and whats between? Who knows, so you can just make some guesses.
And it's so easy to mess it up if its not perfect. Make the oval bit skewed, place the eyes bit to side, make the space between eyes wrong or the chin bit to the side and it's gonna be all wrong.
I'm sure some people can just imagine those shapes easily and are very accurate at estimating.

>>4091608
If you're struggling to draw simple anime heads then you're nowhere as good as you think you are. If you're very good in head drawing from life then drawing anime heads is a cake walk

>>4091802
drawing something from life and drawing something from imagination is different though, no? i could draw from life pretty well but be shit at sketching, construction, proportions and vice versa. Also, I can get an anime head done and have it look solid, that's relatively easy. but that depends on the angle, a tough one would require more effort to get the forms and volumes right, and usually i'd do that with tons of construction and a brainfuck, and maybe after 2 hours i'd have it done

>>4091751
what i want is to be able to draw any angle possible, not make an approximative guess and hope it's going to look fine by relying on a previous spam of studies of a certain angle... why do we learn constructions, volumes etc then? the heads in pic are still perfectly build and the lines aren't an approximative guess.

>>4091633
>>4091624
>>4091602
>>4091591
>>4091520
>>4091514
>>4091484
>>4091483
>>4091466
>>4090993
>>4090942
nice work!

>>4091892
Where's yours?

>>4090180
Garbage

Is there a good guide on how to deconstruct a drawing when copying? Specifically for the head.

>>4091940
https://youtu.be/ko3Zaw8zffk?list=PLd9YlgrhwWqCSiGwPwA_N_nqKfTLY1Kn8

This guy specifically breaks down actual anime art heads and goes through the process. Check this out.

>>4091884
Well there were no construction supplied to those heads and its yet again 3/4, front and slightly raised lowered. Probably drawn from the "construction" that only applies to those views, that is a mix of simple head shape and a lot of guessing and fixing. It's always the same angles, always the front and 3/4, forever and ever.
I don't think there is any full method of constructing heads at any angle. You can just make basic sphere, give it direction and approximate the features from memory, experience or guessing.

>>4091703
ahem

>>4091622
>>4091615
Try connecting your lines first before learning how to disconnect them. Also, study a lot of lineart you like and analyze what makes them clean and appealing

I love the way this artist shows weight

>>4091608
don't listen to retards like >>4091802

watch pin2d and then copy hundreds of anime heads from your favourite doujin/mangas you'll get better at it eventually.

crabs like him will never get better, they spend all of their time rationalizing instead of fucking JUST DRAWING.

any tips for rendering eyes? I feel like when I try to study there are so many elements that its hard to break them down

>>4092410
Think in term of layers. Start identifying the bottom-most one.

>>4092410
Sauce on your pic?

>>4092427
Bro, how can you not identify pixiv filenames at this point?

>>4092445
I don't hang around pixiv alot

>>4092469
nvm found the sauce

>>4091897
already posted :)

>>4092228
Any advice on starting out studying line art? It seems a bit more complex to start than the rest

>Still doing pen as anon suggested to practice line confidence
>Holding fine doing references here and there
>Check the thread and try to do >>4090618
>Soon realize there are a lot of extremely dark areas
>See a sharpie marker on the corner of my eye, give it a shot
>2 seconds later
I've made a huge mistake

>>4091602
Thanks anon for the kind words. I'm not gonna lie, I forgot to disable flux when I coloured it so your edit is actually a lot closer to what I had in mind.

>>4091627
>>4091617
Are you using csp

>learn a new technique from picking it up watching a stream
>draw over old work with artist technique
>a whole lotta yikes "was I really doing that" this whole time?
Christ, I'd puke my entire stomach out when I reach pro level years from now thinking my turds were even a 1% good.

>>4092709
Yeah. The first post's isn't mine btw

>>4092709
I second this. How the fuck do I do lineart in CSP? How the fuck do I even sketch on CSP? All the brushes feel like absolute garbage!

>>4091553
How did you learn to draw haeds, these are actually impressive to me

>>4092723
I find CSP's brush engine and configurations way better than PS or SAI. Have you checked the assets site? They have nice textured brushes you can use there.

