/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

Is this going well dudes

>>4084312
based humblebragger

Well i feel I've made progress.

doodling again

>>4084312
It reminds of that Loomis image about patchy rendering of the face. Yours doesn't look as bad as his examples but still I think you could improve on that.

>>4084312
Her right eye looks like it's 30 years older than her left.

Posted on the other thread but never got a (you). How can I improve these studies/sketches? I moved away from humans to learn more about de/construction of forms (instead of contour drawing). Are my forms in perspective making sense?

>>4084318
what are you on about, this is legitimate /beg/ work. anon's just closer to crossing into intermediate territory then most shitters in these threads
>>4084312
take a closer look at your reference, especially the eyes and nose. it seems like you're symbol drawing right now. also, have more confidence in your lines, everywhere that you haven't rendered shows uncertainty

>>4084361
Yea dude this looks pretty good

>>4084312
maybe finish it first? or post before any rendering? one eye is higher than the other though.

>>4084361
>wants to improve understanding of the forms
>3 out of 5 images are orthogonal view
bruh
other two are rather wonky, so go grind more

>>4084394
Hah yeah I wanted to learn how to draw it orthoganally first before rotating.

Thanks for the feedback though.

I’m nowhere near finished with it, but I just wanna see what Anon thinks of my sunset sky. It’s my first time doing a sunset.
Is it shit?
How is it shit?
What can I do to improve my artwork?

>>4084440 here, no I haven’t started with coloring the rest of the artwork. Just the sunset

>>4084440
The green area of a sunset is way less saturated than that. Also, what medium is that?

reposting from last thread. just need some help with the shoulders and then i wanna start the picture

>>4084454
Oil pastel

>>4084459
i think is not bad but my point is more the right arm, i think that you have to see it in that image, i you don't as your image is right now, you can see that the body is shifted to the right (the right of the image not your right)

>>4084459
It's not the shoulders that are fucked imo. It's the neck and head. Try moving them around. I don't know enough to point to a solution sorry.

>>4084459
>>4084466 is right, the neck and head are positioned further behind that the torso. Try moving it slightly lower and to the left of the page.

>>4084459
It's not bad, just a bit of perspective work and this'll be right as rain, the neck could use a tweak, but I think the bigger problem resides in the length of the thighs, and the perspective on the ledge(?) she's sitting on.

My first time using a dip pen, I'm happy with results so far.

>>4084293
Isn't it ironic that OP pic is badly drawn

>>4084463
That's what I thought. Well, I don't have any experience with it myself, so I can't help you much. But anyway, regarding your drawing, your forest is too boring, try to vary the size and shape of the trees, and the overall shape of the forest, so that it's not just a horizontal line of uniform width. Same applies to the haystacks, they are too similar to each other, learn basic perspective to be able to rotate them as you wish.

>>4084524
It's not badly drawn. It's not great but decent enough. Pyw if it's better.

Should I sacrifice the golden ratio for a more readable silhouette,or should I sacrifice the silhouette for the golden ratio?

>>4084524
It's the exact opposite of irony considering this is the /beg/ thread.

>>4084318
Cringe low standardsbeggar

>>4084323
Racecar related drawing now

>>4084535
>>4084540
Work on your perspective first before going into the golden ratio meme.

>>4084543
What about the perspective is wrong?

>>4084564
I assume the ground is intentionally slopped judging by that fence in the background.

>>4084459
your anatomy is garbage, you could just used boxes to have a better sense on orientation, but it seems that just feel it and tried to eyeball it, upperbody isnt correctly aligned with the thing shes sitting on, the other arm seems like is clipping the thighs are too short the face is way too upfront or the neck is way too back and that ear placement is more like for a front view, the whole anatomy is shit desu, dare i say back to loomis?

>>4084293
Profile pics are really coming along

>>4084539
Image familiar, thoughts?

>>4084575
I wasn't sure how to do the fence area

>>4083980
This looks really beautiful and unique, but there's forms of errors that I see:

The eye being separated look a little off, as the nose seems very off places. The mouth looks very kitty-like instead of just bunny-like. He's a boy haha And the idea of iris colors and eye design seems a little different with what I'm going for. But I could learn to adapt if I were not going for anime-styles.

Shadings of the clothes, and the face seems to help for me though, though the question is how do I shade with, either Air Brush, "paint style", or any styles I want, as long as I use opacity?

Also, to the other anon, the colors is supposed to be wonderful or adorable, like Disney or Miyazaki.

It's the clown from the movie Terrifier
My old tablet broke so now I'm drawing on a little bitgy 4x3 inch tablet that's hard
Everyone I showed says it's complete garbage :(

>>4084578
this was what i wanted but feared, thanks.
seems like i got a lot of work ahead of myself. damn just wanted to do a fun piece. i've done loomis a couple times but i always disliked how slow it was and did huston/hampton/vilppu a little bit. but from what i've shown in this thread it looks like it hasn't really stuck.

damn i dont know whether to just dump this or continue on it, i've certainly lost the drive now

>>4084671
No matter what Anon says, keep going. It may turn out to be shit in the end, but if you don’t finish it, you’ll get a sense of emptiness in (You) and you’ll feel like you’ll never improve. Finish it, analyze your mistakes in the end, rinse and repeat. Trust me

>>4084293
been reading(if you can call it that) morpho simplified form and damn does reading hampton and then this help me so much. i feel like i got a little better

>>4084715
Ahh I'm just a bit lost now, feel like it's more worth it to restart or something.

