/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>4086874
>security analyst

so you're a hacker(cracker) whos using exploit tactics? nice one

>20
>Student but I'm a Math/Science Tutor (it's hardly a job)
>~$4k
I still dream of getting an art job someday but oh well

>>4086889
No, that would be pentesting. I just respond to possible threats on certain companies and ship firewalls. Its basically just tech support but security focused.

>>4086914
so why encourage people to share about themselves on clear net?

>>4086874
this combines all the things I hate about art-
Your muddy art on textbook paper, age determines if you are gmi, flexing income??

the ultimate crab post imo

>24
>hvac tech (construction)
>$55k

>>4086874

>25
>wagecuck at wendys
>depressingly low

so yea, not making it

still paying off for an art fundamentals course that didn't teach me jack shit, and I didn't even get into the illustration course I was bridging to. There are so many days where I just want to go somewhere far away from everything and everyone. Hoping that someday I can do card art without falling into the trap of becoming to generic, or necking myself before then.

>>4086960
woah man, calm down.

>25
still so very young. at your current level, you have tons of potential, keep it up. erm lose the pessimistic point of view, it's entirely self induced. hate your job? go find a course and get trained to operate something, better wage, and you learn new skill.

>>4086960
I hope things pan out for you, man. For what it's worth, I think that dragon painting is really good

>25 yo NEET
>five thousand dollars in the hole cause i gambled on options

im just trying to make some dosh with freelance but no one will hire me

>20
>WCT Trainner at BWW
>30k

Changed goals too much
Was aiming to become a concept artist but now
I'm totally unsure

>26
>school teacher in Japan
>30k

>>4086874
> 36
> Software Engineer
> € -- family and I living comfortably in house we own

I started drawing 3 months ago. Have no aspirations of making any real money from art because I don't need it.

I want to self publish comic books / graphic novels in the noir style (ala Sin City and the Criminal series). I care more about people seeing my work than really selling it.

>>4086874
>security analyst

Datamining faggot. Fuck off.

>>4086916
Because he glows in the dark

>>4086874
>22
No Job. I'm grinding my ass every fucking day to be good enough to pass the exams next year into the best animation school of my country.
Pic related is just a doodle, I rarely finish drawings outside of studies and I'm working on that

>>4086978
Thanks senpai. I was kinda bummed because I spent a lot of time working on the clouds, and then when I posted him on social, nobody seemed to give a fuck. It's just how it seems to go sometimes, sketches and small stuff get all the attention

It's nice to know that people still like him

>>4086975
Thanks as well. I've thought of finding a way to switch a couple times. The pessimism is because I had a pretty shitty day, but all of it still rings true to some point. I'm wary of learning a new trade because part of me thinks it will be like the -3- other times I've had a bad experience with colleges or uni. Or I would hate it because it feels like wasted time not drawing

thank you again. All things considered, I though 25 was pretty old, at least for someone pursuing art as a full career. Its nice to hear its still considered young

>>4087361
you have to push that negativity out of the way. learning something new is scary, which tells me you have some sense. but you should not let that be the dictator. you may find learning new skills, may actually improve your art because you're improving yourself. i highly suggest you get a new career. im assuming you're of average iq or more. stop working shit jobs if you can help it, you'll grow as a human, and your art work reflects you.

>23
>I just travel by foot with a tent and sleeping bag and paint, you would be surprised how welcome artists are to small unknown towns and villages in Europe
>A warm meal at the end of the day and a bed to sleep is a good pay day

>>4087584
perspective isnt working. make vanish point before render.

>>4087584
Got any other artworks? I'm curious as to how your lifestyle affects your work.

>>4087584
if not a larp
hella comfy & jealous
how's winter tho?

>>4087591
Perspective is a current weak point, I’ll work on it

>>4087595
>>4087594
can u be more obvious?