>>4092208
attached pic that is from >>4091553
or is what i'm saying not making any sense?

you: anime doesn't have much forms to the head, it is more about flat design style

picture from >>4091553 : literally constructed heads where you clearly see and feel the volumes, opposite of flat

>>4092350
but it's literally me who's trying to rationalize an approach instead of drawing D: but i guess that's an answer i can hold on to...

>>4092736
not mine anon, but i wish i could do them as good as here... apparently, you just gotta guess where to place certain elements of what you draw and hope that in a few years you'll be guessing where to place them better than before

When you add shadows and highlights to a base color, do you typically select those shadow and highlight colors or do you just use black/white over the base and toggle the opacity?

>>4092831
Always select the color you want. Alpha blending with white or black desaturates your colors. It's unmanageable.

>>4092831
I pick a different hue from the color wheel. Using range of only black/white is not recommended for shadow/highlights

>>4091483
what filter or tweak are you using to get those "shaft" lines? Really like them

>>4092941
What advice can you give me for lineart? Do you use high stabilizers? Do you go slowly or quick strokes, etc.

>>4092941

Dude, stop putting 20 minutes of work into the fucking hair and look at the pose. Her torso's a mile long, by your drawing.

>>4092977
torso works fine imo, better a bit too long than short (steve huston says this)

>>4090620
I have a hard time slowing down and doing construction first...

>>4092977
I think they're fine.

>>4092941
>>4093353
Love these!

>>4092920
I'm not sure what you mean by shaft lines? My english is dum dum

>>4093353
>that huge head
Absolute yes.

>>4092941
this is mostly just aesthetic stuff but I think it looks better if you filled her lineart with white instead of dark yellow color. Having a lighter color than the bg color make her pop out more

>>4090616

god I feel like all I do is practice and when it comes to apply what I learned I just fucking fall apart. I can't line properly, paint, or anything. All I can do is sketch and I'm sick of just being stuck there.

>>4093515
Post work.

>>4093540
im this retard >>4091617
just tried linearting a doodle i had and it came out flat and retarded as fuck. i just wanna clean up pictures to be presentable. i feel like i lose something when i try to clean up

>>4093621
Unrelated, but do you follow deel? Your style reminds me of him

>>4093657
Never heard of him, link me please!

>>4093621
Don't just "practice" mindlessly.
Find out what's wrong, practice it, try to fix that, then look back, find out what's wrong, fix it, repeat. And don't think to reply "everything about my work is bad", that just means you don't know what's wrong with it. That is for you to find out and fix.
Don't just draw a head in the same angles several times without questioning what looks bad.
"Just draw" is a meme on its own but an extremely helpful mindset if you interpret correctly.

>>4093664
Oh, I'm well aware not to practice mindlessly. That picture was just me sketching random shit. I know what's wrong, my post before was just me being a bitch because I was in a bad mood. I'm fully aware of whats wrong but my problem is that I feel like I'm not ironing out issues like lineart (which itself is much more difficult to practice than like sketching asses or something)

>>4093666
Satania is kinda derpy, the rest is 10/10 imo, well done anon.

>>4093666
Very nice, i like the loli in the middle with the hat

>>4093621
i think focusing on lines right now is putting the cart before the horse. your sketches are too loose. the reason you think you can sketch but fail to do the lines is because the loose sketches hide your weaknesses from yourself, and as a result they don't give you the correct information to proceed with the final lines
>>4093666
your eyes really got a lot tighter since the redline, nice job anon

>>4093767
fuck you, I was looking for a loli in the middle with a hat

>>4093819
lmao

>>4093802
GMI-anon, is that you?
It's "can't draw eyes well" anon from before, I'm slowly sucking less at eye placement, thanks for the tips

>>4093831
we're all gonna make it brah

>>4093802
>i think focusing on lines right now is putting the cart before the horse. your sketches are too loose. the reason you think you can sketch but fail to do the lines is because the loose sketches hide your weaknesses from yourself, and as a result they don't give you the correct information to proceed with the final lines
thank you for this, this is something no one's ever told me before. and i've been crying about cleaning up pictures for months. i just wish you didnt redline a less than 5 minute sketch but it still helps nonetheless. i understand construction (a little bit, i guess) but trying to make it have form and look not flat is something harder to accomplish.

what would you prescribe, doctor?