>>4084716
You still give your bodies too much of a thigh gap. And I know the camera was at a angle but the knee caps are a bit too high of the lower legs are too long.

how do i improv my art bros? here is a recent piece I did. studies, artvids, books. anything to help me get good cause art is the only thing I have now

>>4084622
If you can’t draw from imagination, don’t. At your level, the best thing to do is to draw from a reference. H8 to be that guy, but that artwork is subpar, scrap it and try again. I wish I could tell you more, but I’ll just tell you like an NPC. Read the sticky my dud3

>>4084732
Seems like you're interested in faces/heads. Check out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T7cDY7YDsg

>>4084724
>You still give your bodies too much of a thigh gap
big gap between the legs?
yea i need to fix that unless you mean something else. i'm brainlet when it comes to learning from words alone
>>4084724
>knee caps are a bit too high of the lower legs are too long
fixing that right now. i see it myself now and will be working more on legs.


if we fix that is that drawing at least passable or ok?. i wanna know if i'm going to correct way and not wasting time

>>4084671
Not the anon that redlined you but wtf man, don't get discouraged so easily that's a solid piece. You just needed to re-position literally 2 lines; the necklines. The head and body were in a correct enough position. Now you just start applying features and maybe even draw the background and color.
You seriously can't let yourself be stopped this early into a drawing or else you'll never start practicing the other stuff. For example that figure is decent, but maybe once you start trying to draw a face or clothes you find out you suck and start asking for tips here, that'd be helpful for your progress.

Of course this is not to say sometimes it's better to just scrap a drawing and start over something else, I literally just did that a few minutes ago. But that's because I didn't have a clear picture of what I wanted to do.
You drew a girl sitting on a ledge already so I'm guessing you have a picture in your mind of what you want to create, try to finish that.

>>4084754
Thanks for this. The big post I got felt like it was a lost cause. From what I read it seemed like the body was completely fucked and needed to revamped. I completely overthought it.

>>4084777
I mean even if it were, you're not supposed to become an Old Master at figure drawing before you move on to the rest. You'd be drawing mannequins for a year or two if that was a requirement.

>>4084788
yeah, i understand now. shits just so easy to overwhelm you. i do have a clear idea in my head for the piece but was just worried it was a flop before it was even started. we'll see what happens. ganbatte!

Trying to make it look like she's doing a Slav squat,but it looks weird to me and idk how to fix it

>>4084788
follow up to this post >>4084796, but i think this is a large issue with /ic/. It feels like I'm suppose to grind, grind, grind for a couple years and then somehow i'll be awarded with the ability to have fun like its a fuckin game or something. that lounging figure was completely imagination and while it isn't the best i was actually quite pleased with how it came out aside from the neck/shoulders.

>>4084812
EXACTLY!! Don’t be discouraged by the faggots that are only here to get people down by saying “READ THE STICKY LOL”

>>4084812
It's a weird balance and no one can pinpoint down the exact formula, but I'd say you're supposed to "grind" yes, but put a bit more stuff in your plate so you're not only grinding cubes or mannequins. If you're a beginner trying to improve you might as well slowly get better at everything instead of just 1 thing.

>>4084819
yeah thats fine, and thats what i've been trying to do recently
>>4084814
It sucks too because I actually love that valid criticism -- brings me back down to earth. It just depends if the person seeks to be a crab or actually be helpful.

Is drawing for fun really recommended doing alongside fundamental training?

>>4084859
yes, the only way to get better is to draw what you like, find flaws in your piece, and study to fix your flaws. repeat. if you're not drawing for fun and only drawing boxes you'll only get good at boxes. nothing actually interesting.

and if youre not having fun, why are you drawing?

>>4084579
9 year old fat latino kid level

>>4084874
lmfao

newfag here
I just bought a cheap tablet because I want to get into digital art
used to draw shitty traditional art but I haven't in over a year because I hate drawing traditionally(nothing against you based lads who do it, I just hate it myself)
any exercises I can do to get acclimated to my tablet and git gud at drawing in general?
I want to learn perspective and get out of my previous habit of just drawing side profiles of shit like an absolute sped

>>4084879
>any exercises I can do to get acclimated to my tablet
Use it instead of a mouse for everyday activities. Draw lines, ellipses and such.

>>4084886
any specific exercises or is that about it
I'm a pretty directionless person

I calmed my nerves from last thread and tried again. How easy it is to make my lines too thick or too thin is frankly terrifying, especially for more complicated shapes.

>>4084733
that was from a reference :(

>>4084736
dont know what the fuck im doing at this point. my drawings has no appeal since I cant draw a cartoony style and I cant draw a realistic style. fuck my life. I need a drink

I've been feeling rather motivated to draw today. I've almost completed the background and the first iteration of the character sketches today,when it would normally take weeks even without the background

But on the topic of critique,the poses look weird to me and I don't know how to fix it.How do I fix it?

>>4084332
Very good giant rat, i bet he makes all of the rules.

>>4084908
Hey that's lookin pretty good dude!