>>4087594
Here’s my insta, it’s an inconsistent mess but I feel like now is a good time to explore styles and ideas, next year I begin refining what I like most
https://www.instagram.com/enginart_/?hl=en
>>4087595
It’s good, I’m in Switzerland atm crossing the alps on foot in the next few days towards Italy so I’m hoping the weather stays consistent for the journey
>>4087597
Bruh I’m in Switzerland in the middle of nowhere on a phone
>let me just get my proxy up so I can samefag so I can look kewl to my anonymous friends

>>4087583
Way before, I had wanted to go into zoology( specifically Ichthyology or herpetology). I think my interest in creatures still remains in my work to this day, like you said. The thing was, I was immediately shut down by family, friends and teachers because zoology isn't exactly a safe choice job-wise. Jokes on them, I took a course that was going to land me a job and flunked out on it, ending up in the same place I was pushed away from. Art became my primary focus because of this.

I intend on going back into it, once I establish myself as an artist more and pay off my current debt. The interest is still there, but I figure this isn't what you mean by telling me to upgrade my career, especially since doing so will land me in hundreds of thousands more in the red.I'm constantly listening to audiobooks and watching/ reading a variety of topics to supplement my learning, but then I have to leave that for hours on end to go to a place where people just physically and mentally rot

What courses do you suggest? are you talking trade work, or something different. When I was job hunting I kept looking for security guard or "night watch" since it would give me a ton of un-interupted time to study, but nothing ever came up.

Thank you again for this sorta therapy. Turns out I needed this for everyone else, sorry for the blog-post

>>4087608
For what it's worth I really like your art, and it's honestly giving me more inspiration to improve.

>>4087597
ur a retard bud

>>4087621
honestly thought you were samefagging.

>>4087608
If you've just been posting your art anon these are great. Perhaps you should put yourself out there more. This last one is really creepy, a great design.

I am a bit apprehensive to put any of my portfolio work on here, so here is an oil painting. (I am not an oil painter though, I am a comic/storyboard artist and sometimes do digital painting for t-shirts and novels).

>27
>Freelance Illustrator
>10k :/

>>4087595
I should mention man I only took £800 with me so it’s entirely doable at any point for you, just set up an easel and start painting in a public place if funds get low there’s always someone who will walk buy and ask to buy it, I’d recommend anyone to go by foot and painting to some far off location it’s amazing the amount of experience you get

>>4087618
Thanks a ton anon. It really means a lot to hear that. If I can inspire you to do anything extra, have it be this; go out of your way to learn something small that is daunting, and do it a little each day. Anatomy is massive and frightening for a lot of people, and I'm no master. But when you take the time to intentionally learn it, bit by bit, it becomes so much more impressive and gives your work such an edge. Once you understand the pieces, bridgeman studies become a ton of fun to do. The last couple of months I've been watching Scott Eaton and it has made a massive change for me. I don't really have the time to sit and watch the lecture from start to finish so I do my best to break it into digestible parts through the week

>>4087637
Thank you as well, anon. It's all been my work over the past months or so. I've always had an issue with putting myself out there more, since I'm naturally an introvert, and day-job forces me to be extroverted for a long time (if you're interested in MBIT shit, I'm INTJ and INTP). I leave and feel destroyed, and I can't muster the energy to create interesting social media posts and engage with people online. I always worry about creating the right tone in my posts, and not wanting to annoy people with retweeting my own work. It never really clicked how damaging this is, until I started to make my portfolio and have gotten 0 interaction on almost every platform, aside from some lucky breaks

Christ, for a place notorious for hyper-aggression, crabs and bitterness, you all are being really nice today. I honestly didn't expect to be crying like a bitch but here I am. Thanks again, all of you

>>4087653
I'd love to. Used to fantasize about it daily years ago. Unfortunately I don't live in Europe & instead live in a hell hole where the wildlife will kill you & am tied down to responsibilities with a kid on the way.
Still envious, keep on keeping on brother!

>>4087658
>go out of your way to learn something small that is daunting, and do it a little each day
I've been trying to get better with environments and scenery. Everything about it feels really overwhelming; even just knowing what elements to work on it feels like I'm tackling something huge. I feel comfortable working at this pace with anatomy, but when it comes to doing scenery and environments I'm totally lost. So thank you- I'm gonna try doing the small stuff over time instead of trying to do everything at once.