>>4093846
i would do hitokaku cover to cover with a pen (dont erase, draw it again if you screw up), but you might want to brush up on the basics of perspective beforehand (specifically eye level, because it seems to be the root of your cross contour issues). always think about whether a form is coming toward you or going away from you.

i would also say that i am unlicensed and you should get a second opinion

>>4093511
>tfw actually doing worse with practice
Can I get some feedback on this one? as always it feels terrible on head features placement

>>4093848
Sounds good to me, I'll try it. Yeah, doing cross contour on heads is still tricky for me (which is embarrassing). Most videos and shit I've read STRESSED to be loosed so I just followed the advice. Maybe I just read it wrong. Thank you though.

>>4093849
That line you placed on the neck gives a wrong sense of rotation for the head, it should be the other side. As it is right now, that curved line gives the impression that her entire neck and head is facing one angle while the shoulders and torso face another.

>>4093841
Thid one was my last piece, the eyes are still not good enough.
I rushed through this rendering this one because goddamn, it's so plain and boring.

>>4093865
(Cont.)
Forgot the image, sorry for any misunderstanding.

>>4093848
>i would do hitokaku cover to cover with a pen
which book is this again? i cant find it in the mega

Well I kinda learned how to draw in the 3/4thish view but still have a lot to learn.

>>4093849
it's pretty nice, anon. it's got a lot of soul which i took out with my paintover. in a 3/4 view, try to push out the corner between the side plane and front plane of the head more. it also helps to pay attention to heads in real life and analyze the proportional ratio between the side and the front depending on orientation. do this by superimposing a cube on the head in your mind's eye
don't be afraid to have the glasses cover up parts of the eye depending on perspective (although i'm not sure i should be giving tips on glasses considering i've never drawn them before). in regards to the placement of facial features, it should come naturally provided you fulfill two conditions:
1. prerequisite understanding of the perspective involved
2. lots of observation (to remember proportional relationships)
>>4093865
what character is that? she's got one hell of a way of hiding hands haha.
>I rushed through this rendering this one because goddamn, it's so plain and boring.
anyway i wouldn't be so hard on it anon, she's really cute and you've really improved
>>4093868
over here:
https://mega.nz/#F!UcNG2AiT!jeyWwP1gtQXXz6R29o5bgw!lNdRACzI

>>4093867
It's that Fate girl, I mixed her ballet outfit and penguin hoodie.

>>4093911
>>4093916

Also, thanks!

>>4093916

>>4093949

This is a fun game

>>4093966
OwO the reflected light under the sack and shaft really rounds out the form, incredible

>>4093969

Thank you! I used to draw yaoi back in the day. Must have been all that practice.

>>4093911
So, I just study/copy the drawings on each page? I can't read Japanese very well, so I'm just asking.

>>4093974
yeah just copy it and think about what it's trying to tell you. it should be pretty self explanatory. the theory is really simple: flat proportions, put into perspective as a plane, and then slowly expand the third dimension to create a solid form. then it just goes into a bunch of practice with different poses for you to grind out to get used to using the method

>>4093911
Thank you a lot for your paintover. I'll try to understand the differences on construction and how to go about things.
>try to push out the corner between the side plane and front plane of the head more
I have trouble understanding what do you mean by this.
>do this by superimposing a cube on the head in your mind's eye
No mind's eye here but i can use a cube on top of other things during construction to assist me.
Again thank you a lot for taking the time with it and for the helpful advice.

>>4093982
Cool, I'll do it as soon I can. This is actually something I never practiced -- I went straight into loose/gesturial drawing which maybe helped. But now I see I'm too loose and can't convey the information to push a drawing forward.