Does anyone have any audio that helps with improving art? I go to work everyday by train and it takes 1.5hours each way, it's always very crowded so I have to stand. It feels like a waste of time and I want to improve art while standing there. Is there a way?

>>4084931
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5nvzsslajk
All of this guy's. A lot are videos, but he has a podcast list too.

>>4084912
Keep grinding my dud3. Draw more basic things, then get into anatomy if you need to.

i can't grasp how to constuct an accurate torso out of a ribcage and pelvis. i have had this problem since i first started out. gone through loomis and hampton and a few others too. if i spend a while i can take something shitty and kinda chip at it one contour at a time to make it look better, but this is terrrible when i'm just trying to sketch something out of shapes real quick. doesnt help that all the references you can find all have different bodies, and are usually unappealing anyway. if i can't figure out the form and tilt of an appealing ribcage, i can't figure out how the breasts interact with it nor how it joins with the rest of the torso to create an overall good looking figure.

>>4084293
Studying preston through the book.

Can someone check these construction drawings? Upper is from photo references and lower is from imagination.

>>4084931
One thing you can do is just look around you on the train. Look at something, like a doorway of the car, and think - "How would I paint that?" Same for anything you see outside the window.
A big part of being an artist is how you see the world, and always looking around you in terms of art. I see ideas, textures, colors, moods, etc. everyday, all day. That's why it's good to leave the studio regularly, to SEE stuff. It might be an interesting tree, or cloud, or the mood of a rainy day.

>>4084874
why does this make sense lmao

How do I make thi pose not look horrible? I'm trying to make her do a Slav squat but it looks awful

>>4084913
You are drawing humans. You should start drawing boxes and learning perspective + simple structures.

>use line of action for gesture drawing
>All of the images are of people in extremely unnatural poses like doing acrobat shit and hanging upside down
Does this really help?

>>4085002
use a fucking ref

>>4084370
>symbol drawing
>that
Fuck off, if that's symbol drawing then the phrase has no meaning. You don't have to think it's good, but it's not symbol drawing.

>>4085002
Use the perspective lines on the ground to inform your construction. The knees should be in line with one another, for example.

>>4085009
No

>>4084950
hows this look
I know its not good, but its not god awful right?

how are these eyes? im pretty sure i drew the irises way too small and inconsistent.

>>4084874

Nice Critique really useful not cringe at all.

>>4085075
Issue is you don't know actual techniques yet. You're still doing chicken scratch (a sign of inexperience and no confidence in your lines, you improve this the more you draw), and it feels flat. If you're doing a reference, spend more time and try to break it down as much you can to understand. Also, use your eyes not your brain to draw.

>>4085075
It's a nice picture in itself, but anyone who looks at it will know that you're limited in your skill. No mistakes, but definitely lack of knowledge shows.

>>4084974
The top row has volumetric and proportional issues.

The bottom row is much better, but some of the poses don't make any sense, like they wouldn't show up in real life or they're uncomfortable to hold. The gestures are not good. (mainly the second one from the left, the leg supporting the weight should be locked out, as with the dancer) The one to the farthest right is the best i think.

>>4084956
You just gotta bang your head against the wall till it make sense.

second try

>>4085194
Ref.

>>4085134
>>4085181
gonna read "the keys to drawing" now
sorry for wasting your time, anons

>>4085199
This is /beg/, you should be asking questions.

bluebrush guy again
didn't finish this yet because hair

>>4085196
Hard to tackle pose.

>>4084908

>>4085101
I assume these aren't referenced.
Good job on trying to curve around the sphere but there's still symbol drawing going on. Get some references and give them a go - also handy because eyes come in all sortsa shapes. I think the 3/4 top right is the nicest.
Keep it up anon!

>>4085221
Pay more attention to the shapes and stick to reference more. Don't draw a line and consider it close enough - the minor inconsistencies pile up and you throw it way off. Check the forehead angle and the length of it, the angle where it meets bridge of the nose, the size of the nose & lips, mouth & eyes. Even the jaw line and cheek. Take your time, anon, compare features to other features to gather information about size & slow it down. Also where is your construction? A good start for this picture specifically is getting that forehead angle correct and the length right, from there the rest flows (1/3rds all the way down). Get that angle - make it a long line right down the face. Find your thirds, then bridge to the nose, and to the chin, maintaining that angle of the face that slopes backwards. As you can see the forehead lines up with the tip of the nose, but does not in your drawing.
Keep it up friendo, maybe try save the rendering til your linework is properly done, and if you're insistent on getting it down use simple shapes (that don't even need to be filled it) just to guide.

thoughts on this? made it this morning.

I started this today but i'm having a really hard time trying to color it.

>>4085252
black and white

How effective is Bridgman for a beginner?

>>4085272
You mean his casts? Pretty effective. They were meant and are still used as educational material.

>>4085252
>>4085254
problem is ur trying to convert grayscale pic into color, so its gonna look muted and dull due to the conversion. id say try your best to play with the hues in your program

>>4085252
ay dios mio

Reposting from the last thread. Can anyone help me with the perspective on this one? Something about it seems really off to me but I can’t pinpoint what it is.

