/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>4096061
Yes.

>>4096063
ok not gonna use it then, thanks

>>4096061
It is a tool to help you
Depending on it will fail you

>>4096061
if you know how to use references sure, but if you're just tracing or pretending to know what you're doing, then no

>>4096061
me getting carried

'making it' means doing porn comissions
do whatever you can to get ahead

>>4096061
I’m sure you’d be fine you used it as a reference for really complicated poses, but for anything simpler you should really learn to do it on your own. Also never trace.

>>4096061
use magic poser instead

>>4096087
>magic poser

why the fuck would someone want a phone poser app?

>>4096061
Only if you trace over it. Also,
>Using time to pose a model’s joints and position.
>When you can instead get reference from Pixiv.
>When you can get reference from one of the actual 1,000 things your favorite artist has done across 5+ years.

>>4096061

A pose app doesn't make ideas for you.

>>4096061
You'll become like this guy
https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?id=76120&type=illust&p=20

>>4096061
If you use design doll/magic poser you need to have a good grasp of rendering and stylization or it looks like crap. This is a bad example of using posers

>>4096141
And a good example. All from the magic poser twitter

>>4096145
>76120
>that's considered a good example

>>4096061
Almost guarantees your art will have no soul.

>>4096145
imagine spending hours on rendering when you barely can draw hands

>>4096105
You can use it in browser

>>4096078
>'making it' means doing porn comissions
It's sad that some people actually think this

>>4096590
I’m doing porn commissions and don’t consider it making it. Making it is making your own thing and getting paid for it

>>4096061
There is nothing wrong with tracing 3d models.

But please keep in mind that you have to study fundies alongside. Don't do it mindlessly if you are trying to get better. If you are experienced and on a time crunch, that is ok too. It wont do you any good otherwise, like >>4096141 said.

>>4096677
another example of using 3d reference

>>4096678
why the fuck do you need a model for such a basic pose. holy shit just learn to draw. do more life drawing.

>>4096678
what software is that

>>4096697
Daz studio

>>4096688
They were experiments. Shut up please

>>4096705
>They were experiments.
learn to draw

>>4096708
pyw

>>4096710

L2D

>>4096714
I am.

now, waiting on you

>>4096719

I have no need to prove myself to a hack. Just know I'm better than you in skill.

>>4096724
I doubt it. A good artist would know that experimentation and trying different things is key to improvement, something you don't seem to have a grasp on after looking at your replies. Have fun staying trash. Have a nice day

>>4096733

A good artist learns to draw. Have a nice day, /beg/.

>>4096724
A better artist wouldn't be afraid to post his own work.

How is this different from paying a model to pose for you?

>>4096791
paying a model why not just draw from pictures... if you are descent at making marks then you could just go to a drop in life drawing

>>4096064
>>4096063
>Decides against using something with the only reason being because some random FPBP poster said "Yes."
NGMI

>>4096847
I'd rather learn to draw like what that other anon was saying.

>>4096850
Don't understand how 3d models prevents you from learning to draw?

>Pose model
>Analyze the forms, see how the proportions work, study the forms, etc
>When done, try drawing something from imagination. analyze and see whats wrong
>repeat

>>4096881

Why not just use a photo? How do you solve the issue of lighting your figure? What about drapery? People who tend to fall back on 3D dolls tend to lack these skills.

>>4096850
>>4096881 is correct, but you should learn figure drawing from real drawings and how to construct figures on your own before using 3D models. 3D models are a handy shortcut, but to use them effectively you have to already understand how the figure works. 3D models leave out a lot of details that real human beings have, the anatomy is heavily simplified and they lack the same sense of gesture real humans are capable of. I'd recommend spending a good amount of time studying real human figure drawing, Loomis and bodily construction, and gesture. Then, when you make illustrations, if you have a pose you are unable to draw from imagination and can't find a decent photo ref, use a 3D doll.

>>4096884
3d software allows those things. Especially lighting. In fact, there are fabric simulations to change how dense the fabric can be and that can be helpful when studying.

>>4096885
I semi agree with this. depends on the model. Daz studio has normal maps that help define muscles and such. It's even built to flex when certain bones are moved

REAL artists get their husbands/wives to pose for them.

>>4096084
This

>>4096898
>3d software allows those things.

No honey, it doesn't.

>>4096898
Nigga you’d have to literally create every fold of a fabric on that model to render the lighting. You might as well just draw from your mind

>>4096903
i dont agree with you

>>4096909
I don't care.

>>4096584
Imagine grinding hands when all audiences want is good graphics

>>4096677
>>4096678
Do these models come with the program or do I have to download them separately?

What are they called?

>>4096927
You have to download them separately. its not hard to find some free download to products though. they come with different morphs and stuff.