>>4091633
>>4091624
Cool lines

>>4093412
oh sorry, as in "studio shaft" you know, that kind of glowing linework

>>4094149
most likely he's using CSP's real G-pen or any textured pen. Its a great pen tool for making lines appear more a little rough that makes it feel more natural

>>4094184
qt

>>4094149

Copy line work layer and fill with desired color. Apply gaussian blur and layer opacity to taste

>>4094149
basically what this anon said >>4094235
>duplicate lineart
>apply gaussian blur
>set blurred layer to multiply or whatever effect you like

>>4094199
yea I'm using this one https://assets.clip-studio.com/en-us/detail?id=1695958

>>4094242
thank you!

btw, by "duplicate lineart" you mean the layer where lineart is located or is a more specific function?

>>4094263
Copy entire lineart layer > set gaussian blur

>>4094263
>by "duplicate lineart" you mean the layer where lineart is located
yep, select where the lineart layer is then right-click>Duplicate layer, or CTRL+J for CSP/PS

>>4090616

>>4094543
Other Touhou Anon? I'm the guy who requested Marisa. Nice job

>>4093802
thanks, i'm still keeping that redline im mind, i can copy a ref with certain accuracy but when it comes to face features and hands the spaghetti drops
>>4094184
>i wish i could draw lines as good as yours, great work
>>4094547
Thanks anon, next time i will try Youmu or Reimu (and won't hide the arms, kek).

>>4093802
thanks, i'm still keeping that redline im mind, i can copy a ref with certain accuracy but when it comes to face features and hands the spaghetti drops
>>4094184
i wish i could draw lines as good as yours, great work
>>4094547
Thanks anon, next time i will try Youmu or Reimu (and won't hide the arms, kek).

>>4094273
>>4094275
thanks!

How the hell do I draw like Katsuhiro Otomo?

>>4094577
No problem. I like what you did with the hair. What's your process when sketching it?

>>4094932
just study and copy him

>>4090618

How often do professional anime artists (people who make stuff like >>4090175) use the pen tool/magic wand/etc and how much of it is done "by hand"? Frankly I like painting everything by hand better, but I'm not really sure what the benefits are (total /beg/ here), and if it's only better and saves more time to use more tools then I guess I should just do that instead.

>>4095608
take that western trash out here nigger

>>4090617

>>4095886
Very nice! Reminds me of Korean anime styles

>>4095608
She looks plastic but I think you should keep going in this direction, just polish up you fundies and soften your edges :v

How does it look boys

>>4096159
Sorry i should be rotated

Ok hopefully it should work

I saw everything.

>>4096169
ok now re-size it

>>4096193
alright

>>4096159
>>4096163
>>4096169
>>4096262
are you unable to preview a picture before you post it

>>4096283
well i took these with my phone then i just realized i could of sent these to my PC so im fucking retarded

swear to god girls und panzer has the worst official art to study from

>>4096611
their figures are soo cute tho, I really gotta study them sometime

>>4093666
it's really good except for that blank space above jotaro

>>4096611
Did you do this?

>>4096701
No no, this was some upscaled picture. I did this in an earlier thread, though. It's fanart I studied but hell it's way better.
>>4096667
Yeah their figures (and legs) are really good. I love the outfits too.

>>4095886
I love this!

>>4096712
fuck i just noticed the right leg (my right) isnt correct, didnt see that

>>4096712
Chicken scratch to the max.
You have something to copy dude be more confident with your linework.

>>4095886
CSP? procreate?

>>4095670
By "by hand" do you mean painterly or loose?
Every digital artist utilizes tools...I'm not sure what you're getting at exactly. The thing that stands out to me in the image you quoted is the clean linework, which was probably made by just using a lot of layers. They very well could have had 50+++ layers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpcnJ1mWH8E
Someone like this paints a bit looser and uses a lot less layers, but still utilizes lasso/color effects.
It's just a stylistic choice, as well as just a method of choice type deal. You have to enjoy the process, some people like keeping layers entirely separate, others just don't. There's no real benefit to either other than maybe the crisp layer artists having an easier time making large last minute changes.
These are types of choices that don't come until AFTER you've gotten a slight grip on what YOUR individual style is which does not happen until you've grown out of /beg/ to a degree.

>>4096748
Here anon, I went back and lined it to the best of my ability. Did it just for you. Sorry if it isn't 1:1.