>Christ, for a place notorious for hyper-aggression, crabs and bitterness, you all are being really nice today
Yeah people here can be pretty cool.

>>4087658
Hey Anon,
Yes actually I know a lot about MBTI, if I were you I'd switch to a job like stocking shelves at night.

your work is honestly really good anon. I love these hand studies. The shapes on them are very cool and and the coloring is very complex.
here's your first practice in putting yourself out there
plz give blag?

>>4087682
I will recommend Noah Bradley's art-camp; 1 is strong for general knowledge, but 2 (and 3 when it is available for dl) since it is more focused on environmental work. It's good stuff and the man really knows his environments. I should add, if it's not time that binds you, but complexity, I'd say that it might be better to take in a bit more then you can chew in a sense. Make notes actively while watching and push yourself heavily. You'll often retain the information better then you expect, especially while you're watching him paint while explaining. The image will stick in your mind and come up when thinking of the topic. Good luck and have fun!

>>4087684
Thank you anon. That sounds like a pretty solid choice. I can listen to audiobooks and maybe sketch if I finish my work early. There are a few 24 hours groceries locally, I'll ask if they have any openings.

And thank you for the compliment. I remember adjusting the colors in the reference to try to push myself. My socials are:
https://twitter.com/Quiet_Deity
https://www.artstation.com/jcfletcher

>>4087662
>I don't live in Europe & instead live in a hell hole where the wildlife will kill you
If I said do you speak-a my language, would you just smile and give me a Vegemite sandwich?

>>4087771
Bloody oath I would.
Vegemite is superior to Marmite in every way.

>>4086874
>Design / Concept
>32
>Quit My job and planning my own Design store

>>4087726
>24 hour grocery

It’s even better if they close at a certain time. The stickers still come in at night while the store is closed, so less people. (Source: I’ve worked at a grocery store)

Thanks anon, I don’t use twitter but I’m glad I can add you on ArtStation.

>>4087726
>Good luck and have fun!
Thank you, I will! Once again, thanks for the direction; your art is a big inspiration and I'm a fan of your rendering so I hope to pick up something similar along the way.

>>4087790
>"Surgically removed before embryo implantation. Subject: Marachek, John J., died during the procedure."
>They killed him taking it off.

>>4086874
>19 in a month
>college student studying design
>$2k from part time job at call center


Really want to be a professional artist, looks like I’m a bit screwed

>19 almost 20
>College going for biology
>not a fucking cent

26/grad school in physics/20k of shitty scholarship a year

will never make it / will never graduate

> 32
> 70k a year
> Upper IT job
> Own house and car + married

I know I'll never make it but that's fine actually. I can draw whatever bullshit I want to and feel fine at the end of the day. I do some comissions sometimes (I'm pretty cheap, or else I wouldn't have any customers ).

>18
>studying IT
>Broke to the bone

Age: 24
Job: Process Engineer
Salary: 65k

I dont draw as often anymore, and enjoy doing jiu jitsu and lifting weights rn.

>20 - 4 (don't >> me)
>Student I suppose
>1,1k, 20% from commissions (landscapes sell by some reason, but I almost never make commissions though), and the rest by wagecucking through summer and winter

>>4088464
>>4088455
based

>>4086874

>From a few years ago. It's been long since I don't make anything personal that takes as much time as this one took
>27
>Freelancer
>Right now I make some here and some there, just enough to pay the bills. I had wage jobs and serious relationships but crazy me thinks he can git gud and is focusing on studying RN

>24
>industrial painting
>30k
I’m not sure what I want to do with my life

>>4087658
I kind of suggest creating fanart if you just want to maximum expose your art right now. Possibly even doing the soulless trendhopping bullshit. Maybe draw some fanart for the latest pokemon games. Pokegirls, pokemon, whatever. Or you can draw fanart for the demon slayer anime which is the "hot anime" of summer 2019 right now.

Check these videos out and see if they give you any ideas

https://youtu.be/I2xblwbEvjA
https://youtu.be/bJw8gGYqXQE

I notice a lot of artists have gotten started by posting fanart often and then slowing transitioning to mostly original art when their accounts got popular enough.