>>4085248
>>4085252
>>4084622
>>4084539

>>4085254
>>4085252

Hi, cutie. Ignore the other retards in this thread.Two words for you: gradient maps. Trust me.
Make new layers for things like hair, skin, clothing, etc. Create a solid shape for each of them, then apply a gradient map to each of them. The fun about gradient maps is you can add as many hues as you want, and they'll find a "target" in your b/w drawing. Then, just mess around with them until you find the piece seems unified, colorwise. Then make as many new layers as you want and paint on top of it.

>>4085285
>>Something about it seems really off

How about this, it's a boring ass pose that conveys nothing to the viewer

>>4085285

>>4085290
This is just for me to study perspective. Wasn’t planning on making it a finished piece.

>>4085294
Shit I didn’t see your reply before posting my reply to the other anon. Thanks for this!

>>4085275
>>4085289
Thanks! This was really helpful, I will try this.
I really appreciate the reply.

>>4085286
wow what a contributing post
great work anon you have made the thread so much better

>>4085294
Do they do this for every part of the body? This is crazy helpful.

>>4084874
Fine here's a quick edit.

>>4084974
>>4085187
Is this what you mean by locked out legs?

Also added the references for the upper ones for better comparison.

Just started watercolor. Very much not used to the medium. How the hell do I get smooth color when it’s darker? Using W&N half pans. Sorry if the pic is big, phone poster.

>>4085352
Here’s a smaller image

>>4085354
You want multiple washes to build up that colour, also helps create form and shape this way. Let it dry a little, wash, dry, wash, pull shapes as you go.
It can be tedious especially when you're new but boy is it fun!
Love that silhouette of the camel and his rider! Very very readable & pleasant to look at! Great job, I suggest doing some water colour from life, it's a really good way to learn. Find a building nearby you like!

>>4084361
Needs more loomis

Could someone here give me some criticism? I struggle to improve past my current level of skill and I would really appreciate any help I can get in that effort.

Here is a recent piece I made.

>>4085494
Try taking your perspectives and the way you draw clothing to the next level. Force yourself to draw dynamic scenes that would demand more from you than your posted pic with all the exaggeration and color necessary to indicate the motion. Dare to do things you're not comfortable tackling and see what happens when you finish it.

>>4085199
Read drawing from the right side of the brain first

>>4084293
heh glad my meme is goin' around

What's the alternative to Loomis?

>>4084934
>>4084981
Thank you!!

>>4085541
I think they meant a GOOD alternative to loomis

>>4085026
I tried to stay close to your redline.Is this any better? I feel like the character still comes across as out of place though

>dont draw for 3 days
>draw like a 5 year old again
Is this normal?

>>4085577
Are you drawing from memory or from real life?

>>4084293
ok i semi fixed legs. How is it now?

Drawing box snakes was draining as all hell holy shit

1/2

>>4085683
Wonder if it would help if I bought a cube to have for reference.

Just trying to pump out daily figure drawings.

>>4085691
Nicee. From now on just focus on anatomy. That's probably your biggest weakness rn. form and gesture seems good to me.

Can't draw hands gang

>>4085570
1. The right leg can't go out that far
2. Clean up the drawing. It's real hard to tell if a figure is out of perspective if they are just a stick figure. At least clean up the legs and feet to see if they are planted.
3. The figure isn't balanced. The feet are too far in front of the figure
4. The squatting position isnt' right. The legs should really be more compressed together if the figure is resting on their legs.
5. The fence is ruining the perspective. It's so weird to look at it straight on.
6. The horizon line is running through the middle of the figure, yet we can see the top of the rib cage. Weeird.

>>4085693
"can't" certainly isn't gonna make you any better. Fortunately for you you've got two live models attached to the ends of your arms, so reference should be a breeze.

>>4085494
Focus on form. Mannequinize the figure a lot. it's obvious that you don't have a good handle on form. You're also using anatomy and value to try to make your drawings look nicer and its showing.

>>4085684
You already have a cube, just use your monitor and elongate the flat side facing you to the correct proportion.

>>4085693
At least try. It'll only get easier.

>>4085252
Use a hard brush god damn it.

>>4085693
Then, you should study hands.

>>4085286
Dunno what's funny about a few people enjoying drawing and making progress about it.

>>4085589
Both, finished a 3 day game binging weekend

>>4085248
Very stylised so it's hard to tell. The people over at /alt/ might be able to give you better advice. If you do go over there though you should probably post a collection, maybe 3 or 4, of your characters just so they can get an idea of what you're wanting to achieve with your art.

Trying to render the tree "trunk" but I have no idea where to start

>>4085988
... i have no idea how to memorize all of muscle and figures in perspective now. So i will keep draw with references

>>4085988
those look nice but
>ref used

Is this good?

Just got done sketching out this scene. Something doesn't seem right about the left fist and ears and noses are weird but I think my heads and faces are coming together.

Second attempt after my attempt to follow a Bob Ross tutorial, this time copying a reference photo in Estonia - I need to spend more time on detail and get to grips with paint thickness to get this how I would like it, I think

I'm at a baby level so I decided to start drawing armatures so I can learn proportion. Anything before I continue?

>>4086408
evolve to basic shapes as soon as possible.

>>4086415
How soon? when I can get the lengths of the limbs correct without erasing my mistake 5 times or right now?