>>4095670
fundamentally the end result is all that really counts, especially if this is your job. there's no reward for painting honarably.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDpn9fdsRbY
however, relying on too many shortcuts can make your work feel very 'digital', for lack of a better term and it can lose the human element that makes a drawing appealing in the first place.
the real trick imo is to be able to cheat intelligently & then paint organic details and imperfections back into the image.
hamada
>https://www.youtube.com/user/yoshikadu2011/videos
and asano both do this really well, especially in dededede
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swBhVx9X4n8
you can also create your own hand drawn assets & textures and then kitbash them together.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQyWwuFxjsA
thom scholes does this with his paintings and it creates a really unique look. you can apply the same idea to anime and comic style work.

with all that said, there's a lot of value in learning to do things the hard way when you're just starting out. you should learn to cheat, not cheat to learn.

>>4096093
>>4096739
Thank you!

>>4096803
CSP. You can do the same thing in Procreate too, though, but it’s a lot easier to achieve in CSP.

Studying proportions, they might not be useless.

>>4091483
Holy shit she is freaking cute. Hats off to you.

>>4097232
I was asking cause for some reason I cant seem to find good brushes both for painting and drawing in CSP.

>>4097454
CSP assets has a buuunch of really good brushes for free though, maybe you just need to change your mindset - there's no reason you have to use the same brush for both painting and drawing/sketching.

I used these:
https://assets.clip-studio.com/en-us/detail?id=1607922
and side pencil from here: https://gumroad.com/rondanchan (check out his other brushes too, they're all pretty nice)
and very occasionally, the airbrush tool.

Use different brushes, if you just find it a pain to switch brushes constantly or something, invest some time in setting up your workspace in CSP. The great thing about CSP is how much you can customize your workspace to go with your workflow. Check out CSP assets again, they really have a ton of great brushes that you probably missed by focusing on trying to find something good for both painting/drawing.
The closest thing to a brush that's both good for painting and drawing is probably just your simple hard circle brush like the one in PS, but I don't know what kind of style you're going for.

Good luck, anon.

>>4097490
Oh I know there's a ton, but I just cant seem to find good ones, if you know what I mean. I'll check those you mentioned and if you have any other recommendation they are welcomed

>>4097232
Any blog?

>>4097490
>but I don't know what kind of style you're going for.

If I'm being honest, I dont know either. I can "copy/study" mindlessly but other than that, I cant get any ideas for original stuff. And after copying for a while it just gets boring and I quit studying altogether

It sucks so much that all the good anime drawing books and tutorials are in Japanese. Especially those detailed process books from good artists. Trying to figure stuff on your own is so slow.

>>4093802
>your eyes really got a lot tighter since the redline, nice job anon
what redline i wanna see

>>4097896

How do you know where to place the specular highlight in the eye? I always have to guess and check zoomed out.

>>4098062
You place it based on where the light source in the scene is coming from.

I was about to buy some manga so I could copy out of the book, but then I noticed that the art style between the manga and the anime differs.
Why do they do this?

>>4098575
some styles are harder to animate, that's really it

>>4098575
Animator sakuga looks better, that's why.

>>4093666
Sorry, I forgot your blog. Mind reminding me? You're getting better so quick, I'm envious.

>>4090616

Learning a bit from atmosphere sketchbook.

>>4098575
Based anime normie.

just finished this chocolate elf

>>4098875
please draw her cunny and don't cut her arm like that.

>>4098875
I think the face is too simple for the style of the body, mainly shading

Legs

>>4097312
>>4097420
>>4098773
>>4098996
finish something

>>4097222
I'm done with this. was fun. Colors weren't in the original reference.

>>4099089
The things I want to finish, are too big a scope for me now. Idle lolis don't get me going.

>>4099096
Reduce your scope. finish that pic you just posted. or atleast push it further

>>4099099
Taking too long. Don't want to waste my brittle hands on doodling.

>>4099136
time yourself

Fix dumb eye.

>>4099144
I see what you're saying, but I creating finished images to improve is a meme.