Even if they don't draw fanart, the most popular artists usually stick to one or two major niches that their followers know they can expect when they upload new work (cute boys/girls, furry, fantasy, mechs, porn, specific fetish, cute animals, birds, etc)

>I leave and feel destroyed, and I can't muster the energy to create interesting social media posts and engage with people online. I always worry about creating the right tone in my posts, and not wanting to annoy people with retweeting my own work.

That's kind of me with social media too. Sometimes I wonder if I seem pathetic bumping and retweeting my art. Then sometimes I feel frustrated when I work for a long time on a pic and then it barely gets any likes/RTs. Over 10 likes is an accomplishment for me.

Unlike you though I don't work hard enough

>>4087726
>https://twitter.com/Quiet_Deity/media

Looking at your twitter I notice you have a good following to follower ratio, it's just that your engagements on your art is sadly low. Maybe one reason for this is because you don't post often enough? I can see it was almost 2 months since you posted another art piece.

It's not really your fault though because it can be exhausting to get the will to draw anything after a full day of work.

>Nice King Ghidorah fanart

>>4087658
where can I follow you? really like your work

>24
>Engineering Student / Ubereats driver when I need weed money
>$lol

This is my 3rd attempt at oil on canvas, I feel pretty good about my ability to pick up on instruction and technique from what I read, this may be one of the hobbies I'm more or less a natural at. My goal is to get good enough to commission realism landscape paintings so I don't have to cater fast food. Most likely will be working some engineering desk job instead within the next couple years.

Work in progess

>>4088464
Awesome, any more?

>>4086999
Pretty cool

>>4086960
I'd like to commission a piece from you.

Your style is what I'm looking for to use as a reference for my oil paintings.

>>4087608
You do some good shit, man. And not just "good for a 25 year old", but really good in general. Keep it up.

>21 in a few days
>Freelancer
> Less than $1,000

I'm still no more than an amateur, but I can't think of anything I enjoy doing more than this

>>4086874
25
security guard
not much

>>4088570
>>4088587
I've always stood by the ideology that I will only create fanart of a show/movie/series that I really enjoy. I know how trendhopping can be valuable in gaining followers and views for one piece, but I've also seen my numbers dip back down after posting again. That really stings when it happens. That being said, some of the new pokemon are neat so I could have a little fun painting them. Thank you for the tips and links, I will add them to the art playlist.

Another issue Is that I don't post that many studies that I do. Either because they aren't the strongest, I think they are boring for other people to look at or they are of other artists and I don't want to plagiarize. In this sense there's a big chunk of work that never sees the light of day, and when I'm doing a lot of studies, I just fall off the face of the earth

thank you again for your input. I believe in you anon, and thank you for liking my little Ghidorah

>>4088648
I've posted my social stuff right in here>>4087726
thank you for asking anon. I hope you like it

>>4088699
I'm really honored, anon. I'm open for commissions now, though my turnaround time will be iffy. I'm not doing more than personal work so I'll dedicate my focus on it till its done though. DM me on either socials, or grab my email from art station because that works too. I'm really kind of honored and would love to see what a piece of mine done in oil would look like

>>4088745
Thank you as well anon. You're very kind. You all are. This is honestly the most positive feedback I think I've ever received from anywhere. It means even more knowing that it came from here, where any of you could be deciding to tear me down and nobody would blame you, but you all are saying such nice things

thank you all again for the positivity. I never expected it when I first posted. You guys have made my week

>>4089169
Sorry it's been so long, Ihope you're still on, hmu with some DM info and lets talk