>>4086228
Not particularly. I can't visualize how a skull would work in the form you've drawn, especially the upper and lower jaw, you've not captured anything that indicates that structure. Your measurements are way off - the ear is not in that position on the head.
"Good attempt" is appropriate. Try again - pay more attention, measure, and LOOK.

>>4086427
The former. Getting the proportions down in your head is paramount, but stickmen help little in determining the depth and shape of your characters. Keep doing what you're doing for now, but don't let yourself get complacent. Once it gets easy is when it's time to move up.

So after struggling with anatomy/complex posing from imagination I've come to the conclusion that the only way to really draw figures accurately is to study the skeleton bit by bit until you can draw the important bones from most angles, then learn the muscles, then apply that knowledge to your figures. Problem with learning this is, there's not a lot of good references for bones at different angles/with full range of movement.

Anybody got some good skeleton poses/references?

>>4086437
Thanks! I think Im starting to enjoy drawing.

Tips on a more realistic hair and shadowing on arm?

Going on a downward spiral.

Doodled at work from imagination though had D.va with her Cruiser skin im mind

I had fun drawing this, gonna move onto shapes after a bit more.

>>4086508
You don't know how to improve, do you? You're stuck. Try something different.

>>4086563
Do keys to drawing.

>>4086565
Could you spoon feed me the pdf or a place where I can find one? Searching gives me nothing.

>>4086576
Check the artbook thread. It's in one of the mega links.

>>4086579
Thanks anon, your a real helpful guy.

I'm mainly concerned if there's anything wrong with the character on the left,particularly the anatomy and/or perspective

How did katsuya terada do this painting ?

>>4086586
Which tools did he use and what kinf of paint ?
I love his artstyle but I can't find his process online.

>>4086586
Without knowing anything about the artist, I'm gonna guess gouache.

How do you draw bloby monsters and eldrich horror stuff in general?

>>4086598
whadda heck they made a manga?

some blook from fun with a pencil

>>4086604
no its a fan made.
https://exhentai.org/g/634715/28c0518fa4/

>>4086586
I love her yellow eye

Took my time with two leg drawings from reference and then tried to redraw some standard views from memory.

>>4086770
good shit

aieee
B)

ran outta love for this

are the values i chose too close? im afraid the pic looks kinda shapeless + how do i do edges

>>4086980
>are the values i chose too close?
Yes.

>>4087022
thx, will choose better values next time

>>4087023
Sorry for the snarky "yes". You sound like a good dude. So I upped the contrast and changed the hue to something that doesn't hurt my eyes so much and, in my opinion, it got much better.

>>4087028
yeah i messed around in photoshop with it a bit and changing the contrast/exposure does make it look a lot better, no worries

>>4086235
Sorry anon, I'm honestly not trying to be an asshole, but nothing about this is coming together. You're flailing right now like a kid who watched an action movie and thinks they know karate all of a sudden.

Read the sticky and practice your fundamentals. Then learn how to draw figures and faces that at least come close to something real so that you can stylize them with the knowledge of proper form.

Not gonna lie, you've got a long road ahead of you. Don't get discouraged. You'll be fine. But you gotta learn.

>>4084750
>i wanna know if i'm going to correct way and not wasting time
You're never wasting time if you're learning and practicing. Keep going.

>>4086497
Stop spending one gorillon hours on a piece, it's been well over two weeks since I saw that pic
Try to figure how hair works by looking at a reference since you're working digitally.

First exercise on bodies built on circular and rounded forms from Preston Blaire's book on cartoon animation

>>4086508
Alright I've fucking had it. We tried MANY times to help, asked you MANY times to post a normal fucking real life study, and since it's been a little bit since you last posted I thought maybe you were finally reflecting on what's wrong with your approach but no, you're back again with the same fucking shit
This is artwork/critique, so if next time you post the SAME FUCKING THING AGAIN I will fucking redline, tear, objectively shit and spit on your next shitty anime pose n°1018 by you REALLY FUCKING HARD.
You know you're fucking bad, we ALL do. That's why we want you to go to the most basic shit of DRAWING FROM LIFE to not only fix your shitty lines, but also ehance your unserstanding of form, value and perspective. Think VERY HARD about the next picture you will be posting here.
No photo study, no autistic construction, just fucking draw from life.

>>4084293
Having finished Huston's head construction course and spent a few weeks drawing nothing but heads, I've finally mustered the courage to start his figure drawing course.

This is the first assignment and my first real attempt at drawing figures.

5 minutes each.

I know I'm at the very start and therefore everything I've done is shit. But if y'all could point out some things that I've done absolutely horribly then I can keep them in mind when I reach that segment of the course.

I am also aware that I'm horribly unsure of every line I put on the paper in this assignment. I'm pretty sure that'll pass though.

Thanks anons.

>>4086588
>>4086588
looks like gouache + mixed media

>>4087052
Not op

I wish someone would care about me this much irl

>>4087052
jesus..anon. are you okay?

I don't like drawing from life,should I just give up?

>>4087085
draw anime, it's like real life but simple

>>4087040
Ackhsually, I was working on another drawings. I went back to this one the last 2 days. But thanks for the tips anyways.

>>4087052
Jebus man, calm the fuck down.