>>4099150
but creating*

>>4099150
>I see what you're saying, but I creating finished images to improve is a meme.
No it isn't. How do you know what to improve if you just make sketches all day? You won't gain any experience finishing if you never do it. I understand if you're too scared to do it, I'm the same way. But you gotta push out of sketch comfort zone.

>>4099156
1. I love the look of sketches 2. I can improve by using my galaxy brain to tell a knee doesn't look right.

3. You're just wrong, sketching is key to everything. My drawings are all done from imagination, you must be used to talking to people that use reference highly.

>>4099172
Yet your sketches look the same they did weeks ago. Use more reference. Doodling from imagination only gets you so far.

>>4099172
>1. I love the look of sketches
me too, but you can only sketch so much. nobody can get interested in some doodle of a flat loli body
>2. I can improve by using my galaxy brain to tell a knee doesn't look right.
ok this is a shitpost
>3. You're just wrong, sketching is key to everything. My drawings are all done from imagination, you must be used to talking to people that use reference highly.
what >>4099174 said. also get off your high horse, using reference is encouraged. its like not using a dictionary/thesaurus when writing

>>4099174
>>4099177
From my perspective, you guys are crabs here to trick me into stagnating.

But if could I could turn the art gains, I got yesterday into muscle, you guys would be crushed into paste right now.

>>4099233
just finish something instead of being stagnate

>>4099150
>that arrogance
shit ankle anon, is that you?

>>4099177
Don't bother, that's the arrogant loli guy from two threads ago. He replied to advice on his art with "don't talk to me like I'm a child bro" and defended that if he "got this far into art, then he knows when an ankle looks bad", so obviously we're the /begs/ because he looked at an ankle for 2 minutes once.
Let him jerk off to his own ego alone, give critiques to people that won't brush it off.

>>4099233
go back to school

>>4099247
I'll listen to advice that has solid backing, but finishing drawings is a meme, but trying to become the type of artist you want to be at all times is not.

Also can't be pedo, if asexual.

>>4099233
You're delusional.

>>4099247
To be fair, can't tell if you're a /beg/ either with your posting style. Might want to post some work attached.

>>4099281
People don't need to write a fucking essay with diplomatic sources cherrypicked to your preference for it to deserve being looked by your highness, retard.

Also your sexual preferences don't matter towards the fact it's still art of a naked loli.

>>4099289
children don't look like that anon; liking loli doesn't automatically make you a pedo, only sometimes.

>>4098646
qt

>>4099288
You get an old one, just because I'm sure you're also this anon >>4099281
>>4099295 and you still think you can tilt me by shitting on my work. But the fact I know you're an absolute dunning kruger takes away any impact from your bait.

People don't need to justify themselves to you, you came here and posted your art so don't argument your way out of improving. There's no point in you defending your opinion on critiques if your mindset has only gotten you shit half-done sketches.

>>4098773
You're never going to improve if you keep avoiding hands lower limbs, full figures and clean lineart. You're in a comfort zone right now and absolutely refuse to leave it.

>>4099233
>trick me into stagnating
I saved these 3 months ago, you're tricking yourself

>>4099336
He explicitly only draws naked little girls, and he claims he's asexual?
He might be confusing "asexual" with "involuntary celibate".

>>4099336
We need to start bullying him into submission.

>>4099316
>People don't need to write a fucking essay~~~
Then people shouldn't mind when I disregard what they say. People don't know when they're wrong.

>>4099316
Practice making lively sketches, before you make colored poo.

>>4099336
These have as much soul, but I'm clearly better pal.

>>4099344
I was just now thinking that, a group effort to show him his mindset is not okay.
There's a high risk he'll grow a victim complex and evacuate to the circlejerk discord server though

>>4099340
>>4099344
>>4099347
What the fuck /ic/? I'm not sure these are men either.

>>4099316
soulless

>>4099346
soulful

>>4099349
samefag

>>4099347
aquanigger why are you still obsessed with that discord

>>4099346
>making lively sketches
But your drawings have no gesture or contrapposto, they're rectangles with legs.

>>4099356
Probably got kicked out and starts projecting at any given opportunity.