>>4087726
>I can listen to audiobooks and maybe sketch if I finish my work early. There are a few 24 hours groceries locally, I'll ask if they have any openings.
As someone who currently works in a grocery store, can I just point out what a BAAAAD idea this is. Groceries tend to run on minimal staff, which means 8 hours of running your ass off and very rarely "finishing your work early." If you work during the day, there's no such thing because there is constantly product moving off the shelf and therefore always something to stock. If you work at night, you will probably be unloading and working entire trailers of product to the sales floor, which could mean literally hundreds to thousands of boxes depending on the size of the store. (I run a SMALL - like D-tier - produce department, it's generally 250-300 boxes every order.) Plus most groceries have cameras everywhere and you'll be in shit if you get caught with headphones in and doodling. And you're always running a risk of straining or hurting your hands/wrists because of all the lifting, cutting boxes open, etc. That might sound ridiculous; but despite all the lectures you'd probably get about "workplace ergonomics," the reality is groceries are shitshows for "ergonomics," and you'll probably be put in the position of lifting boxes in all kinds of strained and weird bodily positions that can mess up your hands, wrists, shoulders, neck and back.

I DO like that I rarely have to talk with people, even working during the day (also an INTJ here), but it's not a good job to balance with art, unfortunately.

>>4090448
Meant to add: if you're highly intelligent, this is going to be even worse, because grocery stores are really stuck hiring bottom-tier people who are either dumb as rocks or batshit crazy and often virtually unemployable anywhere else (ESPECIALLY for stocking jobs on night crews). If they pick up on the fact that you're no dummy, they're going to depend on you to wipe everyone else's ass.

>>4088902
That armors pretty lit

>>4086874
>24
>I work with education, inside schools usually, it's a long story
>roughly 6k USD, but I don't live in the US, my currency is worth a lot less

I don't know what I want to do anymore, just fuck off from society making enough money with freelance illustration over the internet; the stuff I enjoy is hardly commercial however

>>4088556
>I’m not sure what I want to do with my life
Have sexual relations with other men?

I too, am that lonely.

>Too old for 4chan
>Computer programmer
>~130K USD

A man can sell his soul to make a decent living, but damn if it doesn't cut into one's drawing time.

>>4090448
>>4090456
I worked as a grocery store cashier for several years while paying for college. Back then, it was an interesting environment: there were some high school and college kids (me included), even the best of whom would stick around for only a few years before they went off to or finished college. There were also a handful of full-timers (store director, department managers and assistants, pharmacists, etc.) who had real careers with benefits and a potential future with some hope of retirement. Everybody else was no better than part time, irrespective of how many hours you worked or how much you were paid. You had no benefits and had to make the best of the situation.

Years after I left town, the new Walmart down the street put my store out of business.

>>4090856

Don't suppose you'd ever wanna part with some of that dosh to commission someone, wouldja

Ol' buddy ol' pal

>>4088258
this is fucking great. keep at it.

>>4087607
Really jealous of your lifetstyle and the artwork you make from it, hope to be in a similar lifestyle in the future.

>>4090748
Really nice work. I understand wanting to draw for a living but not feeling like any of the art jobs fit your interests. I’d still like to make comics but I’m only interested in the weird ones

>23
>can still barley paint well
>can't draw all that well
>want to be good at too many creative in devours
>suck at them all

Literally hate my work and drawing

>>4091173
Thats pretty comfy desu. Obviously a lot of room to improve but its got soul to it. Keep going anon I'm sure you're going to make it.

>>4091173
this is honestly just a few fixes away from being presentable desu.
the mood & lighting are really comfy. i really like it
have you ever read graphic la anon? there's a copy in one of the megas

>>4091233
>>4091300
It's a study though, so does it even count?

>>4088570
>mfw I really enjoy touhou so i just only draw touhou fanart

>>4091922
yes, it still has a nice soul to it. you interpreted the picture in your own vision. post the original if you can.

>>4091922
it counts if you learned anything.
are environments mostly your focus anon?

Like it says in the book, we are blessed and cursed.

>>4086874
>16
>no job
>couldnt resize this image, my apologies

>23
>waiter
>roughly 30k

Getting back into drawing. Regret squandering my youth by not practicing art. Trying to make up for the lost time.

Pic related is a thumbnail for an idea I've been harboring for the last few months.

>>4086874
>30
>IT grunt and full time student
>At the very best $30k+

After a divorce and two different careers turning south I think I'm doing at least okay for myself. Kinda sucks that 10 years of my life was wasted but hey I could have gotten off way worse