>>4087085
I mean whatever stylization you'd want to pick up (aside from perhaps high abstraction) is going to be a spin on reality so if you wan't any real succes your kind stuck drawing from real life for a considerable period of time.
If your not willing to do that I would argue your time is better spend learning a different skill you're more passionate about.

>>4085684
Continuing with rotating this box cross thing

>>4087330

>spend 4-5 days learning a good amount and good progress
>relax and do other things during weekends
>forget everything during monday

i've spent 4 months on this, and I still have literally no fucking idea what i'm doing, what should i do?

>>4087394
When you start to feel tired, exhausted, sick of drawing. THAT is when you are just starting to improve. Grit your teeth and keep it going if you want to improve

>>4087394
>spend 4-5 days learning a good amount and good progress
so you never did

>>4087784
this has been a pretty big wakeup call for me

bleh

Think I'm getting better at measuring distances and stuff but my art still feels completely soulless. Maybe I should try making something original instead of using a famous character as reference next time.

>>4087795
you pen has pressure s.?

>>4087802
Yes, but people have told me to not use it until I get better at digital art. Maybe I should give it a try.

>>4087795
>>4087805
You don't need pressure sensitivity. Traditionally it looks like fine liners. But you do need to vary the lineweight. Just increase brush size. Look at lining work with markers and emulate the process.

>>4087052
Why don't you tear into my shit right away? Isn't that the point?
Why do people keep threatening critique instead of actually saying it?

Why do people act like everything I post on here is everything I ever draw when it's simply the least shit things I have? I'm not going to spam the board with shit people can't even begin to critique because they lack everything.

And what do you even mean when you keep saying that you've tried helping in the past? If you're anyone that said I should try something different as practice then I am already doing that.

I've already reflected on what I do multiple times and it's pretty apparent to me that I am not improving as much as I should be despite "trying something different", we don't need to make that obvious for a third time.

Bottom line, I draw and post what I like. And just for good measure I'll post another shitty waifu OC drawing next time before returning to real life studies.

>>4084922
lets see what kind of trouble he can get himself into

Making a dragon lady. I used a reference for the pose and size (not familiar with large bodies yet in a context that isn't comedic) but everything else is me so far. I'm not sure why but something seems slightly off that I believe a second pair of eyes may discern better.

Why does this look so dead and boring? How can I improve my shading with screen tones and lines?

A new nightshift collage - stuff I drew under the table at work... tried anatomy for sculptors this time.

I genuinely like it, especially how it describes the differences between male and female anatomy. The Orange dudes are from ref, rest is from imagination since I have really limited resources at work.

Sorry the files is so big... it's just 3,4kb - hope that's okay...

>>4087918
Now I do believe that your work is far from being perfect but you'll find nothing useful here. Not /beg/

>>4085352

hardest medium. but if you learn you'll be able to do oil/acrylic, pencil/charcoal.

you sploch the color down in one spot, let it set for a few seconds the spread it out in all direction to fill in the area evenly. you don't want to pull around a wet brush. leaves things uneven.

this vid explains it. put sub titles on
https://youtu.be/1gEiS1hdTrs

>>4088045
there's way too much going on in the design, keep your shapes either big, medium or small. also you don't have different line weights, and your drawing is completely flat. the face looks very unappealing and symbol drawn

>>4084553
Ok, and this helps the image how?

>>4086582
You should be more concerned with the one on the right. Neither of their feet make sense

>>4087905
post ref , the neck is too far to the right she doesnt have traps, the collarbone is wrong placed the left side is way to large,the boobs are too close in the middle of her chest, the torso is too short and is making the abs squished, hips are also bad unless is a skirt and she has a small skull

>>4085336
Finally

>>4087052
>You know you're fucking bad, we ALL do
You don't speak for everyone. Define "bad." I've seen worse. Your post is pretty fucking rude, to be honest.

>>4088451
Guy that made the latino kid joke here, i'm sorry, I remembered the drawings I made when I was younger. Still, you seem to practice a lot, and that sideview doesn't look bad for a novice, keep drawing

>>4088490
Ah,it's alright m8 DESU I found it funny a couple of minutes later and you did have a point I hadn't defines the fluff for her cheeks and the eyelids did look foreign and "crinkled" wrongly, gave me a chance to try out different eye types and settled on >>4088451
so in a way...thanks? :P

Thoughts? What do I need to improve on?

>>4088602
is this meant to be cartoonish? his forearms are hilarious and his lower legs are too short, the trees should have a more thick lineart as they get close and thinner from afar otherwise is hard to perceive the foreshortening/distance, and you drew the guy in a complete front view but the background is a view from above huh

>>4088618
Oh I see now. Thanks. I was using this body builder model with a couple tweaks, so I don't know if that's why it looks a bit weird. I was trying to go for something a bit cartoonish with semi-realistic proportions. I'm totally new at perspective and everything tho so thanks for pointing that out.