>>4099346
>>4099366
>Inno and the bois arrived

>>4099363
Drawing from your head is hard bro, and lolis have rectangle bodies. If I can't make a standing loli, I can't make a dynamic loli.

>>4099397
Then draw from refrence, then draw it from imagination. You won't progress doing the same set of steps over and over.

>>4099397
What we're trying to tell you is that you're stuck at the conceptual stage, there's hardly any form relevant to what you're trying to suggest other than minor details like the nipples and a belly button but other than that the entire figure is simply unfinished. When was the last time you finished a complete figure? It doesn't even have to be colored.
>>4099406
He needs to reference from the 3dpig and then use his rectangular approach based on what the model is doing.

>>4099406
>>4099413
I do use reference, but only to understand body parts, or else I'd be unable to improve.

But sure I could make a super epic picture if I used reference highly, but then it's not fun anymore. Where's the thrill of putting something from your mind to paper? I want to be able to shoot lolis from my hand.

>When was the last time you finished a complete figure?
And what then, nothing sticks in my head from repetition and I'm stuck spending a day on a painting for the rest of my life, that's boring as fuck.

Appreciate the gamer help though.

>>4099447
I like your work! If you don't mind the question, how long have you been drawing?

>>4099447
You can't just claim you could do something good if you wanted, that's druggie logic.
>I could just not take the drug if I wanted
>I could just stop being a shitty beginner if I wanted
You claim you could do a super epic picture.
I argument you're not able to, and if you tried it'd be complete shit. And you can't prove me otherwise because you have no recent finished art.

>>4099455
7 Months ago, but I have bad hands though.

>>4099456
Well bro, I think you can't appreciate the glory of my art, unlike the above poster.

>>4099468
That posted sucked your dick and that immediately boosted your ego up to irredeemable levels.
Either you're just shitposting and just wasted half an hour of our time, or you're serious and just wasted 7 months of your time.

>>4099468
That's really good for only 7 months. You're doing just fine, anon. Ignore this >>4099475 retard, he's just a crab that wants to drag you down.

>>4099487
Are you really gonna feed his arrogance like that? That anon's been dismissing advice like a prick for weeks now.

>>4099475
>That posted sucked your dick and that immediately boosted your ego up to irredeemable levels.
>>4099447
So you haven't even finished once complete piece yet. Sooner or later you are going to get burned out and be stuck on a rut and all we're going to do is say we told you so. It's only a matter of time before you start to procrastinate and spend more time finding excuses to not complete a drawing.
>>4099487
His work is shit and the only thing keeping him afloat is the fact that he's new and you faggots keep coddling him for that.

>>4098773
>>4098996
>>4099096
>>4099150
>>4099172
>>4099233
>>4099346
>>4099468
>this faggot again

stop replying to the faggot and actually reply to the pictures that got no replies

>>4098996
>each time someone refuses to draw a hand or foot out of cowardice, you can swoop in to essentially steal their gains by drawing it
>tfw sucked up some hands and feet gains from my favorite comfort zone poster

feed me more. i promise i will use your gains for a noble cause

>>4099587
kek

>>4099587
Okay, now this is epic. Here's one more.

>>4099594
Forgot pic.

>>4099597

>>4099597
This is all your fault, /ic/. Reap what you sow, retards.

>>4090614

>>4098584
I'm happy that you noticed some improvement, thank you, what really helped me was putting
paper over my small wacom.
i dont have a blog, i'm planning to do that when i get better at figure drawing, right now my original stuff is boring.
>>4099587
damn,nice hands, good job

HOW DO I COME UP WITH INTERESTING COMPOSITIONS AAAA

>>4099801
WHEN IN DOUBT TAKE THE RULE OF THIRDS AS A LIGHT SOURCE OF REFERENCE YOU FUCKING
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFAGGOT!!

What software are you using to draw?

>>4099901
Blender texture paint.
How else am I gonna draw my cube-chan?

an interesting pose to study

>>4098996
me likey those hips umu

>>4099914
kek

I need muscular women references to study.

>>4099901
csp
It's also on sale. Or you can pirate it

>>4100868
Please respond.

>>4101082
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