>>4088628
benis

I've never drawn before outside of extremely stylized shit and I wanted to start for a few years
I want to draw digital, any tips? I know it's a pretty vague question but I really don't know where to start from, read the sticky and all but I feel like I'm just retarded and have no ideas/notion of how light and perspective really work in terms of drawing anime shit or similar, later on

>>4088631
what's your goal, have you drawn traditionally before? whats your budget

>>4088630
You stop that staring and watch your mouth

>>4088633
Budget isn't a problem and my goal is to learn to draw well and be able to make my own pieces, colored and with a digital medium
Anatomically correct and attractive kind of "anime" style, I guess? The sort of pictures that go on boorus, but not with disgusting perspective and proportions. I want to draw my own characters and commissions for friends eventually. Never drew traditionally before

>>4088652
well you can get a wacom intuos pro and if you are going fir other brands the x-pen's pen seems to be as accurate as the wacom and the durability of the tablet too, i dont have one tho, you can always make a thread to ask for recommendations, but the most important thing is to have a pen that is as accurate/sensitive as possible.

as for drawing, getting good at those aspects isn't actually hard but requires a fucking lot of studying and practice and here's where 90% of beginners fail because they either half ass the studies or they dont do it at all , if you want to get good be ready for a grindfest of boxes/shapes/references for months and thats what kills the begs doing this shit kills the motivation ofmany begs

And if you decided to start, go first with drawabox,com this shit will help you to see everything in 3d rather than 2d that is main problem with beginners then you can go with anatomy for sculptors or Hampton figure drawing then you move to perspective shit from there is just polishing

>>4087333
keep it up brother

>>4087330
now do this

>>4085683
>>4085684
>>4087330
>>4087333
You can learn more by drawing through your boxes. It also makes it easier to spot mistakes. But good work :)

>>4088618
Better? Worse? Did I fix?

Values were really quite shit last time around so this is working to improve on that. It def helped make it look 3d and pop a bit more but maybe the dark to light is too extreme? I did the tonal bar exercise a lot on another page but it was still hard to control in actual practice. is there any other exercises to improve with my values?

>>4084917
look up a photo of someone squating, a slave squatter usually has their ass down near the ground. The gate is in the same perspective as the ground lines going right, so it should follow them, it's not receding in space correctly.
Changed the legs/feet on the left guy, just felt like the other one was awkward. Matched head perspectives, guy on the right was too high up. A lot of this perspective stuff might go over your head, I recommend spending a couple weeks reading some beginner perspective books, that should be all you need. Overall I like the scene setup, the silhouettes are cool and expressive.

Dumb question, is there a way I can draw people from life (and not photos) without having to ask people specifically to pose for me for a long time?

>>4084917
>>4088776
the gate should recede something closer to this, although this looks a little strange and I think that's because the gate pattern needs to be a lot smaller.

I have decided to get working on a "finished piece" to gauge where I am in general. The one on the left here is a pose/idea from my imagination. The right is me drawing over it and fixing some parts/changing it up a bit.

Sorry if this is asking for vague advice, but what do you guys think I should work on? How should I be placing the feet/knees for this one? I know that if a person raises their arm up, it causes their chest to move up as well, but I am unsure how to show that in this picture.

Any advice is helpful and I take it to heart.

>>4088471
That anon has been posting the same shit for months and put no effort whatsoever, literally never following any of the many advices me and other anons gave him. I genuinely wanted to help him improve but I guess he's got a tism of some sort.
>Your post is pretty fucking rude
Cry me a fucking river

>>4087895
Keep being stubborn about your shitty waifu poses and you'll never improve.

>>4088781
You don't, you develop the skill to remember and draw quickly enough/the most important stuff. Drawing animals is a good way to practice that skill as it's x5 harder
>Inb4 drawing a turtles hard
Motherfucker was pretty fast plus I had to crouch while being devoured by mosquitoes

>>4088850
Dude, I'm in tears at your post. That's so fucking awesome and hilarious. Everything about it is comedic.
>the filename
>decided to draw animals as a way to become better
>thought process, "Turtles are slow. I can probably draw one of them easy."
>actually get to drawing a turtle
>it's way faster than you fucking expected
>only made worse by the fact that it's a fucking turtle, so it's close to the ground making it really uncomfortable
>being constantly bit by mosquitoes.
>Just a comedy of errors
You're a legend. Thank you. I will take this advice to heart. In fact, in the future, I'll draw a visual representation of what you had to go through with a screencap of your post. I love it.

Need help with arms and real heads, I'm scared of drawing human faces. Need something to start with

>>4088855
Thanks fren, have one more
Also try to not do like me, I see the values in front of me yet my drawings still have a lot of white fucking ree

Old boi

How is ching chong man?

>>4088923
He has funky beard

>>4088972
I like his expression, you should further more on the drawing for a better Anon's review.

I'm going through Prokos figure drawing fundamentals, currently on the bean. I am almost done with a week's worth of studies of the bean, so I figured I would ask how I am doing with these studies, anything I should pay extra attention to or am I fucking it up somehow? I don't want to fill the thread with beans, so I made a Imgur gallery: http://imgur.com/a/tG7i8lH

>>4089031
wow, a real bean gallery ...

>>4089031
Looks like a bunch of cock n balls

Woah... Is this the power of gesture?

>>4089031
>doing proko

>>4089031
Pretty good. I'd say you've got the pinch and stretch forms down. I suggest do more twisting forms.

>>4089123
I'm always the first one to shit on Proko whenever brought up but this is fine, Proko just rips off other teacher's and this here he's just asking to do a standard form exercise. It's okay.

>>>/tg/68049907

Can I get some feedback on this please?

This is my first attempt at line work on a PC, hoping its looking alright to start colour.

Please ignore the shoulder piece.

>>4089177
Your proportions are alright, what you need to focus on now is form. Everything is very formless but there's no way you'll see that until you just practice more. Construct everything you draw out with geometric shapes.

It's alright to color btw, but don't focus on the short term. Short-term feedback for that immediate piece is almost never going to be that helpful. I'm just telling you what direction you should take your studies in.

>>4088895
Her right shoulder is missing

>>4089184
Thank-you.

>>4089013
YES SIR

How do y'all keep your cylinders in the middle of the minor axis?

feedback plz, thx

>>4089040
A real bean gallery of beans drawn from real human beans.
>>4089103
Nothing finer in the world than some fat cocks n balls
>>4089123
Come now anon, if I keep studying from master Prokopenko, some day I might be able to draw kangaroos from imagination!
>>4089136
Good idea, I did many standard pose beans, but not many where the body twist. I will bang out more pages, with a focus on twisting bodies. Thank you for helping out anon, much appreciated.

>>4089266
now put some limbs on them

>>4084293
Despite drawing everyday, 250 boxes, shadowing the line (the more I shadow before each line, the more shaky it ends, oddly), my lines still miss the point more than half of the time. This ruins drawings of non-organic perspective stuff like buildings etc.

What should I do to fix this?

is this good

>>4089298
back

i know i dont belong here. but tell me, hows the pose

>>4089294
Additionally, I need a pencil for dummies guide - how to hold it, how to draw properly with side etc. I've been drawing with liner pens and everything I do with a pencil looks bad and I can't fill areas properly nor shade.

Which one of these comes off the most on-model?
(Also are my fundamentals good here, aside from the dome and the "ear" on the side facing away from the viewer?)

>>4089313
I'm a horrible beg, but wouldn't the dome have to be square on the bottom if it's attached to a square block? Like, it looks weird because there's no indication of it being chamfered and transitioning into a ball but also no indication of it being an oval? I hope you get what I mean or maybe it's a non-issue. Also the angles are slightly dramatic in the bottom left.

>>4089322
Makes sense, I didn't really try with the dome-brain.
Are the angles at least good, if extreme?

>>4089328
I'm too beg to judge, only the bottom left one that looks really weird and stands out. not even the wire seems to be centered.

>>4089276
Will do anon

>>4088719
Looks terrifying but I'll give it a shot.

>>4088726
Video I followed had me drawing just the outline in black, but i guess I can draw the insides as well. Thanks!

>>4089298
>>4089301
Nice rendering, now do it a 100.times with 3/4 of it being real life

does anyone know how to make text bend like this?

>>4089422
microsoft word art

>>4088807
You want your the legs in a wider stance. With right leg going back more and left leg bending a little. So that the whole pose won't look so unbalanced.

Also your arms is completely screwed on the right. She is keeping the guy before her but foreshortening and overlap imply that her left arm goes almost straight left. And right shoulder is all kinds of fucked up - just get a ref and redo it from zero.

>>4084810
Slav squat yourself, the hips look nothing like that, the butt is close to the floor and the hips are facing upward. Once you start doing poses yourself you'll really get to see how they work

>>4089002
very nice

>>4089302
>i know i dont belong here. but tell me, hows the pose

Stop baiting - you're obvs here forever... the pose is weird and the proportions are all extremely off... what even is he doing. And why are his hand hooves?

Look at anatomy for sculports or Michael Hampton's design and Invention. Also draw more from reference /real life.

>>4089243
Are you really /beg/ my man?

>>4089486
oof

where should I look when making a mark? at the tip of the pencil or where the stroke is going?

>>4088746
turn your refs into grayscale beforehand so you can actually see how a finished value study should look

I've been getting friends to send me hands, and then I draw them, because my hands need to get better before I can simplify them with any level of honesty. Input? Critique?

anyone have any tips for gesture/figure drawing?
I feel like theres something essential im missing and everything looks fucked as a result. maybe that something essential is just time and I have to work at it more i dunno

>>4090940
I'd say in incorporate more contour lines to explain the volume and directions of your figures. How many figures have you drawn so far?

>>4090991
Ive done about 10 today (was drawing based off of a croquis ccafe video)

Thi she time I tried to make it look the they're actually Slav squatting and tried to give the girl in the foreground some muscles,though I think I fudged up the muscles and her elbow

I tried to lower one off the characters like anon said and slightly changed the silohette girl on the right's feet

I feel like there might be something off with the perspective and I can't tell what

This time I tried to make it look like they're actually Slav squatting*

I made some changes to the silhouette girl's feet*

>>4091547
How long have you been on this? It's time to let go and move on.

It's been about 17 days,since I either spent only a couple of minutes on it each day or not draw that day. I'll probably continue drawing it since I'm sorta having fun with it and I feel like it's about time I actually make something finished

>>4091555

It's been about 17 days,since I either spent only a couple of minutes on it each day or not draw that day. I'll probably continue drawing it since I'm sorta having fun with it and I feel like it's about time I actually make something finished

>>4091582
Just keep drawing you STUPID MUTT

>>4091555
I was initially wrong. I've spent about a week on this so far